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i am abit of a noob, what can i use wi-fi for?
basically its wireless LAN, wireless local area network, ie be able to connect to a computer network wirelessly to surf the internet, get emails, file transfer ans in some cases perform synchronisations.... beats the wired connections but can be a pain at times connecting to some wireless routers (access points) and even more of a pain to fix when there is a fault
At present there are 2 standards allowing fast ans faster transfer of data, b and g respectively. Some devices like the vario only supports the b (slower and older standard) whilst the other variants support both standards, as such yuo may have seen posts where people have deliberately changed ROMS (the software that operates the device) just to be able to connect to a 'g' network
Hope that helps
jim
when i have wi-fi switch on do i pay anything?
sometimes you have to pay for it, but at most of the places its free. And it is not a GSM based service
thanks
It's free at home; I never saw the need on a phone till got a wi-fi connector. Now I listen to MP3s surf the net everything (super-fast and free). Definately worth it
sorry for the newb questions but couldn't find an answer searching and figured someone who knows would be able to give an answer easily
the question is, when in the office, sitting near my laptop (dell lat 620 w wifi) I connect my phone to the wifi network 'wfield1' and the display on the laptop turns green, and the phone shows the little antenna signifying wifi connectivity. ok- now does this mean
a) that all data sent/rec'd will not appear on cingulars bill?
b) will my works firewall (vpn) infringe upon my browsing (ie if I hit a blocked site will it say blocked on my phone?)
I originally thought it would but I turned wifi on and walked away from my laptop and realized that the wifi connection stayed on throughout the building so therefore it has nothing to do with my laptops connection to our vpn server then right?
if so, c) would I be able to use the phones wifi connection and then usb tether the phone to the laptop to browse on the laptop off the firewall and off cingulars rate charges? I have unlim anyway but keeping usage down seems worth the small step it takes to tether
hopefully I am at least a little accurate in my guesses and not way off wack. if anyone could drop some knowledge on me id appreciate it
Your phone's connection to WIFI has nothing to do with your laptop. It should connect to your WIFI router in your office. Your phone should display a different symbol on the top line of the LCD, rather than your regular "antenna" symbol.
You need to check the above before you can confirm if you are actually connected to your WIFI router.
When you are on WIFI, it is subjected to the same firewall regulations as your laptop
yes it changes from the normal "phone" antenna to the wifi icon, i do know that much.
however i'm still unsure of whether or not it is using routered data vs cingular data. i think it is using the wifi data because as i said it is showing the wifi symbol and not the E or G that shows up when connected to cingulars service
and i think i mispoke, i dont actually use the wifi on the laptop to connect to the internet. i need to dial up with a verizon card, and it connects that way, and also launches a VPN which i think is what regulates the internet usage.
i am less worried about the routers firewall than i am my (proxy?) servers abilty to record sights that i visit, ie the forums/ebay. if i visit those on wifi and my server could see that (not worried about the wifi router seeing it since i am in different offices a lot), i will just stick with using GPRS/EDGE. confusing? sorry
If it was using Cingular data, you would get a message that your phone is 'Connecting to Cingular GPRS' ..in which case you would be billed, you don't get billed for using wifi because you are NOT using cingulars network to connect to the internet, you are using your own.
after checking it again, it seems that i cannot get to the iinternet with the wifi alone. i turned off the phone and had wifi enabled and could not connet to the internet.
so normally, if it wasn't a work firewalled network, wifi will let you get to the internet without being charged via cingular. got it, thanks all
hey i was going to do wifi connection to my work laptop too till i decided its pointless cause im sitting right in front of the thing and if i actually walked away from it its going to be a decent distance and the wifi wouldnt connect anyway.
besides theres not a whole lot you can do with the connection other than read a web page or browse a network folder.
Ever wanted to have a fast internet connection that will let you surf the web, play online games (Like World Of Warcraft), without being limited by a Ethernet cable, or wifi range? Well, read on...
What you'll need:
- Sprint With Power Vision Access (15.00 a month)
- A Windows Mobile phone
- A laptop
- A mini-usb to usb connector
First, boot your phone up, and disconnect all usb cables from the phone. Connect to the internet Via IE, so a live webpage is opened. Click Start > Programs > Internet Sharing. Remember that the USB cable is not connected to the phone at this time. Once in internet sharing, make sure to choose "Sprint PCS" from the Network Connection option. Click "Connect". Your status should read "Connected" or "Check USB connection". At this point, you can connect the USB, and windows will automatically load the drivers, and connect. Once your phone reads "Connected", you can open up your favorite browser, or anything else that may require an internet connection, and go at it. You've just skipped out on the $39 monthly tethering charge.
I've actually done this with my Mogul, and got speeds between 1100-1300kb/s down and about 300kb/s up.
Good Luck!
You know they can tell if you tether still... so if you use a lot of data they could catch you
Where the hell that country support this broadband ???
ermenzegna said:
Where the hell that country support this broadband ???
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I swear, I have no idea what you said...
Corrykid said:
I swear, I have no idea what you said...
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which country support this broadband ?
i'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo jealous bcoz i think it's impossible at my country
It should be supported by sprint, anywhere.
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It should be supported by sprint, anywhere.
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But he's in Indonesia.
Does Indonesia have Sprint?
Corrykid said:
Ever wanted to have a fast internet connection that will let you surf the web, play online games (Like World Of Warcraft), without being limited by a Ethernet cable, or wifi range? Well, read on...
What you'll need:
- Sprint With Power Vision Access (15.00 a month)
- A Windows Mobile phone
- A laptop
- A mini-usb to usb connector
First, boot your phone up, and disconnect all usb cables from the phone. Connect to the internet Via IE, so a live webpage is opened. Click Start > Programs > Internet Sharing. Remember that the USB cable is not connected to the phone at this time. Once in internet sharing, make sure to choose "Sprint PCS" from the Network Connection option. Click "Connect". Your status should read "Connected" or "Check USB connection". At this point, you can connect the USB, and windows will automatically load the drivers, and connect. Once your phone reads "Connected", you can open up your favorite browser, or anything else that may require an internet connection, and go at it. You've just skipped out on the $39 monthly tethering charge.
I've actually done this with my Mogul, and got speeds between 1100-1300kb/s down and about 300kb/s up.
Good Luck!
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This is a feature built in WM, however, don't get it confused. If you're running the standard Sprint ROM, they can detect you tethering, so don't be surprised one day to get a large bill.
But, agreed this is a easy way to connect, but you may want to look at some custom roms, or research other options if you need to use this.
Oh, btw those speeds must be a typo. I'm using Sprint and currently connected using Internet Sharing and while I might occasionally get 1MB download speeds, I average around 400Kbps - 800 Kbps in Hampton Roads, VA area
Where are you located?
Dude, this is a feature of the phone. Like, it's in the manual. We know.
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Does Indonesia have Sprint?
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I wish we have Sprint.
There are some unlimited broadband offer but all sucks (even we can't get real 3G / HSDPA speed right here)
i'm waiting for my touch and just joined sprint... how many months have you been tethering?
I've been tethering for about a year and a half now.
I live in the seattle area, and i've gotten 2.4mb/s once.
wait is this thread dated 2006 and for some reason just showing as new???????
HAVE u TrieD
in 2006 when Vodafone was lanuched in S.A they had a free Unlimited Internet However it only worked through proxy and was only limited to the phone when tryin to tether it brought a blank page. So When you change UA 0n IE or FireFox to Like Nokia6680/2.0 It w0rkeD so change maybe changing UA of the browser SPrinT May n0t b able to detect if ur tethering you could also try www.your-freedom.net it worked when vodafone live was ristricted to Phone Browser UA
Not restricted anymore, by the way.
...I hit 3mb/s today.
what a lucky guy. 3mb wow!
Anyway possible to use the Titan as a dialup modem either through bluetooth or the wire connected to the PC? What I mean is to be able to use it to dial into a dialup provider with a user ID/pw..
If so, how?
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Anyway possible to use the Titan as a dialup modem either through bluetooth or the wire connected to the PC? What I mean is to be able to use it to dial into a dialup provider with a user ID/pw..
If so, how?
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I'm assuming you want to do this instead of using it's internet sharing capabilities?
Thats what I'm confused about. My Internet Sharing says "USB" or "Bluetooth". Do you just chose the way you want to connect to the PC and somehow dialup from there?
Thats what I'm confused about (as per my other thread)
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Thats what I'm confused about. My Internet Sharing says "USB" or "Bluetooth". Do you just chose the way you want to connect to the PC and somehow dialup from there?
Thats what I'm confused about (as per my other thread)
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It's technically not Dial-Up connection. Your cell uses EVDO for internet. If you have a data package on your bill... then you are good to go. You then have a choice of connecting your cell to the PC via the USB cable... or via a Bluetooth connection.
Edit: Also... do some reading on a program called WMWifiRouter. It allows you to use your phone as a Wireless (Ethernet) router.
Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
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Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
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I don't know if you can use it as a "Dial Up" for things such as AOL. But, since you have an unlimited Data plan... just use it's EVDO connection. USB cable to it... and turn on ICS.
I personally haven't tried WMWifiRouter. I'm on DCD 3.2.5
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Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
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yea you can connect to a dialup server. to my knowledge you can, you just need to have a data plan. you need to setup the dialup connection on your titan. go to settings -> connections -> connections. in here you tap 'add a new modem connection' and then enter in the connection data. you can then later get to the connection by taping on the 'manage existing connections' link. in there if you bring up the context menu to tell your titan to dial the connection. i think theres a way to get to use the dialup connection as your default connection but i dont remember where that setting is
in all honesty youll be better off using EVDO, its faster than dialup (even 1x is faster)
but what billyburly said should work if you need to dial into a VPN or something
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in all honesty youll be better off using EVDO, its faster than dialup (even 1x is faster)
but what billyburly said should work if you need to dial into a VPN or something
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I figured there may be a way... since it is a mini PC... but don't see the point if you just want internet and have the data plan. LOL
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yea you can connect to a dialup server. to my knowledge you can, you just need to have a data plan. you need to setup the dialup connection on your titan. go to settings -> connections -> connections. in here you tap 'add a new modem connection' and then enter in the connection data. you can then later get to the connection by taping on the 'manage existing connections' link. in there if you bring up the context menu to tell your titan to dial the connection. i think theres a way to get to use the dialup connection as your default connection but i dont remember where that setting is
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When a few of us tried this before, it didn't work. I don't believe there is any dialup modem support in the phone. But the only reason to even try is to get around data fees, and if you have a data package, there wouldn't be many reasons to even want to do this.
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When a few of us tried this before, it didn't work. I don't believe there is any dialup modem support in the phone. But the only reason to even try is to get around data fees, and if you have a data package, there wouldn't be many reasons to even want to do this.
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well, i wasnt sure if it worked. i knew there was a way to tell the phone to dial different numbers for data. i couldnt really verify that it worked. on verizon when you try this and do not have a data plan (like me) they just capture your call and redirect it to evdo data. so i knew you could change the number, but if you didnt have a data plan verizon hijacked it. when i talked to different verizon techs i was told that id need a data plan for it to work. so i assumed that since he had a data plan it would work.
guess this just doesnt work accross the board
Well my data package is through Telus and Telus doesn't want people tethering, which is why I want a work around. You're allowed browsing but not tethering.
From everything I have read, this is not a "standard analog" modem, it's a special digital modem (think of it as a DSL modem), it can connect to a connection if it uses the same kind of hardware on the far end as what #777 uses. So figure out what kind of dialup server they use, and you could build your own dialup connection, however, since you are dialing a different number, while not using data, it does use minutes. Which in most cases cost more than data does.
If you flash your phone, I believe it removes any tools they use to tell if you are tethering, so unless they monitor every connection/website you visit, they would be hard pressed to prove you didn't visit the site on your phone.
And even if they do monitor, again, they would have a hard time proving you didn't do it from the phone. Try to only use apps like email and web (never ever ever use a torrent/p2p app from a tethered PC, or you will definitely get nailed by them.) The reason being is that they will see thousands of connections to their network, and also to download a 1mb file, you will probably end up uploading 3-5 mbs, which will also stand out on your data usage.
Before taking my word as gospel, ask around, but I believe I have read that DCD removed these locks/tracking tools from his image. So therefore tethering is a little safer than before.
BTC
The latest WMwifiRouter works just fine with DCD's roms.
Hi,
I live in Australia. I bought a SGS from UK. It has nothing changed in firmware its the same as it comes from the box. (just a few games and apps installed from the android market).
My problem is when I connect the SGS to my laptop through the USB cable and I chose "PC INTERNET" I get a connection but i get a lot of drop outs, I would say being honestly every 5 minutes my connection drops. I live right in the city and my phone has good reception so its not the reception.
I haven't tried teethering (i dont wanna teether coz mobile plans says, NO teethering).
What can I do to fix the drop out connection problem.
if you are using your internet via the LAPTOP over the USB cable, then you need to figure out WHY your LAPTOP is not connecting properly to the Internet.
it takes about 1 min to connect and when it connects i choose HOME connetion. than it works good for 5 mins and it drops out and reconnects itself.
Correct me if I've read your post incorrectly but isn't what you're doing tethering?
From Wikipedia: "Tethering is the use of a mobile device such as a mobile phone to supply Internet access for another device which is otherwise unconnected, using the mobile device as a modem. This can be done through Bluetooth wireless technology, Portable Wi-Fi hotspots, or cables (such as USB)."
well yes and no...
it is teethering but carriers cant prove that.
however
if i do select teether on my phone it says something like this option will use black hole date or something (from my understanding is that it will use different data to my free date) so i choose to try the cable connect than select interent connection.
anyways the problem is still there... has anyone got any solutions or give me some ideas?
thanks
are you trying to use your phone as a modem or not?
if you are, then we can help you there are many ways to do it.
but if you are doing the opposite, using your laptop internet, for your phone to access internet (which doesn't make any sense at all) then we can't help you as it's a laptop problem.
im trying to use my phone as a modem but in a way without carriers finding out im actually using my phone to teether.
my problem is that my connection keeps droping every 5 minutes for 10-30sec.
I use my Galaxy as a modem and I had nothing but hassle when connecting using the cable. I found out its far better to go into settings then wireless settings then switch mobile AP on. Your phone sends the connection over wifi to the pc and gives me no hassle at all.
I reckon the only way your service provider would know is by looking at how much data you use so just be careful and you should be fine. Or find out what your monthly limit is and put a data counter on the phone, I use Netcounter, its free and simple but gives the info you need like daily, weekly and monthly usage
yup, the wireless method is by far the easiest one, and best of all it is build in!
as for your cell phone provider finding out, regardless of what you do, they don't care, they only check how much data you used up, and charge you that amount
well im on 1gb per month. Plenty of data there.
I tried another method today: turn bluetooth on and connect through bluetooth and that seem to works perfectly. I was online for 3 hours without dropping once.
Now I`m wondering why was it dropping with the cable connected? And not even once through bluetooth!
I understand your Problem, but at time i reading your last Post i have an question.
I understand your Posts that you dont use Wireless thether becouse your Carrier dont Allow Laptops to Acces Wireless conections right?
But it makes no difference if you use the cable or a wireless conection to thether your Internet. If you surf under the radar you dont getting into troubles. And there is no blackhole Data when you tether wireless. Its a gprs, edeg, 3g or umts Connection and your Phone manage this automaticly. So now comes my question. Why you dont use the build in wireless tether function which is the fastest and easiest way to connect. You dont need the phone directly near the laptop, you can give it to the point of best data connection, okay and a powerstrip for the akku. But its much faster then the Bluetooth connection, becouse of wlan.
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"And there is no blackhole Data when you teether wireless"
From now on I will use the AP to connect. I thought the carriers (OPTUS) might find out. But since they can't find out than this is the best option. Thanks for confirming they cant find out weather I connected my laptop or just used the date from my phone.
This remind my at the old days where you share your internet connection thru a soho rooter or just another pc with 2 network cards built in. In these early days the Provider says its forbidden to use the connection for more pcs than one. But in fact they never could meassure this and no one ever gets an letter from them or an contract decline/service interuption. The truth is, that there was a kind of law process against them and now the isp's is forbidden to limit the usage of your internet connection to only one device. So that means not that you get unlimited numbers of ip adresses, but you can NAT as much devices you want. Now you get from every ISP a Preconfigured router if you like.
And the same will hapen over a pariod of time to the wireless providers as well. Its your connection so you can use them the way u like it. Its already happend here, you can buy umts router for your home.
Where i live there is no question like this. Just do it. But maybe its becouse of our mentalogiy. If somone says no the typical austrian will do it anyway and gives no dime to what others say. If no one forbid you something then its allready allowed to do. ;-)
Greetings to Australia (the country with the kangaroos) like we here in Austria say. lol
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Thanks for that info. That takes my concerns/stress away. Just didn't wanna receive a thousand dollar bill that's all I cared