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Some sad news on XOOM

So Koush on twitter just announced he is returning his xoom.
which ****en sucks, i hope he is kind enough to give us RM when the sdcard is supported.
and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
this all kinda sucks in the eyes of consumers (me + you) for software developers and even accessories. I dont know, maybe im kinda freaking but, it looks as though the motorola xoom is the nexus one of android tablets....i just hope it stays that way in the dev world.

Today seems to be a dark day for the Xoom community as well. All these bad news about the end of production, people canceling Xoom orders for the new G-Tab, now Koush leaving. But life goes on and I love my Xoom! After all, the Xoom is just the vessel for Honeycomb, isn't it? And as long as the bee lives we'll be supported by great developers

Hey Honestly,
Koush is a cool guy and he holds a ton of weight in the android community and I personally respect him and his talent, that being said I could give 2 ****s about what he or anyone else buys, never buys, or returns, and so should everyone else.
Personally the Xoom does what I need it to, and I like it. Some people will feel the same way about the Ipad 2, some people feel the same way about the galaxy tab, and some people feel the same way about Cheese. Out of all of us whos right? Every single one
If you like the Xoom be happy with it, if not return it. Simple as that. My only request is you dont post on here about how awsome your new device is because honestly you can go post that in the forum of the new device and it will not make people angry or sound like your gloating
The Xoom is the Nexus One of the Tab community, because with all of these new devices coming out who knows how much bloat ware or sense or blur or other crap they will have on them. Samsung for one does a totally steller job of providing updates for their devices (thats sarcasm) so I wouldn’t buy anything from them, but again this is my opinion, and someone may totally love their devices and want to catch them all (just like the pokemon) .
As for Motorola, what they’re doing is pretty standard. Think about it they probably have been producing units since Jan possibly even December for a early march release, a 6 month production run in a market where every week a newer shinnier toy comes out I feel is pretty standard.
Thats all just my opinion hope it makes you feel a little better tho And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy

dudeimgeorge said:
and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
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Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.

Squeak22 said:
Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.
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Wifi will give a price point that more people can agree with.
I'm anxiously awaiting my Wifi order to ship from Amazon.

Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
Edit: I know he does open source the code, but I'm unsure if the xoom support is in there.
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I just got my xoom for the GPS maps and the turn by turn directions. It works good for that so Im keeping mine!

This is really one of the major downsides of the Internet. It used to be that somebody could have a knee-jerk reaction to something, but by the time it filtered through editors, producers, etc., and into the print and publication media it had already been toned down and made far more realistic.
Nowadays, somebody misunderstands or misquotes something, and five minutes later it's believed as fact by the majority of the population, which has been conditioned to get information in tiny little chunks without any appreciation for context.

lifegear said:
Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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Oh please, the OG Droid got an update the other day didn't it? Our xooms are unlocked and unmodified to such a degree that we will be able to create roms from the 3.0 source code without any issue.
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Bauxite said:
I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
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I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?

jvward said:
And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy
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Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?

funnycreature said:
Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?
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Yep it was, its been a long day and I am tired

jvward said:
I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?
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Whether or not he pushed the code for the xoom is the issue right now.

All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!

mikejet said:
All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!
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This development might put the remaing xooms in high demand. Whatever happens I bet they will sell out FAST!. I am glad I allready have 2 of them in my home!. You know what they say..... a bird in the hand is worth 2 xooms on pre order at Amazon! LOL

i FREAKING LOVE my xoom. I have an ipad that also and I never touch it. Go android!!!

android ftw yo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUwqxHpXMY

i love my xoom too and im pretty content with it. i sold my ipad, two weeks before the announcement of the ipad 2 (robbed the dude on craigslist)
my main concern at this point, and i think its to a certain degree, paranoia, that the pushing up updates, dev community mods and improvements all together will be few and far between.
after typing that i realize thats nonsense, motorola sliced off at least 1-2months of shipping delays by delaying adobe, the sdcard and the 4g...just to be ahead of the pack.
whether that option was smart in the longrun is a question for the finance people. but as a android geek im good with that, just as long as developers (like koush) still have at it.

Thank god Moto priced the Xoom so high that I(and other sane people) got the ipad 2. At least I know that Apple wont just drop their product like that less than 6 months after release.
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stop producing? this is not true i think =)

look here
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/motorola-will-stop-building-xoom-tablets-after-june-report-claims/

I doubt they're planning to stop production all together, but it's not unreasonable to expect Motorola to slow production once they hit a certain level of inventory and sales are luke warm. The WiFi hasn't even gone on sale yet, so I'd expect them to gauge sales numbers and then adjust production accordingly.

omnia1994 said:
look here
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/motorola-will-stop-building-xoom-tablets-after-june-report-claims/
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that's fine - it just means my xoom will then become a collectors item?

if you look at the bottom of the article, there is an update as below..
UPDATE: Motorola just gave us a statement on the DigiTimes report, letting us know that their report isn’t accurate, and Motorola is continuing to manufacture the Motorola XOOM. Well, there you have it!
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that means it won't be a collectors item anytime soon

Hey, look! It's at least thread number THREE on the same subject in the same page! Report this please.

of coerce, they plan to stop production.. its a pics of technology. they will start making a newer version, or perhaps there will be a Xoom 1.5 that is just a minor revision.

The Nexus 1 has been out of production for like a year now, and its still getting updates...so I don't expect it to effect us.

Kcarpenter said:
The Nexus 1 has been out of production for like a year now, and its still getting updates...so I don't expect it to effect us.
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But seeing as that the report was false and Motorola is not stopping production (as originally stated by June), there are no worries.

Wow another thread about this? Nothing to worry about here. Spreading the word on this will keep folks from buying and ultimately make the rumors true. Wonder if an apple fanboi was behind the report?
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Meanwhile, in other totally unrelated news:
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/54903-is-motorola-getting-ready-to-ditch-android

Very unbiased review of Xoom vs iPad 2 on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2LLDLIHDUBV84/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2LLDLIHDUBV84
Let's spread this around and vote it up!!

This is truly an unbiased reviews. It shows the XOOM the way it is, warts and all (not that there are very many warts).

Spot on review.

This is very good review I have no regrets for buying my zoom
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c1808us said:
This is very good review I have no regrets for buying my zoom
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Is your 'zoom' better than my xoom?

The review might be unbiased, but it speaks of a very bad no-no about Motorola products: the bugginess of Honeycomb. This is bad because Motorola doesn't support their non-carrier products with updates and bug fixes. This means when Google updates Honeycomb to fix bugs, Motorola will never use it on the Xoom. What you get when you buy the Xoom is all you will ever have.
I'm glad I read that review. I really like the Xoom I played with at a local Best Buy and was contemplating getting one over an iPad2. Now, however, I know Honeycomb isn't perfect. That isn't to say there's anything wrong with Google mobile OSes, they all are buggy in the beginning, but it is a serious issue for the future. I know I would not ever receive any updates from Motorola...and you can't just flash a direct Honeycomb ROM from Google...so I won't bother with it since HC needs work. I will wait for the Samsung Tablet.

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Grow up.
This has to be the most immature thread I've ever had to suffer through reading. Everyone needs to stop flaming each other, or we will remove you from our community.
I'm not closing / deleting this thread (yet), because I believe the original post has a review that should be read. But don't for a minute think I won't take action against disrespectful users.
We're all adults here, right? I'm here to be your moderator, not your babysitter. Grow up.

MartyLK said:
The review might be unbiased, but it speaks of a very bad no-no about Motorola products: the bugginess of Honeycomb. This is bad because Motorola doesn't support their non-carrier products with updates and bug fixes. This means when Google updates Honeycomb to fix bugs, Motorola will never use it on the Xoom. What you get when you buy the Xoom is all you will ever have.
I'm glad I read that review. I really like the Xoom I played with at a local Best Buy and was contemplating getting one over an iPad2. Now, however, I know Honeycomb isn't perfect. That isn't to say there's anything wrong with Google mobile OSes, they all are buggy in the beginning, but it is a serious issue for the future. I know I would not ever receive any updates from Motorola...and you can't just flash a direct Honeycomb ROM from Google...so I won't bother with it since HC needs work. I will wait for the Samsung Tablet.
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This is the second thread I've seen you mention that Moto doesn't update non-carrier devices. Can you provide some reference here? I'm trying to understand how you think that the XOOM isn't going to get updates, especially since it has already received one and there are more on the way. The XOOM is a Google experience device and will get updates, and quicker than the Samsung products which will have to wait for TouchWiz to be pasted over top. After watching many Galaxy S users on carriers in the US wait for Froyo Samsung would be the last manufacturer I'd purchase from.
Back to the review, I also thought it was balanced. iOS is always very polished though it may lack some functionality and features. What it does do it typically does well. The iPad 2 is a device that my wife would appreciate very much and the XOOM is a device that I would prefer and will eventually pick up. I spent a number of years with Nokia Maemo tablets, waiting for Nokia and the community to fix issues and develop. I see a way better experience to come here than I did there.

this sounds like a similar review someone gave awhile ago - I'm still hoping my Xoom comes through next week...
also yes as mentioned - Motorola won't be updating the OS on Xoom - Google will be providing the updates - which is fine - it's one of the good reasons to buy one over the Samsung

great review really... I know the iPad 2 has pros over the XOOM but most pros are due to lack of user knowledge (like interface or apps...) so this is a spot-on review for people like us who know their mobile OS
I can't wait to get mine ... damn best buy canada... april 15th pre-order

Gorgonesh said:
T he XOOM is a Google experience device and will get updates, and quicker than the Samsung products which will have to wait for TouchWiz to be pasted over top. After watching many Galaxy S users on carriers in the US wait for Froyo Samsung would be the last manufacturer I'd purchase from.
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It seems a lot of people over here on the Xoom boards are desperately trying to convince themselves that the Samsung tablets will be horribly undated devices. While I can see by their track records that this may most likely be the scenario, they do actually manage to properly update some of their devices. And it should not be that difficult at all to update 2 tablets with little carrier interaction.
Considering the fact that the Samsung tablets have a better screen and a more thinner profile, I would most likely get them over the Xoom regardless of Samsung's interaction.

Gorgonesh said:
This is the second thread I've seen you mention that Moto doesn't update non-carrier devices. Can you provide some reference here? I'm trying to understand how you think that the XOOM isn't going to get updates, especially since it has already received one and there are more on the way. The XOOM is a Google experience device and will get updates, and quicker than the Samsung products which will have to wait for TouchWiz to be pasted over top. After watching many Galaxy S users on carriers in the US wait for Froyo Samsung would be the last manufacturer I'd purchase from.
Back to the review, I also thought it was balanced. iOS is always very polished though it may lack some functionality and features. What it does do it typically does well. The iPad 2 is a device that my wife would appreciate very much and the XOOM is a device that I would prefer and will eventually pick up. I spent a number of years with Nokia Maemo tablets, waiting for Nokia and the community to fix issues and develop. I see a way better experience to come here than I did there.
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I provided a link in my...erm...second post in this thread, I think it was. My main concern with buying devices of this nature that need updating often is that the makers might tend to disregard their products once they are bought. I'm not rich enough to take a chance on it. Motorola has been known to not support their products over their lifetime so that people will be moved to replace the product with a newer one. Motorola, Samsung, LG and pretty much all of the companies that make devices of this nature do the same. They are in this business with one motive: to make more money. They can't make money wasting time supporting older devices...even though they should. Motorola is in the worse position of them all because they are barely hanging on in the market.
When you know this about a company and then read user reviews that say the same thing, you know there is a serious issue. The link I posted was of a user review on Amazon that says the same thing I do. I already had this knowledge of Motorola prior to reading or knowing of the Amazon user review.
When I made my first post in this section...a completely different thread...I wasn't mindful of this concern with Motorola devices. Then, after having issued the post, I read this thread and started thinking about what I already know and have heard about not just Motorola but all of these device makers. It caused me to have a change of heart about seeking to acquire a Xoom or even the Samsung tablet, when it arrives.
This is why I made additional posts on the matter, to which some people accused me of trolling rather than understanding what had happened. They chose to quickly jump to the assumption I was being a troll rather than contemplating the situation and giving the benefit of the doubt. Their error is not my fault.
I own many Apple products and never respond negatively to people who spit out trash talk about them. I own many other products that get trash-talked from time to time. But I never respond negatively because I allow humans the freedom of saying what they want. They, however, refuse to allow me the same freedom.

Gorgonesh said:
This is the second thread I've seen you mention that Moto doesn't update non-carrier devices. Can you provide some reference here? I'm trying to understand how you think that the XOOM isn't going to get updates, especially since it has already received one and there are more on the way. The XOOM is a Google experience device and will get updates, and quicker than the Samsung products which will have to wait for TouchWiz to be pasted over top. After watching many Galaxy S users on carriers in the US wait for Froyo Samsung would be the last manufacturer I'd purchase from.
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Agreed, I don't know where this perception is coming from.
Also, don't forget that HTC tablets will get delayed updates as well since they'll be running Sense for HC. Looks like Xoom might be the one getting the quickest updates since we're still on the stock HC experience.

ASUS asks what you love the most about ICS on facebook! Too funny!

http://www.facebook.com/ASUS/posts/325697007473704
Look at the pasting they are taking from their TF101, and prime owners!

I was reading that earlier. TF101 owners trashing them for not getting it, and Prime owners complaining about the bugs. lol

I would like to know who is allowing ASUS's marketing team to post that crap.

LOL. Bad question to be bringing up until after they release updates that fix the Prime and bring the TF101 into the ICS fold (hopefully stable).
That is some of the worst timing I've seen.

i come here once a day and hope to see a thread that says "ICS is RELEASED!".

L to the O to the L.

"What do you LOVE the most about Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich?"
could be a hint on the release date...

0ri0n said:
"What do you LOVE the most about Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich?"
could be a hint on the release date...
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We can hope but your probably wrong
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"What do you LOVE the most about Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich?"
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Whoa
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Two theories:
1.> Samsung hacked ASUS Facebook account and trolled a bunch of users.
2.> Some guy working in ASUS PR Department, ready to quit, on his last day decides to get even because someone stole his stapler.

Must admit I laughed at the irony of them asking us what we like most about it when alot of us don't know anything about it till we get it, I just sat there laughing as I added my own QQ to the end of the thing lol.
In future I think avoid ASUS, according to the aussie website for the TF101 its update-able to ICS and has been listed as that for about 2 months despite it not being true lol.
Was very pissed when I tried to hunter down how to patch it to ICS 2 months ago all because website says it can only to find out some idiot updated the product page months too early.
Wouldn't the ASUS site saying that when its not true be considered false advertising and/or bait and switch because the product you buy isn't update-able like the product info says?

yeh i had to chime in on that one...what a stupid question. But that would be cool if it were a Valentines day release (love) not likely tho they want to fix all the bugs that prime has get it stable and then release them together i bet

I don't trust Facebook/Twitter sources... theyre usually just somebody who does not know a damn about what they are saying.
As someone who waited 4 months for a GB update on my incredible from the first "expected" date... We will see it when we see it.

not that its a solid source - i had a chat with a sony rep regarding the tablet s and he has said that they are expecting ICS on their tablets by the end of Q1....... from his understanding from speaking to reps from Asus the mid February estimate is correct.
Ive spoken to the Asus rep in the past and hes pretty clueless so id never post up anything he tells me......... for example: he didnt know what ICS was - and when asked about the Prime just before it was released he had no idea what i was talking about Goomba

Facepalm for ASUS.
Maybe, just maybe, they will reconsider their approach to product releases and release date announcements. Let's face it, if they'd not released ICS for the prime before it had been properly tested, and if they hadn't promised ICS for TF101 before Christmas then they would have got the positive responses they were probably expecting.

They couldn't delay ICS for the Prime, because everybody was talking about the poor hardware design.
This problem starts earlier, when they rushed the Prime's hardware design to get it out on market first.
If they hadn't rushed the Prime, folks would've been a lot happier. Me included.

knoxploration said:
They couldn't delay ICS for the Prime, because everybody was talking about the poor hardware design.
This problem starts earlier, when they rushed the Prime's hardware design to get it out on market first.
If they hadn't rushed the Prime, folks would've been a lot happier. Me included.
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True but then on the flip side companys that are behind other companys in getting stuff out loose alot of customers and thats why they rush a junk one out the door asap cause it makes more monies which is the only reason company exists in the first place.

Peteed1985 said:
True but then on the flip side companys that are behind other companys in getting stuff out loose alot of customers and thats why they rush a junk one out the door asap cause it makes more monies which is the only reason company exists in the first place.
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That only works for a certain amount of time, though. If you get a reputation for making bad products, people stop buying them altogether. I'm sorry, but taking a feature off the spec sheet because you found out it essentially doesn't work, but you don't want to put an investment into fixing it--and it could be fixed, for sure, the question is the expense--is the definition of making a bad product.
I'm curious, did anybody get a full refund (including sales tax, return shipping costs, etc.) from Asus for their GPS not working? They may have done, which would at least slightly mitigate the issue, but I've not actually seen any reports of that.

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I would like to know who is allowing ASUS's marketing team to post that crap.
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I'd like to know how the people writing for asus don't end up committing suicide after all the rude people yelling at them (about something they have no control over)

I am guessing that ICS will be released the 18th at 12:03:57 PM
Anyone that wants to make another guess?
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Another Motorola Rant

Well, today, the Galaxy S 2 AT&t got official ICS 4.0.3; a mere 8 months after its release, while we still have at least 3 more months before ICS is official and our phone has been out for over 16 months. Something smells fishy to me.
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And cue the "pile on Motorola even though we don't have any concrete evidence" bandwagon in 5...4...3...

Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.

Go ahead and jump to touchwiz then. Stop making rant posts.
I'd rather wait for the new stockblur look and still enjoy my phone.

93% of android devices are still not on ICS yet life goes on.....
Phone already does everything I needed it to. By the time ICS comes out there will be Jelly Bean devices coming out anyway.....

Different phones get upgraded at different rates. The Atrix saw a lot of updates in the first few months. The updates from Motorola may have slowed down but the updates from CM and other ROM devs haven't. There's plenty of life in the ol' beast yet.
Check out Jokersax' CM9. A few things aren't quite there yet, but if you work around them you'll have a near-full functioning CM9. Once ICS is official the few remaining driver issues should be worked out.

My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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andrew.cambridge said:
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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Same with my Dad's XPRT. Trapped on Froyo right now. But unlike the Atrix, the XPRT has pretty much no developer community.

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Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
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That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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Well guys seems like the Droid Bionic which has ICS slated for update Q3 along with our beloved Atrix 4G already has a leaked version out.
Below is tinyurl I can't post links yet due to forum rules.
tinyurl.com/7c9zzq4

Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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I tend to agree with this sentiment. It's the whole voting with your wallet thing. Unfortunately it's partially subjective. As I said the Atrix got several updates right out of the gate. The Xoom has been quick to get updates. From what I've seen Motorola is one of the top manufacturers from an update perspective.
But like others they do lag behind the Nexus line and they definitely lag behind all the developers out there (and here).
Remember that many of us purchased the Atrix on hardware specs hoping that there would be updates. At the time it was released dual-core phones were unheard of.
Fast updates are one of the things you risk giving up when you go the subsidized route. What you lose in updates you tend to gain in hardware and cost efficiency. The best route if you want fast updates is to move to the Nexus line. You'll spend more buying a new phone at full cost every year or two but you'll get updates a hell of a lot faster and end up with a stock device.

Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.

stewartsoda said:
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
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Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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Moto
I wonder when my Backflip is getting ICS. I keep checking the Moto upgrade site each day!!!! I hear that there is a leaked beta out.

andrew.cambridge said:
Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
As for other manufacturers, I'm reminded of the bad old days of badge-engineering with cars. Chrysler and their K-cars are a prime example. It reflects a "we build crap but we sure sell a lot of crap" mindset.

stewartsoda said:
It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
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"They [Apple] have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software"... that they make, they announce, and they release.
Of course Apple products are on the latest software that they create and don't release until it works on their own products...

Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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May I ask you, who desperately waiting for update, what you are waiting for? What exactly is missing in GB? I know features of ICS but to be honest, nothing so special that we can not live without.
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.

Zeljko1234 said:
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
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+1
Atrix Head

Deggy said:
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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That's not true even the Droid razr didn't get ics update yet
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 using xda premium