I noticed recently that my signal has been mostly UMTS with rare, occasional connection to HSDPA. If I were running the stock, I would never have noticed it since there's no "3G" symbol and I'm still getting in the range of 1.5-5Mbps.
Is anyone else is experiencing this "tiered throttling" where they cut some speed but not all?
I had the same thing on my N1 befor it got stolen (waiting on my new desire z now). It idles on UMTS to save battery, then switches to HSPA when it's actually transferring. It shouldn't affect actual internet performance. At least, that's how it was explained in the N1 forum.
So just to see if there was something weird with my install, I downgraded CWM Recovery and reinstalled CM6.1.1, which didn't do anything. Once I restored to CM7, I started getting a consistent HSDPA signal ....
Chalk it up to quirkiness?
ill_dawg is correct, it will stay at UTMS when idle and step up to HSDPA when active. This saves the battery.
If your phone shows HSPDA constantly, its probably had the 3G icon removed.
Craig
regalatre said:
So just to see if there was something weird with my install, I downgraded CWM Recovery and reinstalled CM6.1.1, which didn't do anything. Once I restored to CM7, I started getting a consistent HSDPA signal ....
Chalk it up to quirkiness?
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I'm kind of confused. After flashing cyan's rom, my service keeps switching between 3g and H. This has not happened prior to me flashing the rom though. What is H? Is it a fixable problem?
Could be wrong, but it's probably H for HSDPA
Oooh its actually a bonus for me at least, since before, my Nexus showed 3G whther it was connected to the faster HSDPA or to 3G (Unlike my Hero, which showed H or 3G)
will have to give CM Rom a go once my Nexus arrives back from HTC
Dayz
Cyanogen's ROM enabled the notification if you are on HSPA network. I beleive you will get 3G if your network changes to UMTS (depends on your location). The stock ROM shows 3G even if you are on the HSPA network.
Ohhhh alright. I understand then. It still bugs me though lol
Yes i can verify this is the case, reason why i jumped ship to cynogens rom
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I'm kind of confused. After flashing cyan's rom, my service keeps switching between 3g and H. This has not happened prior to me flashing the rom though. What is H? Is it a fixable problem?
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since by default the phone is after the fastest avail option, it tries to get to 3G. if and when you are in the area with uncertain 3G coverage, it could scan and switch to 3G, then to HSDPA (hence - H) or even EDGE (E)
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
Router said:
since by default the phone is after the fastest avail option, it tries to get to 3G. if and when you are in the area with uncertain 3G coverage, it could scan and switch to 3G, then to HSDPA (hence - H) or even EDGE (E)
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
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Actually, HSDPA is faster than "3G" (which I'm assuming is actually UMTS), so your phone will use HSDPA whenever it can, then downgrade to 3G if HSDPA isn't available, then EDGE, then GPRS. HSDPA is actually considered "3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G" according to its Wikipedia entry.
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No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
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He did do something. Someone already asked him on Twitter and he answered here.
This reminds me of my times with Windows Mobile where you'd change a registry setting to make the indicator show you had an EDGE connection instead of always showing G (for GPRS)
Quite nice, I was missing this on Nexus
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No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
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did you even read what I wrote? The stock ROM has the H icon but for some reason its disabled so that only the 3G icon shows up if you have HSPA. Cyanogen simply enabled the H icon to be usable.
I wonder why though, they would disable it...
I cant think of any solid reasons, and if it is in-fact better then "3G", You would think they would want people to know that they have a faster connection present..
but anyways, thanks cyanogen
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I wonder why though, they would disable it...
I cant think of any solid reasons, and if it is in-fact better then "3G", You would think they would want people to know that they have a faster connection present..
but anyways, thanks cyanogen
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Given the confusion in this thread alone, which is presumably made up of people who know more about their phones than the general public, I think it's reasonably obvious why it's disabled. The phone companies have spent lots of money and time marketing "3G" to the public - most people will know what you're talking about if you say 3G, almost none of them will know what HSDPA is, and I doubt the cell phone company wants to spend the time to explain that it's actually better than standard 3G to every customer. It's just that much easier to make it say "3G" and be done with it.
ISTR that my Hero and Touch Diamond2 before that, and Touch Cruise before that, all showed a 3G symbol on hsdpa until you were actually downloading something - then it changed to show a H before returning to a 3G when stopped downloading.
I think!
Router said:
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
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@ melterx12
My Post was regarding this, it can't be that has H in display with stock ROM
So, this 'H' HSDPA signal display should be a fix in the OTA update?
Is there a possibility that someone answer here and explain how to enable H icon showing?
I think it's in framework-res.apk but don't know where exactly...
I don't want to install a cyanogenmod rom or others to have it. Who have already done it, could share that information with us...this is a forum..
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I want to enable the H icon on the stock ROM.
Rooted phone, custom recovery, locked bootloader.
Is this possible?
suffix642 said:
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I want to enable the H icon on the stock ROM.
Rooted phone, custom recovery, locked bootloader.
Is this possible?
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I'm not able to decompile framework-res.apk to source...i've done some tries but with apktool that's not possible...
It is not sufficient open it with winrar or similar because config.xml is in the core....
I was running CM 5.0.6 on my N1 for several weeks along with the 4.04.00.03_2 Radio to try to solve some of the preference for EDGE that my TMO N1 had. The problem that I ran into was that I went from some HSPA to none in areas that I know are covered by HSPA. I would constantly use only UMTS! I just flashed Kang-O-Rama 0.8 which requires the FroYo radio and presto, either the base CM 5.0.8, Kang-O-Rama 0.8, or more likely the 4.06.00.12_7 Radio fixed my problem. In fact, I am now getting 2000-3000 kbps down and my phone seems to prefer 3g down to 1 bar where as before it would stick on EDGE until I forced it to WCDMA Only.
Just thought I'd post some good news about the new radio(possibly the radio that is).
Rick
I've never gotten more than 1mb down how can I tell if the phone is going into HSPA I'm running stock froyo and it only shows 3g before when I had CM it showed an H for HSPA
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I've never gotten more than 1mb down how can I tell if the phone is going into HSPA I'm running stock froyo and it only shows 3g before when I had CM it showed an H for HSPA
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Yeah, that's a bummer with the stock ROMs. Here's what I do to make sure that a relatively long data sesion is opened. Start a streaming app like Pandora or download a large email (i.e. with a 3meg picture) and then goto Settings -> About Phone -> Status and scroll down to Mobile network type. This should show either UMTS(if you are in 3g but no active data connection) or hopefully HSDPA if you ahve an active data connection.
There are other ways to tell, but this is what I do.
Rick
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Yeah, that's a bummer with the stock ROMs. Here's what I do to make sure that a relatively long data sesion is opened. Start a streaming app like Pandora or download a large email (i.e. with a 3meg picture) and then goto Settings -> About Phone -> Status and scroll down to Mobile network type. This should show either UMTS(if you are in 3g but no active data connection) or hopefully HSDPA if you ahve an active data connection.
There are other ways to tell, but this is what I do.
Rick
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It wasn't really stock it was pauls version, now I'm running kangs .9 and no change
Actually I ran speed test and it did switch rio HSDPA but only 430kbps
I got it last night with the FRF85B, and my N1 seem to be staying in 3G more consistently today
After I went to FRF83 my reception went from only edge in my house to full bars of 3G. Reception has improved more than I could have hoped.
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I got it last night with the FRF85B, and my N1 seem to be staying in 3G more consistently today
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After I went to FRF83 my reception went from only edge in my house to full bars of 3G. Reception has improved more than I could have hoped.
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You guys want to tell us what city & carrier?
Hi, I have a problem that I suspect is an isolated situation, nevertheless, it has been bugging me for over a month now. Hopefully the community will have some insight.
I will try to report the problem in it's entirety:
I do have a shortcut on my desktop to Phone Info (*#*#4636#*#*). From here, the thing I note of interest is the CID, which I guess is the tower ID that my phone is currently connected to. Also of note here are the ASUs, which I'm not quite sure what they are, but they seem to correlate with the number of bars being reported (ie more asu = more bars).
I also use Hello IM (AIM app from the market) heavily, and I have "Show notification icon" enabled, so it works fairly well as a visual indicator of connectivity, or lack thereof.
Ever since I upgraded from Super D to an Eclair rom, I've had problems with 3G handoffs on Tmo. Basically, whenever my phone switches from Edge to 3G, or one 3G tower to another 3G tower (different CID in Phone Info), the connection times out. I see the infamous "up arrow but no down arrow" activity on the 3G icon in the notification bar. This happened just about everywhere I went.
About a month ago, I decided to upgrade the phone radio, from 2.22.19.26I to 2.22.23.02. For one reason or another, this completely solved my problem. I had no problems with handoffs, 3G just started working again.
A couple weeks ago, I downloaded CM6 and tried out Froyo. The first thing I notice is the weak signal on my radio. Before flashing the rom, I did a nandroid backup, and I know I had 3 bars of 3G signal where I set the phone down. After the flash, my phone had no 3G signal, and for some reason refuses to switch to edge; so my signal indicator is sitting there with an X over it. After some time, it finally does pick up a 3G signal--this is where it begins to get weird...
My 3G works right now, for the most part. There seems to be 2 very specific locations where it does not work. As mentioned earlier, I am able to check CID's through the Phone Info menu. I notice 2 CIDs where my 3G connection times out. By time out, I mean an apparent loss of data (ping doesn't work in Phone Info). This happens every time I am connected to these 2 towers. As soon as the phone switches off to another tower, data works fine again. The strange part is, even though I am not getting data, the asu and signal bars continue to move up and down as if I have a normal signal. The phone also makes no effort to switch back to Edge, even though 3G data is completely stalled (Hello IM shows as disconnected, ping fails).
This started happening since the CM6 update, and have persisted since then. Even after I did a nandroid restore back to my previous rom (Super E 1.02), the radio problem remains. Before CM6 and after I updated my radio, I had no problem connecting to these same towers.
In a nutshell:
3G does not work when I am connected to 2 specific towers since CM6 update
Phone makes no effort to switch to other 3G towers or Edge when connected to these 2 towers
When connected to these towers, signal strength continues to go up and down as normal; usually hovers at a consistent 2 to 3 bars with the stock signal indicator (4 bars max).
Currently I have tried flashing all the Eclair roms available, as well as my old Super D rom (still using 2.22.23.02 radio). Problem remains.
Does anyone have any idea what's going on?
Hi All,
I'm getting a very weird and annoying issue regarding HSPA on Virtuous ROMs.
I found that H is not working properly in the same place where it got to work on Stock ROMs.
I'VE READ ABOUT THE FAQ ON THE ISSUE:
Q: I used to see HSPA+ (H) connectivity with the stock ROM, where Virtuous shows me 3G in the same area. Why is the data slower?
The stock T-Mobile ROM lies about data rate and displays H even if you are in a 3G-only territory. Virtuous displays H only when you actually have HSPA+ service.
HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ANSWER FOR ME. IT IS VERY WEIRD THAT HSPA NETWORK (shown as "3G+" in virtuous 1.0.0) IS TRIGGERED EVERY TIME I MAKE A PHONE CALL. However, I'm not able to start H by opening a browser, etc which triggers a data transfer.
Therefore, it should not be a network problem. Also, when I switch back to stock ROM, the HSPA is working properly.
May I ask for your kind help? Thank you in advance!
P.S. I'm using:
HBOOT: ENG S-OFF 0.84.2000
Radio: 26.06.02.27_M
ROM: Virtuous 1.0.0 with htc kernel (also tried using Std and Adv kernels but problem still exists)
i think that the 3g+ is H
cause i get H speeds when it is 3g+
Yea same problem
When I switched to Virtuous even 0.9.5, I no longer have HSDPA speeds nor HSPA+.
P.S. im running 1.0 right now
anyone plz?
No problems here - I get the 3G+ everywhere I used to get H.
Also, you mention that HSPA is working correctly when you switch back to a stock ROM - that's probably not true. The stock ROMs show an H whenever you have *any* 3G coverage (whereas pretty much all of the custom ROMs differentiate between '3G' and '3G+/H'). So when you see an 'H' on the stock ROM, you have no way of knowing whether it is 3G (like you're seeing on the custom ROMs) or if it is, indeed, HSPA+.
Menu - settings - about phone - network
HSDPA
It is working.
Pretty sure he's using new icons, in the latest roms. There's no issue, its just using a different icon to show the same thing.
It's just the icon, they really don't differentiate between the speeds.
Yea the rom is based on orange and they use 3g+ and t-mobile uses HSPA... well speed should still be the same
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To clarify, I do know about the 3g+ icon issue.
My problem is that I can only get UMTS after switch to new ROM. No 3g+ no matter how much data I transfer.
The most weird thing is that 3g+ is triggered only when im making a phone call.
Im sure its not a carrier cheating issue because i was able to get hsdpa in *#*#4636#*#* mode. After switching to virtuous i only get umts.
Thanks all who was keen to help and reply!
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To clarify, I do know about the 3g+ icon issue.
My problem is that I can only get UMTS after switch to new ROM. No 3g+ no matter how much data I transfer.
The most weird thing is that 3g+ is triggered only when im making a phone call.
Im sure its not a carrier cheating issue because i was able to get hsdpa in *#*#4636#*#* mode. After switching to virtuous i only get umts.
Thanks all who was keen to help and reply!
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I am having the same issue you are...
Im stuck on UMTS HSDPA nor HSPA will load... I did a nandroid restore and now it wont get off UMTS
EDIT: I am running 1.0.1
EDIT AGAIN: Updated to Latest Radio and everything is back Online!
UPDATE: I have noticed that I have only no 2G service. What am I doing wrong? From *#*#*4696#*#* under phone info I have enabled "WCDMA preferred". Can this be a hardware thing if I have 3G connectivity but cant connect to 2G network??
Hi everyone!
I've been having a strange problem lately - at random times and random places I suddenly have no service so i can make no calls. Then after about 10 minutes I have service again and everything seems to be just fine until the next time that happens.
This can happen at random places but also after I return from somewhere where there's not supposed to be any service (from the basement for example) it also takes very long (10-20 min) until I have service again. Also i have noticed that sometimes when I have no bars and can make no calls, I can still go online on mobile internet (not wifi).
It started after I updated Hyperdroid 2.01 to Hyperdroid 3.0. I have since then tried several times to completely wipe everything (have reinstalled WM6.5 (the problem persisted in WM6.5 also) and have wiped everything with task29.
After wiping I have reinstalled radio v 2.15.xx, MAGLDR 1.13, CWR 150MB partition and then reinstalled Hyperdroid 2.01 but i still keep getting the random service drops.
Can this be hardware-related? What else can I try?
"What else can I try?"
Your sim in another phone. Not just for 5 minutes, for a few hours.
Have you looked into your providers network status? Could be doing system upgrades.
Have you inadvertently set to use 3g only?
I didn't know that there was an option to only use 3G. But as soon as I switched to "only 2G" I lost the connection again so it might have something to do with that. How could I disable this "only 3G" (I can't find it near the "only 2G" option).
Also will try a different sim.
Thanks
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How could I disable this "only 3G"
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sorry, not sure offhand, i used to know how to do it in winmo.
So now I have tried dialing *#*#*4696#*#* to enter "phone information" and there ir reads "WCDMA preferred" so that means 2G should be enabled as well. But when I select GSM only i dont have any service and under DATA it reads "fail because Radio Not Available". I have 2.15.xx radio rom installed, also tried 2.12.
Did your tryed to flash a other kernel?
I did. But the same kernel worked for me about a week before so this cant be it right?
Can this be a hardware thing if I have 3G connectivity but cant connect to 2G network??
thats not a hardware issue, sounds like a Rom problem. Test out the radios, and see which one gives you the best signal
I have tried different radios (2.08, 2.10, 2.15) different android roms (Hyperdroid 1.04, 2.01, 3.0, 5.30, MIUI gingerbread) and different WM6,5 roms. I have tried switching SIM cards. I have tried switching off ond on data connection. Have tried switching 2G/3G to 3G only and to 2G only. Nothing helps. I still get no service when I am in a 2G only service area.
Please help. Anybody?
finally, somebody with a same problem as me... i have tried to fix it for 6 month, and still can't get any 3g signal, i have tried task 29, wm 6.5, different android nand and sd rom.
but the 3g signal showed in wp7 rom, have you tried wp7?
I have not. Maybe I will. But my problem is that I don't have 2G signal - I do have good 3G signal though.
Tried to install Windows phone 7. No luck. Still no 2G signal. What does anybody think of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180?
isandkrl said:
Tried to install Windows phone 7. No luck. Still no 2G signal. What does anybody think of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180?
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I have not. Maybe I will. But my problem is that I don't have 2G signal - I do have good 3G signal though.
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I'm the opposite, but did you able to browse mobile internet with the no signal?? If you can, and get 2g speed then it's not the hardware, as your phone still able to get 2g signal
Sometimes my phone can browse the net in 3g speed even with no signal, so i guess its a software problem??
Two or three times I have had G or E instead of H or 3G in the notification bar but although it shows me that it has service it wont connect to the internet neither can i take calls during that time. All the time that I have 3G or H connection i can take calls and I havent noticed that internet would be slow.
So I have almost given up hope. I have quite good 3G service where I live but still 3G is not that strong indoors and I have too much downtime so my next desperate step would be to open up my phone and see if I can find something wrong with the connectors.. I really dont want to do that..