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Hi there everyone,
I want to root my Desire HD, but I don't want to install any custom roms, radios, etc. I only want to root my HD so I can install apps that require root. I see no advantage in installing any custom ROMs, so I want to leave that alone.
What's the best way to go about this? I've found this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834427. Do I need to do anything else, except what is in this guide? I'm terrified of bricking my phone!
Could I brick my device if I made a mistake with the above guide, or S-OFF?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
Sorry for the question (no doubt it's been asked before), I've rooted my old HTC Hero before, found that easy, but this I'm confused!
Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.
nikmesh said:
Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.
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Thanks for that link! Looks a lot easier haha!
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1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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After I've ran that step - do I have permroot and I don't need to do anything else? I only want root, not custom ROM's.
I'm scared of doing the permroot, sounds like I'll break my phone if I even attempt it! Is there any way to ensure it will work?
Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P
nikmesh said:
Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P
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By "if you follow the steps" - do you mean I only have to follow step 1 for perm root? Or more than that?
Sorry for all the questions, I really do appreciate your help, thanks!
And also - if it fails, the stock WWE RUU can be flashed to restore the phone, can't it?
EDIT: Followed step one, restarted device and everything - perm root stays. Thanks for all your help mate!
Detailed description:
1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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Go all way through these steps from 1.1 to 1.6. Once you've done 1.6 your phone should be rooted. Just download the terminal emulator from the market and do that last thing that is mentioned to test the perma rooting. If that works then your good.
Oh just so you know the temp root option in Visionary is apparently completely safe and won't harm nothing because it makes no changes to the system partition.
Not sure about the WWE RUU. I'm not sure it will be compatible with your current ROM (Only thing I do know is that if it's older then your current it won't work). Don't know how to flash it either tbh, that's something I ain't found out yet =P
I have ROM manager premium, and I just downloaded CM7 through it, and was about to flash it, but remembered I dont have s=off.
Also, I cannot get past this screen no matter what. htt p://img145.imageshack.us/i/20110222142411.jpg/
Any help will be appreaciated I really want to be able to run CM7
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
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epsix said:
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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This Statement is correct.
jessek17 said:
Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
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for short terms "s" Means security protocol. If your S=ON that means the phone will do a search each time you boot the phone on to see if anything as been tampered with. and if it has it will revert back to a factory status. Just like you first bought the phone. Which includes rooting, recovery images, boot images, engineering screens. What ever you do to your phone that isn't factory will be undone.
It is impossible to do. Because you need to flash the ROM from the recovery image. And since one you boot your phone it will replace Clockwork ROM manager with the factory style recovery image, you cannot not even get to the place you need to flash it from.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
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Correct because you flashing the Clockwork Recovery image will not STICK unless you have s=off.
They system will replace the aftermarket image with the original EVERYTIME you turn off the phone.
That is the Stock Recovery. You need S-Off and ClockworkMod Recovery. And the right release of CWM Recovery, also. Use CWM Recovery 2.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.2 (Froyo) based ROMs, including stock, and CWM Recovery 3.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs, such as CM7.
There is a special version of CWM Recovery that can manage both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs: 3.0.0.6. Search for it in the Development subforum.
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
jessek17 said:
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
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Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
neidlinger said:
Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
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Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
jessek17 said:
Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
neidlinger said:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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That's kind of my point. People don't read.
If you take your time and read and do the entire process you won't have a problem. but you need to read all the way through something prior to jumping in the ring. There is a very strict set a rules that need to be followed.
So over the past few days I have been doing alot of research on rooting my phone. I have watched videos and read almost every thread concerning it. I understand the advantages and disadvantages of it. I have never done this before, but I am more than competent enough to follow the directions. I have taken it as far as using visionary and temp rooting my phone. I have a file manager downloaded, and a terminal emulator downloaded. If I go through with it I plan on following the directions in the thread using the gfree method. Ok, with that being said, my only real question is..if I follow the directions, obviously making sure my phone is charged as well, what are the chances of me bricking my phone? Is it incompetence that will create a brick? Or is it something that following the directions correctly will easily avoid?
just do it. -nike
follow directions and youll be fine. thats what i did
Yeah, it's pretty hard to brick your phone. One word of caution though: if you decide to flash the engineering bootloader, screwing up that command WILL brick your phone. Check it, re-check it, and do it over again just to be sure you've typed it properly.
Yea, not trying to get that in depth into it, just want to run some STABLE custom ROM's. I have spent the past 2 hours setting up adb and getting my phone to accept commands. Starting to get comfortable with that. I am really new to all of this, so I am trying to learn as much as I can before I jump into it.
UPDATE: Just need a couple more people to chime in on this. Like I said, I have ADB setup, my phone is accepting commands (rebooted over adb to test) I have visionary, I can temp root with no problem. I have read over the instructions, and understand them fully. I am not going to flash the engineering bootloader, just want to permroot to flash custom rom's and delete bloatware and such. So just doing permroot, is there a chance I can brick my phone?
as long flash a revovery image. And dont mess with the radio file you should be okay.
Cyanogen Powered; Android designed
Alright, thanks for the help, I am obviously a noob...Flashing the recovery is done right on the ROM Manager App right? And there is no way to accidentally mess with the radio?
lowandbehold said:
Alright, thanks for the help, I am obviously a noob...Flashing the recovery is done right on the ROM Manager App right? And there is no way to accidentally mess with the radio?
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yes it can be done with clockwork ROM manager.
And no the radio has to be done on purpose.
Cyanogen Powered; Android designed
Thanks for the help, It took me 2 days but I grew a pair and did it. Followed the directions on the guide and worked perfectly. Deleted Visionary, rebooted into hboot and have S off, went into my terminal emulator and still have superuser access. Thanks again!
lowandbehold said:
Thanks for the help, It took me 2 days but I grew a pair and did it. Followed the directions on the guide and worked perfectly. Deleted Visionary, rebooted into hboot and have S off, went into my terminal emulator and still have superuser access. Thanks again!
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You really should flash the Engineering bootloader. It makes it harder to brick your device in the future.
It took a bunch of reading, but I rooted my phone and my wife's phone using the gfree method, and installed the engineering bootloader.
Then, a month or so later, I upgraded to CM7. CM7, while still beta, is tons better than the stock firmware. I was going to do Ice Glacier, but developement stopped on it, and ultimately I wanted to be on CM anyway.
Better battery life, tons more features, no reason to complain.
Just do it. TMO should make CM stock on these phones.
I want to flash FROM STOCK tmo rom (2.2.1) to cm7 but im a little leary about bricking my phone because I cannot return it to tmo (I bought the phone and have the unlock code for it!) should it get bricked.
I want to use a different rom to get rid of all the TMO stuff that is on it and make it more smooth.
I have temp rooted and used visionary+ (r14) to temp root and am using anttek app manager to freeze many of the stock app,
but I want to be able to totally power down phone and leave the bloat OFF, which I cannot do now with temp root.
This phone is NAND locked and does NOT have a RUU image, so I will have to rely on clockwork mod backup...
I will be doing this this way youtube
Advice? Thanks in advance!
Also, what features, if ANY, will NOT WORK once I flash cm7 (latest stable build?)
Thanks and aloha!
If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to flash a new ROM. You'll have to be perm-rooted and have CWM recovery installed to do that. I see why you're concerned about bricking, but if you read and following the guides carefully, you'll be fine. Here are two: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
surfnhawaii808 said:
I want to flash FROM STOCK tmo rom (2.2.1) to cm7 but im a little leary about bricking my phone because I cannot return it to tmo (I bought the phone and have the unlock code for it!) should it get bricked.
I want to use a different rom to get rid of all the TMO stuff that is on it and make it more smooth.
I have temp rooted and used visionary+ (r14) to temp root and am using anttek app manager to freeze many of the stock app,
but I want to be able to totally power down phone and leave the bloat OFF, which I cannot do now with temp root.
This phone is NAND locked and does NOT have a RUU image, so I will have to rely on clockwork mod backup...
I will be doing this this way youtube
Advice? Thanks in advance!
Also, what features, if ANY, will NOT WORK once I flash cm7 (latest stable build?)
Thanks and aloha!
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If you perma root MAKE SURE TO FLASH THE ENGINEERING HBOOT(0.85.2007)
It will make your device less brickable
TrueBlue_Drew said:
If you perma root MAKE SURE TO FLASH THE ENGINEERING HBOOT(0.85.2007)
It will make your device less brickable
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This plus Juan.
/Update: Rooting went fine. Updated this thread - maybe it helps if somebody wants to root his/her 2.3.3 DZ and is being overwhelmed by guides etc.
Hi there!
I finally decided to root my Stock 2.3.3 Desire Z - I've read a lot, but I'm still confused when it comes to certain steps of rooting. I just wanted to get "green light" by someone who certainly has more experience in rooting etc.
First I read this ADB guide to get familiar with it. I certainly didn't understand everything about it, but the basic stuff should be clear.
Next step is downgrading my phone. I want to use this guide as mentioned in the HTC Vision wiki.
Which raises the first question: What's with that post, which Desire Z users should read. I don't really see the connection to the guide I want to use - it's stated that one should replace psneuter with fre3vo in step 4. But which step 4? Little confused.
So which step is different to execute for me?
No step is different, the guide is up to date and can be used with every device stated in its headline.
Next steps should be clear.
So after downgrading I planned on sticking with the Vision wiki - seems that every step is described clearly, even for an ADB dummy.
If everything went well, I planned to flash the Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 which requires a "full wipe".
So it's nonsense to save application settings via titanium backup in the first place, because I want to set Virous 2.0.0 as backup-rom anyway? Are there files I should backup - besides contact info etc.?
Application settings can be restored if you stick to the downgrade guide, only system settings/stuff should not be restored.
And am I missing anything important? Are there other (better) ways of rooting my device?
No
Tiny, rather unimportant last question - is there a way to save my savegames to just load them later if needed? Since the "full wipe" wipes everything (?), I don't see how I could save them.
See above.
Looking forward to be enlightened!
Greetings!
Kueber said:
Hi there!
I finally decided to root my Stock 2.3.3 Desire Z - I've read a lot, but I'm still confused when it comes to certain steps of rooting. I just wanted to get "green light" by someone who certainly has more experience in rooting etc.
First I read this ADB guide to get familiar with it. I certainly didn't understand everything about it, but the basic stuff should be clear.
Next step is downgrading my phone. I want to use this guide as mentioned in the HTC Vision wiki.
Which raises the first question: What's with that post, which Desire Z users should read. I don't really see the connection to the guide I wan't to use - it's stated that one should replace psneuter with fre3vo in step 4. But which step 4? Little confused.
So which step is different to execute for me?
Next steps should be clear.
So after downgrading I planned on sticking with the Vision wiki - seems that every step is described clearly, even for an ADB dummy.
If everything went well, I planned to flash the Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 which requires a "full wipe".
So it's nonsense to save application settings via titanium backup in the first place, because I want to set Virous 2.0.0 as backup-rom anyway? Are there files I should backup - besides contact info etc.?
And am I missing anything important? Are there other (better) ways of rooting my device?
Tiny, rather unimportant last question - is there a way to save my savegames to just load them later if needed? Since the "full wipe" wipes everything (?), I don't see how I could save them.
Looking forward to be enlightened!
Greetings!
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I followed the downgrading guide you linked to in order to downgrade from 2.3.3 and it worked perfectly for me (and many others, it seems). The guide uses fre3vo so I think you are safe to just follow the steps described in it.
I used SMS Backup & Restore and Angry Birds Backup free, both worked a treat. Other than that I restored everything from scratch.
It's probably a good idea to do a nandroid backup after rooting the stock froyo ROM but before flashing something else. Just in case.
Good luck
Yeah, and you probably should have posted this in Q&A
Eventually it would have been better, yup, but then I considered this thread more like a list of steps you want to go through to root your Desire Z 2.3.3 successfully - maybe it helps someone.
Anyway, thanks for your answer. I'll try that SMS Backup app.
Now I have to gather some informations about that "nandroid" backup - I've read it several times, but still I don't know what exactly it does / its benefits are.
If anyone would like to give a brief explanation, feel free!
Greetings
/edit: Well, a nandroid backup can be done with clockwork recovery, which installation is kinda part of the rooting process. There's one thing I don't understand yet - how to load that backup if it's needed?
Kueber said:
Now I have to gather some informations about that "nandroid" backup - I've read it several times, but still I don't know what exactly it does / its benefits are.
If anyone would like to give a brief explanation, feel free!
Greetings
/edit: Well, a nandroid backup can be done with clockwork recovery, which installation is kinda part of the rooting process. There's one thing I don't understand yet - how to load that backup if it's needed?
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Part of the rooting process gives you a better recovery partition that you can boot into, where you can flash roms, backup/restore ROMs and has some other tools,this is independent of the ROM you flash and is a safety net when messing with your phone.
bombadier said:
Part of the rooting process gives you a better recovery partition that you can boot into, where you can flash roms, backup/restore ROMs and has some other tools,this is independent of the ROM you flash and is a safety net when messing with your phone.
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So, essentially, as you already mentioned, that means I got safety tools that work independent. For example - if everything goes wrong and I have a copy of that nandroid backup somewhere, I could easily adb push that onto my sd card and flash it? Or has this backup to be on my sd card all the time, because in certain cases the sd-card is not mountable?
Just want to make sure that I understand what I'm doing..
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So, essentially, as you already mentioned, that means I got safety tools that work independent. For example - if everything goes wrong and I have a copy of that nandroid backup somewhere, I could easily adb push that onto my sd card and flash it? Or has this backup to be on my sd card all the time, because in certain cases the sd-card is not mountable?
Just want to make sure that I understand what I'm doing..
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You don't have to have the nandroid backup on your SD card at all times. You can do a backup, copy it to your computer and keep it there if you need the space on your SD card for daily use. There is also the possibility to keep multiple backups of different ROMs if you wish to change UI more often.
Whatever your needs, you should at least keep one backup from a stable setup. If anything goes wrong you can copy it back to your SD card (if it is not already there), boot into recovery (volume down + power) and choose backup/restore and restore your backup. Everything will be exactly as it was when backing up - very convenient
Everything went fine, updated thread - maybe it helps someone.
Thanks again!
Good to hear it went well
Got full root access and all the way to step 5 on the Wiki and go to verify that it worked and I get the...
secu_flag = 1
CID = T-MOB010
SIMLOCK = 01
Please disregard.
For my DZ:
secu_flag = 0
CID = 11111111
SIMLOCK = 00
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which method do i follow to just root my Desire z.
I dont want to update h-boot, or install clockwork recovery.
My device has S-off with stock htc sense rom...i just want root
sandipbarik said:
which method do i follow to just root my Desire z.
I dont want to update h-boot, or install clockwork recovery.
My device has S-off with stock htc sense rom...i just want root
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Just follow the xda Vision wiki.. read it attentively.
You'll see that you can just skip these steps.
Im using that method & rooted my DZ.
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look, I don't want to downgrade my system.
I want to root 2.3.3. is this possible ?
artur-x said:
look, I don't want to downgrade my system.
I want to root 2.3.3. is this possible ?
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You can't root 2.3.3 directly. In order to root you need to first downgrade to 2.2 and then root. Afterwards you can choose to install a rooted 2.3.3 stock ROM, a custom ROM with 2.3.5 or 2.3.7 depending on what you choose. Or you can try out one of the ICS alphas.
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I have factory 2.3.3 in my desire z , is it possible to root it (downgrade and change to something new ) and not to lose my data and installed applications?
Zocca: You have to downgrade, but the downgrade guide contains a section to get Titanium Backup running, so you can backup your apps and data.
-Nipqer