Advice/opinions on switching from Ispire to Atrix - Atrix 4G General

Well I have about 3 days left until I reach my 30 days with my inspire and I do like it but now with news of a possible bootloader crack for the atrix, should I return my inspire for the atrix? How do the cameras really compare? I did like the front facing camera on the atrix, but that was about it. They were sorta of the same when I played with them at the store. Inspire did have the bigger screen and was able to use custom roms which steered me towards it.
Has anyone returned their inspire for the atrix? Before any news of the bootloader being cracked, and didnt miss the custom roms etc?

SysAdmNj said:
Well I have about 3 days left until I reach my 30 days with my inspire and I do like it but now with news of a possible bootloader crack for the atrix, should I return my inspire for the atrix? How do the cameras really compare? I did like the front facing camera on the atrix, but that was about it. They were sorta of the same when I played with them at the store. Inspire did have the bigger screen and was able to use custom roms which steered me towards it.
Has anyone returned their inspire for the atrix? Before any news of the bootloader being cracked, and didnt miss the custom roms etc?
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I wouldn't count on an unlocked bootloader just yet. My wife has the Inspire and it's a fantastic phone, but the Atrix is a whole different animal.
I suspect that I highly modified Inspire would have the same day to day feel, maybe less, but there is NO comparing usuable battery life. The battery on the Atrix is the best of android phones I've owned to date and that's a lot of them.
The cameras are great, but I don't use them much.
The screen on the Inspire is bigger and easier to use as a result of the size. Colors seem just a tiny bit more "colorful" on the Inspire.
All in all, I bought both at the same time and gave the Inspire to my wife. That should let you know which one I prefered.

Can you elaborate on the whole different animal part? What kind of benchmarks are you getting? Battery life wasnt that bad on the inspire, but I wasnt aware the atrix's battery life was that much better.

The bootloader story was a hoax, it wasn't unlocked and probably never will be. I would stay away from all Motorola phones because they all have locked and encrypted bootloaders. Other than the original droid, you probably won't be able to flash custom roms on any of them.

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Can you elaborate on the whole different animal part? What kind of benchmarks are you getting? Battery life wasnt that bad on the inspire, but I wasnt aware the atrix's battery life was that much better.
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Even with a 1.8 ghz oc on the inspire it still suffers from slowdowns because it needs to share cpu time where the atrix doesn't so there almost never any slowdown. I had the inspire for a week or so and the battery life on the atrix is way way better. As far a benches the atrix gets 2700 or so in quadrant on a single core, I think the inspire gets like 2100ish. I know you can get like 3500 on 1.8 oc but to get it your battery is destroyed. I don't feel like the inspire is a bad phone the atrix is just better and new, where the inspire is already 8 months old (desire hd). Just my .02.
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It depends on how you will be using...personally i'm a fan of both phones, but the Atrix just has something special... the battery is VERY strong, it does have a much better capability for future possibly. Webtop will eventually be completely cracked and run a full ver. of linux (it has already begun), so if u want a small computer on the go, this will be great. This phone is more future proof (dual core, tegra, ram, webtop, etc.) The inspire may have a bigger screen but that comes with a price counting that the inspire has a smaller battery. If you are into camera, then maybe inspire...the atrix camera is pretty good for 5mp but it does come out a little tungsten (in defense, built in image editor).
In general there are a lot of variables, what you really have to look at is how will you use the phone and then weight what the benefits for those specifics.

QuarkGluonSoup said:
The bootloader story was a hoax, it wasn't unlocked and probably never will be. I would stay away from all Motorola phones because they all have locked and encrypted bootloaders. Other than the original droid, you probably won't be able to flash custom roms on any of them.
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cmon, it will...it's just a matter of time, once someone figures the algorithm it's over...anything is hackable.

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cmon, it will...it's just a matter of time, once someone figures the algorithm it's over...anything is hackable.
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Droid X/Droid 2/Milestone 2 have been out since last summer, Droid/Milestone since late 2009...latest thing was a hoax to screw with hopeless user base...good luck with that.

I had the inspire for roughly a week and couldn't deal with the terrible battery life and the speaker that put out minimal volume even at max. The atrix has been a great device regardless of custom roms. There are a few developers hooking us all up with great mods for this phone. I'll for sure be sticking with the atrix over the inspire.
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I know you can root the atrix, but can you nandroid backup?
Can you install mods from CWM?
Also, once you root it do you get the option to install from unknown sources?
I'm about to exchange the inspire in an hour for the atrix, but of course with the locked bootloader being a big deterent. Then again, the inspire call quality isnt great for me, sometimes I couldnt even make a call when inside a store like sports authority, I have a bad signal issue. Speaker volume,etc. I definitely need the main phone function to work properly before I worry about custom roms.
Another thing I dont get is , why is it much easier to root an atrix with a one click root app but to root the inspire seemed a bit more tedious. The inspire being the unlocked phone and all.

I personally feel it will be cracked or leaked at some point. In the mean time there are devs that are working on methods to bypass the bootloader issue to allow for more customized roms. I don't remember the specific phones but there are a handful of them that have been overclocked whilst having a locked bootloader. The bootloader is a barrier to easy modding but with all the resources available, there are already plenty of fun/useful addons that you can put on your matrix.
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I had two Inpires and I returned them both. The first one had a real poor speaker that was tinny and I could hardly hear the ringtones. I missed calls and text messages because of the speaker. The other issue was signal strength. I had no service in many places my wife's iPhone4 had two bars and made calls with no problem. The second Inspire had a better speaker but it was still very low. I installed my own ringtones that I edited with increased volume so I could hear them through the speaker. The rear facing speaker was a bad idea on htc's part. The second phone went back because again the signal strength. I got in trouble twice because my boss was calling me and I didn't get the calls because the Inspire had no service in an area I always had service in before. I finally had to forward the calls to my wife's iPhone and use it for work. I went back to my htc pure and sent the second Inspire back. I am hoping that the Atrix won't have the same signal issue. I have read of many people that actually got increased signal in places they had poor signal strength so I am hopeful.

I would go against trading the inspire for the Atrix. I'm sure if anyone reads most of my posts about the Atrix, it will start to get very long winded, very fast but honestly that's how I feel about the phone.
Foe clarification, I had owned the Atrix for about 13 days then took it back so I am very familiar with the device. I have only played with the Inspire for about 20 minutes total but I do have a good feel for it.
The inspire has a better screen and a better overall feel about it. The screen is larger and of good quality; although the resolution is higher on the Atrix you can root the inspire and get a density changing app from the market and make them virtually the same.
The Atrix was very fast but IMO, not that much faster than a Nexus 1 to justify the purchase; I would say everything g was a little smoother but if I just kept my applications in check the Nexus 1 kept up right along with the Atrix. Of course, bloated/heavy vs streamlined and clean software respectively was tthe rresult of this.
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I went to the Atrix and so far so good. My calls are loud and clear and dont seem to miss any, and I can make them from anywhere. Still need to test different places out. As for the screen, for some reason I find the Atrix's screen to be sharper and I like the blues better for sure. The Atrix and screen feel more solid than the Inspire did to me. Inspire was feeling a bit flimsy when pushing on the screen, possible due to all its covers on the back. Using ADW launcher so its definitely smoother than the Inspire so far. I havent even tried a rom yet. Still reading up on that but I may soon. I just want a quick way to restore back to my prevois state.

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Captivate to Atrix...Should I do it?

My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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I also have a Captivate running Cognition and I prefer the Atrix in every way.
MrTrunks said:
My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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try the official froyo update, from what i have read the gps works.
if it doesn't and it's important to you then get the atrix.
otherwise keep your cappy and wait for the galaxy S 2 or something else
I'm in the same boat, and from what I've been reading in these forums, people don't seem all that incredibly happy with the Atrix. I'm planning on waiting for the Galaxy S 2 myself. I don't know if I can deal with a non-SAMOLED screen now that I've had one!
I have the Atrix and the Captivate. I am happier with my Captivate than with my Atrix. Although I do like the power the Atrix has but I prefer the media support for the Captivate and I prefer Amoleds to the Atrix's display. Download speeds are disappointing too, considering it's supposed to be 4g. The Captivate gets faster speedtest results. Atrix's Hd video playback for mkv files is really choppy and embarrasing for a dual core phone. My recommendation would be to hold out for the S2. Quadrant scores aren't that impressive considering a single core Nexus S is on par with the Atrix. Quadrant Score for Atrix is in the 2500s where as the Nexus S was in the low 2000s untouched. I'm trying to give the Atrix a fair trial, but for now it seems as though it will be returned. I'll be waiting for the S2 or the Infuse.
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I have the Atrix and the Captivate. I am happier with my Captivate than with my Atrix. Although I do like the power the Atrix has but I prefer the media support for the Captivate and I prefer Amoleds to the Atrix's display. Download speeds are disappointing too, considering it's supposed to be 4g. The Captivate gets faster speedtest results. Atrix's Hd video playback for mkv files is really choppy and embarrasing for a dual core phone. My recommendation would be to hold out for the S2. Quadrant scores aren't that impressive considering a single core Nexus S is on par with the Atrix. Quadrant Score for Atrix is in the 2500s where as the Nexus S was in the low 2000s untouched. I'm trying to give the Atrix a fair trial, but for now it seems as though it will be returned. I'll be waiting for the S2 or the Infuse.
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Im returning my atrix. Im running serendipity 5.11 on my cap and I noticed that motoblur is far slower than my cap, I use launcher pro also. I don't care about the screen (its a phone and its plenty crisp an image, I have a laptop and a desktop for quality.)
I didn't test the gps. I thought the camera over all wasn't as good as the cap, but thays probably a software issue not hardware. Though its disappointing that companies (samsung included) release these phone and advertise and price them as the next best thing while including hardware, I.e. camera sensor, That has been around for a while already and is subpar to some phone that are a year old already.
It obvioulsy performs tasks quicker than the captivate because of the dual core, but I don't see the benefits yet, I can wait.
I will wait until there are hacks if I really want it but for now the price att wants does not support the benefits. The real reason to get one is the dock and they've made that so expensive and trying to call it tethering using the dock when its all phone is dumb. I was told buy my friends at att tell me I can't keep my unlimited and add tethering either.(edit, clarify, I can't add tethering if I want to keep my unlimited plan, its one or the other)
Over all, im not impressed. But im sure it will get better with updates. Im gonna stick it out for a while with the cap and see what happens. I may give the new htc one a go first, its not faster than the cap, but its got a bigger screen and camera sensor so....
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See the GPS thread. THE ATRIX GPS WORKS!
Cappy doesn't. Atrix does.
Yeah, it really is that simple. Cappy is a little slimmer and lighter and has a nice bright screen--but who cares if the GPS will never work? And after two or three bogus fixes were issued and announced...who wants to wait and see?
And for the first time in all these years...a phone I've bought HAS A MESSAGE LIGHT! I can't tell you how nice a litle perq that is. Cappy doesn't have it.
Now, if they'd only put in a hole for a tether cord, because I'm often in places where a phone really doesn't want to get dropped.
Cappy gone. Hello Moto.
I have had 3 Captivates since they were released, and now I have an Atrix and Nexus One. Guess what, the Atrix is the best of all those. The Captivate is simply a garbage device, no way around it. No LED flash, no front facing camera, no LED notification, garbage GPS, slower, comes with trash TouchWiz, etc.
Rred said:
See the GPS thread. THE ATRIX GPS WORKS!
Cappy doesn't. Atrix does.
Yeah, it really is that simple. Cappy is a little slimmer and lighter and has a nice bright screen--but who cares if the GPS will never work? And after two or three bogus fixes were issued and announced...who wants to wait and see?
Cappy gone. Hello Moto.
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While I loved my Captivate, I must agree with you. Even with the best custom ROM for GPS (Paragon 6), GPS is hit or miss. Side by side, my wife's iPhone 4 and my Samsung Focus get a GPS lock much faster than the Captivate in difficult situations (indoors, cloudy day etc). I hope that the Atrix is better at this.
Another issue with the Captivate was battery life, which I hope the Atrix will be better at. Cheers.
MrTrunks said:
My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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The gps with Cog 4 is so much better than it has ever been since the Captivate came out. It locks on pretty quick and it's pretty accurate on location as well. My gps never worked until now.
lost2030 said:
The gps with Cog 4 is so much better than it has ever been since the Captivate came out. It locks on pretty quick and it's pretty accurate on location as well. My gps never worked until now.
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People say that every time, but yet it's still the same. It's a hardware issues plain and simple.
Squeak22 said:
People say that every time, but yet it's still the same. It's a hardware issues plain and simple.
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Yep. Regardless of ROM, my GPS on every Captivate I have owned has been entirely broken. 10+ minutes in an open parking lot, no signal lock. Atrix locks in my car in 5 seconds.
I made the same change from the Captivate to Atrix. Overall I've had a good experience with the Atrix. My biggest complaint at this point is Moto Blur. It's just crap. IF you decide to get the Atrix just be prepared for the different screen. The Amoled screen is better than the screen on the Atrix. I do miss that a little bit. But then I dock it on the Lapdock and forget all about it
I got an atrix on day one on day two i boxed it back up am taking it back monday. After samoled i cold not take that screen. It was simply horrible to me. I am going to wait to see what samsung, htc, and apple bring out this summer.
AJerman said:
I'm in the same boat, and from what I've been reading in these forums, people don't seem all that incredibly happy with the Atrix. I'm planning on waiting for the Galaxy S 2 myself. I don't know if I can deal with a non-SAMOLED screen now that I've had one!
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Hmm; have you compared the two side by side? The Atrix is a lot clearer and has a higher resolution.
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I have switched as well and I love the phone. Very fast, great life, and better durability.
I'm going to be ordering a case in a few hours and getting the laptop dock in a few days.
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Atrix is wonderful
Atrix is a wonderful experience, especially compared to the Captivate which was horrible, especially after loading in all of my apps the Captivate just froze with everything....the Atrix flies! Get Launcher Pro and forget Motoblur, it sucks.
I thought about it. I work for the Shack an get a pretty good discount on the atrix but I am simply in love with my captivate. Love the amoled. Love the huge selection of custom roms. The phone is extremely snappy running paragon. I am just 100% satisfied with the captivate.
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What about someone coming from a uk dhd, nexus s.... then a telus dhd.... my current desire hd, having hspa.... is great IMO, battery life could be better, but I have an extra battery...
Oh well, it will be here in 10 days, I guess that will decide all... but it is going to have to be great.... to make me ditch my dhd running cm7!
I'm torn in this decision too. I currently have a Nexus One and a Captivate. I was really thinking of selling the Captivate and getting either the Inspire or the Atrix. I messed around with both for about an hour and can honestly say I was a little let down by the Atrix. I really want to like this phone but I personally think the screen compared to the Captivate is just plain dull. Yeah, it has a higher res screen and I can appreciate that. BUT, the colors on the SAMOLED have spoiled me. I don't know what to do. The performance with a live wallpaper on my friend's Atrix was, frankly, pretty dang lousy for a phone that everyone has been raving about in terms of its speed. With a regular wallpaper the phone is certainly faster but it still didn't just blow me away. Also, the plastic build materials left a sour taste. Again, I really want to like this phone. I guess I'll check it out again and maybe have a change of heart. Anyone else think the way I do as far as the screen?

[Q] Does the Atrix live up to the Hype?

Ok guys ive been reading mixed comments about the Atrix that its good and that its not. I was in 2 minds whether to get the Atrix or the LG Optimus 2X. Originally I was gonne get which ever I could get my hands on 1st. Both have their pros and cons i.e. camera, ram, locked bootloader, screen quality, internal memory etc
Well I decided to get the LG and this comment made in the o2x forum sealed it
Ive been using my atrix couple weeks an am falling out of love with it fast, after yesterday it ramdomly shut off 2x an today once sofar. The screen is beging to bother me the screendoor washed out look. Allready returned lapdock, that cant even compare to a real laptop in my opion. So im looking hard at the Lg 2x for an upgrade of camera, gyroscope, performance, faster upgrade to gingerbread, real mirroring, 1080p recording an play back, 7.1 sound, totaly unlocked phone. Yes 512mb memory is trade off, but operating system will handly that, an the battery is non issue, I'll have a spare battery or a charging source anyway. Not to mention not paying 20/month to not tether, an having my data speeds throttled down to 1.5mb down an 310kb up lat of 350-800. An Atrix doesnt do LTE
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But now im stiill thinking what to do as Im so impatient and want a dual core phone asap. So I made this poll to see everyones view
Coming from a N1, there's not that much improvement. I'm satisfied, but not amazed by this phone. Still debating if I should return it and wait it out.
My impressions:
-Definitely faster, everything is much snappier, but browsing-wise there's not much of a difference.
-Screen is bright and sharp (as long as you don't put your face within inches of the screen you won't really notice the pentile display. But it's still an annoyance when you notice it)
-Camera is marginally better. Pretty disappointing for a flagship device. Plus the media gallery lags like this is a 2 year old phone when zooming in and out.
-GPS is amazing
-Pretty much Motorblur slows this phone's speed and potential. If this device was stock or able to flash truly custom ROMs, it'd be screaming in speed and blow every competitor out of the water.
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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.
19 voters.. 2 responses.. lol
I think it lives up to the hype.. couple quirks I miss from my captivate but.. besides that the phone is solid.
Now I just got to wait for Tango to support our phones :T
Came from the LG Expo. A much better improvement than the last generation phones. The phone just beats about everything out of the expo. Only thing getting to me is that the expo's fingerprint scanner doubled as a trackpad (would've been nice to have for editing text's)
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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.
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This pretty much summed it up
I think this is a situation that there is not enough tangible usage of a dual core for majority of people. Most of people wont notice any improvements in UI speed. We need evolution of software just like in iOS that despite this same architecture people could understand what the new software is bring them.
It feels a bit like a premature technology and we are all living dreaming of tomorrow while we are beta testing for Motorola/Samsung/HTC.
Just 2 cents.
Believe what you want but I love the Atrix. Had a captivate and it doesn't compare. My phone has never rebooted or lagged- I don't know what others do to theirs but my phone is rock solid.
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I'm lovin mine all around. For people who return it because of locked bootloader, I'd say that you knew that when you bought it if it's a dealbreaker.
The webtop dock alone has made this phone exceed the hype. All thanks to the devs
You guys rock
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i have a nexus one and now and atrix and have had it for about a week and i love it. It works great, no random reboots or anything ... just smooth sailing.
I know i can not customize it like I could my N1 but I think that day will come in time. I'll wait ...
Yes, it lived up to the hype in my opinion.
Came from Nexus One. Love the Atrix. It fast and solidly built. Im not sure why everyone said motorblur slow the phone down. I use ADW launcher and it scream.
The Atrix doesn't live up to the Best of CES 2011 hype. The locked bootloader, 1080p "coming soon" recording, overpriced lapdock, overpriced multimedia dock, and good-but-not-great screen keep it from living up to the incredible hype it garnered when it was announced.
Your poll is worded slightly differently: Was the Atrix worth it?
I just came from an ancient Iphone 3g, so the Atrix is absolutely amazing in pretty much every way compared to it and finally getting to use my upgrade was absolutely worth it!
I originally tried out a Captivate for about a week back when I first came up for an upgrade last november. It kept turning itself off (not sleep, total shutdown so I wouldn't receive calls, txt, email ect.) which was a deal breaker. The useless GPS didn't help it's case either. Screen was gorgeous, speed was decent, build quality was ok, battery life was ok. Anyways, I sent the Captivate back after a week, I couldn't have a phone that didn't take phone calls.
First and foremost I love the speed. This thing is lightning fast and seems to have horsepower to burn under the hood. Second is the battery life, I get home from work most of the time with over 40% battery power remaining which is absolutely astounding, my iphone couldn't make it through a full day without getting some juice at my desk and while the captivate did, it was usually at 10-15%. I'm also using the Atrix more than either of the others because I don't feel like I have to conserve battery power to make it through the day.
After those two big features, there are a bunch of less important things that I like:
Finger print scanner is great, I can unlock the phone without even looking at it. I know this doesn't sound important, but it's surprisingly useful when I'm just trying to pull information off my phone quickly and can have it already unlocked as I'm pulling it out of my pocket.
GPS is the best I've experienced on a phone, and better than some dedicated GPS units I've had the displeasure to work with.
Build quality (contrary to some reports I've read) is quite good imo. The phone itself is very sturdy feeling when held by the sides. The back cover is a bit flimsy, but it is also what convinced me to skip getting a case for the Atrix, if it gets scratched I'll just get a new back.
Gorilla Glass is not glued to LCD. Should keep repair costs down.
HDMI out is great, webtop with working firefox extensions is awesome.
Some good, some bad:
Screen resolution is good (colors not so much). The auto-brightness seems to be set a little low imho. I only notice a pentile effect on particularly small+thin fonts.
Camera is surprisingly good in low-light and indoor conditions. Not especially great overall though, tint seems a little off. May just need to set up a custom photoshop filter to correct it.
Call quality is good in quiet conditions, very clear reception and a detailed microphone. Not so good in noisy or windy conditions, the mic picks up a lot of extraneous noise, people are often asking me what's going on or where I am now based on background noise.
I haven't had much reason to use the front facing camera...frankly with AT&T's network I think video chat is a gimmick more than anything else.
I wonder about the finger print scanner/button longevity.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Atrix is the best phone around, but it was the best phone that fit my requirements (ATT, asap, batt life, fast) and so far I like it a lot.
Running ADW Launcher and really like the Advanced Clock widget.
I took mine back and have the Nexus 1 now; I liked the speed but for the most part, my 2.3.3 phone is about as fast; the main thing slowing these phones down now is the network speeds anyway.
If I'm on a wifi network, they're all pretty much the same speed.
Living up to the hype? Definitely not. There are a lot of small problems with this phone that a lot of people don't like; to me, it feels slightly rushed.
I came from an iPhone 4 and I haven't missed the iPhone experience yet. I started with the HTC Inspire which is a nice phone but the battery is rotten and the volume from the phone was pathetic. The Atrix has been an awesome phone for me. It has pretty good battery life so far and yes there are no truly custom ROMs but Adeo (REDUX) has made the UI lag go away on my end and I know others have said the same thing. I am loving the experience of this phone.
Just know that anytime you get a phone shortly after a better one will come out. It's all user preference and what you want and what you think is important. I'm happy but guy x may not be happy. So use one and if you don't like it don't keep it.
I went from a HTC Fuze directly to the Atrix. I love it. (almost) Everything about it. I have played with the Inspire and a couple other 2.1/2.2 devices (girlfriends captivate) and this thing stomps the crap out of them. The colors are just a little off, but that's probably just me going for an extreme upgrade from the phone I had before.
The *ONLY* gripe I have about it is the locked HSUPA. But with all good things come some bad, I think I'm gonna stick it out with the Atrix. Not only that but Spectral Souls looks amazing on it
Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.
The phone is great nuff said.... We are all a bit too picky but for what its worth this is really the only phone out right now that can take down the iphone 4. My iphone 4 has just been sitting on my night table since I got the Atrix. Atrix has so much more potential and the Android os is so much more pleasing than iIS. Once the bootloader gets cracked its game over!
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Genixoid said:
Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, I am using Atrix on my business trips to EU using local sim cards.
Probably, but the timing of updates is another question.
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Inspire vs. Atrix

Just picked up a Inspire(Just rooted and put CM on) as my personal phone to replace my N1. Replaced my iphone for the atrix for work. I dont know why people are comparing the two phones. Other than being able to use 4G before the "Launch"(Which is fast btw). i would still choose my atrix. It has front facing camera, faster and the fingerprint reader is a head turner. Cant comment on the battery for the inspire yet. As i put CM on it as soon as i took it out of the box.
One thing i noticed, is i can not get my inspire to see the Dallas server. My atrix will.
Atrix:
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Inspire:
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Hmm, I am also using both devices currently and while I like the Atrix, I wouldn't say it's leaps and bounds ahead of the Inspire. At least not at this time.
I like the camera and video more on the Atrix. The HTC definitely does colors a little better but I did a view side-by-side video comparisons and the Atrixs just seems to handle video much better. It looks better on a big screen, and seems to handle motion much better.
I personally love the Inspire's build quality. I like the construction and design of the device. I don't really have too many complaints about the Atrix's build quality; it's plastic but it still feels solid and I think the size is perfect.
I am not a big fan of Atrix display though. The resolution is nice but as far as colors and just plain ol' image quality, I find the HTC's S-LCD to be superior.
Atrix benchmarks are crazy, but the Inspire is no slouch either. Motoblur isn't terrible, I like the smart dial feature and the look of the texting app but overall HTC Sense is more polished. It just feels a bit snappier and more fluid to me.
Battery life is great on the Atrix. The Inspire's is typical 4.3" HTC battery life... which ain't all that great.
As you can probably tell, it's really hard for me to pick which one I like more. The Atrix is undoubtedly more powerful, but I see myself going back to the Inspire a little more.
I just sold my atrix on Craigslist yesterday and picked up my second inspire. I'm thinking I'm just going to keep it stock for a while. Love sense, love the screen, build quality,
And snappyness. It's just a better device until Motorola rolls out sine serious updates.
I'm doing very well with battery as well. Green power premium and a deleted sense account really does make a world of difference.
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Just took my Atrix back last night and picked up the Inspire. The Atrix, as a phone/text/ music/movies/games daily use mobile device, it stands up well even in stock form. Even if it did have some annoying bugs here and there for me. (Spotty bluetooth, muffled voice syndrome, random rebooting.) The resolution, speed and tegra performance was great as well.
Overall its was a good experience but I got bored fast even after rooting. My friends who have also bought one, who don't know or care about roms etc, love their Atrix in stock form and like it better than the iphone they upgraded from.
However, the Inspire allows me the ability to root, sim unlock, flash new roms, update kernels, radios, enable hsupa, sideload, and extend battery life. I did all of this as soon as I took it out of the box. Also the dev/user community over in the Inspire section is busy and lively and keeps me richly involved in all of these things.
These are the things that I want to do, and be involved in now and not somewhere down the road when the Atrix bootloader is finally free of its chains. The Inspire wins me over right now and the Atrix will have to wait as I sit on the side lines and look forward to a time when a bootloader solution arrives. Until then I'm happy with the Inspire. It satisfies my want to tinker and make it mine. It's no slouch as a daily use device either.

Anyone with an EVO 3D, prefer the Nexus S 4G?

Long story short: I was an original EVO owner who got caught up in the 3D hype. I upgraded my line with the 3D and gave my mom the EVO.
After using the phone know for roughly 2 weeks, I'm finding myself missing AOSP/CM7/permanent root/etc...
I guess I could swap phones with my mom but that would be too easy....
Which leads ne to my questions;
Anyone who owns both prefer one over the other?
How's the battery life?
Any major or annoying issues with the ns4g?
Sorry if this has been asked but I just couldn't find an opinion from the NS4G side only biased opinions from 3D users
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I know someone that owns both. I thought about getting a 3d and he told me the nexus is a better phone. If aosp/cm7 are your thing you cant go wrong with the nexus.
I had the ns4g for 2 days. Not a bad phone. One click root was a pain, not entirely one click but not too bad. I had cm7 and a kernel that allowed 1.4ghz overclocking. The biggest drawback was no micro SD. It had a built in 16gb flash so storage was limited. Not a bad phone, I liked it but 16gb isn't enough for me. I ended up exchanging for the OG EVO. I played with the 3d before my 30 days was up but it just wasn't for me. I find my ROM is sufficient enough for my needs and I can always jump back aboard cm7 if I want.
Sorry got off track, but if you can live with 16gb of storage then jump on the ns4g train. It wasn't for me so I jumped ship early.
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Some people really complain about the build quailty too. Though I dropped my ns4g screen down about 4 feet onto my kitchen floor and it didn't have one scratch. Im pretty sure the bezel protected the screen and also I don't run with a case. This phone feels cheap but it is built to last. Also people complain about the over saturation of color on the screen but really this is the one of the few screen that you can also see in direct sunlight, it is awesome. As for the 3d imma tell my brother to get it cause he doesn't know what aosp is and doubt he cares about rooting. Ill touch down back in a couple of days.
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Wow I completely forgot about the lack of external storage/SD support. After posting I ended up stopping by a sprint store and handled the Ns4g. Build quality is very discouraging just by its feel. I remember messing with the original nexus and was really pleased...
Looks like I may just hold off for now and use my other lines upgrade for an sgs2
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It is all plastic, but it still feels relatively solid. I thought the 16gb would be limiting, but I'm using audiogalaxy and music beta for audio, so most of my usual bulk is in the cloud.
Rooting and flashing custom kernels/roms was easy to do though, a real joy.
I would go for the original Evo 4G. It is more solid, larger screen, and has much better radios and throughput speeds than the Nexus.
The 3D seems to need a software update for wonky radio issues...
My Evo battery lasts 3x as long as my Nexus does. Though some people's Nexus lasts a long time, mine does not.
See this thread for more posts about this topic:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g/99912-must-strong.html
Yeah for sure, if flashing is your thang we got miui, many aosp roms, cm7, and enough kernels to boot. Also very easy to root as well. Nexus phones = flashers dream
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I've had both since both launch dates, the 3vo is far better, yeah you can't root/flash at the moment, but if you're thinking of getting one it's far superior then the Nexus, once we get s-off it'll be great. Only thing nexus has is NFC and it's easy to unlock. Battery life on my 3vo is almost as good as my nexus. Again, once we have s-off I really don't think it'll be a contest between the two. 3vo>nexus
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I would go for the original Evo 4G. It is more solid, larger screen, and has much better radios and throughput speeds than the Nexus.
The 3D seems to need a software update for wonky radio issues...
My Evo battery lasts 3x as long as my Nexus does. Though some people's Nexus lasts a long time, mine does not.
See this thread for more posts about this topic:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g/99912-must-strong.html
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Wow, really? I just traded in my EVO4G for a Nexus, and there's not even a comparison. The Nexus flat out sh!ts on the EVO in every way. Hell, it's faster than the 3d most of the time. Plus I totally disagree with all this nonsense about build quality. The EVO had a ton of hardware problems. Light bleed, screen separation, the plastic all around the screen cracking, etc. I'm sick of all the credit HTC gets for build quality.
I think maybe you should do a factory reset on your Nexus if the battery is that bad. Something is up with that.
I also don't understand people saying bad build quality on nexus or bad battery life. Feels solid to me. Is faster in every way than My og evo overclocked on cm7. And battery is awesome. O get 20 hours with moderate use and brightness all the way up and everything syncing. Very happy with my nexus. Remember everything new will always debut on nexus as well.

Verizon email hundred off sale

Ok, so Verizon is doing a hundred off all their 4G smart phones right now. Ive been waiting for a hew phone and this may be the time.
I currently have a D2. I originally looked at, and was ready to buy, the D4 for the keyboard, but the screen was terrible when compared to the other phones and I've honestly been using the keyboad on my D2 less and less.
I've also looked at the Galaxy Nexus, I've tried to like it but I just can. I was very dissapointed by the hardware when it was announced first off and secondly it just doesn't feel like a very well built phone. It feels cheap and plasticky. Ive seen way too many threads about signal issues too. Having a phone you can do anything to doesn't matter if it doesn't work. Also its the most expensive, by a hundred dollars.
I've looked at the Razr and love the screen and speed of the phone. Its got the Moto build quality, Gorilla Glass, kevlar, aluminium etc etc all the other stuff they say it has. Its very light and thin, too much so I think. Also its a bit wide and Im not sure I like the way it feels in the hand. I like the size of the Maxx better actually, but the hundred extra they charge for whats just a bigger battery is a bit asinine. Also its a moto and that means locked down tight. Sure there will be some ROMs for it but not to then extent you have with the Nexus or HTC. I'm kinda used to it coning from the D2 but sometimes it would be nice to have more variety and support. Even though it looks like someone may have figured a way to bypass the bootloader, but who knows how long it'll take to filter to CDMA phones. I also don't know if that would increase support a ton.
I've looked at the Rezound and in my hand that feels the best to me. Its got an unlocked bootloader now so support is going and it should increase. I like the screen. I could really care less about beats, but Its cool it comes with a halfway decent set of headphones I guess. Things that worry me is the build quality, but I think its probably fine and battery life. I've also heard that the call quality is not the best.
So it seems the prices are running 99 for the Razr and Rezound and 199 for the Nexus. I'm leaning towards the Rezound right now, as long as battery life or call quality isn't awful.
Anyone have any opinion or suggestions Id appreciate it? Thanks
if I had to choose right now, I would go with the Galaxy Nexus since it's a plain Google phone with no fluff and built for ICS from the start instead of Gingerbread build and upgrade to ICS (at some point).
I wouldn't trade my VZW Incredible 2 for anything....Yeah, it's a year old or so, but still one of the best phones built. Slap a case on it and it's nearly indestructible, and I've never had a single issue with the stock ROM.
except I'm on T-mobile now so I'm getting an Amaze
xneuromancer said:
if I had to choose right now, I would go with the Galaxy Nexus since it's a plain Google phone with no fluff and built for ICS from the start instead of Gingerbread build and upgrade to ICS (at some point).
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Ok, but there are ICS builds for the Rezound, obviously not official ones, so I should be able to use one of them and get the ICS experience on that as well right?
Is there anything that can be or has been done in the dev community to address the battery life and signal issues that Nexus is having?
All I can say is "I love my Nexus". Signal is fine for me. Battery life as well. The determining factor for battery life is really screen time. I can currently get a solid 4 hours screen on time using the stock battery. If I'm not using the screen as much I can get 15 hours easy , although I'm still playing with different kennel settings etc. Using Franco kernel and rooted 4.0.4 ROM at the moment.
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All I can say is "I love my Nexus". Signal is fine for me. Battery life as well. The determining factor for battery life is really screen time. I can currently get a solid 4 hours screen on time using the stock battery. If I'm not using the screen as much I can get 15 hours easy , although I'm still playing with different kennel settings etc. Using Franco kernel and rooted 4.0.4 ROM at the moment.
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Obviously the Nexus is a hundred dollars more then the Rezound at this point. You may not be having signal issues, but a lot of people are. Now the question is is it hardware or software. Software can be fixed and Id be fine dealing with that until it was taken care of. Im going to take it on faith that its software and let just say itll be fixed eventually.
How much can different kernals effect signal and battery life? Im thinking it can be quite a bit.
Does anyone have a battery life comparison of the Nexus to the Rezound? I just need to know if theyre comparable.
Also you can now swap kernals on the Rezound too. Sure it will never have the dev support the Nexus has, but it should have a good bit right?
I just want to know if I do decide on the Nexus that Im actually getting a hundred dollars more phones worth.
One of the things that does make the Nexus attractive though is resale. It will always go for more then most phones just of because of what it is. Once the next big HTC drops the Rezound will take a hit in the resale market.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
Having had all Verizon's phones I'm happiest with my nexus razr looked and felt the best but Motorola killed it with blur for me. The rezound gets uncomfortably hott trust me I went thru 3. The hardware is not bad at all on the nexus don't go off of a spec sheet you honestly can't tell the difference. Ics is top notch pure Google experience works this time
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