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I think by now we've all see the video of the streak being taken apart. What I want to know is has anyone changed their internal storage yet? If so how much did you upgrade it to? For speculation purposes; what are some positives and negatives to doing it?
wondercoolguy said:
I think by now we've all see the video of the streak being taken apart. What I want to know is has anyone changed their internal storage yet? If so how much did you upgrade it to? For speculation purposes; what are some positives and negatives to doing it?
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I am not a developer but as far as I am concern when you root your device you can install everything on your SD card up to 32gb. I have seen on YouTube one guy from Philippines have dismantle the whole streak took out internal card and upgraded to 16gb but again seems to be fake as dell said internal SD card is limited to 2gb only. So here is my part lol
Oh I didn't hear that the video was fake. That changes the entire threat...sux
If it were possible to use a larger card, two possible benefits could be:
Use a faster SD card. Not sure what class is used by default, but you can bet a faster one is available.
Potentially, in the future, we could install a larger OS, such as Ubuntu Netbook Edition. Actually, that might fit on a 2Gb card anyway! Maybe at some point, dual-boot might be possible, with Android (for phone use) and Ubuntu (for work), but now I'm just dreaming...
this maybe of some interest to you
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...com/311538/hardware-hacking-this-puppy-input/
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this maybe of some interest to you
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...com/311538/hardware-hacking-this-puppy-input/
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Thanks for the link that thread is worth keeping an eye on,who knows how far this baby is going to be hacked.
Tru.dat that hurry up Dell and get us the Streak, *cough* Tmobile usa *cough*
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.
Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.
well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.
They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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The Verizon XOOM LTE upgrade will not be hitting before July, when it is currently scheduled. This date, as loose as it is, had the specific caveat that it is very possibly subject to further delay.
For obvious reasons, I won't name the source, but I will state that they are within Verizon, and are in a position to have accurate information.
Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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timrock said:
Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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I believe it is coming my friend.... when? Prolly not soon but if never I believe VZW and Moto will be slammed with lawsuits from us sue happy Americans.
The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.
Sadly, those of us who gave Motorola one last try (on the Xoom, after we were all burned with locked boot loaders on the Droid X and subsequent phones) have been shown, once again, to not trust Motorola.
Yeah, some of the things that come with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are limited/annoying, but Samsung is proving to be a monster of a manufacturer/designer. Thinner than iPad2? Yes please. OPTIONAL Tablet Touch Wiz UI? Doesn't bother me, it's OPTIONAL. Sure, it was probably Google's call on that one, but that's actually a good thing. Sounds like Google is headed in the right direction regarding Android skins.
Anyway, my Xoom is fine for me for now - and it was great as a first-adopter product. But NEVER again will I buy Motorola. EVER. This was the nail in the coffin. But I got my Honeycomb first, which was worth one last chance on Motorola.
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dubie76 said:
The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.
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I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.
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Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.
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Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.
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Good. I bought this thing on day one... almost 4 months ago. I have never seen anything like this before. Add me to the lawsuit please.
What's the SD card issue anyway? I'm not understanding how ref's can get it to work but a multi-million dollar corporation can't.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/4268499/petition.html
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There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY
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Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.
Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd
Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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Sorry but you are incorrect. There are several honeycomb tablets released that have working microSD card slots.
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Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd
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We've always known we were going to have to send it in...
ZanshinG1 said:
Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.
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BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?
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BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?
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When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?
this is without a doubt, the most well written easy to understand post i have seen on this forum in regards to why the SD card feature has been delayed. This explains it well for the laymen. thank you for the thought out post.
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When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?
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I think I want this.
http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk-announces-64gb-microsdxc-for-mobile-phones-20110915/#bXpulseX
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SanDisk has mentioned the 64GB SDXC cards should be available starting next month for the low low price of just $219
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Yea its a bit pricey but just imagine a 96gb tablet or even a 128gb tablet.
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It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
vamp6x6x6x said:
It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
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Uhh... I guess?
jondwillis said:
Uhh... I guess?
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lol, sorry about the bigger on the inside thing. I was thinking of an episode of Doctor Who
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
jase33 said:
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Aww, you kinda rained on my party lol, but you did probably save me as well as many other people a bit of money
If you are _VERY_ lucky a firmware update could enable or does someone know it needs new hardware?
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This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Good call! Thanks for sharing. It would've been pretty crappy to find this out the hard way.
The Xoom uses the SDHC standard and will never support SDXC. No, a firmware update will not change this fact.
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
Ya know they could have put a bay in for hdd. That would solve the problem.
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Isun said:
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
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I can buy 4 32GB cards for that price.
Yes, these cards work in Android devices after formatting them from exFat to Fat32:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
remember laptops/desktops have a lot more capacity as u say BUT (and a big but) check apps size of android vs PC/Laptops - i'd say 32GB are like 320GB on a PC - mind u i have 5 *2TB in my Gigabyte 3d Aurora tower ^___^
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
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I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
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Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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Great news!! Hopefully these trail blazers will have good luck in their coding.
rosse912003 said:
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
Mithrandir007 said:
No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
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Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
rosse912003 said:
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
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Indeed, I can understand that you'd feel cheated
Hopefully they release the 32GB soon and maybe you can replace yours with the 32GB version.
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
The foldermount app should work now on the galaxy s4! Go to his xda topic where you can get the latest version! Yay
You also have to reinstall apps if you want to update them, since the app will not be scripted to support the bind when installing.
Mykew said:
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
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I don't get a move button when I try ... do I need to do something up front?
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that s great but is there a way to exchange the whole sdcard into the extsdcard ??? not just mounting specific folders