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My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.
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My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.
T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.
Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.
NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.
I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.
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I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.
Has anyone been able to get MMS working on the T-Mobile HD2 using AT&T's network?
I downloaded and installed the network wizard cab from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=250891&d=1259353814
Still cannot get MMS to work. I also made sure the proxy was enabled. All settings appear to be correct, is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?
so your tmoUS HD2 is unlocked?
Yes, it works...
I have a T9193 operating on ATT in the US. MMS works great (you can send photos, videos and others) without a hitch.
All I did was install a ROM from the many ones available here (I'm no expert; I used one of Artemis' ROMs). Works great.
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is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?
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I and many other AT&T users have been using this phone since its European release and have had MMS working without a hitch. For $10 a month data plan and edge speeds ~500 +, I don't really see AT&T making a fuss whether it has this phone or not.
Yeah, I got mine unlocked over the weekend at htc-unlocker.org... 30 bucks but it was worth it....
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my MMS working... Text is working, Data is working, but no MMS.... Any ideas??
hey guys i figured out how to get mms on tmous hd2.
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88058&d=1211735066 install this first
2.the install http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=269964&d=1263970936 then your mms will me enabled
Yes!
I had previously set up my Edge network and it took me awhile to find the MMS settings.
From the Home page go to...
Messages/All Messages/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server/New
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: 66.209.11.32 (This is wireless.cingular.com)
Port number: 80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: MEdia Net
Sending size limitation: 300k
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
Then use menu and set it as default.
Go get your messages!!!
Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.
Thank god I found this, hopefully
Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*
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Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.
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I really have not noticed much of a difference.
But there is this....
AT&T users: +500kbps on EDGE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318&highlight=edge+speed
I will be testing it today.
Paradigm_Shift
Any response to my first post?
Thanks if you do.
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Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*
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Wow, really glad to have helped.
Here is what I used...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362586
The path there is lightly different.
Home Page/Settings/Wireless Controls/Data connection/Advanced/Select Networks
And I only used the MEdia Net settings.
He also has an additional connection "AT&T ISP:"
which is used for tethering. (I currently do not know if we are going to need this b/c of the possible wifi router ability).
I found this additional support information from AT&T. It gives you a solid foundation.
MEdia Net: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84444
MMS: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=62373
Plot Thickens
Thanks a lot for the response Paradigm. Honestly, this post started with "Looks like the search continues." But no less than 10 seconds ago, i got the HTC jingle that my message had downloaded!!!!! Oh my god! Honestly, the only thing i noticed that I changed were PORT numbers for proxy. Just because I know how stressful this was for me, I am going to post pictures of each page of the MediaNet setup when I get off work to hopefully help someone else.
Again, thanks Paradigm a thousand times. Its funny because I do remember getting that site from google earlier in the night, but I was so sure the medianet settings were already set correctly from a cab file i downloaded. So happy to see I now get my MMS
Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
But again, Paradigm, thanks for atleast getting me to receive MMS. I now understand why XDA rules. If anyone has any advice/tips/etc on my now current dilemma, go ahead and post it and Ill give it a shot.
Look to seeing those pics posted sometime after i get off work around 5ish (arizona/west coast time).
Happy I decided to join the community.
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Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
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Hmm, I wonder if AT&T and T-Mobile are sharing IMEI numbers for certain devices.
Exactly
Ya, thats the only thing I can think of. I know I messed with alot of internet settings in order to get MediaNet working but at worst I would think AT&T would think "Hey he's just accidentally hitting browse or something"
I just dont see how its possible. Im trying to log in online to see if my phone shows up as a smartphone or still my ancient SE W510i.
hey i posted it on post 6
Current Phone
So I just checked online and it says my current phone is:
RIM
7290
but still shows a picture of my W510i.
So obviously the HD2 wouldnt be in their system and this is possibly their default unit when it doesnt recognize/have the phone in their system
eastside770
IN response to: eastside770 hey i posted it on post 6
I downloaded both of the files and installed them in that order. Then I couldnt find anything to do with them on my phone? I went to file explorer and all i can click on is a voicemail icon and an MMS icon that does nothing. Does this require a ROM mod or anything? I apologize if its obvious. Like i said, this is my first smartphone But ya, I installed both of them on my storage card, good to go. Soft reset. Nothing new though: Where am I supposed to see these apps at or see the results/edit them?
Thanks,
Ryan
Also, is this in response to getting MediaNet set up or so AT&T doesnt know Im on a another phone (I dont know, maybe this messaging client hides stuff from AT&T somehow )
They sent you a lovely text about implementing a data plan on your phone because you're using MMS! MMS requires network data (not your wifi) so when someone sends you an MMS or you send them an MMS, it goes through the MMS proxy server that you set up...and VOILA...AT&T knows that you're transmitting data when you don't have a data plan.
So to recap in case you're still wondering why you're getting slap with a data plan:
SMS - no data plan required
MMS - data plan required
If you can't live with MMS, call them up and said it was a mistake and that now you're using an old phone (that's not a smartphone) and just ask them to put you on the regular medianet ($15) plan rather than the PDA/Smartphone ($30) plan that they're putting you on. You save $15 a month and get text as much MMS your heart desire.
I Understand
lude219 -
I understand that. Dont worry Ive asked this before. MMS is included with Unlimited SMS for my plan on AT&T, as is IM as long as it is one of the programs pre-installed on the phone, so it doesnt require a data plan. I have triple checked this. Trust me, ive been going on MMS with no charges on my W510i for the last 3 years, and just recently called about 2 weeks ago to confirm MMS doesnt charge in preparation for the move to HD2. Im going to call and ask. But thanks for the MediaNet tip, kind of like the Tzones hidden plan with Tmobile. Ill give it my best.
Thanks for trying tho lude219! All help is appreciated
So a couple of weeks ago I bought a new HTC desire outright on Telus. I got it unlocked to use with my rogers prepaid sim card. So far so good.
But when popped it in, set up the apn and tested out the internet, I got a message saying: "Before using the mobile internet, you must have a valid mobile internet option. To continue, select from the following:" and it went on to list the data day and week passes for smartphones.
But, i DO have data. I have the socialite 20 prepaid data plan which includes
unlimited internet. Before the desire, I was using the plan with my blackberry bold just fine. Anyone have any ideas as to why my generic data plan worked on my bb but not my htc?
Any help is much appreciated, thanks.
Maybe cause your on a blackberry specific plan ?
im not really sure never had this problem
then again i never used an unlock phone on rogers just got a phone with a 3 year contract :\
That's what i thought at first. but I'm just on a regular data plan.
something similar happened like that and I called rogers who assured me out was a glitch in their system. just needs a data reset.
Earbuddy said:
something similar happened like that and I called riggers who assured me out was a glitch in their system. just needs a data reset.
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so all i have to do is ask rogers to reset my data?
I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
5. Includes unlimited on-device mobile browsing, excluding tethering (use of device as wireless modem) on select Rogers certified devices (excludes smartphones). Usage subject to Rogers Terms of services and Acceptable usage policy; rogers.com/terms. Data transmission charges of 5¢/page viewed when roaming in the US and 25¢/page viewed when roaming internationally apply. Visit Rogers.com/mobileinternet for details.
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However, if it turns out to work for you then I might get that plan too
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I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
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sorry, but what exactly do you mean by wpa network?
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Technodude88 said:
DangerPanda said:
I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
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sorry, but what exactly do you mean by wpa network?
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i think he meant "wap"
also, I'm not sure if you've called rogers yet but i know that plans are dependent on phones anymore - for example you can use your blackberry on an iphone data plan and vice versa - when I HUPed to the iphone 4 i was on a regular data on one line and a blackberry on another - i thought I would have to switch both lines to iphone plans but they said that it's been set so that I can switch "data" between both phones so no plan change was necessary.
I think you should just call Rogers and see what they say, likely what will happen is they will "reset" your data and you'll remove the battery and the sim for 10 seconds then put everything back and it should work fine.
I don't think pay as you go is any different but I'm speaking from contract experience
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Earbuddy said:
Technodude88 said:
i think he meant "wap"
also, I'm not sure if you've called rogers yet but i know that plans are dependent on phones anymore - for example you can use your blackberry on an iphone data plan and vice versa - when I HUPed to the iphone 4 i was on a regular data on one line and a blackberry on another - i thought I would have to switch both lines to iphone plans but they said that it's been set so that I can switch "data" between both phones so no plan change was necessary.
I think you should just call Rogers and see what they say, likely what will happen is they will "reset" your data and you'll remove the battery and the sim for 10 seconds then put everything back and it should work fine.
I don't think pay as you go is any different but I'm speaking from contract experience
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Oh, ok. Thanks for your help! I'll give them a call tomorrow and see how everything goes.
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Well, I gave that a try, but no dice. , when i turned on my phone after they reset my data, i still got the same message, any ideas? The person i was talking to said that it would only work with feature phones and not smartphones. But obviously not as i could use my blackberry...
Any help, ideas, or opinions, ate greatly appreciated.
And I could just get an android data plan but I can't afford paying around 60 bucks per month for the amount of data I use, around 3 gigs.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Naive question : have you tried to put your SIM (the present one you have in your Desire) in your old Blackberry ?
If it's not working either then definitely a problem with your carrier (probably misconfiged your plan when you changed your phone). Just call'em again and again...Sorry no more ideas then...
If it's working in your BB and not your HTC then probably a conf problem on the phone itself OR (like said earlier) your data plan (not the fees you pay or the customer contract but I mean the real configuration of your profile in the network) that is not the same for a BB and a regular smartphone.
That's nearly always the case, BB using different data services that other constructor....If that's the case then......calling carrier support again and again and again to make them correct that...
As for the network conf of the HTC itself, I guess you have verified everything, especially the APN part ?
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Naive question : have you tried to put your SIM (the present one you have in your Desire) in your old Blackberry ?
If it's not working either then definitely a problem with your carrier (probably misconfiged your plan when you changed your phone). Just call'em again and again...Sorry no more ideas then...
If it's working in your BB and not your HTC then probably a conf problem on the phone itself OR (like said earlier) your data plan (not the fees you pay or the customer contract but I mean the real configuration of your profile in the network) that is not the same for a BB and a regular smartphone.
That's nearly always the case, BB using different data services that other constructor....If that's the case then......calling carrier support again and again and again to make them correct that...
As for the network conf of the HTC itself, I guess you have verified everything, especially the APN part ?
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so i gave that a shot and it works fine in the bb, and yea i double checked my apn settings, guess im just going to have to bug rogers untill they point me in the right direction
I think your problem is that you are not using a valid smartphone data plan, the unlimited internet option is only available to Roger's dumbphones/bb. If everyone were able to get unlimited internet on their smart phones with $10 a month, there wouldn't be a need for a data plan right?
so i found something interesting today,
if i toggle the data on and immediatly load a page, news feed, video, whatever, i can get maybe 3-5 seconds of working data, which is progress
its as though it starts and then identifies the phone i have, and sees that its a smartphone, so it shuts it off... or is this a phone problem?
also, if it is and i.d. thing, is there any way to make your phone appear as though its a dumbphone? sort of like changing the user agent or something?
thanks in advance
i hope you've had your data plan restored, but in case you haven't, i asked Rogers for a "special reset".
i rooted and flashed cyanogenmod 6.1
my data was working
then when in windsor, it lost my Rogers (Canada) data network but logged on to an American AT&T data network
Even when Rogers was available again, and AT&T was not, it just never came back.
the technician told me it might have stuck to the AT&T network and a data reset would fix it.
it did!
Hey there,
I just got my nexus s a couple days ago and right away I noticed that when I switch from wifi to Tmobile data (3G) it takes about 5 mins or so for 3G to actually connect and allow me to surf or use any data connection at all. By the way, it still takes the same amount of time(~5 mins or so) to connect even if I check 'use only 2g networks'. Then in the past 2-3 days everything seemed to work fine (mainly cause I haven't been switching between 3g/wifi but today I found a notification on my phone that a system update is available so I went ahead and installed it. That was 2 hrs ago and ever since then I cant connect to either 3g or edge. For a moment I thought that there might be some issues with the network itself so I slipped the sim card into my old Nokia phone and I immediately got the edge connection (my nokia doesnt support tmobile 3g). I see the 3G icon, ocasionally I see the arrows getting highlighted as well but they never turn green. I restarted the phone several times and it still doesn't connect. Anyone else expereinced this?
Thanks,
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Hey there,
I just got my nexus s a couple days ago and right away I noticed that when I switch from wifi to Tmobile data (3G) it takes about 5 mins or so for 3G to actually connect and allow me to surf or use any data connection at all. By the way, it still takes the same amount of time(~5 mins or so) to connect even if I check 'use only 2g networks'. Then in the past 2-3 days everything seemed to work fine (mainly cause I haven't been switching between 3g/wifi but today I found a notification on my phone that a system update is available so I went ahead and installed it. That was 2 hrs ago and ever since then I cant connect to either 3g or edge. For a moment I thought that there might be some issues with the network itself so I slipped the sim card into my old Nokia phone and I immediately got the edge connection (my nokia doesnt support tmobile 3g). I see the 3G icon, ocasionally I see the arrows getting highlighted as well but they never turn green. I restarted the phone several times and it still doesn't connect. Anyone else expereinced this?
Thanks,
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not sure if i understand 100% what your saying, but how fast your device acquires 3G depends on how strong of a presence there is of 3G
Right, but once it acquires the connection it stays strong and I never lose it. Besides that, even if 3g is weak shouldn't edge connect? I know for a fact that edge is available and strong since I never had problems acquiring it with my old signal and even now when I use my old phone it takes not more than 5 sec to connect to edge. Anyway, like I said I found that little weird but not a big deal as I haven't had any problems in last 2-3 days. However, ever since I installed that update I don't get any data conection (3g or edge) no matter what I do.
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Right, but once it acquires the connection it stays strong and I never lose it. Besides that, even if 3g is weak shouldn't edge connect? I know for a fact that edge is available and strong since I never had problems acquiring it with my old signal and even now when I use my old phone it takes not more than 5 sec to connect to edge. Anyway, like I said I found that little weird but not a big deal as I haven't had any problems in last 2-3 days. However, ever since I installed that update I don't get any data conection (3g or edge) no matter what I do.
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TpaFL, I am having the exact same issue as you, but I confirm that the Gingerbread update has nothing to do with it. When I got my phone last week I also noticed that the transition from wifi to 3G took a long time, and in some cases I ended up needing to reboot the phone. However, beginning yesterday morning, before the update was sent OTA, I could not use 3G/Edge at all and it's been that way ever since. One thing I've noticed is that when you trying browsing to a webpage that you will get redirected to a "m.web2go.com" page that says "service unavailable". To me this means that I still have 3G connectivity, but somehow T-Mobile is blocking my access to the target site for whatever reason.
When I called T-Mobile and explained the situation they told me a couple of things: 1) there was a network outage in my area that could be causing the problem; and 2) that I might be having a problem due to the fact that I am still on an old Blackberry plan. Neither of these make sense to me because if I plug my SIM into my old phone (Nexus One) everything works perfectly fine. I'm also hesitant to move to one of their current internet plans because my Blackberry plan is so attractively priced.
I just PM'd you regarding this in the hopes that maybe we can talk live and trade notes on how to get this problem solved.
Bob
betabob26 said:
TpaFL, I am having the exact same issue as you, but I confirm that the Gingerbread update has nothing to do with it. When I got my phone last week I also noticed that the transition from wifi to 3G took a long time, and in some cases I ended up needing to reboot the phone. However, beginning yesterday morning, before the update was sent OTA, I could not use 3G/Edge at all and it's been that way ever since. One thing I've noticed is that when you trying browsing to a webpage that you will get redirected to a "m.web2go.com" page that says "service unavailable". To me this means that I still have 3G connectivity, but somehow T-Mobile is blocking my access to the target site for whatever reason.
When I called T-Mobile and explained the situation they told me a couple of things: 1) there was a network outage in my area that could be causing the problem; and 2) that I might be having a problem due to the fact that I am still on an old Blackberry plan. Neither of these make sense to me because if I plug my SIM into my old phone (Nexus One) everything works perfectly fine. I'm also hesitant to move to one of their current internet plans because my Blackberry plan is so attractively priced.
I just PM'd you regarding this in the hopes that maybe we can talk live and trade notes on how to get this problem solved.
Bob
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I had the same problem, I still had a BB data plan. Seems TMO has the IMEI's of the Nexus S ( the phone tech asked me how I liked my S without me telling her what I had... ), but not the Nexus One. My N1 worked just fine with the BB plan. Switched the 2 lines I have data on to the 4G Unlimited (Their name for non-BB data) and all is well.
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I had the same problem, I still had a BB data plan. Seems TMO has the IMEI's of the Nexus S ( the phone tech asked me how I liked my S without me telling her what I had... ), but not the Nexus One. My N1 worked just fine with the BB plan. Switched the 2 lines I have data on to the 4G Unlimited (Their name for non-BB data) and all is well.
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Hmm...I think T-Mobile knew I had N1 because the rep I spoke to mentioned that she saw that I switched to the N1 back in January.
Do you really need to be on a 4G plan since the Nexus S only supports 3G? And do you know if you're still able to use the Nexus S for tethering without having to pay for T-Mobile's tethering service?
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Hmm...I think T-Mobile knew I had N1 because the rep I spoke to mentioned that she saw that I switched to the N1 back in January.
Do you really need to be on a 4G plan since the Nexus S only supports 3G? And do you know if you're still able to use the Nexus S for tethering without having to pay for T-Mobile's tethering service?
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you do not need to pay for Tmobile tethering.
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you do not need to pay for Tmobile tethering.
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Okay, thanks. Did you get any sort of explanation from T-Mobile as to why they allowed N1 users to access 3G using a BB plan but not the Nexus S? Seems to me that data is data, regardless of the actual device you're using.
Like other posters said, these Nexus S phones have unique IMEI numbers that T-Mobile can recognize and apply data settings on. I have/had a grandfathered Smartphone Unlimited (24.99) data plan on my line for about 3 years now. It worked flawlessly with my Touch Pro 2, Nexus One and Dell Venue Pro.
I noticed with the Nexus S, after I disconnected from wifi and went back to 3G, I would get the time out errors and "upgrade your plan" page in the browser. A reboot would fix it but that was annoying. I called TMO customer support, spoke with a supervisor who changed my grandfathered Smartphone Unlimited (24.99) to the grandfathered Android Unlimited Plan (also 24.99). All that changed was the name, but I never saw that "upgrade" message again. I tried my SIM in my Nexus One and Venue Pro after the change and now all my devices can use 3G data with no issues.
lethalp1mp, I hope your new data plan does not cost you more money because I know for a fact your previous plans can be changed to work at the same previous price.
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Okay, thanks. Did you get any sort of explanation from T-Mobile as to why they allowed N1 users to access 3G using a BB plan but not the Nexus S? Seems to me that data is data, regardless of the actual device you're using.
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Data is data, the reason they charge more for a smartphone plan is because smart phone users are likely to use much more data.
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Hmm...I think T-Mobile knew I had N1 because the rep I spoke to mentioned that she saw that I switched to the N1 back in January.
Do you really need to be on a 4G plan since the Nexus S only supports 3G? And do you know if you're still able to use the Nexus S for tethering without having to pay for T-Mobile's tethering service?
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It's just what they call their non-Blackberry data plans now from what I can see. You will need to add messaging if you do switch, as the BB plans included messaging, or at least mine did.
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lethalp1mp, I hope your new data plan does not cost you more money because I know for a fact your previous plans can be changed to work at the same previous price.
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For me, it came out to be less than what I was paying before.
Well, I just called TMO and spoke to a rep that claimed the reason why I wasn't getting data access was due to my IMEI not being recorded in their system. She took down the IMEI number from my Nexus S and entered it into their "system", and told me it takes up to two hours to register. I played along, but I rather doubt this is going to fix my problem. I'm sure I'll end up having to switch out of my BB plan.
Hi all,
I just bought a used LG Quantum from ebay. I would greatly appreciate all of your input to help me verify that this phone is working properly. I am upgrading from a Touch Pro 2, wm 6.5.
1. I don't see a water indicator sticker. Is there a blue sticker in the battery compartment to indicate water? I see a small hole that is white filled on the top left region, opposite the sim. Is this it?
2. How can I verify if the ROM is stock? Is there anyway for me to check to see if the previous owner has replaced the ROM or has done anything to the phone that might prevent the Mango update? Mango update is REALLY important, I have been holding off upgrading until Mango comes out.
3. I have been using the Touch Pro 2 without a data plan. I don't have a contract and don't want to enter a contract. All my datat usage is wifi, and it has served me well. I have wifi at the office, and wifi at home, therefore no need for a 3g data. In WM 6.5, I can turn off the 3g data modem. Can I do the same with this LG? I also have AT&T block data on their side, but I don't want any "accidental" data charges. I would feel much better if I can turn 3g off on my end.
4. How do I do a factory wipe? This might be necessary if the previous owner have not done so. It is currently charging so I haven't got the chance to mess with it. Its very hard waiting....
I might have more question as I go along. Thanks in advanced for everyone's help. I really love Windows Mobile and have been using Windows Mobile phone before the iPhone ever came out. I got my wife an Android phone, and I'm very disappointed with Android. I can't believe companies putting out Android phones that are not usable out of the box. You have dig for apps and install additional apps in order to make the phone acceptable for use. Anyway...thanks again everyone.
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Well, I found the factory reset in the Setting menu, and have done it. I noticed that after resetting the phone, I went through the setup, and saw that in the setup process there was a check box for data option. I unchecked the box so that the phone would not use data. Does anyone know if that would stop any 3g data access?
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It looks like no one wants to share their experiences, so I'll just go on with this monologue and post things as I find them.
I found the 3g data switch in the setting menu. So it looks like you can turn off 3g data and just use wifi.
Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.
Kev. said:
Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.
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That's a really good price, did you have to sign a contract for it? I have been buying my phone on ebay to avoid contracts.
Kev. said:
Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.
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I've just connected my phone to the zune software for update to Mango, but it says the phone is up to date: 7.0 (7390).
I got impatient so I did the disconnect from the internet trick. Was a breeze and worked right away and I've had no problems with it.
Can someone verify for me if this is stock rom:
OS Version: 7.0.7390.0
Firmware Revision Number: 1.1.3.11
Hardware Revision Number: 1.1.0.0
Radio Software Version: 1.1.3.11
Radio Hardware version: 0.3.5.0
Bootloader Verson: 1.5.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.30.2.0
I want to know if the NODO version is official or the beta.
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ok guys, the windows phone gods have looked down and seen how I'm searching and poking around trying to verify my phone OS so that I can update to Mango; and they are smiling on me. Out of the blue today, the zune software said I have an update! Woohoo! Mango is coming, its been updating for 30 minutes now.
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Now running Mango and loving it!
Does anyone know where the water indicator sticker is located on this phone?
Great to hear... I'm still waiting on mine. Trying to be patient.
You were right, the water indicator is the little hole that should be white when dry, and turns pink after getting wet. There's another, larger, square indicator on one end of the battery.
Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.
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You were right, the water indicator is the little hole that should be white when dry, and turns pink after getting wet. There's another, larger, square indicator on one end of the battery.
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Thank you for confriming that, now I can leave a positive feedback for the seller.
moonlite said:
Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.
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hahaha...Good to have you chime in. I'm liking WP more an more each day. AT&T recognized this phone and automatically listed it on my online account. I love thr fact that I can turn off data, in the Settings, Cellular page. I use wifi instead.
At first I was afraid that wifi would drain my battery fast, so I manually turn it off and on. But I have been reading and found that WP will turn of wifi when the screen is off, isn't that great? Now I just leave wifi on, and whenever I turn my phone on, it automatically have a data connection.
I don't use text either. Why pay AT&T $20 a month for this funtion!
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your receipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text.
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hahaha...Good to have you chime in. I'm liking WP more an more each day. AT&T recognized this phone and automatically listed it on my online account. I love thr fact that I can turn off data, in the Settings, Cellular page. I use wifi instead.
At first I was afraid that wifi would drain my battery fast, so I manually turn it off and on. But I have been reading and found that WP will turn of wifi when the screen is off, isn't that great? Now I just leave wifi on, and whenever I turn my phone on, it automatically have a data connection.
I don't use text either. Why pay AT&T $20 a month for this funtion!
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your receipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text.
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lol...after describing in details how I can get free texting, I just discovered AT&T Go Phone (pre-paid plan) that has unlimited talk & text for just $50/month. This is a great plan for those of you in the US who have AT&T and no longer under a contract. I used to be on the $40/month plan that only gives me 450 minutes/month. Now I have switched over to their Go Phone prepaid plan that is $50/month ($55.01 with tax) and get unlimited Talk & Text! Data is also available but for additional fee.
moonlite said:
Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.
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I have a Tilt still and am curious to see what you think! I've been contemplating upgrading either to an LG Fathom, LG eXpo, or maybe a Quantum. However, the Samsung Captivate Glide was just announced, so maybe that's what I'll try... I wonder if it is worth getting a one or two year old brand new phone, when my then new Tilt has worked for over 3.5 years.
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lol...after describing in details how I can get free texting, I just discovered AT&T Go Phone (pre-paid plan) that has unlimited talk & text for just $50/month. This is a great plan for those of you in the US who have AT&T and no longer under a contract. I used to be on the $40/month plan that only gives me 450 minutes/month. Now I have switched over to their Go Phone prepaid plan that is $50/month ($55.01 with tax) and get unlimited Talk & Text! Data is also available but for additional fee.
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That is interesting. I have been out of my contract for some time. I am grandfathered with the $30/month unlimited data, and another $5/month for 200 texts. If I didn't travel so much, I think your option would really work. Once I change my plan though, there is no going back...
daveb673 said:
I have a Tilt still and am curious to see what you think! I've been contemplating upgrading either to an LG Fathom, LG eXpo, or maybe a Quantum. However, the Samsung Captivate Glide was just announced, so maybe that's what I'll try... I wonder if it is worth getting a one or two year old brand new phone, when my then new Tilt has worked for over 3.5 years.
That is interesting. I have been out of my contract for some time. I am grandfathered with the $30/month unlimited data, and another $5/month for 200 texts. If I didn't travel so much, I think your option would really work. Once I change my plan though, there is no going back...
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The quantum is a 1st Gen phone. If you are able, I think you should get a 2nd Gen phone instead.
So I'm probably buying one of these on ebay (I cant write on touchscreens so im in need of a smartphone android or WP with QWERTY on it).
Some questions:
-Whats the newest version of windows phone right now?
-Can LG Quantum be updated to that version?
-How's the battery on this model? Can I get 2 days with moderate use?
-Is anyone trying to make a graphic EQ to WP7? I think the lack of this basic multimedia feature is just ridiculous.
Thanks and sorry to make so much questions
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So I'm probably buying one of these on ebay (I cant write on touchscreens so im in need of a smartphone android or WP with QWERTY on it).
Some questions:
-Whats the newest version of windows phone right now?
-Can LG Quantum be updated to that version?
-How's the battery on this model? Can I get 2 days with moderate use?
-Is anyone trying to make a graphic EQ to WP7? I think the lack of this basic multimedia feature is just ridiculous.
Thanks and sorry to make so much questions
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WP7 newest version is Mango, and this LG Quantum can be updated to Mango. I'm running Mango right now.
The battery life is good, you can easy get 2 days moderate use.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by graphic EQ?