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another xoom or tab 10.1?

I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.

Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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cesarcerros31 said:
Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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You sure about that? Last I heard, it won't even come with touch wiz.

cesarcerros31 said:
Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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Now, we aren't certain about anything yet.
I hate TW (Vibrant owner) as much as the next guy, but I've heard conflicting reports (too lazy to properly cite right now) on whether the new incarnation of TW will simply be a UI overlay, or a fully integrated modification to the OS.
I'm certainly keeping my ear to the ground re: the new line of Galaxy tablets.
That said, if the tablet need is now, the Xoom is the best bet IMO.

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Please put a disclaimer when you post this. There is no confirmation whether or not these devices will have touch wiz. Many reports even say that if it does come with TouchWiz, it will be able to be turned off.

I actually plan on selling my Xoom once a tablet with the new Qualcomm chipset comes out. I didn't realize the media limitations of the Tegra 2 until after I bought it and am having a bit of buyers remorse now. The new Qualcomms can decode 1080p like the TI used in the Playbook. I'm not sure if this is something that can be addressed by nvidia via drivers. For the record I'm able to play high profile (4500kbps) 720p encoded with DVD Catalyst on my Xoom.
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The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
All depend on how long you want to wait for the 10.1 Galaxy tab.
Also the Galaxy tab 8.9 (470g) is almost light as the 7" Galaxy tab (380g), that might be a good 2nd tablet.
Link:
http://getandroidstuff.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-89/

Bigmille said:
The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
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From the specs we saw on the GT 10.1v (the older model) the battery size will be the same or slightly bigger than the Xoom.
FWIW. I'm growing a bit tired of the size/weight of the Xoom. The 8.9 (or other similar sized/weighted tablets) might be up my alley. The Xoom is just too clumsy and heavy for extended 1 handed use (not to mention that the UI is not very landscape 1-hand friendly). I'll take a device that is made out of plastic as long as its light and well built for the components.

I think they mentioned that the touch wiz ux is just a set of widgets and not fully integrated into the system
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That Tab 10.1 is a sexy looking device. Tough decision. It might be worth going with the 10.1 just to get the better screen, though IIRC, it doesn't have a SDcard slot (not that it's doing us Xoom owners much good right now).
That said, I think physical storage capacity is almost irrelevant anymore. I have both Amazon cloud for my music and Google cloud for pictures and docs. The only storage I actually need is for apps, and they're generally small.

The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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jvs60 said:
The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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I think you're right. Can't remember, but I feel like the 8.9 didn't have a SDcard slot though. Could be wrong.

The new samsung galaxy 10.1 should be a nice tablet and should not come with anything but pure honeycomb with some added apps/Widgets.
Other tablets to consider, besides the ipad2 or new Samsung 10.1:
Asus transformer, which will be short on stock and hard to come by for the next few months or so. It has a nice pricepoint and some nice accessories.
Nook color, just updated to basically be a pseudo tablet but has alot of Dev/rom support so is pretty much full blow android experience.
HTC flyer, will have some very awesome features especially very accurate integration with stylus, not using honeycomb experience but should be upgraded to honeycomb soon after release.
Playbook, nice tablet but is kind of hampered at the moment and is meant more for business user in my opinion.
Toshiba 10.1 inch tablet rumored to be Google's baby and if true should get great honeycomb support. This will be THE tablet if all the rumors are true (do a Google search for nexus tablet or nexus t). We should find out at Google I/o on may 10th or 11th.
Honestly I would go with the xoom or the Toshiba tablet. I would certainly wait till Google I/o to make a decision since the xoom should have some updates coming down the pipe as well.

I for one will keep my Xoom and upgrade a year or 2 down the road (I'll give it to my wife or something) to the latest octuple core processor 1mm thick 10" tablet capable of playing 4K video flawlessly. Then I will laugh at all of you with your old samsung 10.1's! bwahahaha

I'd wait to see if it has a working fastboot first, and can flash unsigned images.

Touchwiz for Honeycomb
Anandtech is saying it will ship with Touchwiz for Honeycomb.
Halfway down the page:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4233/...1-89-smaller-than-ipad-2-competitively-priced

Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.

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Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.
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take me?
I am expecting a lot from Google this year in io, they have been way too quite about honeycomb

djsaad1 said:
I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1's greatest attribute is how thin and light it is. Touchwiz will hinder you if you wanted to stay current with Honeycomb's latest n greatest versions.
All depends on whats important to you or your wife...whomever is going to use it.

jvs60 said:
The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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GO CANES!!!

Xoom vs GT 10.1

Will any Xoomer switch to Galaxy Tab 10.1 due to thinner and lighter size?

No, spent too much on my Xoom to do that. Plus I like having SD and ports
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MadFoodScientist said:
No, spent too much on my Xoom to do that. Plus I like having SD and ports
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+1
Love the Xoom, invested financially and emotionally.

SnakeManJayd said:
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Love the Xoom, invested financially and emotionally.
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Emotionally?? LMAO. I know the feeling

Galaxy Tab has no SDCard slot and no HDMI out. The production versions (not the ones from I/O) will also have an ugly touchwiz skin over it.
No thanks.

it's not worth upgrading to a new tablet this early. Maybe next year with the next gen tegras and every tab being light as the ipad 2 with all the features of the xoom.

Berzerker7 said:
Galaxy Tab has no SDCard slot and no HDMI out. The production versions (not the ones from I/O) will also have an ugly touchwiz skin over it.
No thanks.
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had my Xoom for 2 months almost. Never even thought about using the HDMI port, and our SDcard doesn't even work.
The biggest portion of storage on a device like this music/movies. Google cloud music just fixed the music issue.
I just don't need more than 16gb of storage. Really.
My 2 issues with the Xoom: Weight and size. The GT is lighter so its on the list.

Berzerker7 said:
Galaxy Tab has no SDCard slot and no HDMI out. The production versions (not the ones from I/O) will also have an ugly touchwiz skin over it.
No thanks.
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There is HDMI support, you just have to buy an adaptor

If the GT 10.1 had a brighter screen than the Xoom's but same resolution I would be interested. Thats always been my biggest complaint about the Xoom.
I don't really care about the extra CDcard slot. (haven't missed it yet on the xoom)
I think HDMI is a gimmick, Have you ever actually seen anyone use it? I guess now that we are starting to actually have easier access to movies it may get used.
Lighter Weight and thinner would be a plus but it's still going to be too big to fit in your pocket so whats it matter really. If the battery life is not as good I would rather have a heavier thicker tablet.
Also it would have to be rooted.
Dan

despich said:
If the GT 10.1 had a brighter screen than the Xoom's but same resolution I would be interested. Thats always been my biggest complaint about the Xoom.
I don't really care about the extra CDcard slot. (haven't missed it yet on the xoom)
I think HDMI is a gimmick, Have you ever actually seen anyone use it? I guess now that we are starting to actually have easier access to movies it may get used.
Lighter Weight and thinner would be a plus but it's still going to be too big to fit in your pocket so whats it matter really. If the battery life is not as good I would rather have a heavier thicker tablet.
Also it would have to be rooted.
Dan
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I use HDMI out a lot. It's very easy to load a movie and watch it on my tv or the Xoom.

I'm still contemplating...
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despich said:
... have you ever actually seen anyone use [HDMI]?
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I do, at least weekly- and now that I can watch Amazon Prime/Google Movies, even more now.

Definitely switching
Definitely switching. In my opinion, the biggest shortcoming of my Xoom is the horrible screen. Reviewers are calling the Gtab 10.1's screen better than the iPad, and the screen on my iPad owns the Xoom everyday and twice on Sunday. Thinner and lighter is just an added benefit. I have a Google IO version in the mail, so no Touchwiz for me!

I have the GT from IO as well as the Xoom. My coworker bought the Transformer. I took a photo of them side by side:
http://www.inthemyst.net/IMG_4645.jpg
From that angle, the Transformer is actually thicker than the Xoom, but barely. I couldnt take any photos of the screens since there's too much glare in my office.
My honest opinion: The GT is sexy. Everyone that I showed it to thought it was amazing and wonderful. A couple mentioned that it is heavier than it looked (a good thing), but it's actually very light compared to the Xoom. I think the box + GT + accessories together weigh less than the Xoom.
If i were to go out today to purchase a tablet, I would probably get the GT just purely on aesthetics. But since I already have a Xoom, I'm going to choose to keep the Xoom because of extra MicroSD slot as well as the standard microUSD slot.

Does the GT have the same cool (blue) display tint of the Xoom?

Definitely not giving up my Xoom, the fact that we get all updates first is more then enough. Also 4G when we finally get it and not to mention who says the Samsung I/o tab wont get touch wiz in a future update, I'm not trying to deal with flashing custom roms on my tab
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Giving Sumsungs track record with updates. My friends has the fascinated and it is stil on 2.1. So its a no brainer I am staying my Xoom, soon to be 4g.

If i sell my xoom it will be for new features and better hardware, not size and weight. I dont notice millimeter differences, they are all equally portable, a ounce and a millimeter doesnt change much
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Oh, and I use my hdmi all the time. Nothing better than playing SNES on my 55" LED tv and a wiimote....
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Did the original samsung galaxy tab ever receive any updates??? i heard it never got any?
Think i'll stick with my Xoom

Screen comparison

How does the screen compare to the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1.? I know people say that the Galaxy tab screen is over saturated but that is a good thing to me because the colors pop more, and I seen a comparison video of the 2 and the galaxy tabs screen is much brighter not that it matters because I usually turn down the brightness, i just want to know if it's a really close call or does the Samsung blow it away?
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All I'm gonna say is, between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Transformer, you shouldn't base your decision of buying which on the screen. Both have their good points and bad points.

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All I'm gonna say is, between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Transformer, you shouldn't base your decision of buying which on the screen. Both have their good points and bad points.
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I'll just love having a gorgeous display, besides everything else is nearly the same
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juanzr1 said:
I'll just love having a gorgeous display, besides everything else is nearly the same
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Well, the Transformer has a MicroSD slot while GTab 10.1 don't. The GTab 10.1 is lighter, thinner.

frosty5689 said:
All I'm gonna say is, between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Transformer, you shouldn't base your decision of buying which on the screen. Both have their good points and bad points.
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I think the Sammy has a better screen overall. It is brighter and has deeper colors. But not by a lot. In my use of the Sammy 10.1 in stores, it did seem more responsive overall, and in comparison it seems I have to touch a bit harder to get the TF to register inputs. But I do agree the displays are close enough it really isn't the thing one should hinge their decision on.

teegunn said:
I think the Sammy has a better screen overall. It is brighter and has deeper colors. But not by a lot. In my use of the Sammy 10.1 in stores, it did seem more responsive overall, and in comparison it seems I have to touch a bit harder to get the TF to register inputs. But I do agree the displays are close enough it really isn't the thing one should hinge their decision on.
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Thanks going to wait for honeycomb to get more polished and get alot more apps, all there's to do is browse the web for now
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juanzr1 said:
Thanks going to wait for honeycomb to get more polished and get alot more apps, all there's to do is browse the web for now
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That may be true...I've had my TF for a few days now and beyond the cool YouTube app, don't see much more I can't already do on my Samsung Infuse...I like the experience but I could spend the $400 on something more practical right now...itvis a fine unit but considering taking it back...
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I think it comes down to a few things. The extra $100 you "save" with the TF, the microsd expansion, and the dock. If none of these matter to you, then you may want to get the Tab 10.1.
I use the TF as my main computer, so I could not live without the expansion space and most importantly the dock. Typing messages like this are such a breeze.

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juanzr1 said:
i just want to know if it's a really close call or does the Samsung blow it away?
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No! the transformer blows it away
The Samsung screen is sickly, samsung saw the negative reviews of the xoom about how flat the colors were and went to far the other way! It's gross!
The overall spec of the Tab is another joke, they read about ipad thin and decided to go thin, in fact it's so thin there's no room for anything, micro sd, hdmi.
What's the point in that

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Thanks going to wait for honeycomb to get more polished and get alot more apps, all there's to do is browse the web for now
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Actually, that's not at all true. While the number of Honeycomb-optimized apps are still around 300, most Android apps run on Honeycomb just find. They might not take great advantage of the larger screen, but they scale just fine in most cases and are fully functional.
I use my TF for 95% of what I used to use a notebook for. That couldn't possibly be true if Web browsing was all Honeycomb is good for at this point.

Quad core asus tablet announced , would you upgrade

A the title says Asus announced a quad core Nvidia tegra 3 tablet ,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/ personally if I get icecream sandwich I won't upgrade . What do you think ?
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.

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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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like you I'm very tempted esp after seeing the pics of the new Transformer Prime. If I don't do an impulsive purchase, I'll wait to see if Samsung is going to release a Quadcore GTab.

If it's thinner, lighter and price-wise = or cheaper than the GT then hell yeah!

not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195

Maybe in a year or two, but I don't feel the need to update just because there's a newer faster Tablet on the horizon. I bought my Tab for what it's capable of doing right now.

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not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
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On the emulator they found the tablet interface so ICS IS DESIGNED FOR TABLETS ALSO see the vudeo on engadget
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.

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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I could care less about the display honestly

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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.

If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined.
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Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
In my opinion, the TF is a different class of product to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is a definitely a "purer" tablet experience, and in general I do prefer my GT10.1 over my TF.
However, when I go on vacation next week, I will probably leave my GT10.1 at home, and take the Asus TF with dock instead because of the advantages the dock brings.
If the new TF can bring the tablet experience of the GT10.1, with the flexibility of the TF dock, I'm sold.
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
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I have got the uk 3g here in Egypt from Vodafone official store and I liked the black back allot more valuable than both metallic and write backs, thanks for your reply and wating for your comparison between the two versions
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
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I wouldn't call it "crappy" but I'd say it's pretty average. I looked at all the tablets before buying the G-Tab and none of them were as refined h/w wise. The Transformer's I played with all creaked and the display wan't as good as the G-Tab. Friends have Transformer's and some have had to either exchange them or send them in for service for various h/w issues. (And I know, the G-Tab has Newton rings but it hasn't effected my two or those owned by friends.)

is it not scaring any of you that quad cores are coming so fast.. it means google and the manifacturers did not even give their tablets a year to sit on their thrones (not even a half year for many ones).. it gives me the fear of being outdated "abnormally fast" (please mind that statement=abnormally fast) no matter what i buy... and now there is the risk for our tegra 2 tablets not to get ICS.. it also scares me to be outdated easily again.. i mean, if the biggest rival apple is still caring about their iphone 3gs even after 2 more new models, what manifacturers are doing sounds so nokia-ish (like giving birth to many children but not caring about their growing).. is it not?

No plans on switching. Waiting for ICS update and I will be happy.
Regarding TF201 I don't really fancy the "rings" used on on the back and the bezel that is big. But it got better battery with the dock (hence the big bezel).
Love my Galaxy Tab and wouldn't trade it for a Transformer.

The tab I want next is based on these factors:
- form: how thin and portable is it
- display: must be vivid and sharp, no les than samsung quality
- expansion: absolute must. itis the single place the STab failed on for me
- price: has to be market price or better, no first adopter prices please
- processor: the more powerful a processor you get, the less likley you will need to upgarde for a longer term
I will hold no loyalty to a brand, but some brands do things better insome areas than others. For now, the Asus pad, at least visually, looks pretty sweet.

If the quad/tegra3 can play my 1080p mkv content off my portable hard drive while connected to a HDTV with the HDMI cable plugged in then I'm sold.
As of right now when I bring movies home to my parents for my dad to watch I still have to use my bulky laptop. I got the tab in hopes I could decrease my travel weight. Alas I've only added as now I bring my tab AND my laptop.
So sad.

Taking Back And Waiting A Month.

Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
Swyped from my Samsung Epic 4g Touch with a bite of VeNuM.

HotInEER said:
Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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how much is it?
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JuLes' MostWanted said:
how much is it?
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$399
10 char

ezcats said:
$399
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wtf??? 399.
worth a trade lmfao
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HotInEER said:
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.

wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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That's what I'm waiting for. I love my 3G Tab and the only thing that (for me) needs improvement is a more powerful processor. For taking notes and such at work the S-Pen's also a cool and practical feature. It's been delayed until June so Samsung can put a new quad-core Exynos SoC in and I'm hoping they bump up the display resolution while they're at it.

I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?

crazydeo said:
I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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You can pre-order both the Acer A510 and new non-Prime Transformer (TF300) that has a plastic back cover and shouldn't have wireless issues. They're $449 and $399 respectively with the Acer being the more upscale of the two. Asus' build quality and QC have been sketchy and I haven't really followed Acer to offer any opinion. Costco's got some good deals on the G-Tab 1 and a ninety day return policy which should fall in to the launch timeframe for the Note.

Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.

When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.

MMcCraryNJ said:
Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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Sadly, I think you are right. I will have to be patient and wait and see what happens next. I guess with Google IO coming up soon the emphasis will be completely on JellyBean and ICS will be obsolete already by the time summer comes around.

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When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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The original Tab 10.1 is getting ICS. Samsung have confirmed it at several different points in time. WHEN will we get it, that's another story, but it's coming. It's being worked on. They even said that it was number 2 on the their priority list, right behind the GS II which has already started it's ICS rollout globally. It can't be that far away
So if you factor out ICS as an advantage (which you should), the only two things the Tab 2 has over the Tab 1 are the modified speaker positions and debatably the microSD storage (I say that because the storage sizes are halved on the Tab 2). Everything else that's different on the Tab 2 is a disadvantage.
Sorry to say, but it's the truth. And that 399 price point doesn't make it any easier to swallow, especially when you consider that if you can be patient for another couple of months, you'll have a huge selection of Tegra 3 tablets at all different sizes, all different price points, made by different companies.
Believe me, I'm not hating here. I got my Tab 10.1 last July and I absolutely love it. But right now, if 300 or 400 is my sweet spot for a tablet, I'm holding off for a couple of months. The Tab 2 isn't worth that.

BarryH_GEG said:
It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH...wow!!! effing samsung..
screw this..selling it and getting the asus prime

I would also hold off for the note 10.1... Better hardware AND the s-pen will give it functionality that no other tab has. I have tried the regular note (5.3) and the pen works very well, very cool to jot down stuff quickly or to add comments/notes to documents.

Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!

I bet they are having problems they will have a even bigger one if they don't get there arses into first gear people will migrate to other tablets.This is just another sorry excuse to buy some more time which they dont have and now where does this leave those of us waiting for ic4.0 to come to 10.1 user?

HotInEER said:
Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.

Joe T said:
I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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Probably. That's why I took mine back.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch with a bite of VeNum on XDA Premium!

I'm keeping my 10.1 4G, which it bought used for less than $300. I'll probably still get the GT 2 7.0 for $250 though, since it's wifi only.