Developers Stories - Epic 4G General

Hello All,
This post is mainly for developers and is meant to just be kind of a "brain tickler". I think it would be kind of interesting if any ROM, app or mod developers (or android devs in any capacity) to try and provide us the community with a quick and dirty (or longer if you have massive amounts of time, which I'm guessing you don't ) explanation of how you got into Android Development. If you have some coding background already, or if you were already fluent in most linux config files and such, or what I think would be somewhat interesting is someone with none of the above who just runs ubuntu in a vmware for the sole purpose of programming android, and they've never touched code before.
So Devs, tell us your stories. I feel it might help to "humanize" what developers are and help some people who may be afraid to give it a try building their own stuff if we see the wide range of Devs.

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Well let me be the first.
I started rooting phones with my evo. I didn't do know developing untill done time has passed with my epic. You cam say I was a noob when I joined xda. I didn't join xda untill after I got my epic. I had no experience with linux. I'm basically learning as I go along. I have a background in web design. Mostly html and xml and a little bit of java script but all on web design.
I started developing on the epic cause I seen to themes I liked and mixed them together to make one. Androdena and baked snack. This started my quest to make the perfect theme in my eyes. I seen things both themes left things un touched and didn't complete the look. So I started digging in deeper. It was at this time I started getting help from others but for the most part I'm 80% self taught in the short time I've been doing it. Now I'm teaching the people that taught me the last 20%.
As my theme progressed different mods started coming out and I wanted to add them to my theme. That's when I started learning how to edit .jars and writing/editing smali code.
I'm now at the point I'm working on my own mods and porting others. I've been working with k0nan with the SRF rom and reading as much info as I can as I wanna start making my own kernels and roms.
I did all this and I've only been a member if xda for a little over 7months.
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Well let me be the first.
I started rooting phones with my evo. I didn't do know developing untill done time has passed with my epic. You cam say I was a noob when I joined xda. I didn't join xda untill after I got my epic. I had no experience with linux. I'm basically learning as I go along. I have a background in web design. Mostly html and xml and a little bit of java script but all on web design.
I started developing on the epic cause I seen to themes I liked and mixed them together to make one. Androdena and baked snack. This started my quest to make the perfect theme in my eyes. I seen things both themes left things un touched and didn't complete the look. So I started digging in deeper. It was at this time I started getting help from others but for the most part I'm 80% self taught in the short time I've been doing it. Now I'm teaching the people that taught me the last 20%.
As my theme progressed different mods started coming out and I wanted to add them to my theme. That's when I started learning how to edit .jars and writing/editing smali code.
I'm now at the point I'm working on my own mods and porting others. I've been working with k0nan with the SRF rom and reading as much info as I can as I wanna start making my own kernels and roms.
I did all this and I've only been a member if xda for a little over 7months.
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thats pretty bad ass man. Inspirational for sure.

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thats pretty bad ass man. Inspirational for sure.
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Thank you.
My story shows you how far you can go in a short period of time if you put forth the effort to learn.
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daddymikey1975 said:
thats pretty bad ass man. Inspirational for sure.
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Thank you.
My story shows you how far you can go in a short period of time if you put forth the effort to learn.
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Don't forget about all the progress you have made with Swype
Great story Mystery.... Thanks for all you do...

ptfdmedic said:
Don't forget about all the progress you have made with Swype
Great story Mystery.... Thanks for all you do...
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Aww my good ol friend swype....lol. It still gets the best of me sometimes but not as often.
Thank you
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All I wanted a Just in Time compiler in Dalvik VM for Samsung Moment.. We have stable 2.2 JIT on the 2.1 system.

Once I get a new computer I would like to help contribute to the community and may need some assistance.
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Alright I'll share my story. I started developing a few years ago on WM6.5.xxx. I did that for a little while and then moved to BlackBerry. I made the switch to Android last summer. I settled on the Epic and began tinkering. I started out by reverse engineering ROM zips. I started adding to or taking away from and it just kinda grew form there.
I started customizing my ROM's before flashing them and got pretty comfortable doing that. Eventually I worked up the nerve to start sharing the customized ROM's. Over time I was able to do more and more on my own. Making simple scripts or modifying more complex ones and putting ROMs together on my own. My midNIGHT ROM got it's name from the time of day it was I usually worked on it. My life is pretty complicated so the only time I really got to work on this stuff was around midnight. The name just kinda stuck.
I got some good feedback. One day it occurred to me that I could use an Android ROM to help spread Autism Awareness. Most of you know my story if you don't and are interested you can read my blog. People seem to really like the ROM and as more people used it the more I was able to help spread awareness. I have all of you to thank for that. Now I see Autism Awareness ribbons around the forum. I hope to continue to learn from the AMAZING developers here and maybe even some new ones. I want to say thanks to all of you for your support and thanks to all the developers for helping me learn by freely sharing their knowledge.

I would really like to learn how to tear into a kernel, or mess w/ the bluetooth stack hahaha
Have no idea where to start, so i keep poking around

Maybe some day i'll be able to develop roms too
Although i have no clue about programming this stories make me want to take a class
I do see that making a rom is a crazy amount of work but i wanna say some day i gave back to the xda community
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Well I just wanted to add that after being a member on this forum you guys inspired me to go back to college to be a software engineer. So I start my journey tomorrow as it's my first day. Thank you to all the great developers and Themers who inspired me to do this. I look forward to maybe one day developing on android.
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I am recently new to all of this root developement and I'm looking forward to knowing more about it. Want it to be a second nature to me in the future. My Cousin( xda member) rooted my Evo last night and I haven't put down my device since.
Thanks alot for the support and what you guys do for this community.
Indeed these guys (and gals) are great. Rooting is kind of easy now for me but I got to know how to do it thanks to the great tutorials and tools released by the devs and the support of the staff on XDA.
Welcome aboard! Glad your lovin the evo, its an amazing device and since i got mine iv been learning so much sometimes it gives me the brain pain lol.
But its all worth it in the end when you can make it do anything you want it to, and no one elses is quite like ypur own
Thx for the input.
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Just go take a look at the "show us your phone" thread in Themes and Apps. You'll be flashin' like a crazy person in no time!!

NEW Gingerbread and now DEV appreciation thread

I'm starting a new thread in hopes that we can leave the negative shenanigans out of this one and get some work done here. Please help out all you can! Thanks
EDIT: changed the name of the thread a little as this thread is now including appreciation for our awesome devs here!
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My estimate of our wonderful phone receiving 2.3 is Feb. 14th.
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impossible
now mods have two threads to close
when and if someone gets it working, they'll make a thread. threads like this belong in general
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I'm starting a new thread in hopes that we can leave the negative shenanigans out of this one and get some work done here. Please help out all you can! Thanks
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Devs please make sure you parse apps right that is the biggest problem people forget to check also. You must get rid of all eris files. This is a sdk build and really needs alot of changes to make work.
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Just go straight to honeycomb. Cant we just get a rom dump from the blurry pics of the non released motorola tablet shown today on engadget lol.
Now here's my question why must all leaked pictures be blurry??
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So they look "leaky" haha, clear photos don't look underground enough. I think its hilarious how so many people complain about how crappy gingerbread is but then complain when they don't have it after 3 seconds of it being released!
I know this thread will get closed quickly, but I did just want to express my thanks to all the devs here for all the hard work and energy you put into our toys. You guys deserve honor for what you do because many of you have families, real jobs, and real lives and you do all this for free.
But time is money and it costs you many hours so that we can load ridiculously cool software and soup our phones up, again, for free!
Its time we started giving honor, respect, and donations where it belongs. I apologize for the way some people have treated yall here, its not okay. I also think though that those of us who are appreciative need not be silent anymore, as unexpressed gratitude comes across as ingratitude. I am on here a lot checking for updates and downloadin new roms and probably need to speak up more on the positives. I think people only post when something goes wrong: if everything's smooth we silently bask in the rom glory, but if one bug comes our way we blow up the threads.
I know I am generalizing and this doesn't apply to everyone, but this is just what I've observed. Once again I honor you guys for the the skill, talent, and generosity you have to do all these amazing roms and kernels and themes for us. I know you do it for fun but seriously thank you!
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Thats right people, lets all just be thankful we have devs out there supporting our phone. Even if some are split between projects and can't devote full attention to the Dinc, at least its SOMEBODY. At the end of the day, the majority of us would take one look at some code and go "screw that". These people got some major skill, and I'm thankful for ALL the devs every time I see my Dinc with a CM6 bootscreen (And others can insert their own ROM touches, Myn, SR, etc..).
I've always been meaning to really thank the devs here but I never know who to really thank anymore I mean rmk thanks for virtuous ncx I'm sure that's wrong but thanks your your awesome clocks whoever made my iron man splash screen thanks thanks to everyone who has made the eighty million mods I frankenstine into my phone. Without you all my phone would be lame and with you I have something I show off everyday. Thanks a lot to everyone you guys put a lot into stuff that gives close to nothing back and that is just idk awesome lol. I'm done with this thanks rant now. Lol I think we created a thanks thread for now and not a gingerbread one.
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I was going to start a new thread in general just for everyone to thank all the XDA devs working on the Incredible, but this one seems to have that vibe going. Who knows, maybe I still will make that thread. But anyways I just wanted to throw my thanks out there to the devs cause without you this whole forum wouldn't even be here. I know *some of you guys* got trashed earlier on other threads, and I'm sorry for that. I guess some people just got caught up in the smell of gingerbread fresh out of the oven. I hope you guys know that there are those of us who really do appreciate your work and although those like myself don't have the knowledge to write our own code, I personally am willing to help and contribute any way I can. So my hats off to you devs, keep fighting the good fight.
Droid Incredible for the win.
Sincerely,
Cmdoptesc47
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On a more interesting note.. I've been taking breaks from finals studying to play with the new sdk. My first couple attempts of a pure gingerbread rom for inc all resulted in boot loops. I'll definitely have more time to fuss around with it later today though. So, hold your freakin horses. Beggers can't always be choosers
When I get the new lap top I'm loking to make the dev jump
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On a more interesting note.. I've been taking breaks from finals studying to play with the new sdk. My first couple attempts of a pure gingerbread rom for inc all resulted in boot loops. I'll definitely have more time to fuss around with it later today though. So, hold your freakin horses. Beggers can't always be choosers
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I'm working on this as well; boot looping here too. Free time is limited right now, though, so I'm not sure if I'll have anything usable before the new year.
Agree with everyone thanking the devs. You guys are awesome. Thanks for helping free us from the grasps of our carriers and use the full potential of our phones!!!!
I just want to post my thanks to all the developers. One of the reasons i purchased an android phone in the first place is the massive mod community that it had. My experience has been amazing and what some of you guys do is beyond what i can even imagine myself accomplishing with the same tools. The few asshats that get bent of shape every time something doesn't work exactly how they want are just that, the few and the loud. They do not speak for the majority and should be penalized for their disrespect.
As much as i could denounce ****ers like AndroidStu and papi, i understand where IncDoes is coming from. He, along with many other devs, give us all these things that they created in their free time completely free of charge. They owe us nothing and only share their creation with us. I am ashamed to be grouped with such ungrateful ****tards.
I'd also like to take some time to post a quick thanks to our dev community. You guys are superhuman.
If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
Yep it's easy to get in a rut and forget and/or take for granted what these guys do. I used to theme for Blackberry and especially when I had multiple themes going, it seemed to consume every ounce of my free time. And what I was doing is like tinkertoys compared to what these guys are doing...no comparison. Not even in the same universe.
There have been some unfortunate events that have occured in the last day or so but regardless of what and when 2.3 advancements hit...my sincere thanks to all who make this phone and community a better place.
While everyone else is at it ill add
This phone has the best support by far than every other thread
The devs take the time to tackle individual problems that we have along with building us great roms
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While everyone else is at it ill add
This phone has the best support by far than every other thread
The devs take the time to tackle individual problems that we have along with building us great roms
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+1000. i can wait for Gingerbread. between cyanogen's rom, seanzers' CM6 fixes, invisiblek's kernels and everything else available for the DInc I've got an awesome phone and I'm hella grateful. i would be remiss to not at least shout out all the rest of the devs out there who are doing their thing as well.
the only person I know who'd hate on Devs is my wife, who feels like she's lost me to ROM flashing, kernel swapping, radio upgrading and all the other shenanigans that go with have root, bloody root.
I must also say thanks to all the devs the DInc has
You guys do some amazing stuff that I could never do

Team Komin (The New QAM)

Hello Everyone,
If you have not read there was a post made by vbhines wanting to start a group named QAM which is a development group completely for the android community (specifically the samsung captivate for the moment). This means no more flaming, no more trolling, no more blaming other people for stealing, no more fighting!
"We are a community for the community."
My plans for this group is to help improve the experience of any phone that we develop for. We will help out anyone that is in need meaning that if an app or a kernel or anything that will help improve the experience of android on our phones we may or may not make that specific item that is requested or wanted etc.
Since we are a community for a community everything we will be releasing will be open source so whatever way we choose (more then likely on github) to release the source of our work you will be able to get it. Our documentation will be the best possible.
We will always be looking for more contributors to this group/cause. It doesn't matter what you can do it only matters if you help out and don't ruin the work flow . Developers will always be in need as well as UI/Graphic Designers. People that will help out with documentation would be fantastic so that we will always be well organised. We would like this group to be as diverse as possible.
We want to be a much more mature development group so our releases will be well tested so updates come less often which means your experience will be much better since you do not have to flash so often.
We already have quite a good backing by some new up and coming developers who have quite a nice background and we are hoping for more backing by the rest of the community.
I will be updating this more and more because there are more things to come.
Website: http://www.teamkomin.com/ (Still a little bit to do.)
Come join us in our IRC:
Server: irc.freenode.net
Channel: #teamkomin
WebChat: http://webchat.freenode.net/
Desktop IRC Client:
Linux: Xchat
Windows: Xchat
OS X: Colloquy
Mobile IRC Client: Andchat
P.S.
vbhines allowed me to take over this group because he is much to busy. He will be joining us later when his life is not so hectic and he is happy to help us in any way.
I'm glad to see this taking off!
I'm excited to see how quickly and well this is all coming together.
Good luck guys....will be following your progress.....
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Good luck guys....will be following your progress.....
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i think the team would love to have you on board with theming....
the more the marrier. Typo
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Looking forward to see what you guys produce
Hi everyone, I would really love to help this open source project along! However im afraid my only actually skills are a little bit of photoshop manipulation. I would appreciate it if everyone listed good books or web pages to learn programming from. Its been one of my many dreams to actually develop for android . Thanks in advanced and im glad to see the direction this project is taking
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Captivated like a MoFo
Bye Bye Blackberry. Hello Android.
Like comparing a wife versus a mistress.
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Bye Bye Blackberry. Hello Android.
Like comparing a wife versus a mistress.
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this post... and your username go so well together, lol.
but on-topic: im really glad to see something finally being done with this, i could definitly take any test roms for a spin.
in order of when someone first posted something about this:
OMG i cant wait!>what happened?>hmm idk if this is gonna work out>this guy is getting everyone pretty pumped>OMG! its actually working!
Im excited. No more ported roms that only work 85% on the captivate.
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Cannot get to #teamkomin on 10.04 with xchat. is the channel up?
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Cannot get to #teamkomin on 10.04 with xchat. is the channel up?
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Yes its up and running. You sure you got the right server and everything?
Alright guys the site is up and running I just need to setup categories for the forum and we should be good to go! Everything should be done by today depending on how fast I finish up homework etc. I am hoping it will be done though.
We will start a lot more development this weekend. Since I wont have anything to do plus I have 2 weeks off.
The plans for this weekend is to setup a hierarchy and actually establish developers etc.
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That's awesome what's the url going to be?
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spartan07 said:
That's awesome what's the url going to be?
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I'm guessing:
http://www.teamkomin.com ? lol
http://www.teamkomin.com/
dang it...
Just posted the website to the OP. Yes its teamkomin.com.
I have a little bit more to do. I need to add custom menus the navigation so the forum will be implemented. The forum page is http://www.teamkomin.com/forum/
I'm going to hop over to irc tomorrow. I'm best on the debugging end, but not yet in apk modding minus the lg launcher below. I've got to crash this evening, but ill be around tomorrow eve.
(Did also try and help xcal with alittle on his kernel and the headset issue, but he ended up cracking it himself... him and I went back and forth with pms for weeks....)
I would love to help however I can. I have some Java and C experience (not a whole lot, i can debug) and extensive web design experience. Let me know.

Sick of silly dev roms

I always wanted to share this as some people call themselves developers in this forum by just removing and adding some apps and making roms "look faster". What they is actually going into the app called spare parts and choose the fast transition and fast windows animations. So why not trying these settings on cm7 and see which is faster people? Or any other rom developed by true developers!! I am not saying im against rom development but at least if u are trying to develop then do something unique and not a rom that even my grandma could do
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I agree mostly... the vast majority of roms available for us right now are just themed CM7. that's fine and dandy, but it's particularly amusing to me when people talk smack about CM7 being "slow" or "buggy" etc and then claim their new rom of choice, a CM7 variant, is the best thing since sliced bread.
that said, even theming can be a hell of a task, and extremely time consuming. I appreciate all of the work the development community provides to us (free of charge, mind you).
I don't see what you are trying to get at here. For a start I have tried just about every rom there is and I don't believe I have ever come across one that has window tansitions set to fast by default. We have a really good mix of devs here doing different things and do great work. You need to remember that devs build a rom that they like, quite often it is built for them and they choose to release it to the general public.
One of the great things about this community is choice. A rom that one person loves and another will hate, its all about personal preference.
Do you know anything about developing a rom? I don't but I knw a lot of work goes in to them and the devs do a lot more than change some settings on spare parts to make there rom different, better and faster than the next rom.
Your post in insulting to the devs that work really hard to give us something cool and awesome.
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Well said. You must strive to support to the best of your abilities, the development scene for this respective phone.
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There is a MAJOR difference between Chef and Developers, that's why we have the term Chef for non devs that make ROMs.
I never said not supporting TRUE dev!! Im referring to those that call themselves devs by removing and adding a few apps. Go into other handsets forums and see what i mean. For ouf g2 only a few deserve to be called devs. Thats what im saying..
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I know who your referring to, and if your not referring to someone in particular, there is someone who repackages stuff that offers nothing new and everyone wets there pants over it. Getting on my nerves somewhat.
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There is a MAJOR difference between Chef and Developers, that's why we have the term Chef for non devs that make ROMs.
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And does anyone actually use the chef title here on the g2 forum? No....
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I think this thread really exemplifies a major issue in the dev community: The lack of drive for a unified stable product whose basic functions all work properly across a cross section of devices.
Theaming is all well and good, but if MMS doesn't work and you have force crashes on multiple internal apps; what exactly is it all good for? If I can't boot up gps, then what the heck does it matter? If internal components and tweaks are confusing and ill thought out, then why the heck are they being shared?
I really think that the dev community needs to sit down across multiple devices & hash these issues out.
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I think this thread really exemplifies a major issue in the dev community: The lack of drive for a unified stable product whose basic functions all work properly across a cross section of devices.
Theaming is all well and good, but if MMS doesn't work and you have force crashes on multiple internal apps; what exactly is it all good for? If I can't boot up gps, then what the heck does it matter? If internal components and tweaks are confusing and ill thought out, then why the heck are they being shared?
I really think that the dev community needs to sit down across multiple devices & hash these issues out.
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Yohu know what your looking for? A stock rom....they all work! The devs here are pushing the boundries and taking our phones to the edge! Of course not everything will work out of the box and if they fixed everything before they released it they would have to deal with everyone begging for the next release.
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I know who your referring to, and if your not referring to someone in particular, there is someone who repackages stuff that offers nothing new and everyone wets there pants over it. Getting on my nerves somewhat.
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Thats what im talking about. I m glad someone agrees with me.. cheers mate
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Thats what im talking about. I m glad someone agrees with me.. cheers mate
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Thought I was the only one too but did not want to be rude or sound ungrateful. I do appreciate every quote on quote devs work and passion for making us roms. But some of these are just stock with the equivelant of removing bloat with titanium backup. No system tweaks. Nothing really even changed. if anything they should just be called bloatless roms or something.
On another note, while I do get annoyed that a lot of stuff is just cyanogen with a slick of paint on it, obviously the work it takes to build a rom from the ground up is not easy. Otherwise we would see a lot more of them. I do understand that and do not take lightly how hard it probably is. Maybe the answer is let's port some roms from other phones? Like insertcoin for example? Or maybe all the devs that are just repackaging stuff get together and form something along the lines of what the bionix team does and all work together to make one super good rom.
I LOVE the choices we have with this phone. Its f-in awesome. But sometimes I feel like its just a placebo with really one 3 to 4 actual unique roms for our g2. I do not know how to make roms, so I'm not acting like this can be done overnight. But some of this just seems like common sense no matter what angle your coming from.
Obviously rmk is a rom god. And suilmagic seems like an up and comer. Pershoots kick ass. I thought for a minute there was many a rumor that eugene was heading our way, which if true would probably cause a dam near astronomical shift in this forum, hope there is some truth to that rumor. Those are devs that stand out to me, if I didn't say your name I just didn't think of you when I was writing this.
Thank you for indulging my two cents. I do not mean to offend anyone whatsoever. I appreciate everything you guys do for us. But let's not sugarcoat the reality of our situation.
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kokoskokis544, welcome to the club
what enrages me the most is the absence of detailed information on what exactly is done to the rom - goes against the community spirit.
I would like to research the changes myself and make sure there's nothing that can damage my phone.
actually, from my point of view, the worst thing is when someone does not give deserved credit - "Grab, use and forget"
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kokoskokis544, welcome to the club
what enrages me the most is the absence of detailed information on what exactly is done to the rom - goes against the community spirit.
I would like to research the changes myself and make sure there's nothing that can damage my phone.
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I agree that is extremely annoying. And then you ask what is it in it or whats different from other roms and you get a "INSTALL IT STUPID AND FIND OUT"....YA WELL UP YOURS TOO
even decompiling a rom and making minor changes like adding/removing apks and tweaking existing settings takes hours of work. theming is even more time consuming. I don't think most people realize this. the work itself isn't "hard," but the amount of time you have to set aside to be able to do this kind of stuff is extremely tough to come by, at least for me.
in that respect, you should all be grateful for the time ALL devs and chefs, regardless of the substance of their contributions, devote to giving us new stuff to play with.
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even decompiling a rom and making minor changes like adding/removing apks and tweaking existing settings takes hours of work. theming is even more time consuming. I don't think most people realize this. the work itself isn't "hard," but the amount of time you have to set aside to be able to do this kind of stuff is extremely tough to come by, at least for me.
in that respect, you should all be grateful for the time ALL devs and chefs, regardless of the substance of their contributions, devote to giving us new stuff to play with.
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I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
[sig]My mission is to hit 1000 posts by 23/05/2011[sig]
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I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
[sig]My mission is to hit 1000 posts by 23/05/2011[sig]
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Make that two. I don't really see a reason to get all aggro over something that is free. As to something that "might damage my phone".... um.. what? To my knowledge, the devs (or whatever some may wish to call them) are not into the practice of putting out toxic software for us to download. To make sure, I use this goofy thing called judgement. I'll look at a new ROM, read the dev comments, wait a while, read the feedback comments, and make a decision. Not complicated. If there are a ton of bugs and problems, I'll wait until later versions come out that correct these issues. Or I'll choose another ROM. I honestly don't see the point of complaining about free services and a plethora of options. If people don't like all that, unroot and stay with stock software.
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I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
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No, I'm with you too. While I don't know zip about development, I can appreciate the fact that it takes time and effort to create and upload a ROM, even one that is just a tweaked version of someone else's work.
While the OP seems to be complaining about one or a few people in particular, it seems that many people who post ROMs are doing it for the sheer enjoyment, or to create something unique for themselves. Then, they go out of their way to upload and post it on here for others to enjoy. Of course, giving credit when its due, and describing what has been changed (and what hasn't), as previously suggested, are all good points as well.
Its not like there is a whole lot of fortune and glory associated with calling yourself a "developer". If somebody is even calling themselves that, its probably due to lack of a better term, more than anything else. Its a bit cumbersome to go around calling yourself "Guy who modified a ROM for myself, and now posting it for others to enjoy".
Besides, if you don't like a person's ROMs, just don't use them or read his threads. Not enough ROMs tends to be the more common complaint, rather than too many (although obviously quality is a factor as well, not just quantity).
If you really wanna ***** about free services then don't use them, switch phones, go to a different dev community. People do this work for fun, they don't ask for money for the hours of work they put in. You should be appreciative for whatever ROMs we get ,especially if you don't "dev" yourself.
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thanks to everyone on xda

I wanted say thank you to everyone on xda. I was a apple fan before my atrix, the post on xda gave me all the knowledge and tools to unlock my atrix to its full proformance and made me a android fan. Thanks to all the developers for there hard work and time. Due to your knowledge I went from a nob to being able to do almost anything I want to my phone. This is truely the best community to be a part of.
hear hear
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ac1480 said:
I wanted say thank you to everyone on xda. I was a apple fan before my atrix, the post on xda gave me all the knowledge and tools to unlock my atrix to its full proformance and made me a android fan. Thanks to all the developers for there hard work and time. Due to your knowledge I went from a nob to being able to do almost anything I want to my phone. This is truely the best community to be a part of.
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I notice that this is your first post and I am wondering what you'd think about becoming a more active member of the boards and helping people along (as you have been !!)
I would like to help anyone I can. Im still learning myself but I would like to share what I have found. I will surf the boards and see what input I can give. "All hail android"
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love the devs and the whole
community around android and *atrix
you guys are awsone and we love you for all your contributions and time away from Your lifes to give to the community
its often overlooked how much time it takes to do build this stuff from roms to themes to root apps to guides /everything its really awsome and im so glad to be a part of it
Thankyou

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