I'm trying to figure out if some of the instability/sluggishness I'm having is related to widgets I'm using.
As I noted in another thread the Google Reader widget (wide one with scrolling stories) was the culprit behind a great deal of instability. As soon as I removed that thing the XOOM was smoother and more stable.
I'm still having some issues however and was curious if you could post what widgets you are using and if you've encountered any issues with your XOOM (reboots, restarts, crashes, slowness)?
This way I can hopefully get a sense of what is safe. Right now to me it appears anything that's not designed for Honeycomb (widgetwise) could cause a problem so for now I'm using only Honeycomb widgets.
I use 2 GMail widgets (1 for each of my GMail accounts), the calendar widget, and the Speedtest.net widget set for cellular data.
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Since there appears to be such conflicting reports about lag or lack there of; I think it would benefit us all if we start to list who is having lag and who isn't whilst including where you bought the phone etc....
so to those that are having lag, give us these details:
1.) where and when did you get the phone, including the color
2.) branded or unbranded
3.) look under the battery or where ever for serial numbers or manufacturing dates
4.) report what firmware (if possible) and what the "about android" says in the OS
5.) what you are perceiving to be slow and when it occurs
If you would like some other examples of "slowness" check out the comments here: http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2009/08/htc-hero-review-part-two/
Note that after some discussion, all parties involved are equally confused and can't understand the opposing experiences of the other. I would also like to see reports from those that haven't experienced any lag or nothing like what some of the laggers are experiencing. I think we are experiencing some manufacturing differences here that have yet to be documented or made certain. I suspect this is all due to sense UI but who knows for certain. Is it possible to have the G1 Hero rom installed on a stock hero? Perhaps the Hero rom that is mentioned the in the hero dev forum would help? In any event, we should really start compiling specifics in a single thread as nobody likes buyers remorse
Not geographical. Its about the way you use your phone.
Sawkes said:
Not geographical. Its about the way you use your phone.
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Fine. But it shouldn't be. If the phone is "just suppose to work" then there apparently still needs to be some optimization to account for the apparent excesses of others. I'm SURE it's JUST about what these people are doing...come on man, there has to be something else going on even if it is simply due to sense UI needing some optimization tweaks. You can't just toss away the experiences of many different folks (reviewers included) with the implication that the phone is not at all at fault for the negative reports.
I agree, I think there are variables we aren't considering. I think it comes down to the use of widgets and the amount of screens you have running, though I'm not totally sure.
I personally have not experienced any lag. I have a white sim free Hero, I use 3 screens, one with wifi, bluetooth, mobile data and gps widgets, a weather widget and a few icons. Another page has all icons, and the third has the bookmarks widget. I used to have the contacts widget on the second page and noticed no lag when using that either.
Once I tried to start up as many apps as I could to see if I experienced the lagginess people were talking about.... with no result. Still very slick.
What I don't have is a clock widget. I personally think it's useless when you have the time in the taskbar. I don't use a twitter widget either, but Peep seems to start itself sometimes.
That leads me to something else, I have apps which start themselves up spontaneously. Peep, Glympse, calendar for example.... they all show up in the task list (Taskiller) when I haven't used them. I've switched off any auto updates/ stay logged out etc. So that's a bit weird. That's part of the reason I'll use Taskiller maybe 4 or 5 times a day to kill everything running.
All in all I'm very happy and impressed with the useability of this device.
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I agree, I think there are variables we aren't considering. I think it comes down to the use of widgets and the amount of screens you have running, though I'm not totally sure.
I personally have not experienced any lag. I have a white sim free Hero, I use 3 screens, one with wifi, bluetooth, mobile data and gps widgets, a weather widget and a few icons. Another page has all icons, and the third has the bookmarks widget. I used to have the contacts widget on the second page and noticed no lag when using that either.
Once I tried to start up as many apps as I could to see if I experienced the lagginess people were talking about.... with no result. Still very slick.
What I don't have is a clock widget. I personally think it's useless when you have the time in the taskbar. I don't use a twitter widget either, but Peep seems to start itself sometimes.
That leads me to something else, I have apps which start themselves up spontaneously. Peep, Glympse, calendar for example.... they all show up in the task list (Taskiller) when I haven't used them. I've switched off any auto updates/ stay logged out etc. So that's a bit weird. That's part of the reason I'll use Taskiller maybe 4 or 5 times a day to kill everything running.
All in all I'm very happy and impressed with the useability of this device.
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Makes no damn sense to me and it's posts like this that make me think it isn't the software afterall....geez. I guess I'll just have to order one some time soon and cross my fingers that it really isn't hardware related.
My application launcher force closes on a fairly regular basis these days. This is a non-rooted phone and see my earlier post for a list of about 90% of the apps I have installed. Afaik I don't have anything out of the ordinary.
Basically the launcher seems to crash more often when I'm opening a folder or trying to move a widget. The thing is, once it restarts, I can then do that action with no issues, and often can't reproduce the problem for quite a few minutes. It feels like it's a memory-leak or something. I tried removing some of my folders and seeing if just having less shortcuts loaded would help, and the results seem inconclusive. I still get crashes, but maybe not quite as often. I also tried going through each of my three toggle widgets to make sure they weren't the cause.
I'm sure other people have run into this on Android, but I haven't seen a lot of screaming about it on this forum, so is it just something people have learned to work around? Is there an established way to figure out what's causing it? I apologize is this is a really common issue, but this is my first android phone and I'm starting to wonder if I'm alone in this.
(I'm using the following widgets: touchdown email, touchdown calendar, RTM, Pandora, Beyondpod, google weather/news, 2 folders with about 5 shortcuts each, probably about 5-6 spaces open across all home screens)
I've had this issue as well. I can reproduce it, but the circumstances under which it happens would rarely come up. I move widgets and shortcuts around, after 20-30 moves, I'll get a crash when pressing on something to move it. Leads me to think its just getting overloaded.
On the other hand, when I first got my N1, something went wrong with it, force closes would happen every 10-60 second for some reason. Regardless, using Home++, I rarely get any issues.
Its a system bug. Discussed in a few threads.
+1 for Home++.
Its a good idea to remove all your widgets from Launcher, coz it still runs under Home++ and starts all the widgets even if they are not active on home++.
Hi there, on my second vibrant. I'm having some issues with this one and I need help determining if they are hardware related.
I'm running 3 homescreens with:
Beautiful widgets
Pure messenger widget
Switch pro
Pandora
I'm also running launcher pro.
I have some major lag problems when launching apps. It takes a minute or so to open most apps, plus I get a lot of black screens. I've factory reset the phone twice and the issues go away for a while on stock settings but the phone starts to lag a bit as I load apps.
Any ideas?
I might just return it....even though the phone runs ok on stock settings, might have a hard time returning it.
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most likely software.. and related to one of the apps you have dl'd. as you said in your post, the phone works fine stock and doesnt start to act up until you load apps.
i would suggest you just install your apps one by one and have a small testing phase between each one. then when it starts lagging you will know what app to avoid.
Wait did this happen on both phones. Even if not, still sounds like something you've done to the phone. I would root and run autostarts to prevent certain items from opening. It's all in the sticky if you want to try.
Its both, look into the lag fix. Launcherpro + all widgets are running off the internal sd along with the appdata (thats moved in the lag fix) and with the poor performing I/O of the internal sd, it lags. The stock launcher + samsung apps is built into the system dir (internal nand) so doesn't lag as bad.
No, I returned the first phone because the homekey wasn't working.
Once the apps do manage to load, I notice that there isn't anything I can do to slow the phone down. Certainly seems more and more like a software bug...Maybe Launcher Pro isn't playing nice (even though I've reinstalled it a few times, and after factory reset). That or the Pure Messenger widget (scrollable) is what's screwing everything up. It worked fine on my Mytouch 3gs though...We'll see.
I'll add apps one by one until I find the culprit.
OK, thus far installed ADW instead of Launcher Pro...
Everything seems to work really well thus far. ADW seems to handle scrollable pure messenger widget much better than Launcher Pro. I think that was the source of my incredible lag.
Still testing, but has anyone else had issues with the scrollable pure messenger widget and Launcher Pro?
Does anyone know if widgets have any major impact on overall phone performance? I know they must take up some performance but does anyone notice any difference when they disable particular widgets or perhaps other objects? Just curious what everyone's take on this is. Any problem widgets for people would be greatly appreciated for future knowledge.
I can notice that several widgets on multiple homescreens can often hurt performance (obviously) but I think it really depends on what other programs you're running in the background. If you have a few widgets updating constantly, but not many other background processes, you'll be fine. If you have lots of background processes AND widgets, it may be noticeable.
If you get a lot of lag just moving homescreens, and have very low free RAM, then it might be a good idea to cut down on the widgets to help yourself out.
I personally only use one 4x2 twitter widget and a 4x1 music widget. I run a pretty tight ship and don't notice any slowdowns. I regularly have 100mb+ of free RAM though.
i usually have like 150 to 200 MB free lol guess I run a very tight ship, with maybe 2 or 3 exceptions I basically have it set so nothing runs without my telling it too. I have the news and weather widget, extended controls widget, doggcatcher widget, and the led flashlight widget, and like 2 or 3 more small 1 by1 widgets running on multiple home-screens. I was just wondering if it would make a difference lol. Not sure if it was me but when I re-ROM my phone it always seems snappier, but then I restore my apps and widgets, so not sure if it's the apps or the widgets weighing it down. Still pretty snappy overall though
I don't think they cause a major impact on performance, but definitely think they are taking up memory. I use GoLauncher's Task manager widget to keep an eye on what pops up, just about all the widgets I've got on the screens pops up on the task list. (CM7's Strobe/light, a2sd, fancy widget pro, etc)
However, more often I've noticed running processes from non-widgets I don't even use or haven't used in awhile, like yahoo messenger and one game. These take up anywhere from 3-15mb of memory.
I'd like to think that there is an association between consistent free memory and battery drain, but I don't really know of a way to log or test this.
hmm true, i noticed that I tend to have more problems with too little ram, rather than processor performance...
I've only got 2 widgets that actually take any battery to use. One is 3g Watdh Dog and another is Battery Monitor Widget. That's about it really, hardly uses any power at all. None at all actually haha.. Oh and a wifi on/off widget I find really useful too.
Widgets Freeze
Hi. I have noticed that widgets do not work properly on my brand new Moto X Play. You can add a widget, but it appears frozen and the content does not update or allow interaction. If you modify the widget size, it will stretch the image of the widget, again failing to update the widget. Depending on the widget, it will bring you to the app of you tap on it, but sometimes even that does not work. Deleting and replacing widgets makes no difference. Using Nova launcher appears to fix the issue, although I have not tested this for a period as long as an hour yet.
This seems to be a widespread issue across many phones, including Samsung and Nexus phones, thus is appears to be an Android issue more than a specific Moto issue or a hardware issue. It is possible it is a Google Now Launcher issue specifically.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue or know of a fix? I have yet to find one other than rebooting every hour or so (or possibly switching launchers). The leading theory is that the widget process is being kicked out of memory. The scary thing is that this bug has been reported as far back as Android 4.3, although I never experienced it on my SGS3 with CM11.
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Have not had any widget issues but have been using Nova launcher. All seem to work fine for me
Nova Launcher continues to solve the problem for me as well.
It is pretty disappointing that a major feature of stock Android fails to work out-of-the-box. I like Nova Launcher, so that is fine, but I shouldn't need 3rd party launchers to recover stock functionality. Hopefully my case is exception and not the rule.
Are you moving the apps to your SD card?