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Web Browser experience

Does a modern html5 site like this http://sammystodos.brandonaaron.net
works on Nexus One or Desire?
It seems that the browser doesn't support standards as much as safari on iPhone..

Chrome is by far the best browser on the market, followed by Opera.
Eventually they will merge everything that desktop's Chrome can do into Android..
But so far - yes, that website works fine, except for editing the fields that you added. I assume that can easily be fixed by tweaking the site itself.

I can confirm that its working on the nexus one with to stock browser.
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Works for me with the stock browser.
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DarkDvr said:
Chrome is by far the best browser on the market, followed by Opera.
Eventually they will merge everything that desktop's Chrome can do into Android..
But so far - yes, that website works fine, except for editing the fields that you added. I assume that can easily be fixed by tweaking the site itself.
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Which "Chrome" browser are you speaking of? I see a couple that say they only replace the logo, but none claiming to be anything different than the stock browser.

Sorry can u post a screenshot because I tried it in an emulator and I just see the background

No problem

Thanks a lot!
Rusty! said:
No problem
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Can you actually type?
I tried it on the Desire browser and it looks exactly like yours, but I cannot type. Holding the Menu button to bring up the keyboard doesn't work either.
Checking the checkboxes and using the trash can icon to delete items do work.

pjcforpres said:
Which "Chrome" browser are you speaking of? I see a couple that say they only replace the logo, but none claiming to be anything different than the stock browser.
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Google Chrome browser. I understand that Android is running a simplified version of Chrome on the PDAs.
http://www.favbrowser.com/chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox-vs-internet-explorer-vs-safari/

Paul22000 said:
Can you actually type?
I tried it on the Desire browser and it looks exactly like yours, but I cannot type. Holding the Menu button to bring up the keyboard doesn't work either.
Checking the checkboxes and using the trash can icon to delete items do work.
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Ah, no... same on the stock browser

DarkDvr said:
Google Chrome browser. I understand that Android is running a simplified version of Chrome on the PDAs.
http://www.favbrowser.com/chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox-vs-internet-explorer-vs-safari/
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So the stock Android browser?

The Android browser isn't Chrome. They're both WebKit based though.

Rusty! said:
The Android browser isn't Chrome. They're both WebKit based though.
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Yeah I know.. but I betcha they use a lot of the same code.
Why rewrite the whole thing of they're both based on WebKit and Chrome obviously has awesome code.

I think the N900 might have the best mobile browser, my brother has one and it's pretty slick.

Lazarpandar said:
I think the N900 might have the best mobile browser, my brother has one and it's pretty slick.
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How is it better?

It's Fennec, which can do everything Firefox can do, including making use of the desktop addons, and it supports Flash 9.4

This will be an ongoing problem with HTML5.
"how does it look on this browser ??"
This is what people dont get about Flash. You have complete control over how everything looks. You dont have that control in HTML , everything is still browser dependent.
Not saying this cant be ironed out..but the impression that a <video> tag is going to solve HTMLs shortcomings is silly. As it stands the browsers are already divided over codec support.

Hi guys, i wanna take advantage of this thread to now more real-life web browsing issues.
How well works this sites on the N1 or HTC Desire browser? (without adding any ad-hoc apps)
- www.facebook.com (does the chat work?)
- www.google.com/reader
- www.google.com/analytics
- www.youtube.com/html5 (how well run the html5 video)
Can u compare them to a normal web browser or iphone?

[Q]Any chance to get browser in desktop mode?

Hi just like title says.
Debug mode doesnt work

I installed Dolphin HD. You can find a "desktop"-mode in it's settings.

Dont want to mess my device, dont want a workaround ;-) so I'll stay at stock browser ... this one must do it somehow

what exactly is this desktop mode? Do you mean fullscreen? If so, webkit wont hide the taskbar, youll need a third party browser like dolphin or firefox.

ftgg99 said:
what exactly is this desktop mode? Do you mean fullscreen? If so, webkit wont hide the taskbar, youll need a third party browser like dolphin or firefox.
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the mode I nean is that the browser is not recognised as a mobile device but as a desktop pc, some sites redirekt you to mobile version and features are not available e.g. google calander

On my HTC, just click the menu button in the browser, then "More", then "Settings" and there you should see "Mobile view", just untick it.

Webkit will not allow you to choose user agent. Get dolphin he from the market, it does.

ftgg99 said:
Webkit will not allow you to choose user agent. Get dolphin he from the market, it does.
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Mmm I don't think you know what you're talking about.
Dolphin is using Webkit, it's just the appearance that has been changed.
And you can do it with the stock browser just the way I explained it a few post above.

Oh please.
Why don't you try doing exactly as you've recommended above little buddy, starting with more, then settings, then whatever.

what he is saying is true, i have that option on my htc but not my galaxy.

ftgg99 said:
Oh please.
Why don't you try doing exactly as you've recommended above little buddy, starting with more, then settings, then whatever.
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Ok I may be wrong about the settings, but still, Dolphin is based on Webkit.

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Ok I may be wrong about the settings, but still, Dolphin is based on Webkit.
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The Samsung stock browser does not offer the ability to change user agent. Samsung have stripped that setting from the browser (along with quite a number of other ones littered throughout the OS). Samsung's iteration and Dolphin are both based on webkit.
Use Firefox (behaves a bit randomly though, some pages display mobile view while others don't) or Dolphin HD with Desktop Toggles AddOn as a work around until we get some custom ROMs for this thing.

Like said above no setting like this in menu, not even with debug mode. Personaly I think the whole device is on every edge a bit buggy, translation faults and some senceless functions, or some wich are not thought to the next level. Like allshare, nice but not really functional no option to set more files at once in playlist, or mydocs, no option zo rename.

I also miss that function . On my N1 I can go into the menu and change so the browser does not present itself as a mobile device. On the big screen tab I would mostly like to view webpages as a real browser and not a mobile browser.
When You log on to a newspaper they all end up as mobile pages and You only get the stupid headlines and not the stuff You actually browsed to get.
Tried to download COD yesterday but could not do it as the browser went into mobile mode and presented itself as P1000 which stopped me from even trying to install it.

I search a little bit around without success, about:debug enable some features but seems there is not a chance to enable it.
Seems it happen also with Galaxy S with froyo installed, differently than HTC Desire that has the default the user agent selectable by default (I think is an HTC chose).
Anyway not just Dolphin HD allows to change it also Skyfire, but I agree that would be nice to have it on the default browser...(that seems to be faster then the Dolphin)

For me xScope 6 is the fastest (and featurewise imo the best as well) on the Tab.

With yesterdays release of Dolphin HD 4.0 we now have the finest mobile browser on the tab. All the bugs that used to tick me off are gone and fullscreen is silky smooth.

[Request] Hcomb Browser Fix

The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353

If we could get a fix for this I could finally love my tab.

There is a lot less lag on the bonsai rom, but it's not completely gone. Ultimately google will have to be the to fix it.

theyve never mentioned it /acknowledged it
thats the worrying part

Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??

it`strange becouse in some forums is all ok, in other the text is very very slow :-(

EyeAndroid said:
Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??
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I tried Opera and everything works great except two things. the first is that often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed! I had this happen to me about 5 times and then I gave up and uninstalled it. The other issue is mainly a preference, but the tabs suck! Give me real tabs like the stock browser. opera and Firefox have a horrible tab implementation on Android.

EvoXOhio said:
often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed!
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i hate this thing more of the input lag , when it succeed often i close my browser and don't write more becouse i'm frustrated

Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.

nMIK-3 said:
Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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even when I've manually set the useragent to a desktop browser, I still get kicked to the mobile versions of some sites. And sites like...google search, which should know better!
I've tested a bunch of browsers at this point and none of them are perfect. I think dolphin comes closest, but it definitely has little things that are annoying (such as it being way to easy to close the wrong tab)

nMIK-3 said:
Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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ninja984 said:
If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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I know. But after a while is going back to default.
I cant changing and play with the settings every other day.
Plus regular people cannot deal with such advance settings. I personally know 3 people they went with the iPad because of this.

SS2006 said:
The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
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I am a little confused. I don't have an issue with the browser or the typing...The pages load and scroll perfect and there is little to no lag at all on my typing. There can be a slight lag at times when i use the Keyboard/Dock but that is it.
Does anyone else have no issue?

Web browser recommendation

I have been using dolphin browser on my tablet since I got it. I am constantly having problems on various websites, especially when responding to threads or private messaging people. Can anyone recommend a better browser?

I use the stock browser, the best one for me so far (and, yes, I've tried Dolphin HD...).

opera mobile was the best for me so far
proxonic

Opera mobile is the fastest for me, but I find that Maxthon browser for tabs works with a few sites that opera has trouble with, its a little slower though.

Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202542

i find dolphin for tablet to work very well

mucus_android said:
i find dolphin for tablet to work very well
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I'm use it too!

browser wars on android
I use Firefox Beta on android... but it doesn't do flash so for flash I use stock. I also have Opera installed and use it occasionally. It doesn't seem to have issues with flash. I use firefox primarily because it allows me to synch bookmarks, passwords, and preferences across all my platforms: windows, linux, and android.

alexrb said:
I use the stock browser, the best one for me so far
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Bye
Nico

my vote to Opera. have been using it for a while on phone and iconia. Love it. Dolphin and stock are good to though.

dolphin hd on phone. most every thing else is crap. but when it comes ro my iconia, opera is almost flawless and doesnr end up hanging like dolphin and stock. and it seems to handle flash a lot better. with other browsers id have to set flash to on demand. with opera I can keep it always on and keeps running smooth. the tabs/windows are also a lot better to look at

Opera with flash and stock.

I think that opera mobile is great for thios tablet but it's lucking the option to change agent ;(

macia10 said:
I think that opera mobile is great for thios tablet but it's lucking the option to change agent ;(
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its in settings under the advanced menu.

... another vote for opera mobile here

mucus_android said:
i find dolphin for tablet to work very well
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I agree, best I've tried so far, with Maxthon for tablets being a close second.

RJOent said:
I agree, best I've tried so far, with Maxthon for tablets being a close second.
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Both of these are so much slower than opera though. I do like their UI better than opera though.

Disappointed with ICS (mainly Browser)

Ok, i upgraded from Roach Prime to ICS and now i have these complains:
ICS Browser doesn't have an option to define that i want desktop sites forcing me every time i visit a site to ask for the desktop version in the options, wtf is that??
In Facebook, even if i ask for the desktop version the chat doesn't get docked to the right like in a normal desktop browser, and the options of the chat don't work
Is there any way to solve this, where is the Chrome apk because from market i can't install chrome either.
All this ranting is not because of me, it's my wife's tablet and she is just complaining about all this and telling me that i shouldn't have upgraded and driving me crazy.
Chrome is not the solution because she watches lots of flash videos

I'm quite unimpressed also.
Sometimes I can click "request desktop site" and it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
I've typed about:debug and changed the user string to Desktop but it doesn't always work.
Also about:debug doesn't always work.
I'm having the same problems with chrome.
Maxthon for tab and Doliphin for Pad are currently my alternatives

Get ICS Browser + from market this adds user agent string option.

I went back to Revolver 3.11 for now.
I had a couple of random reboots on ICS when launching apps, and i notice this occasional annoying screen tear at the top left corner of the display.
Kind of like graphic anomalies you would get from overclocking a graphics card.
Never had that problem on Honeycomb.
I like the new features of ICS, but those annoyances will keep me on HC until they're ironed out.

People actually still use the stock browser? (and it's lame skins like Dolphin)???
Have they not heard of Opera Mobile?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.opera.browser&hl=en

CrazyPeter said:
People actually still use the stock browser? (and it's lame skins like Dolphin)???
Have they not heard of Opera Mobile?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.opera.browser&hl=en
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Maybe they are fed up of Opera's inability to display most websites in a normal way?
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I find the browser to be good. Opera is crap and can't display website properly. My only complaint is that MyNet is now unusable. Videos stutter and hardly play now where they worked perfectly before.

Me playing with Google Chrome. So farcso good. It is beta still though
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habylab said:
Maybe they are fed up of Opera's inability to display most websites in a normal way?
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I have no problems, and out of all the Android browser, Opera is by far the best at formattaing and reflowing them for mobile and tablets.
Did you set it to Mobile, Tablet or Desktop UserAgent?
or perhaps you are visiting websites written by 14yr bedroom coders that still think IE is the only browser on the planet, and as long as it displays in IE, they can get their money and run...
Either way, your comment stinks of ignorance. Clearly websites written to Webstandards will work in ALL browsers, and the piss-poor browser sniffing that badly coded websites use cause more problems than they fix.

Type about:debug into address bar
Press enter
Hit settings.
At the bottom...hit debug
See UAstring? Touch it.
Select your preferred viewing preference.

SiNJiN76 said:
Type about:debug into address bar
Press enter
Hit settings.
At the bottom...hit debug
See UAstring? Touch it.
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Hmmm about:debug does nothing in stock, and in Chrome, it tries to take me to chrome://debug and says webpage is not available. Any suggestions?

Hi to all, ice cream is very very great, thank you asus, but browser is not very good, is better then honeycomb, but i have some problem with download from file hosting site, download often don't work, browser say "download complete" but it has downloaded some kb of file not all, and if it work download is very slow, with honeycomb, i never had this problem, i've tried other browser, like dolphin, chrome, opera, same problem there also. There is some good download manager let me download everything with it? Sorry for my english, it's not so good
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If your disappointed with ICS just go back to honeycomb. Especially if its your wifes tablet. Not worth the aggro, in my experience anyway. Lol
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