Upgrading Internal Storage? - Streak 5 General

I think by now we've all see the video of the streak being taken apart. What I want to know is has anyone changed their internal storage yet? If so how much did you upgrade it to? For speculation purposes; what are some positives and negatives to doing it?

wondercoolguy said:
I think by now we've all see the video of the streak being taken apart. What I want to know is has anyone changed their internal storage yet? If so how much did you upgrade it to? For speculation purposes; what are some positives and negatives to doing it?
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I am not a developer but as far as I am concern when you root your device you can install everything on your SD card up to 32gb. I have seen on YouTube one guy from Philippines have dismantle the whole streak took out internal card and upgraded to 16gb but again seems to be fake as dell said internal SD card is limited to 2gb only. So here is my part lol

Oh I didn't hear that the video was fake. That changes the entire threat...sux

If it were possible to use a larger card, two possible benefits could be:
Use a faster SD card. Not sure what class is used by default, but you can bet a faster one is available.
Potentially, in the future, we could install a larger OS, such as Ubuntu Netbook Edition. Actually, that might fit on a 2Gb card anyway! Maybe at some point, dual-boot might be possible, with Android (for phone use) and Ubuntu (for work), but now I'm just dreaming...

this maybe of some interest to you
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...com/311538/hardware-hacking-this-puppy-input/

fards said:
this maybe of some interest to you
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...com/311538/hardware-hacking-this-puppy-input/
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Thanks for the link that thread is worth keeping an eye on,who knows how far this baby is going to be hacked.

Tru.dat that hurry up Dell and get us the Streak, *cough* Tmobile usa *cough*

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4gb mini sd card

Before I splash out out on this card...will it work OK in my Wizard ?
http://www.imatephonestore.com/acce...te K-Jam&accMDL=MEM_MINI4GB&sameAs=IMATE_KJAM
I am pretty sure there are NO 4 gb minisd cards on the market. There have been a few stories of skams that would make me v wary. I have been watching the market/forums for months and seen absolutely no credible reports of one in existence.
I have magnified the picture of the claimed 4gb minisd card - and to my eyes it looks duped! the 4 is not in line or same font as the 0 - what do others think?
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
From another Forum
it deals with the sda but here is some info from HOFO
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=957514&page=5
WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world 4gb minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.
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WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.
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Oh I agree with you - I am not sure there are any out yet, what I am saying is that is has been stated (presumably legitimately) that they will exist.
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meschle said:
WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.
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Oh I agree with you - I am not sure there are any out yet, what I am saying is that is has been stated (presumably legitimately) that they will exist.
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Ok friends now Yep they were meant to come out 1st or 2nd Q this year but I think manufacturers have withdrawn because of microsd cards and I reckon they are investing in these. I would like the manufacturers to prove me wrong though because many think 4 and 8 gb minisd cards are feasible.
sandisk's site and wikipedia both say 2gb is the max
I don't know if you guys checked but 4gb sd's are out. I don't understand the difference btwn sd and mini. They are supposed to be the same but just smaller.
I have not seen any 4.0 GB miniSD's. The font on the picture is definitely fake. The "4" is of different font type and size. My advice is "DON'T BUY IT". It's a scam!
OP: No, it will not work in your Wizard....
good lord...
It looks like a lot of people here really need to do a bit of research before flapping their lips about things they are not informed about.
4gb MiniSD cards do in fact exist.
However, the Wizard can not recognize it because of the size. It can only see 2 gigs of a 4 gig card... so it is pretty much useless until there is some type of firmware update that would allow them to see all 4gb of the card.
Like I said though... the phones only see them as 2gb cards because of firmware limitations.
Just a thought . . .
So, since there is a 2gb limitation, I wonder if you partitioned the card to 2 - 2gb partitions if it would address that (probably not) but seeing as I do not have one - it is a question that idly went through my mind.
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OP: No, it will not work in your Wizard....
good lord...
It looks like a lot of people here really need to do a bit of research before flapping their lips about things they are not informed about.
4gb MiniSD cards do in fact exist.
However, the Wizard can not recognize it because of the size. It can only see 2 gigs of a 4 gig card... so it is pretty much useless until there is some type of firmware update that would allow them to see all 4gb of the card.
Like I said though... the phones only see them as 2gb cards because of firmware limitations.
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Thanks gldrush98 for those images- do you own one? You will find i have done quite alot of research and i dont flap :wink: The prophet - v similar firmware can manage a 4gb sd card without a problem as can the older magician. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32265&start=25
Sometimes the card needs to be at least 2gb full for the card to be fully recognized or formatted on the device with storage tools or the like.
Best to be formatted to fat16 not fat32 - thats why its probably not working properly in the wizard. Many 2gb cards even dont work on the wizard if formated to fat32.
You can also partition your memory card - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52380&highlight=format+4gb
This is the orig post that those images came from http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=584&forum=8&post_id=4043
and it looks like the poster bought the card from the same link as the first post. So it may be legit.

Internal memory...

Why does it only show me 1.23GB available fresh out of the box?
I understand the OS itself takes up room, but I know it can't take up 2.5ishGB of it.
Do we really only have 1.5GB internal memory like the Desire Z despite the 4GB claimed on the T-Mobile and HTC websites?
Someone brought up that the space might be set aside for Gingerbread which drops later this year. Could be it.
ericc191 said:
Someone brought up that the space might be set aside for Gingerbread which drops later this year. Could be it.
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As nice as that would be, they wouldn't do that and it'd be extra trouble on HTC's part to accomplish...nothing. Even if Gingerbread was a ridiculously major update, it wouldn't account for another 2.5gb of space...
I think the truth is, we got 1.5gb instead of the claimed 4gb.
Also, I have the full system dump on my PC, and it's only weighing in at 1.7GB (This includes the ~1.3GB userdata partition).
If anyone would like to see a screenshot, give me a shout and I'll upload one.
I was thinking that they may have partitioned off a FAT32 section which you could mount to. Vibrant and the Gentouch have done that. Though from a post on tmobiles board, it didn't look like the missing amount was mounted. Total for the partitions was 2169356.
Hmmm..
What do you see when you plug in your USB, just the SDCard, or do you get a notice about an internal memory as well?
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Perhaps someone with a G2 on hand could install ConnectBot and run the command
cat /proc/partitions
and post the result here
jashsu said:
Perhaps someone with a G2 on hand could install ConnectBot and run the command
cat /proc/partitions
and post the result here
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major minor #blocks name
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lord there's so many for me to type it'd be ridic, how do I take a screen shot with the phone so I can upload it? Basically though I go from 0 to 33 in that minor category.
I wonder why I have so many partitions (I'm assuming that's what these all are)
Not cool if it doesn't have the claimed 4GB.
If it doesn't have the claimed 4GB, then maybe someone can start a class action lawsuit?
I'm not upset enough that I'd push for a lawsuit, but I do feel kind of let down I don't even think I'll use the full 1.5gb, but I expected 4gb and didn't get what I expected.
Jorsher said:
I'm not upset enough that I'd push for a lawsuit, but I do feel kind of let down I don't even think I'll use the full 1.5gb, but I expected 4gb and didn't get what I expected.
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They advertised it as 4GB, so it must have 4GB. If it doesn't then the class action lawsuit will come and you won't even have to do a thing other than reap a small reward. I feel confident that there is 4GB in there, even if it isn't user accessible.
keyl10 said:
They advertised it as 4GB, so it must have 4GB. If it doesn't then the class action lawsuit will come and you won't even have to do a thing other than reap a small reward. I feel confident that there is 4GB in there, even if it isn't user accessible.
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Yeah, I understand it would come and I'd expect it to, just saying that personally I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Honestly I don't see why they'd make it inaccessible, at least not 2.5gb of it. I'm thinking it's only 1.5gb to match the Desire Z hardware, since everything else is the same as far as hardware.
I could be wrong (I don't have a G2). On my vibrant the available space is saying 12.75GB under "Phone storage" but only 1.47 under "Application storage".
I suspect that there's a set application storage area in android up to maybe 1.5GB and then the rest is for the OS and other data (music, movies, files, etc). The Vibrant's storage is 16GB which translates to around 15.xx. Then Android is taking up 1 or so and pre-installed apps only a tiny fraction (50MB or less)...that's why I'm showing 12.75. It's the remainder of the 15-Android (1 or so GB maybe less)+App Space (1.5GB)
Yeah, maybe it's just hidden space that can be unlocked by a custom rom. If the Desire Z only has 1.5GB total, I just have a hard time seeing why they'd hide 2.5GB on the G2.
^ has anyone called HTC and asked why they might only be seeing such low memory when it was supposed to have 4gb? maybe they can give us an answer?
i agree about the not really caring on the lawsuit bit. but i'm curious to know where it is lol... we didn't buy these phones pre-order cuz it was cheap lol, so if you need the money get hit by a car. more money and easier just step in front... so suing a company like htc whom we like very much would not be cool... just my .02
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i agree about the not really caring on the lawsuit bit. but i'm curious to know where it is lol... we didn't buy these phones pre-order cuz it was cheap lol, so if you need the money get hit by a car. more money and easier just step in front... so suing a company like htc whom we like very much would not be cool... just my .02
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errr - as "uncool" as advertising 4GB and not delivering it??
seriously, i suspect it's there, just locked or hidden for whatever purposes
i'm sure it is there also. it is a brand new phone, i'm sure it is hiding or waiting to be used for something
apps2sd? using it somehow?
I'm going with the missing space being taken up by all the bloat apps.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.
Drakon911 said:
I'm going with the missing space being taken up by all the bloat apps.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.
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There are most definitely not 2.5gb of bloat apps.
If there was, it'd be impossible for the considerably-more-bloated Desire Z to cope with only 1.5gb of memory.

G2 Internal memory

So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
There is no way to unlock the extra memory, it's set like that in the factory. See the Wiki for a detailed explanation.
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if they can find a way to repartition the 1.5GB into 4GB, which i think is impossible. The wiki explains a lot.
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So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
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They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
ionic7 said:
They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
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No, it actually *IS* a lie.
The physical part is capable of being 4GB, but half of it was sacrificed **permanently** in order to boost performance and integrity.
There is more than 1.5 available though, its actually about 2.1 total available, 1.5 of which is in the USERDATA partition, the rest is in the SYSTEM and other partitions.
Full explanation located in Wiki
If anyone wants the details on the magically "missing" 2Gb of memory, there is a good explanation in the Wiki.
The consensus is that the hardware has 4Gb but it is permanently partitioned to serve as a 2Gb device with good redundancy and speed.
Explanation: The "missing" 2Gb
Wow, this whole missing memory theme won't ever die, I wish it would already.

This is interesting

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.
Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
Sent from my EVO
bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
Sent from my EVO
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
eatonjb said:
but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.
well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.
They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
smilepak said:
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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LTE NOT Landing Before July

The Verizon XOOM LTE upgrade will not be hitting before July, when it is currently scheduled. This date, as loose as it is, had the specific caveat that it is very possibly subject to further delay.
For obvious reasons, I won't name the source, but I will state that they are within Verizon, and are in a position to have accurate information.
Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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timrock said:
Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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I believe it is coming my friend.... when? Prolly not soon but if never I believe VZW and Moto will be slammed with lawsuits from us sue happy Americans.
The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.
Sadly, those of us who gave Motorola one last try (on the Xoom, after we were all burned with locked boot loaders on the Droid X and subsequent phones) have been shown, once again, to not trust Motorola.
Yeah, some of the things that come with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are limited/annoying, but Samsung is proving to be a monster of a manufacturer/designer. Thinner than iPad2? Yes please. OPTIONAL Tablet Touch Wiz UI? Doesn't bother me, it's OPTIONAL. Sure, it was probably Google's call on that one, but that's actually a good thing. Sounds like Google is headed in the right direction regarding Android skins.
Anyway, my Xoom is fine for me for now - and it was great as a first-adopter product. But NEVER again will I buy Motorola. EVER. This was the nail in the coffin. But I got my Honeycomb first, which was worth one last chance on Motorola.
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dubie76 said:
The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY
ZanshinG1 said:
As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.
keitht said:
I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.
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Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.
csseale said:
Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.
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Good. I bought this thing on day one... almost 4 months ago. I have never seen anything like this before. Add me to the lawsuit please.
What's the SD card issue anyway? I'm not understanding how ref's can get it to work but a multi-million dollar corporation can't.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/4268499/petition.html
csseale said:
There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY
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Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.
Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd
Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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hammer4203 said:
Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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Sorry but you are incorrect. There are several honeycomb tablets released that have working microSD card slots.
Arun01 said:
Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd
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We've always known we were going to have to send it in...
ZanshinG1 said:
Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.
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BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?
Divine_Madcat said:
BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?
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When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?
this is without a doubt, the most well written easy to understand post i have seen on this forum in regards to why the SD card feature has been delayed. This explains it well for the laymen. thank you for the thought out post.
JanetPanic said:
When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?
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