Which is the best 16Gb SD card for HD2 with WP7 (no freezes, no reboots)? And which card installed in HD7? Thanks!
simploid said:
Which is the best 16Gb SD card for HD2 with WP7 (no freezes, no reboots)? And which card installed in HD7? Thanks!
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You may get varying answers with that question but I was using the Sandisk Class 2 16gb card that came with my TMOUS HD2
I ordered a class 2 San disk off Amazon.co.uk for 15.99 I ended up with a class 4 one off them and it works great but I also heard its pritty much a lucky dip with sd cards for wp7.
no way of knowing what cards will work unless you try it, that is the only answer im afraid, class 2 and 4 seem to have a higher chance of working but your just as likely to have a sandisk working as you are having a supermarket own brand
course the flip side is you may get a class 6 or even a 10 working fine too...
its luck, good luck!
Just thought id add my 2 pence, I started with an 8gb class 4 card (brandless) and decided I wanted more memory so I bought a San disk mobile ultra 16gb class 4 from eBay. I was happy with my 8gb cards performance until I replaced it, the speed increase was massive so I would recommend the mobile ultra by San disk my self I picked mine up for £15 with free delivery
-josh- said:
Just thought id add my 2 pence, I started with an 8gb class 4 card (brandless) and decided I wanted more memory so I bought a San disk mobile ultra 16gb class 4 from eBay. I was happy with my 8gb cards performance until I replaced it, the speed increase was massive so I would recommend the mobile ultra by San disk my self I picked mine up for £15 with free delivery
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a working OS has absolutely no lag, it smooth and very slick, there is a slight touch screen bug that may mean you need to swipe a couple of times but actual OS transitions are incredible, so if you dont have the experience i have mentioned then its likely your card isnt 100% compatible.
I use the stock sandisk 16gb, class 2 sd card that came with my phone. Runs smooth as butter!
tay200k said:
I ordered a class 2 San disk off Amazon.co.uk for 15.99 I ended up with a class 4 one off them and it works great but I also heard its pritty much a lucky dip with sd cards for wp7.
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I bought this too, works like a charm
my sd is 16Gb class 6 perfect work in wp7
Any sandisk should work, i have not yet read any posts mentioning problems with running wp7 on hd2 with a sandisk card.
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dazza9075 said:
a working OS has absolutely no lag, it smooth and very slick, there is a slight touch screen bug that may mean you need to swipe a couple of times but actual OS transitions are incredible, so if you dont have the experience i have mentioned then its likely your card isnt 100% compatible.
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The os was slick and smooth on my unbranded card, the speed difference i noticed was when it came to installing apps. I would estimate it takes a quarter of the time to install an app than it did before. Also there was an increase in speed in running some apps for example fruit ninja used to be slow in parts and now runs alot better
se1988 said:
Any sandisk should work, i have not yet read any posts mentioning problems with running wp7 on hd2 with a sandisk card.
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It's looks like I'm the first one who can't running wp7 on hd2 with san disk 8G C4 sd card
bloceanc said:
It's looks like I'm the first one who can't running wp7 on hd2 with san disk 8G C4 sd card
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Did you buy the card from retail shop, or ebay?
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oh for god sake, here we go again,
ITS LUCK!! there is no relation to any SD card working on the HD2 for WP7 other than class 2 or 4 seem to have a high chance of success, thats not to say class 6 and 10 wont work, just less likely
Sandisk have cards that work and others that dont, they are not above this problem, two identical cards may not work the same, because the manufacturing process isnt always the same.
in short, ITS LUCK!!
lol
Unless they start advertising it as a WP7 compatible card, which i doubt will happen as devices that run WP7 must have the SD card in or use additional NAND memory, given that mainstream joe public isnt likely to break down their £400 phone to add some memory i doubt very much that SD card manufactures will release a branded product to the highstreet specifically designed for the WP7 devices that can ripped apart to allow an upgrade to the internal SD card.
the very best you can do is find out the batch number of some of the SD cards in the HD7 and attempt to find a high street version sporting teh same number, good luck with that.
My hd2 wp7 doesn't read my 16 gb sandisk class 2 at all. How do I get it to work?
I first used a Kingston 16gb class 6 but had constant freezes, laggy os and constant reboots. Than I used the SanDisk 16gb class 2 and the phone runs just as smooth as my brothers hd7. But I do get occasional reboots still...
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A-data microSD 16Gb class 6 work on my HD2 with Wp7 2 month without problems
i have Sandisk 16GB class 2
I have an SanDisk 16gb Class 4 and after First Boot nothing happens.
Without SD Card wp7 Starts und run perfectly...
Today I changed my 16GB SD card from a no-name class "I don´t know" to a 16GB class 10 SD card. The Phone ist now much more faster than before, it is nearly as fast as my HTC Mozart.
When you have probs with the SD card, it was a very good hint to format it with the digicam.
Greetz, Olli2.
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I am currently suffering from Sleep of Death issues on all Android versions for the HD2, which makes it pretty useless for daily use. I am using the Standard Class 2 16GB card which came with my Telstra NextG HD2, I've tried all the ROM/Radio combination's I could be bothered with, 2.12 radio seems the best and I'm on the EnergyRom Cookie from 29th Sep currently, however I have tried other minimal ones and still SoD's.
As far as I can tell from threads around here it seems to be my microsdhc card that is the problem, now I want to upgrade to a 32GB card, and I was wondering if it was worthwhile getting a Class 6, or is a Class 4 going to cover all the bases?
I would like to know some specific brands and models of microsdhc cards that people use without getting SoD's so then I can go shopping I am hopeful someone is running it on a 32GB card somewhere out there, but I would settle for 16gb cards that happily run Android on the HD2. Thanks
What kernel are you using? I went from michyprima r11 to r1 in bangsters build and my sod's have completely disappeared.
I am using a sandisk 4gb microsdhc as well.
what class is the card though, class 4?
No SOD/No Music Skips/Etc...
8GB Kingston Class 4 (2 of those )
8GB Transcend Class 4
16GB Sandisk Class 2
PS : My allocation unit size is always 64k
hmmm my 16GB card that came with my unit from Telstra is a Sandisk Class 2... and running that with 64k allocation still gives me SoD's....
hmm
davidcampbell said:
hmmm my 16GB card that came with my unit from Telstra is a Sandisk Class 2... and running that with 64k allocation still gives me SoD's....
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Im using bangsters 1.4 build with chuckydroid for wm and radio 2.14 with a 16 gb class 2 sd card with 32k block size (as bangsters says is very important)
with this setup I get no sod's at all. it works flawless. I get sometime a delay when it wakes up from sleep but i press and run my finger on the black scree and it wakes up everytime. never have sod.
try my setup because the way it works for me is very stable. just as stable as my Nexus One. really
and if you try bangsters build just go trhu hes check list before you install
We mostly use transcend 8gb class 6 cards and they are fine.
Team branded class 6 cards are awful.
I usually use 64K cluster size.
Don't get 32gb card. You won't be able to boot android. You'll be wasting your money.
mattfmartin said:
Don't get 32gb card. You won't be able to boot android. You'll be wasting your money.
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Oh wow! Thanks for the save
Do you know the reason why, or is there a thread on it? I tried searching but too many results to peel through
I know ANDROID had issues with formatting 32GB cards in the past... is it a problem like that with android in general or just the booting from a 32GB sd card?
mattfmartin said:
Don't get 32gb card. You won't be able to boot android. You'll be wasting your money.
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Thanks for the heads up on the android boot issue with 32GB Micro SD cards, mattfmartin. D'oh... I was just about to pick one up, but will hold off for now. Thanks again!
As far as 16GB cards go, I've had good luck for the last few weeks with a SanDisk Class 2 model and HyperDroid v1.5. Moreover, for some reason, the SanDisk has outperformed a 16GB Toshiba Class 4 model in overall speed and stability. Go figure...
Best to all,
R
*Currently running and very impressed with Miri & DINIK's solid v19 ROM, HyperDroid v1.5, and Radio_leo_2.14.50.14 on a TMOUSA HD2.
I have a class6 16GB Lexar card, with it I'm not having any issues with SoD or anything like that. But compared to my stock class 2 card, I haven't noticed any improvements in Android battery life or constant hang ups. Documents and podcasts load faster for sure though.
mattfmartin said:
Don't get 32gb card. You won't be able to boot android. You'll be wasting your money.
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The above statement about running Android from a 32GB Mirco SDHC card is incorrect, at least in my case. That said, I've been booting and running HyperDroid v1.5 by pongster for a few days now with a 32GB SanDisk Class 2 card. The only negative effect noticed so far; is that it takes Android twice as long to boot from the 32GB card verses my old SanDisk 16GB Class 2 card. Once booted, performance appears to be the same. If it helps anyone, I used Panasonic SDformatter v2.9 (3.0), set to it's default 32kb cluster size, to format the 32GB card.
Best to all,
R
davidcampbell said:
I am currently suffering from Sleep of Death issues on all Android versions for the HD2, which makes it pretty useless for daily use. I am using the Standard Class 2 16GB card which came with my Telstra NextG HD2, I've tried all the ROM/Radio combination's I could be bothered with, 2.12 radio seems the best and I'm on the EnergyRom Cookie from 29th Sep currently, however I have tried other minimal ones and still SoD's.
As far as I can tell from threads around here it seems to be my microsdhc card that is the problem, now I want to upgrade to a 32GB card, and I was wondering if it was worthwhile getting a Class 6, or is a Class 4 going to cover all the bases?
I would like to know some specific brands and models of microsdhc cards that people use without getting SoD's so then I can go shopping I am hopeful someone is running it on a 32GB card somewhere out there, but I would settle for 16gb cards that happily run Android on the HD2. Thanks
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STOP USING the RED end call button to wake the phone!!
hey,
im about to buy a new micro sd and I dunno which
I thought of getting transcend 8gb class 6 but now I think that it'll be better to get a 16gb card.
Which 16gb micro sd card do you recommend?
I am currently using a 16GB SanDisk Class 4
I am quite convinced that different BLOCK SIZES matter for performance
Anyone has tried different block sizes and testified performacne/
Hey,
I'm going to buy a microSD card Sandisk 16GB 4th class
Are there any problems with the operation of the NAND android who need ext2/3/4 partition on SD card?
Generally, this is a good choice?
Regards Pablo.
PS. Sorry for the language.
Hi there,
i want to make some Thread about the SD Cards for the use of Windows Phone 7 and want to collect information. I Think many people who want to use WP7 on HD2 have to buy a new one, even my 16 GB SanDisk Class 6 is not compatible.
I found this on web:
Hi, actually the Samsung Focus has a 16GB internal memory and expandable up to 32GB. So you can insert a 32GB micro SD card on this device. However there are certain limitations when it comes to the micro SD card. Compatible micro SD cards will be branded as “Windows Phone 7 Compatible” on the packaging. Approved cards can be obtained from the manufacturer or carrier. (The SanDisk 8GB class 2 micro SD card has been certified.) Many commercially available retail micro SD cards are not approved for use in Windows Phone 7. Use of unapproved cards may cause performance degradation or device instability, including unexpected reset and loss of user data.
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source 1
source 2
So first SD Card witch is compatible is the SanDisk 8GB class 2 micro SD card
- SanDisk microSDHC_8GB
SDSDQY-8192-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_16GB
SDSDQY-016G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_32GB
SDSDQ-032G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_4GB
SDSDQ-004G-A11M
-SanDisk microSD_2 GB
SDSDQ-002G-A11M
edit: ah sry i think wrong section
i use a 32gb SDHC sandisk (don't know the class but i think this is the regular one...)
For WP7 i use the 2GB SanDisc that was sold with the phone. I had crashs at first install but after Hardreset it is working without lags or crashes. Everything is fine.
Ultimaex said:
For WP7 i use the 2GB SanDisc that was sold with the phone. I had crashs at first install but after Hardreset it is working without lags or crashes. Everything is fine.
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you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
I have a sandisk 4gb class 4, everything works normally from the first boot
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My 16GB Sandisk class 2 worked then all of a sudden the phone kept rebooting constantly. I had to reflash again to fix the reboot, 1 hour later it kept screwing up again.
i have wifi problems with my sandisc 2 gb , today i will be tryin lixar on 16gb
I also tried the 2GB SD Card, that came with the phone. It doesn't work. The phone shows only 15mb and the free space is full after a few minutes using it.
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you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
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Yea, phone memory is VERY low but i copied 1,5gb music on my phone with that ****ty zune software and i can play it with the music player on wp7. Looks like the card is in use but only a low ammount for the system i think.
My Kingston 4GB Micro SDHC class 4 works but I'm finding that the Phone can get very laggy. I didn't have this problem when there was no SD card in the phone. I'm guessing its my SD card?
Can everyone post how the phone runs with their SD cards.
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston (SDC4/8GB) work like a charm :>
romskii said:
you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
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same here...shipped sd card didnt work for me
sthEn said:
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston (SDC4/8GB) work like a charm :>
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hm interesting, with the same one my phone wont boot into wp7...
had a 1gb kingston card for testing purpose...this one worked like a charme
8GB Class 4 Toshiba , working very well here on WP7 . Also on Android.
Transcend Micro SD HC 8GB works for me.
tengaar said:
I also tried the 2GB SD Card, that came with the phone. It doesn't work. The phone shows only 15mb and the free space is full after a few minutes using it.
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have the same problem. 2GB Sandisk SD
romskii said:
- SanDisk microSDHC_8GB
SDSDQY-8192-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_16GB
SDSDQY-016G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_32GB
SDSDQ-032G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_4GB
SDSDQ-004G-A11M
-SanDisk microSD_2 GB
SDSDQ-002G-A11M
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Hi bro, cheers for that information. Checked the sources you provided. Interesting comments there, one saying that SanDisk withdrew its compatibility Page since they haven't tested their (those) cards on WP7 yet themselves...
So we actually are left out in the wild with as much info as before. So it is even more important that people here report their experience with their cards.
I would strongly recommend, that people pay very close attention to the performance and any interesting detail before they post reports here. This would ensure quality of this thread is high. Maybe you, the OP could add cards, that have been verified by more than one user as working well to the first post? May i suggest that?
cheers...
Kingston 8 GB class 4 SDHC working fine on WP7
Class 4 Sandisk 8GB, works amazingly!, first flash, of course i hard reset it when it was flashed as per win-mo days
Was using Kingston 8gb class 4. Phone picks up the card fine but I was seeing random lags throughout system . It also slowed the market place down to where it was dreadful to download an app. When I removed card. The system is incredibly speedy, and shutdown speeds are very quick.
I am not sure if this is a general problem with these cards but I am going to send mine into Kingston for a replacement, I've read some reviews that there quality control has been hit and miss and some cards don't operate at rated speed.
Hi, I just for the 16gb sandisk card that was on sale at newegg and my G2 is having problems dectecting it.
I know android has problems with class10 cards so I bought the class 4 one.
when i plug in the card and start up the phone sometimes it say the SD card is blank.
also while im using the phone the sd card will say it unmounted or the android files in the card will turn into weird icons.
does anyone have this problem too?
I formatted it to Fat 32 many times.
i bought the same card on newegg. Although i haven't had the chance to use it yet, i was just gonna format it and copy the whole of my previous SD to it. Does your card work on any other device? if not might need to RMA
No i haven't had time to try it on my other phones yet.
I had to Clone the old card to the new card and so far no problems.
so problem solved?
I think so.
I couldn't just drag the files over.
Do class 10 cards not work on Desire Z ?
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I had a Class 10 patriot and it kept corrupting on me. I RMA'd it several times.
Hmm, I ordered a Transcend 16gb class 10. Hope it'll work.
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The Transcend class 10 8gb worked for me.
Stoerner said:
Do class 10 cards not work on Desire Z ?
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They may or may not work okay. But Class 10 cards seem to cause more problems than lower class cards, based on user posts here. Plus, the extra expense doesn't seem justified, as you will not see much if any performance gain.
Since I'm in school, I got a lot of problems with sandisk product. (stop working without a sing, corrupt, takes days to boot).
For my usb flash drives I use patriot now. Never got problems, especially with the little 8gb usb key. Excellent reviews on newegg.
I bought class 10 16 gb micro usb patriot. Run some bench marks, average 11 mb/s writing. Since 5 months, lot of testing roms and watching videos, no problem yet.
Be careful with bad reviews because some people runs day long benchmarks. It kills flash memory.
oVeRdOsE. said:
Since I'm in school, I got a lot of problems with sandisk product. (stop working without a sing, corrupt, takes days to boot).
For my usb flash drives I use patriot now. Never got problems, especially with the little 8gb usb key. Excellent reviews on newegg.
I bought class 10 16 gb micro usb patriot. Run some bench marks, average 11 mb/s writing. Since 5 months, lot of testing roms and watching videos, no problem yet.
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Does Sandisk work better if you're not in school
Odd. Was it a genuine Sandisk product, purchased from a reliable source (like Newegg). Because there are a heck of a lot of Sandisk counterfeits on places like eBay. Sandisk and Kingston are probably the most counterfeited brands of flash memory. On the other hand, its just possible you had a defective unit. Its impossible for even the most reliable electronics manufacturer to be 100% free of defective units.
I've used 3 different Sandisk Micro-SD cards in my smartphones and tablet, one of them is almost 4 years old. Only had a problem once, and a format fixed it right up. Also used Sandisk SD and CF cards in my cameras for years, without issue.
Today my Transcend 16gb class 10 arrived and I installed in my DZ.
Not any problems until now ...
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My 16gb Sandisk just crapped out on me while i was downloading apps. I just suddenly said the card unmounted? I had to reboot to get the hard back. anyone else having problems?
Ray_jai said:
My 16gb Sandisk just crapped out on me while i was downloading apps. I just suddenly said the card unmounted? I had to reboot to get the hard back. anyone else having problems?
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Happens to me about every other week. My Sandisk 16gb class 4 card is from my local Radio Shack, so I doubt it's fake. Perhaps some G2's don't like class 4 cards? When it happens to me, I see that message when I get up in the morning.
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Oh good, so it's not just me. But damn that sucks. it does get annoying.
I'm using the pre-root Stock 2.3.4 rom. you?
Ray_jai said:
Oh good, so it's not just me. But damn that sucks. it does get annoying.
I'm using the pre-root Stock 2.3.4 rom. you?
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That ROM, and cm7 nighty 204.
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Hey,
I am just flashing Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 now... I buyed a "Class 10 16GB Card" from a German Reseller (Media Markt) today. But while Im flashing using DFT I just have a Speed from 61 kbytes/sec... I think its not that fast, is it? Have I buyed a "fake class 10" card or something? what do you think?
Robin
I done near think you buyed you a fake XP
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dave3588 said:
I done near think you buyed you a fake XP
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Than Ill just go to MM on monday and ask for a refund. I will get one
just started again - was copied over in 1 Minute ca Works great But still some kind of slow
I have both 8GB class 4 and class 10, after 1 week using, Class 4 still best for WP7. With Class 10, I got restart many times
lol this is dragging up some old threads!
righty, quick SD card lesson
WP7 needs quick 4KB RANDOM writes/reads there are various threads showing you want seems to be best
Now, Class 2 and Class 4 have slow sequential speeds, compared to class 6 and 10
The class system is defined by srquential speeds, this is useful info if your using it for a digital camera, the higher the class rating the quicker you can read an write those large files
However windows phone 7 doesnt mess about with large files, it needs to access many smaller files in a random order.
Now, They way in which SOME SD cards get higher sequential speeds (and thus a high class rating) is by working some magic, unfortunately this same magic has a side effct of reducing random access, so the general rule of thumb is this
Class 2-4 will give you a higher CHANCE of working
Class 6-10 will give you less CHANCE of working
I say chance because apart from some PNY class 2 cards there are not any cards out there on the market sold as "high random access speeds"
Its luck, pure an simple, a Sandisk 8GB class 2 might work for one person, but not someone else, the reason for that is almost every card is made differently.
So statistically you will have better luck with a class 2 or 4.....
When moving to Yuki-Xbmod Mango rom I had 4 SD cards
16Gb Transcend Class 4
2Gb Sandisk Class 2
4Gb Kingston Class 4
4Gb "No Name" Card
The "4Gb no-name" card was the only one that worked.
I needed at least 8Gb and I didnt want to buy one and take teh risk so after asking my friends and trying there cards I found a "8Gb no-name card" that worked and had no choice but to swap my 16Gb card for a 8Gb card!!
My experience shows no-name cards work better.
Hi all !
I'm looking for a new (other) SD card for my HTC HD2 with WP7 ROM, because now I have a 8GB Kingston Class4 and its performance is terrible.
WP Bench Free from Marketplace are showing me storage average write = 1,81MB/s
After every ROM flashing I have to spend about 30-40 minutes on "Installing Apps" and finally I can't watch any movie from storage or internet without freezes and stuck.
I'm thinking about SanDisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC 4 or 8GB Class6. Does anybody have this card in HTC Leo with WP7? Is it work fine with WP7? Any advices about new SD card for HD2?
negros81 said:
Hi all !
I'm looking for a new (other) SD card for my HTC HD2 with WP7 ROM, because now I have a 8GB Kingston Class4 and its performance is terrible.
WP Bench Free from Marketplace are showing me storage average write = 1,81MB/s
After every ROM flashing I have to spend about 30-40 minutes on "Installing Apps" and finally I can't watch any movie from storage or internet without freezes and stuck.
I'm thinking about SanDisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC 4 or 8GB Class6. Does anybody have this card in HTC Leo with WP7? Is it work fine with WP7? Any advices about new SD card for HD2?
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SD cards are hit or miss, what works for one may not work for others
in saying that I did several weeks of research on this brand and model
There are actually two versions of the ultra mobile card, a red and grey one, which is a class 6, and a black one which is class 4
Now, from my research, statistically you have a much higher chance of the 16GB class 4 working SDSDQY-016G-E11M is the product code, but this is not a "will work" post, it may do, and there is a good chance it will but then again it might not
I have a 32Gb Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class4 - never skipped a beat - best thing I ever bought for my phone. The only thing to beat that would be a 64Gb card
My research is only against 16GB cards, can't comment on other sizes, random access is the key here tho, so review as many sites as you can with a specific model number, yup sites in Japan too! Record all the random and sequential data you can find, take an average and use that as a basis to buy, its about as accurate as you can get on a subject that by its very nature is random
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so you say that it is better to buy a SanDisk microSDHC Class4 than SanDisk microSDHC Class6...? I'm thinging about 8GB cards, so this is SDSDQ-008G-A11M and SDSDQY-008G-A11A