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[Q] Complete Android Noobie...

Hey Guys!
I just got my first android device (switched over from iPhone 3g) and I LOVE IT!
With that said, now to business! I read a lot about rooting the Evo, and other android devices, and I must say, I am quite lost in the lingo. I looked through a bunch of threads, and there are a bunch of tutorials about rooting the device in many different ways. And, after reading a lot of them, I found out about unrevoked, but I am not quite sure what it does. I gather it is a one step rooting program, but if that is the case, what is PC36IMG.zip needed for if unrevoked already roots the device in one click?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Arm0 said:
Hey Guys!
I just got my first android device (switched over from iPhone 3g) and I LOVE IT!
With that said, now to business! I read a lot about rooting the Evo, and other android devices, and I must say, I am quite lost in the lingo. I looked through a bunch of threads, and there are a bunch of tutorials about rooting the device in many different ways. And, after reading a lot of them, I found out about unrevoked, but I am not quite sure what it does. I gather it is a one step rooting program, but if that is the case, what is PC36IMG.zip needed for if unrevoked already roots the device in one click?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
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ok so rooting removes the protected recovery on the phone. a recovery lets you restore/factory reset and install updates manually. with the non protected recovery, you can make the phone think it is being manually updated, but really you are modifying it to your hearts content. read up on roms. i reccomend flashing the ava froyo v7. very good. have fun with your newly rooted device!!!! just tell me if you need more info.
btw, this should be in questions and answers

Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place, and thanks for the respond. Figured, can't go wrong with General!
So, if i just root it without running a custom recovery, can I still run tethering apps and the screen shot app?

Basically the root gets you access deeper in the phones files than you previously had. You also gain a new set of permissions (superuser permissions) with the process so that your phone allows you to do more, similar to the iphone jailbreak.
You will need a custom recovery. The updates that sprint/htc usually send out over the air (OTA) can't be used anymore because you will lose your root, so you have to apply them manually through recovery instead. This is just one reason, but the custom recovery is a necessity. It can look complicated, especially the way it reads on the forums, but it is very simple once you have it in your hands.
After rereading your post, you may be referring to a custom rom, not recovery. You do not have to use a custom rom, you can just use stock with root access and superuser permissions and be good to go for wifi tether & screen shots

So, from what I gather, we use unrevoked to unlock the phone and get more privileges, and the custom recovery is used to not lose root privileges after Sprint or HTC puts out new updates to the devices?

essentially, you got it. The recovery is used for lots of different things, like adding themes, changing kernels, custom roms, backups, ect.
There are also methods besides unrevoked to gain root. It all depends on the type of person you are, if you want root and don't want to think about it, use one of the one click methods. If you want to learn a little check out regaw_leinad's root thread and the videos that are in the OP and you will get root and you will know how it happened when your done.
My recommendation is to choose your method of root and do it and stick with the stock rooted rom for a bit. Read the forums, mostly the OPs on the different custom roms and the kernel threads and you will start to get an idea of what you want from your rooted phone. After a week or two of hanging out on the forums, you will know what you want and you will have enough grasp to go for it. Read OPs thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will not have any problems.

Root help, i'm confused!

Hi there everyone,
I want to root my Desire HD, but I don't want to install any custom roms, radios, etc. I only want to root my HD so I can install apps that require root. I see no advantage in installing any custom ROMs, so I want to leave that alone.
What's the best way to go about this? I've found this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834427. Do I need to do anything else, except what is in this guide? I'm terrified of bricking my phone!
Could I brick my device if I made a mistake with the above guide, or S-OFF?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
Sorry for the question (no doubt it's been asked before), I've rooted my old HTC Hero before, found that easy, but this I'm confused!

Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.

nikmesh said:
Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.
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Thanks for that link! Looks a lot easier haha!
Detailed description:
1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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After I've ran that step - do I have permroot and I don't need to do anything else? I only want root, not custom ROM's.
I'm scared of doing the permroot, sounds like I'll break my phone if I even attempt it! Is there any way to ensure it will work?

Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P

nikmesh said:
Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P
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By "if you follow the steps" - do you mean I only have to follow step 1 for perm root? Or more than that?
Sorry for all the questions, I really do appreciate your help, thanks!
And also - if it fails, the stock WWE RUU can be flashed to restore the phone, can't it?
EDIT: Followed step one, restarted device and everything - perm root stays. Thanks for all your help mate!

Detailed description:
1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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Go all way through these steps from 1.1 to 1.6. Once you've done 1.6 your phone should be rooted. Just download the terminal emulator from the market and do that last thing that is mentioned to test the perma rooting. If that works then your good.
Oh just so you know the temp root option in Visionary is apparently completely safe and won't harm nothing because it makes no changes to the system partition.
Not sure about the WWE RUU. I'm not sure it will be compatible with your current ROM (Only thing I do know is that if it's older then your current it won't work). Don't know how to flash it either tbh, that's something I ain't found out yet =P

[Q] MyTouch 4G: HTC Glacier - Perm root/with recovery?

I am new to the rooting scene and I am very eager to root my HTC Glacier|MyTouch 4G.
I am however hesitant because I cannot risk bricking my phone.
Advice on how to recover from brick and an easy to follow guide to perm-root.
Thanks

geronimo711 said:
I am new to the rooting scene and I am very eager to root my HTC Glacier|MyTouch 4G.
I am however hesitant because I cannot risk bricking my phone.
Advice on how to recover from brick and an easy to follow guide to perm-root.
Thanks
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What is the end result you are trying to get to?
If you are wanting S=off so you can flash custom ROMs.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/; do that and it will lead you to perma root the easy way.
if you are wanting s=off so you can have complete control over your phone, which will enable the possibility of a brick. including SuperCID, ./gfree and some other goodies...... But this will give you the option to severally screw up your phone including up to a 500.00 paper weight.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
If you haven't screwed up the HBoot and the bootloader you can use this to get back to a factory spec.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899&highlight=level
But if this is your first android, and your first time rooting i would HIGHLY suggest doing alot of reading before you jump in head first. There are alot of people who have tried to do and get stuck. This phone is confusing once rooted with 2.2 ROMs and 2.3 ROMs and different recovery images you need to read and make sure you understand everything before jumping in feet first.

Temp root with visionary is the easiest and safest way, but gfree is pretty simple as well. The hardest bit is getting the drivers and ADB to work, and thats not overly difficult. (remember to use the command "ADB devices" to know if the drives are working) It just matters what you plan on doing, stock root or custom ROM.
There is really only two points that risk a hard brick, flashing the radio or hboot.
The gfree method does not require either, but you can flash the engineering hboot as optional.
The biggest thing with recoveries and ROMs is know that gingerbread based ROMs (like CM7) use ext4 file system and froyo ROMs use ext3. So it is important to use the right version of Clockwork recovery. Use v2.5.1.2 for froyo ROMs and v3.0 for gingerbread ROMs. Soon clockwork mod will support both on the same version.
Just read the instructions well and have all files downloaded and ready to go.
If you want to use gfree and a custom ROM, there is no need to get perm root on the stock ROM first. After the steps that get s=off, just run visionary as temp root with system r/w access and install ROM manager from the market, then use ROM manager to flash a new recovery. Reboot into recovery backup your stock ROM then flash a new ROM.
If you never touch the hboot or radio firmware, then at worse you can bootloop or soft brick the device. That can be fixed with varying amounts of work, depending on the exact issue.
Read and learn how the different parts work, learn how to use ADB and you will be better prepared.

newbie here
This is my first post. I would really appreciate anybody helping me out here. I can't seem to get any straight answers, or answers I can understand, anyway, so here goes.
I have an HTC Mytouch 4g. I did a temporary root (using the method at theunlockr.com) and uninstalled the monopoly app. I was going to uninstall a bunch of other stuff but I got nervous and did a factory data reset (in the SD & phone storage area). All of my marketplace apps reinstalled, which I thought wasn't supposed to happen, but anyway.... I did the volume down/power on and see now that my phone is GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON. So my question is how to interpret the state that my phone is now in. Is it factory? Is it rooted? Will the T-Mobile OTA updates work? Why is the monopoly app still gone? Is my warranty voided?

ibnird said:
This is my first post. I would really appreciate anybody helping me out here. I can't seem to get any straight answers, or answers I can understand, anyway, so here goes.
I have an HTC Mytouch 4g. I did a temporary root (using the method at theunlockr.com) and uninstalled the monopoly app. I was going to uninstall a bunch of other stuff but I got nervous and did a factory data reset (in the SD & phone storage area). All of my marketplace apps reinstalled, which I thought wasn't supposed to happen, but anyway.... I did the volume down/power on and see now that my phone is GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON. So my question is how to interpret the state that my phone is now in. Is it factory? Is it rooted? Will the T-Mobile OTA updates work? Why is the monopoly app still gone? Is my warranty voided?
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Temp root is just that, temporary. It creates a copy of the essential files in the system partition that it runs from rather than the actual system partition. If you allow it r/w access, (an option you can choose when using visionary) it can uninstall apps that normally can not be. (and more, but causing big changes would require more work on your part)
Because it is temporary, there is no need to get nervous. Unless you are doing some major changes, ones that need a root explorer app or terminal emulator, then you can't really hurt the phone. Download terminal emulator from market and run it, then type in the super user command "su" (no quotes) then hit enter, if the cursor changes to a # symbol then you have root. (you may get a popup asking for root permission, choose to allow) If it works after a fresh reboot, you either ran perm root in visionary, or you have the option checked to temp root every reboot.
S-ON means that the bootloader security is still in place. You need it off to install custom software. While you can root the stock software with S-ON you can not install any software that has potential to brick your phone, so no need to worry at all. If you are really that worried, keep a copy of the stock software on your SD card. Make sure it is named PD15IMG and at any time you get nervous, you can boot into hboot (the bootloader) and it will run automatically. It will wipe your phone and return it to complete stock. The irony is, that flashing this stock image file does things that can brick a phone if it goes wrong. It flashes more than just the OS, it also flashes hboot and recovery as well, and if the process is messed up in anyway like loosing power at the wrong time, it can brick the phone.
Really as long as you make sure you have the phone charged and you follow instructions you should be fine. The only times you can brick a phone to the point it can not be brought back is when flashing hboot and the radio firmware. Both of which you would rarely flash. Hboot only needs flashed to the engineering version once (OEM testing/DEV version) and only if you choose to, as it is not required. The radio will only need flashed if an update for it comes out, and that isn't often, and it is rarely mandatory.
The chance of truly bricking your phone is not very high, unless you just can't follow the directions. Now you can put it into a bootloop or soft brick it. (bootup stuck on mytouch screen) But if you can boot the phone into hboot (vol down + power on) then you can fix it. Even if you can not boot into recovery (an option in the hboot menu) you can even fix that with a good hboot.

theres a video on youtube by mackster its awesome and it gives you all the links very easy to use.
it wont let me post the link but just search root mytouch 4g on youtube and it should be the first or second one.

Thanks Marine and Tommy.
So with temporary root, as soon as I turned off and then back on the phone, it was back to its unrooted, original state, minus the T-Mobile application? Will I now get T-Mobile's Over the Air (OTA, right?) updates and not have a problem if I need warranty work?

ibnird said:
Thanks Marine and Tommy.
So with temporary root, as soon as I turned off and then back on the phone, it was back to its unrooted, original state, minus the T-Mobile application? Will I now get T-Mobile's Over the Air (OTA, right?) updates and not have a problem if I need warranty work?
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Uninstalling an app will not hurt anything. OTA updates will still work fine. You can temp root and then perm root the stock ROM and revert easily. Heck, even perm rooting stock doesn't break OTA I believe.
Voiding the warranty is one of those grey areas. As long as you can revert to stock, then they will never know. Temp root does not void warranty at all, because you do not alter the system files. (unless you want to, and enable the ability to read/write system) Just uninstall terminal emulator and super user apps and there is no evidence.
The only time you might get caught, is if say the screen stops working, and you can not see to revert back. Though even then, just putting the stock OTA image on the sd card then booting up the phone in hboot will restore without needing to actually see anything. It does ask for confirmation to restore, just wait several minutes then hit the power button and it would do it on its own.
The set of circumstances needed to prevent you from restoring to stock, are rare. Basically a borked hboot or radio firmware, and you never need to touch those to get full root and custom ROMs. If you never touch them, the chance of issue is almost zero.

I just got my mt4g and I am looking to root my phone for the following reasons:
apps2sd
remove bloatware (I want the app to be disabled and I don't want the icon in my app drawer)
use adfree
I don't want any custom roms and I'd like to keep sense ui.
Can anyone tell me if this is at all possible? I've read around and I know it's possible but I don't know about rom flashing and I'm confused as to whether or not I need to flash a custom rom? What's the point of a custom rom anyways?

goldfish524 said:
I just got my mt4g and I am looking to root my phone for the following reasons:
apps2sd
remove bloatware (I want the app to be disabled and I don't want the icon in my app drawer)
use adfree
I don't want any custom roms and I'd like to keep sense ui.
Can anyone tell me if this is at all possible? I've read around and I know it's possible but I don't know about rom flashing and I'm confused as to whether or not I need to flash a custom rom? What's the point of a custom rom anyways?
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You dont need apps2sd, as the mytouch 4g has Froyo installed, and you can move some apps to the SD card. Just go into settings-Applications-chose the applicaiton you want on your SD card, and look for "move to SD". If it's grayed out, then you cant move it.
Also download appfreezer from the market, and just "freeze" the bloatware. That's what I do, and it gets rid of those annoying looking apps they installed.

Question about clockworkmod
OK i just rooted my phone, flashed the rom, and installed all the goods... it works perfectly and looks great.
Ty for all the guides/ instructions.
My only question is about the clockworkmod. When I turn off my phone and plug it in to charge the recovery screen always appears when off and connected. Is this suppose to happen? Or is there a solution to this?
If there is a solution can some one post a link or provide instructions so it doesn't constantly boot to clockworkmod recovery.
Thanks.

do I need s=off for cyanogenmod 7?

I have ROM manager premium, and I just downloaded CM7 through it, and was about to flash it, but remembered I dont have s=off.
Also, I cannot get past this screen no matter what. htt p://img145.imageshack.us/i/20110222142411.jpg/
Any help will be appreaciated I really want to be able to run CM7

You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

epsix said:
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.

Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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This Statement is correct.
jessek17 said:
Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
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for short terms "s" Means security protocol. If your S=ON that means the phone will do a search each time you boot the phone on to see if anything as been tampered with. and if it has it will revert back to a factory status. Just like you first bought the phone. Which includes rooting, recovery images, boot images, engineering screens. What ever you do to your phone that isn't factory will be undone.
It is impossible to do. Because you need to flash the ROM from the recovery image. And since one you boot your phone it will replace Clockwork ROM manager with the factory style recovery image, you cannot not even get to the place you need to flash it from.

jessek17 said:
Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
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Correct because you flashing the Clockwork Recovery image will not STICK unless you have s=off.
They system will replace the aftermarket image with the original EVERYTIME you turn off the phone.

That is the Stock Recovery. You need S-Off and ClockworkMod Recovery. And the right release of CWM Recovery, also. Use CWM Recovery 2.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.2 (Froyo) based ROMs, including stock, and CWM Recovery 3.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs, such as CM7.
There is a special version of CWM Recovery that can manage both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs: 3.0.0.6. Search for it in the Development subforum.

Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?

jessek17 said:
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
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Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.

neidlinger said:
Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
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Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.

jessek17 said:
Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.

neidlinger said:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.

jessek17 said:
Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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That's kind of my point. People don't read.
If you take your time and read and do the entire process you won't have a problem. but you need to read all the way through something prior to jumping in the ring. There is a very strict set a rules that need to be followed.

WARNING - Do not use Visionary to permanent root your G2/DZ - high brick risk!

Hi !
I would like to warn everybody that the use of the permanent root option of visionary can lead to an unrecoverable brick!
Lately we are facing an increasing number of bricked phones that have been created by an attempt to permanent root the G2 (or Desire Z) using visionary.
While there is still cure for Desire Z phones (even if it is a complicated procedure) there are certain conditions for the G2 where nothing can be done to rescue the phone.
These are the conditions:
- the phone is S-ON and not SuperCID
- the hboot and the recovery are still stock
- the main software version is 1.22
When visionary corrupts the system partition (which it does some times) the phone can not boot anymore. And as there is no original stock rom (PC10IMG.zip) for the G2 that has software version 1.22 or higher the stock rom can not be installed from hboot.
And with the stock recovery there is also no chance to cure the system partition or change the main version in the misc partition.
But even if the brick can be cured for other phones (Desire Z, Desire HD) this is totally unnecessary because the phones can be rooted and freed by methods that do not have any risk at all (even if you do some steps wrong).
The method that I highly recommend to use is the one described on the XDA-wiki at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD.
This method is constantly maintained and is the most up to date method.
If you really are not able or willing to use adb I would recommend the method described by ianmcquinn in the thread "[GUIDE] Permanent Root with Visionary/gfree (No ADB Required)" at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
It is less up to date but it uses visionary only to gain temporary root and it uses scripts for the necessary commands so that the risk of bricking the phone by typos in important commands is minimized.
Scotty2 and I (and a lot of other people) tried our best to make the rooting process as easy and risk less as possible and therefore it is very frustrating to see people who bricked their phones by using an unnecessary, outdated and risky method.
Thanks and have fun - Guhl
Update 05/15/2011:
Since football dropped the new gingerbread T-Mobile ROM (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074391) a G2 bricked by visionary can be cured. (which is a complicated procedure of course)

I think this is/should already stickied however no one seems to read stickies... Thanks for posting the warning again though.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

On my first G2 I used the visionary method and it messed up after about 2 weeks.
It wouldn't connect to the wireless network.
On my second G2 I used the gfree/rage method and, it has worked just fine.
I'm sure with all the visionary problems people are having, it probably had something to do with mine going bad.

I am waiting on an insurance replacement G2, glad I found this. I rooted mine the very first method that was posted. So does Visionary have a checkbox in the app or something to permanent root? I was using the first release of it.
:edit Just got my G2 from UPS at 1:20, and now at 1:50 I am already flashing CM7 Visionary is great, glad I saw not to do Perm Root attempt though haha

dumb? question
i rooted my g2 a few weeks back, installed the cyanogenmod 7(which seems solid btw) & honestly dont remember the method i used (it took multiple tries over multiple posts/guides/websites) but i recall visionary was involved at some point.
anyhow should i be worried about this thing becoming useless? should i be reinstalling/uninstalling something? are there any precautions i should be taking? is there a way to tell what method i used?
sorry if im cluttering this thread up, i really try not to post if possible(searching usually answers my dumb questions) THANKS! tho

If you're already rooted you should be good. The method that uses VISIONary/Gfree was posted in January, the latest thing that said it could cause any problems was an update on December 23rd, and from what I understand is that you'd have to downgrade a Desire Z... Didn't say anything about a G2. I'm sitting here waiting for UPS then I'll be doing this.

hmm ok, thanks, ill continue to slowly set it up for use than & keep an eye out for additional posts/info on the subject. i sure would hate to doorstop the thing before even using it.
thanks again for the reply

The only issue I've encountered with the way I did was that it says phone number unknown. Quick xda search found you go into Call settings, additional settings, and you can set the phone number in there

Well, I used the Visionary + gfree way to permanent root today, and it went smoothly, on the 1st try, no problems, as of yet. I ran root check and noticed that busybox isn't installed. Is it supposed to be? It was when I was using temp root. Is it ok, to install busybox from the app from the Market?

I got busy box through titanium backup "problems" button

Hi Guhl, I decided to be safe and follow your more highly recommended method to rooting my tmobile g2. This is my first time rooting a phone, the problem is I have a mac... I'm not sure it will work the same way since I don't have a pc... Do you know someway around this? Or some other way I can root my phone on my mac...
Thank you!

one2345shutup said:
Hi Guhl, I decided to be safe and follow your more highly recommended method to rooting my tmobile g2. This is my first time rooting a phone, the problem is I have a mac... I'm not sure it will work the same way since I don't have a pc... Do you know someway around this? Or some other way I can root my phone on my mac...
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It should be no problem to root your phone on a Mac. The guide to setting up adb in my signature has a section on how to do so on a Mac.

I perm rooted with visionary method the day it came out (I think this was November or October?). Was on cm 6 and now been on cm 7 for a while. No issues at all. Guess I was lucky or people are doing it without being careful.

My friend's G2 seems to be bricked under these conditions. Failed Visionary root. He's counting on me to fix it.
The recovery is stock and it has S-ON. How can I check the version?

Electrodeath0 said:
How can I check the version?
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You can't.
Just try to install the 1.19 PC10IMG.zip using hboot and you will see. If it installs you'r good if it tells you that you version is to high you are 1.22
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Whats up everyone?
OK real quick because this has had a little more insight to my situation than what i have been able to find. a guy called me up yesterday and wanted to know if i could root his g2. well apparently.... he attempted to do this on his own and used visionary and messed up his phone. bootscreen heaven. stuck on htc.
Hboot. 0.82.0
radio 26.03.02.26
SHIP S- ON
I have no control over adb.... says device is offline but at least recognized. and shows devid. is this phone a lost cause or can someone toss me a bone without telling me to read this and go here or there?
i have been searching since 5pm yesterday and it is now 1030am.
I have been able to load an update through the stock recovery and it shows that it went well. when it reboots to the screen with the grean circle arrows over the phone, it doesnt seem to take enought time to be loading image or other software. and when its done and reboots, its still stuck on htc screen.
any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry if i cluttered up this thread.
RELEVANCE::::: Visionary
SErooted,
Xperia X10
2.2 Xperia BLISS
2gig data2sd
998mhz
sysctl
2780 Quad

Wish i would have read this 3 hours ago.Tried to perm-root with vision bout 4 months ago and didnt brick, But 3 hours ago tried it again and i semi bricked/bricked it?
This blows i already miss my android .This is definitley a FML post
FMLLLLL!
well new g2x or just a New G2 here i come

I agree with this thread but back then there was only one root tool for the HTC Desire Z or G2 persay. If there is another tool I am unwilling to unroot and reroot again if possible. But I agree that Visionary++ increases the chances of a bricked phone with a percent of about 55%

Rooting a new G2
wrong post, mods please delete

I AM VS4 said:
I agree with this thread but back then there was only one root tool for the HTC Desire Z or G2 persay. If there is another tool I am unwilling to unroot and reroot again if possible. But I agree that Visionary++ increases the chances of a bricked phone with a percent of about 55%
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If you used Visionary, and it worked, then you don't need to worry about unrooting and rooting again. If there were going to be any problems, it would have happened as you were rooting. If you didn't run gfree, and are not Super-CID, S-Off, then you might want to do that (you still can). But otherwise, you are good to go.