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Root HTC Hero

Hello all, I read all the posts about how to root HTC Hero (Poland Era G2) but I still do not know which method is the simplest. I depend mostly to BT to work normally. Could someone give me links to the topics. Because I have already lost in this. Thanks

the simplest way is pick one of them and try it, instead of looking through all of them

lukghost said:
Hello all, I read all the posts about how to root HTC Hero (Poland Era G2) but I still do not know which method is the simplest. I depend mostly to BT to work normally. Could someone give me links to the topics. Because I have already lost in this. Thanks
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The fact you say you need bluetooth to work normally, in relation to rooting your device, suggests maybe a misconception on your part, so I'm writing this just in case that is true.
The method you use to root your phone won't determine what features it supports or how reliable it is. Once you root your phone, using any method you can find which works for you, you can install a custom recovery image (current AmonRa recommended).
When that's done you're then free to choose any custom gsm Hero ROM you like & that is what will determine the features & reliability of the device. It's also fairly easy to swap between ROMs so you can try several & very easy to revert to one you've already tried (& backed up via nandroid backup, a feature of the recovery image).
So it's okay to plunge in & try the various rooting methods, though obviously do follow the instructions carefully. I think theunlockr.com has some good video guides if you prefer video to the written word. Just google 'unlockr htc hero rooting'.
Argh, just realised the original post is two months old. Oh well. If you're reading do post back to say if you managed.

Rooting Guide For A Noob

i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks

viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.

Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight

viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.

See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.

Please post questions in the Q&A section.

Having trouble rooting T Mobile G1 after OTA Update build DMD64?

I had an incredible amount of trouble rooting my G1 after i got the OTA update. I looked for answers everywhere and there weren't many, and way too many "do a forum search" answers on forums. As if i hadn't tried searching haha.
Luckily i finally figured out how to do it.
The solution is to create the Unlockr's Goldcard. This creates an SD card that gets around the security of your current build.
If you want to skip a lot of steps (1-8) in the Unlockr's method, download the Goldcard Helper from the Market. This gives you the number you need without using adb. If you have a PC you can follow the Unlockr's guide from step 8 on and create your Goldcard.
(edit: from here downgrade to 1.5 and one click root will probably work)
I am assuming that most of you can figure out the rest, since i'm really busy right now, but i want to open a thread to point people in the right direction. If I see people having trouble i'll make a [Guide] when i get some time.
For now, Good Luck, and if you have it, try Super D. You'll feel like that G1 is like new again!
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Or you could just slap an rc29 .nbh file onto the sdcard, install that, and root as normal.

In theory...that's what everyone on forums keeps saying, but I was really frustrated because it doesn't work...at least it didn't work for me.
Were you ever able to do that successfully from the DMD64 build, or just rc30?
I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of people who were trying really hard to be helpful perhaps had rooted their phones before the last OTA update from T Mobile and therefore didn't realize there was a new problem.
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There are a couple of different nbh files for matching the particular region of your hardware. This technique most definitely DOES work, but since DREAM was available as ADP, anybody who ever HAD to was, by definition, either retarded, or bought it from someone who was retarded.

Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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jontornblom said:
Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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All that a goldcard does is it bypasses the CID check. If you do, in fact, have a tmobile branded phone with OEM firmware, then there is no benefit from a goldcard since the CID check will obviously pass since the hardware's CID matches the nbh's CID. Whatever you did differently that made the "goldcard" work had nothing to do with it being a goldcard.

Ah! You are smart! You actually just cleared up what happened with my phone and why I had so much trouble!
Here is what happened: I had just received the phone (Rogers branded) and was extremely new to Android and rooting. I attempted to root got it all done, running with cm6 etc. I overclocking it, but had made a mistake in one of my CPU speeds, freezing my phone. When I tried to reboot to recovery, I accidentally rebooted to hboot and the the t-mobile nbh was still on my SD and it installed. So I ended up with t-mobile stock 1.5. So now I had to go to work, and just left it with the uptake t-mobile Rom. In the middle of the day I got a "there is an update available" notice. I thought it was for an app (noob, I know) and let it update. That is how I got a Rogers branded phone with t-mobile 1.6 DMD64 software and why I needed the goldcard to re-flash the t-mobile cupcake!
Thanks for persisting with me and helping me figure out the mystery.
Cheers!
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Thank you sir for finding this solution. I'm in almost the exact same shoes you were in. Noob to Android/rooting. Got this G1 from a friend with 1.6 DMD64 already on there. No root methods have worked so far. Going to try the goldcard sometime today. Will confirm whether it works..

Goldcard was what worked for me! 1-Click method, however, did not work.
Used the text-instructions/downloads from theunlocker.com. I can't post links on XDA yet, so the titles of the articles are "How To Root The HTC G1/Dream" with warnings of how it's an outdated method (but still the only one that works for my DMD64). Then I used "How To Load A Custom Rom On The HTC G1/Dream."
Did not use the videos on those websites...instead used a YouTube video for guidance. Its title is "How To Root Your T-Mobile G1 with Android 1.6 Pt 1."
Successfully running Cyanogen 6 now. Compared to 1.6...Ridiculous UI improvement and a ridiculous battery life decrease.

I tried em all, and gotta say thatv though I wanted android 2.x, Super D was IMHO, without a doubt, the best ROM for the G1.
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Problems with the root!

Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!

You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.

Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.

Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks

You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.

@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.

musashiken said:
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.

Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.

pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.

I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!

[Q T-MOBILE G2] doubts on unlock

Hi everyone,
i rooted and s-off my g2 with visionary r14, the easiest way since i don't wanna mess with command prompt and adb...
when i go to HBOOT i see that is s-off, but i checked with a sim different than t-mobile and i figured out it's operator locked.
I tried to see if the menu simlock on the HBOOT was useful, but when i enter i get load mccmnc image error, is that menu helpful in some way to unlock?
what is the easiest way to unlock?
tnx

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
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sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?

Yes
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underground9 said:
sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?
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Yes SimpleMobile is made to work just fine with any T-mobile or AT&T phone even if you're not rooted or unlocked.

Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?

dhkr234 said:
Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?
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For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
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never ever use visionary, its extremely unstable and you have a chance at bricking your phone every time you use it, at first gfree may seem hard, but once you do it its pretty easy, but if you are unable to use gfree, dont even attempt at getting root access

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For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
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i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies

Yeah dude sorry for those guys. Their content is sound, but their delivery was awful. It's your phone, do whatever you want to it, however you want. Just know the risks and realize there is an inherent danger to your device no matter what method you use. Read read read.
And the VAST majority of folks here are more than happy to help, regardless of the problem. Just make sure you also search, search, search because it is very difficult to have a truly unique problem and someone has probably asked your question and someone else has probably already answered it.
Have fun bro.

underground9 said:
i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies
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There is nothing wrong with being a 'newbie'. All of us were in that position at one point or another.
The issue that this community has with newbies is that many of you have a simple disregard for forum RULES and POLICIES. Here's a start:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
A simple SEARCH and reading would have revealed that Visionary is not for unlocking the device, only for obtaining root.
As has already been stated here for you, GFREE is the method you need to follow to unlock. Search for that and read the thread.
Your Welcome.

i been searching for long the thing is that all the guides makes it confusing, and u have to believe that to who doesn't know all this methods is lost, and i thank when somebody helps.

The cyanogenmod wiki has a very nice guide to rooting and unlocking with gfree, google "htc desire z rooting", it should be the second result

Hey OP,
When i first got my G2 (Desire Z here in Canada) I spent about 3-4 hours on just research and understanding of the rooting process, adb, S-ON/S-OFF and gfree. After I figured all that out, the actual process was only about 10 minutes. It was a great learning experience and I would be more than happy to give you a simpler and more broken down procedure if you would like. Let me know via PM.
Regards.

Hi op I sorta was a noob for a day or 2 everytime I switch devices I was on the android central forums think I new everything lol nooooot I bricked my first switched service.
phone the mytouch using the visionary method not the way to got I thought why not just get the phone unlocked and get true true s-off just in case and it has been the best thing I ever thought of.
I have not used these directions it does get confusing cuz some say it worked some say it don't them some start saying where does this or that go and then you have no clue where to start lol.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary need this just to get temp root to access the data privalge you need to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand time you'll know what I had directed you to do.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
I had unlocked and rooted my g2 in 10 mins instead of bringing another brick to my friends store lol
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