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Nexus S 4G announced for Sprint...

http://goo.gl/juc8e

Well, I thought Sprint was going to announce that tomorrow. I wonder if they are going to replace that announcement with the Atrix and Xoom.
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Guess this means EVO 3D announcement is around the corner, ha. Odd time to release this, but hey, maybe it won't sell like crap, and show Sprint/Samsung that hey, manufacturer skins are garbage, keep it stock. Well, one can hope...

I think the AT&T - TMobile merger must have triggered this.

andythegreenguy said:
I think the AT&T - TMobile merger must have triggered this.
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Me too. Nice to see sprint and google getting all kozy. warms the cockles...

I can't wait to get one.
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cteneyck said:
Me too. Nice to see sprint and google getting all kozy. warms the cockles...
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Even more so when you consider that Sprint is replacing vvm with google voice.
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/03/21/sprint-google-voice-cozy-heavy-integration-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/evo-3d-specs-confirmed-1080p-2d-video-720p-3d-dual-cameras-1/

I think the Nexus S will be a suitable replacement for the Hero. Although I must say that I will be a bit sad to see it go...
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Wow this is not going to be an easy choice next upgrade... can't wait for reviews on the 3d
HTC SuperHero Vanilla/Gingerbread 2.3.3 all credit to AOSP

The idea of a "pure Google experience" is very enticing, but if the HTC EVO 3D becomes a reality also, this upgrade I've been sitting on for a couple months goes to HTC. The 2 side by side, I don't think the Nexus brand is enough to persuade me to give Sammy another try.
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I like the idea of a stock Android phone on Sprint, and sure, it's a overall great phone, but it's still 7-8 month old tech. Sure, the 3D is going to have Sense sadly, but I can't imagine the development scene for that beast being small.

stayclean said:
I like the idea of a stock Android phone on Sprint, and sure, it's a overall great phone, but it's still 7-8 month old tech. Sure, the 3D is going to have Sense sadly, but I can't imagine the development scene for that beast being small.
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Sure, it will have Sense, but from what I understand, it's upgraded Sense, and with far more horsepower pushing it, it may not be so bad.
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I like the nexus S but i want a bigger screen. 4.8 or 5" is what i want. I have a bad feeling the new Evo 3d Will be at least 350$ with contract. I dont know why i could get a nex if i could have a dual core 3d evo for the same price.

user7618 said:
Sure, it will have Sense, but from what I understand, it's upgraded Sense, and with far more horsepower pushing it, it may not be so bad.
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Oh, it'll definitely run smooth I'm sure, I just really, really, really dislike basically everything about it's appearance, way it handles certain things (contact stuff and etc), and whatnot. At least there is basically no way there won't be a great development scene for it.
Also, http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/htc-evo-3d-first-hands-on/

will they all leave?

i dont start threads, but what the hell.
I was wondering which of the devolopers will be leaveing for the 3D (or else where). I sure some will stay, but all good things come to an end. Thought I would throw this out to be kicked around, so to say.

Im not a Dev but im getting the 3D but also I'm keeping My EVO.
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Willing to bet that most will get an Evo 3D.
Some will leave, new devs will come as well.

mattykinsx said:
Willing to bet that most will get an Evo 3D.
Some will leave, new devs will come as well.
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really good to hear that thought, these Dev's are awsome! they have made my EVO experience rich and full.
Hope to see them all on the other side..

Judging by this thread, looks like we are going to have very good support for development on the 3d side
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008413
I'm sure some will continue with the evo also tho.
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I wouldn't worry about this too much. Yeah, there will be some jumping ship but if you peak XDA's front page the Evo is the most popular phone on XDA. I tossed the idea around to go with the 3d but I want to see reviews once its released. I would be willing to bet that with the first 3d phone there are going to be bugs like crazy. I know they test a lot but there are bound to be some issues.

cant wait to see what happens with the 3D. im sure everyone wont bail at first but it will happen

unless i can get a 3d for cheap ill pass on it for now and wait for the galaxy s 2 to come. i think the evo has a good 6 months of dev life left in it.

fixxxer2008 said:
unless i can get a 3d for cheap ill pass on it for now and wait for the galaxy s 2 to come. i think the evo has a good 6 months of dev life left in it.
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There is a GOD! Best news I heard all day, LOL

Yeah from what I've seen review wise about the galaxy s2 and say...the HTC sensation, the Samsung looks a lot smoother more snappy over all unless you can't live without HTCs UI (i like it personally) then I would go for the GS2 from what I've seen. And I don't think they're going to screw it up and put a keyboard on it this time. (that may change with other versions on down the line though)
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Evo
I tiink some will leave,but the core will just add 3D to their list of great roms

cordell12 said:
There is a GOD! Best news I heard all day, LOL
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Lmao +1
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Yellowcard8992 said:
I wouldn't worry about this too much. Yeah, there will be some jumping ship but if you peak XDA's front page the Evo is the most popular phone on XDA. I tossed the idea around to go with the 3d but I want to see reviews once its released. I would be willing to bet that with the first 3d phone there are going to be bugs like crazy. I know they test a lot but there are bound to be some issues.
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EVO is the most popular currently because the 3D is not even out yet. With that being said I'm sure devs will work on multiple phones. Myn works on a few different phones for example.

unswayed said:
is anyone waiting and picking up the GalaxyS2 in July instead of the EVO 3d in June?
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Where did you get info that the Galaxy is coming out in July? The verizon post was retracted.

Some of the dev.s for the Evo don't even have an Evo. It's not required to own the phone if you're a skilled enough developer. And we definitely have those on board with the evo.

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Where did you get info that the Galaxy is coming out in July? The verizon post was retracted.
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Going to be called the "within" on Sprint, Supposed July Release....
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20...s-release-on-sprint-within-to-arrive-in-july/
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Data Roaming and its problems

Ok, so I switched to Sprint from Verizon for the Nexus S 4G. I know people with Evo's and they have never complained about signal issues in my area. So I get my NS and immediately I have signal issues. Can't make phone calls or send text and forget about surfing the internet. It was so bad that the battery would drain in 5-6 hours because I couldn't get a signal. I am still within my 30 days so I am considering switching to the EVO 3D or even going back to Verizon. I have tried updating to all the newest PRL's and none of them made any difference. That is until I switched to the hybrid Verizon PRL 00001. I now get great signal, can connect to 3G wherever and have had excellent battery life. My fear is that if I keep the phone I will no doubt go over the 300mb supposedlt unlimited amount of data roaming. How long can I do this before Sprint finds out? Should I even try exchanging the phone, or just switch the to 3VO? I love the NS4G, but obviously it is no good to me if I can't use it at all and when I can use it I risk being kicked out of contract. I've read threads on Sprint doing it, but how often does it happen?

No replies, not even flaming?

Keep your nexus or go to another carrier. You don't want the 3d
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mikeyinid said:
Keep your nexus or go to another carrier. You don't want the 3d
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Why doesn't he want the 3d?

Personally, I decided to hold onto the phone, and patiently wait for a fix. They are aware of the problem. The phone's just too darn good to switch to a different one.
You're on your own with the prl hack. I just got kicked off a different carrier for roaming too much, and I wasn't even using a custom prl.

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Why doesn't he want the 3d?
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Yea, let me re-phrase that. I wouldnt trade my Nexus for a 3D. If there isnt a fix for the radio I'd rather have the OG Evo than the 3D.

mikeyinid said:
Yea, let me re-phrase that. I wouldnt trade my Nexus for a 3D. If there isnt a fix for the radio I'd rather have the OG Evo than the 3D.
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That makes no sense... How did you come up with this conclusion on a phone you probably have never even held?
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DirtyShroomz said:
That makes no sense... How did you come up with this conclusion on a phone you probably have never even held?
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Well, my experience with HTC devices is ****. Thats what I base that conclusion on. I did say that I wouldnt trade MY NS4G for a 3D. I think the 3D is gonna be a P.O.S. and most of the bugs with the OG Evo have been worked out.
I just sold my Thunderbolt because it was the biggest pile of **** phone Ive ever owned. I expect more of the same from the 3D. Sorry if this offends you...

mikeyinid said:
Well, my experience with HTC devices is ****. Thats what I base that conclusion on. I did say that I wouldnt trade MY NS4G for a 3D. I think the 3D is gonna be a P.O.S. and most of the bugs with the OG Evo have been worked out.
I just sold my Thunderbolt because it was the biggest pile of **** phone Ive ever owned. I expect more of the same from the 3D. Sorry if this offends you...
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HTC + Sprint = frustration

mikeyinid said:
Well, my experience with HTC devices is ****. Thats what I base that conclusion on. I did say that I wouldnt trade MY NS4G for a 3D. I think the 3D is gonna be a P.O.S. and most of the bugs with the OG Evo have been worked out.
I just sold my Thunderbolt because it was the biggest pile of **** phone Ive ever owned. I expect more of the same from the 3D. Sorry if this offends you...
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No, actually you told the OP that HE doesn't want the 3D.
The 3D is a pretty awesome phone. Major upgrade over the Evo 4G. It's worth taking a look at. No major downsides to it, really. The 3D is gimmicky and destroys battery life, but it's something you can leave off all the time and never think about.

While I appreciates "everyone's" opinions I was more looking for answers on sprint dropping people for data roaming. I've used 200mb in a week and that is not downloading anything
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No one can really answer your question. If you're roaming basically all the time, you will probably get a warning at some point. If your Sprint service is that bad, it's probably for the best anyway - gets you out of a contract and lets you move to another carrier/.

jonnythan said:
No, actually you told the OP that HE doesn't want the 3D.
The 3D is a pretty awesome phone. Major upgrade over the Evo 4G. It's worth taking a look at. No major downsides to it, really. The 3D is gimmicky and destroys battery life, but it's something you can leave off all the time and never think about.
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"Yea, let me re-phrase that. I wouldnt trade MY Nexus for a 3D. If there isnt a fix for the radio I'd rather have the OG Evo than the 3D."
This ^^ is actually what I said. And whats the point of a 3D phone if you have 3D off all the time? I would really rather have the OG Evo. Or the Photon, which will be a way better phone than the 3D.
I actually know someone that has had the 3D since Monday and also has a NS4G, and he 100% confirms that the NS4G is a better phone. He is a member here but I wont throw him under the bus. Hopefully he will see this thread and share with you guys some of the things he has shared with me. I did ask him last night via Gtalk if his opinion of the 3D had changed since he initially told me he didnt like it. His exact words were, "no, I just cant make the jump".

In what way could the Evo 4G be considered a superior device to the Evo 3D? Dual-core CPU, a real GPU, twice the RAM, more onboard storage, higher resolution display.

Never said it was superior.
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In what way could the Evo 4G be considered a superior device to the Evo 3D? Dual-core CPU, a real GPU, twice the RAM, more onboard storage, higher resolution display.
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mikeyinid said:
Never said it was superior.
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I suppose I was assuming that you would consider the phone you prefer to be the superior phone.

No. I usually would but in this case I'm going with the one that will piss me off the least.
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I suppose I was assuming that you would consider the phone you prefer to be the superior phone.
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What about the Evo 3D would piss you off? What about it is inferior to the Evo 4G besides the fact that you can't put a custom ROM on it yet?

ehhh i kind of agree, not that its inferior or the evo is superior, but that its just seems gimmicky and well for lack of a better word.... useless. the whole 3D is a lot of smoke and mirrors. i would rather know theres solid hardware inside doing a solid job....like say reception.
some would say filet mignon is a superior cut, i on the other hand would prefer a nice ribeye any day. now im stavin. hey earl...........

smalltownbird said:
While I appreciates "everyone's" opinions I was more looking for answers on sprint dropping people for data roaming. I've used 200mb in a week and that is not downloading anything
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You would need to be pulling gbs of data while roaming consistently to be tossed
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Why has the Epic not been EOL'd like the EVO?

Not understanding why Sammy doesn't just EOL the Epic. We already have the next gen out in the wild. And I'm thinking more and more each day that we will never even see 'official' Gingerbread.
Tired of having to keep checking here to see if official 2.3.4 is here and it never is and I crawl back in my hole and cry myself to sleep.
Don't know why I even care, my next phone won't be until the Galaxy S III hits the US. Flame away I guess.

Maybe because the epic touch was released after the evo 3d?
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My theory is that this phone has a lot left in it. For a phone still running Froyo it can still hold its own against Gingerbread phones. This was one of the few Froyo phones to get skype video chat support (even though we can't use the ffc). This phone is. Damn good phone and now with LTE coming mid-2012 no one will want to give it up. Most people with an Evo have moved on to a new phone, Epic owners are still holding on. Plus compared to the Evo Shift this is the best andrid phone with a keyboard and no telling if there will be another. Just my thoughts
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R3537L1F3 said:
My theory is that this phone has a lot left in it. For a phone still running Froyo it can still hold its own against Gingerbread phones. This was one of the few Froyo phones to get skype video chat support (even though we can't use the ffc). This phone is. Damn good phone and now with LTE coming mid-2012 no one will want to give it up. Most people with an Evo have moved on to a new phone, Epic owners are still holding on. Plus compared to the Evo Shift this is the best andrid phone with a keyboard and no telling if there will be another. Just my thoughts
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EOL was supposed to be October but at the bottom of the EOL it said *these dates are subject to change
Obviously they changed for the epic.

Probably because there aren't a lot of high end Android phones with a physical keyboard on Sprint, while there are plenty of ones without. It fills a niche. The EVO doesn't.

I hope this mean they will keep the epic 4g as a mid-range phone and extend its life all throughout 2012.

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http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/2...-and-more-going-way-old-yeller-coming-months/
right here the epic 4g is end of life this month,,,,
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That article is from July. It could still happen but they changed their plans already...

revol.epic said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/2...-and-more-going-way-old-yeller-coming-months/
right here the epic 4g is end of life this month,,,,
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With the top saying dates subject to chance. Apparently people don't read things in their entirety and just what they want to see.

revol.epic said:
ok you read into it that the chance meant the epic what about the chance meaning one of the other phones like the evo 4g? bottom line is that sprint did announce the end of life epic 4g which is what i said and that they listed it as october which is true. so i did report it correctly and sprint has not said anything to the contrary about it either, so oct is it...
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Outdated list, sprint Has removed it from the list since then. Of course they announced it, but "subject to change" which it has. Here you go.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/sprint-end-of-life-listing-updated/
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revol.epic said:
ok but i still stand by the fact that it was announced. however just because it was not on the other list does not mean anything. It could be that since it was announced no need to state it again or that perhaps sprint is only giving it a month or so longer as verizon is getting the epic 4g 2 (now not apart of the galaxy s series) so we also know that sprint is getting a version as well also not a gs2 or gs.
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Actually they do need to restate them hence the EVO still being there. And the Stratosphere is going to be a galaxy s line phone, and sprint is not getting one.
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revol.epic said:
ok but i still stand by the fact that it was announced. however just because it was not on the other list does not mean anything. It could be that since it was announced no need to state it again or that perhaps sprint is only giving it a month or so longer as verizon is getting the epic 4g 2 (now not apart of the galaxy s series) so we also know that sprint is getting a version as well also not a gs2 or gs.
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Why would they list the EVO twice if that was the case? Back in July and recent. I understand where you're coming from but this absolutist end of the Epic mood you put into your posts is unneeded. There is no point in complaining, it's a phone, we're on Android. The OS and the phones move so fast that top of the line is end of the line in a matter of days to be figurative. It's not end of line at the moment. It will be but not now.
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I know some were hoping for EOL so they could time their insurance fraud properly to get an upgrade instead of a replacement Epic.

CapsLockKey said:
Probably because there aren't a lot of high end Android phones with a physical keyboard on Sprint, while there are plenty of ones without. It fills a niche. The EVO doesn't.
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Exactly. There isn't a phone that has replaced it yet. I require a physical keyboard for my day to day use of my phone. I have tried to go virtual keyboard and just can't do it. Kind of hard to type shell commands in with virtual keyboard without the frustration of wanting to throw the phone out the window kicking in.

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I know some were hoping for EOL so they could time their insurance fraud properly to get an upgrade instead of a replacement Epic.
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Lol well played.
Sent from my Epic 4G

The EVO is a piece of crap and the Epic is Epic.
I believe the Epic is Epic and the EVO is dull.

Even if it does get EOL'd...our development here will keep this phone on the map for a LONG time in my opinion!!
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If we ever get source
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revol.epic said:
if we ever get gingerbread. i think their maybe a newer secret built that we dont know about. i am flashed to revol with working internet and text but mms is no go... tried it with gingerbread and ec05.... but the reason i switched is because of end of life stigma. but lets face it many devs have switched to newer duel core phones and the dev community for epic was good considering we had nowhere near the evo 4g community but people are moving on.
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Yeah, I know some have moved on, but even without GB source right now, we still have some awesome folks out here STILL making improvements to EC05...when GB source gets here, I believe (hopefully) we will see the return of a few. I think this phone will be around for a long time! All my opinion of course ....
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I still think it's a great phone. It does everything I need and I even run my business from it. I remember when the only way to update your OS was to by a new phone or hack it. So I'm not really worried about GB. I can't miss what I never had. Just my $.02

Muckrak3r said:
Not understanding why Sammy doesn't just EOL the Epic. We already have the next gen out in the wild. And I'm thinking more and more each day that we will never even see 'official' Gingerbread.
Tired of having to keep checking here to see if official 2.3.4 is here and it never is and I crawl back in my hole and cry myself to sleep.
Don't know why I even care, my next phone won't be until the Galaxy S III hits the US. Flame away I guess.
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Dude because not everyone goes and buys a new phone once they come out not everyone has money nor wants to do that. PLAIN IN SIMPLE.

When will we see the next Sprint HTC superphone?

I love the new Galaxy Nexus, but I am partial to HTC phones. When will they give us a new super phone on Sprint?
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i second that. I returned my epic touch. the radio sucked and had nothing but issues on all 3 of them. Ill gladly keep using the evo until htc lte phones come out

Joey SR said:
i second that. I returned my epic touch. the radio sucked and had nothing but issues on all 3 of them. Ill gladly keep using the evo until htc lte phones come out
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LTE phone on sprint aren't supposed to come out till 'roughly' june/july next year.

teh roxxorz said:
LTE phone on sprint aren't supposed to come out till 'roughly' june/july next year.
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nothing wrong with that... no point in upgrading early 2012 knowing that your phone will be out-dated in terms of wimax vs lte in a few months

rydehard86 said:
I love the new Galaxy Nexus, but I am partial to HTC phones. When will they give us a new super phone on Sprint?
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Not that I'm all for Apple, but I believe at the moment, the iPhone 4s is their number one phone at the moment...but that's alright, I don't think that will last too long, I'm kinda interested in Nokia and Windows Phone Apollo...
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Next HTC phone should be released in early summer and be as the evo successor and if right should be announced at ctia and should be flagship for their first LTE phone
sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it

The evo is plenty now. With no more yearly upgrades, why waste it now on a wimax phone thats not going anywhere.
Long live Evo
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Rocklee99 said:
Not that I'm all for Apple, but I believe at the moment, the iPhone 4s is their number one phone at the moment...but that's alright, I don't think that will last too long, I'm kinda interested in Nokia and Windows Phone Apollo...
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Sprint is throttling the iPhones data. Bro in law has been *****ing bout it since launch day. Did a Google search and he's not only one, huge deal! So imo I wouldn't claim 4s to be a power dog when they're only getting .02 mbps upload average lol
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Yea I love my Evo. I probably won't upgrade till LTE is fully up and running
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Yeah my Evo is running 2.3.5 and sense 3.5 overclocked and all the goodies, so what would I "upgrade" to anyway until LTE is up and running? So I don't have Seri and can't make appointments while I'm jogging.. I don't jog anyway so take that Apple!!

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Yeah my Evo is running 2.3.5 and sense 3.5 overclocked and all the goodies, so what would I "upgrade" to anyway until LTE is up and running? So I don't have Seri and can't make appointments while I'm jogging.. I don't jog anyway so take that Apple!!
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We have "voice actions" in the market. It's actually superior to Seri in my opinion! It actually learns and will get to know you!

Hemipwr07 said:
Yea I love my Evo. I probably won't upgrade till LTE is fully up and running
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True that. An upgrade to an non-LTE phone and this point doesn't make sense to me. OG Evo still running strong.

the next flagship phone will probably come out next summer lol

SONIC589 said:
We have "voice actions" in the market. It's actually superior to Seri in my opinion! It actually learns and will get to know you!
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WTF, you saying I need to jog??

may grab the evo design 4g just to hold me til the summer http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/sprint-unleashes-the-htc-evo-design-4g-available-october-23rd-f/

I say when they get ready to launch LTE. Although, I would like to see an HTC version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Not really into the whole stylus, nor 3D. I just want bigger, faster, more memory. Want to get fancy, include a optical, non-digital zoom for the camera.

I think ICS will make my decision for me. IF the OG EVO can get an AOSP ICS build (with or without WiMAX) I'm going to keep it until I see how Sprint's LTE rollout goes. I'm gonna tide myself over with a Windows 8 tablet when they launch...