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And what about Movies?

Hi,
just wanne know wich formats the device play surely?
I know that it will play .mkv with h.264 anf 1080p .....
but and thats a very very big but....
Whats about watching full movies?
The Tab only supports FAT32 and files over 2GB are not supportet, how does this fit together ? Doesnt make any sense to me.
What about you?

Tried a little and as you say, large files can´t be added.
But 720p mkv works flawlessly.

For one thing its 4gb, not 2. And this still leaves you with a lot a hd files to watch. If something doesnt work, try vplayer alpha.

Played everything I threw at it so far. I use vplayer and the video app (the video app can play most filetypes and I use it whenever possible, its quite nice).
I tried mkv, divx, mp4 (h264 / h263), wmv and flv. So you are pretty set with these two apps when it comes to videos. vplayer had sync problems with 720p but the samsung app played it flawless.

shaggles said:
Played everything I threw at it so far. I use vplayer and the video app (the video app can play most filetypes and I use it whenever possible, its quite nice).
I tried mkv, divx, mp4 (h264 / h263), wmv and flv. So you are pretty set with these two apps when it comes to videos. vplayer had sync problems with 720p but the samsung app played it flawless.
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Its not about the player but about the filesystem wich cant handle murch more than 4 gig files

NightFire123 said:
Its not about the player but about the filesystem wich cant handle murch more than 4 gig files
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The standard user-accessible filesystem pretty much ANY device will be formatted as FAT32 which has a 4GB filesize limit. This is not a limitation of the Tab, but of virtually ALL devices that support external memory.
The expectation of being able to play almost blu-ray quality movies on a 7" screen is a bit unrealistic. It's only 1024x600 so anything beyond 720p is a complete waste of time, as is bitrates much beyond 1000kbps if you're using H.264 compression, as the difference is hardly going to be noticable on such a small display. The average movie encoded to a circa 1GB H.264'd MKV file will likely be virtually indistinguishable from its source when played on the GT, unless you've got visions of playing it back through an HDMI dock.
Besides, why have 4 4GB movies, when you can have 16 1GB movies to watch?
VPlayer will happily play pretty much anything at up to 2000kbps that I've told it to which is higher than I'd usually encode at unless it's for archival purposes. It does have audio sync issues with some high bitrate sources. You could also try Rockplayer.
The standard video player will handle pretty much any MPEG4 derived file that you can throw at it. (Divx, XVid, etc) and has no issue with 720p (1280x720) sources. Beyond that, you'll want to try VPlayer, MPlayer or Rockplayer etc.
Don't expect it to handle high-bitrate 1080p H264 videos very well, it's only a 1Ghz CPU after all and H.264 takes a lot of processing power to decode. You might get away with it if encoding with Xvid, but again, 1080p over 720p is going to be a waste of space on the 1024x600 display. If you want to output to a TV then you might get benefit from it, but it's a bit convoluted. If it's fairly low bitrate and/or a lesser codec than H.264, then you might have better success.

The GPS takes care of hi-def video playback, and while 1080p is pretty useless on the device. If you already have the video in 1080p format, it's pretty nice to be able to play it without converting it. And when the HDMI dock arrives, 1080p playback on tv is useful.

dhanjel said:
The GPS takes care of hi-def video playback
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the what with the what what?

If I got say a 32GB sdcard. Could I format that as ext3 and store files bigger than 4GB on there? Would I be able to easily access the files from the various apps?

Like others have said 720p MKV/MP4 will play fine with H.264/x.264 video tucked inside. To use the allshare app easily, use MP4 files as Windows Media Sharing will see those and stream them out via DLNA.
My reasoning is as follows:
1 - Screen is only 1024x600 so 720p is all you need (1080p content is just overkill here). Even regular old DVD rips look great.
2 - Only has two speakers, repack your MKV into an MP4 with the audio converted to 2ch AAC LC with your H.264 video. This is the same format used for the XBox 360 as well. Basically if you can watch it on your 360 (no hacks) then you can stream it with allshare.
I follow these "rules" and stream everything from my sabnzb homeserver no problem.

Can the Galaxy Tab play high-profile .mkv files flawlessly?

Can the Galaxy Tab play high-profile .mkv files flawlessly?
What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps ) without DTS sound (just AAC sound) flawlessly?
The Xoom is having problem in this department.
Also, what player do you use? Default, or Rockplayer or others?

Standard video player plays 1080p and 720p without any problem...
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i use mVideoplayer, like it that it can extract subtitles from mkv.

Stock video player has played everything for me fine
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

Earthbrain said:
What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps )
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High bit rate 4mbps? Compared to what, a cellphone video? XD
I got the tab to read PERFECTLY a full hd beast peaking roughly at 40mbps. H264, obviously. Was an mp4, but i doubt that a container will make any difference, i did watch several 720p mkv on the tab anyway.
Oh, i almost forgot: all this with the built in player. Using rockplayer in software mode, that 1080p beast ran at 2-3 fps.
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I have played 720p MKV file. But no player seems to play it smoothly. And most of them does not play the sound audibly.
Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
any suggestions for the MKV player?

richard_rama said:
Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
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I watched like 6 episodes of Panty and Stocking with the stock player. MKV with subtitles (i had to convert them into srt and put them outside the MKV container...) in 720p and clearly with h264 video and aac audio.
There is maybe something wrong with your player?
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I've got some mixed results.
Most files play fine, 1080p or 720p, but it has problems with some files with only DTS or AC3 sound included.

While the galaxy tab is the best media playing tablet I've tried (not tried the archos 101) it failed to play a 720p blu ray rip with 9 reference frames I think it was encoded with matroska libraries later than 1.0

Stock Player is amazing. I cannot stress that enough. It can play 1080p and 720p high profile mp4 h.264 videos flawlessly. Only gripe is the non-support for > 2ch audio, but this can be easily remedied via an audio demux with Yamb -> downmix to stereo -> mux new audio with Yamb.
I don't even watch movies on my HTPC anymore, I just downmix the audio, leave the video alone, and paste the file unto my device.
That's.
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I found that using Rockplayer universal with hardware decoding mode plays just as well as the stock play but with the added function of allowing you to choose which audio track to use. However if you have an integrated sub title track mvideoplayer is better. However what the device can play isn't limited to profiles, as I found the tab can play high profile but content encoded with some of the newer matroska libraries, it struggles with.

[Q] Supported Video Formats

Can someone check and post what formats the A500 can actually playback? Things like DiVX, XViD, OGM & MKV containers, etc etc...
Cheers!

FloatingFatMan said:
Can someone check and post what formats the A500 can actually playback? Things like DiVX, XViD, OGM & MKV containers, etc etc...
Cheers!
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i have to convert everything into mp4...

Plenty apps can play divx/xvid witout problems atleast. The higher profile HD videos are the issue so far.

I'm talking without conversion or third party apps. Their recent model phones, such as the Metal and the Stream can play DiVX/XViD's & MKV's natively, so I was wondering of the same was true of the Tab.

FloatingFatMan said:
I'm talking without conversion or third party apps. Their recent model phones, such as the Metal and the Stream can play DiVX/XViD's & MKV's natively, so I was wondering of the same was true of the Tab.
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No it isn't.
Regards,
Dave

Best I can tell from testing so far, without adding things like Moboplayer, the Iconia only plays .3gp and .mp4 files, using h.263 or h.264 (Baseline Profile only) codec, MPEG-4 (Simple Profile) in .3gp files, and (of course?) WebM (VP8) files.
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
I've been able to convert one of my HD files to AVI/DivX but the video is somewhat choppy when played through Moboplayer, I'm going to see if I can get AVI/DivX right from the source to see if that's smoother, or if I'm going to have to downgrade the bitrate further.

Well that's rather annoying... I wonder why they decided not to implement the same framework codecs as they did on their recent model phones...

If I had to guess (and I do ) I'd guess it's because the source for Froyo/Gingerbread is out but Honeycomb hasn't been released yet

Acer are an OEM. The likes of you and me don't have the source, but OEM's DO.

I'm currently working on a libx264 ffmpeg preset that works for the Iconia. Since I know very little about h.264 video encoding it could take me some time but if I succeed I'll post a guide.
It could be that by the time I'm done there's already been a software update anyway!
Of course, if anyone else with some experience on these things cares to lend a hand then feel free. All the test converts I've done so far have come out really choppy with baseline presets.

I can stream .avi files from over my NAS via PlayOn.

Best video player I have used! MX Player

Just a heads up - noticed a app I had not seen on the market before, MX player. Codec pack with specific support for the Tegra chipset, and so far it has done a *great* job with a few different formats I have thrown at it. Have not tried 720 or 1080 yet, but I think this one is worth checking out.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mx-videoplayer/com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
or just search MX player on the market.

Which formats have you tried?

Looks great!
I tried a couple of videos (mostly divx) and everything looks good.
You'll need to install two packages:
MX VideoPlayer
MX VideoPlayer Codec (ARMv7)
Nice interface, no scarring/blurring. I was looking for a good video player (to go with my shiny 32GB SDHC) -- much appreciated.

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Which formats have you tried?
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So far, avi, mkv, wmv, mov, flv and all seem fine.
Downloading a 720 and 1080 sample in mkv now for testing, will report back.
[update] 720 was great - smooth and nice.
1080 was a nightmare, dropping frames like mad.

I'm going to try this one:
http://bit.ly/pixarhdtrailer (via demo-world.eu)
update: this particular trailer is not supported by HW decoder.
Not an issue for me; hopefully someone can test a HW decoder-supported 1080p format file.

entropy.of.avarice said:
So far, avi, mkv, wmv, mov, flv and all seem fine.
Downloading a 720 and 1080 sample in mkv now for testing, will report back.
[update] 720 was great - smooth and nice.
1080 was a nightmare, dropping frames like mad.
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I assume the sample files you downloaded are H.264 and then you need to know if they're baseline-, main- or high-profile. Just saying 1080p drops frames like mad is not enough. Then again, even the stock player plays 1080p just fine if it's baseline-profile, so I'd say whatever you were playing wasn't baseline. And well, Tegra2 simply does not have the beef to play non-baseline 1080p, it's simply too demanding.

Just like Moboplayer it doesn't show the subtitles in my .mkv file nor does it scale the anamorphic aspect ...

AC3 support?
Hi,
imho both this MX and MoboPlayer are on par, very useful where MoboPlayer is ad-free!
Still haven't found a solution for playing AC3-audio-encoded MKV/AVI files. Either no sound at all or stutter when soft-decoding ...
Marcher

lol @ ad supported
I'm rooted and running ad-free android, had no idea this player used any kids of ads, never see any of them lol
Subtitles work just fine. They are supported.

WereCatf said:
I assume the sample files you downloaded are H.264 and then you need to know if they're baseline-, main- or high-profile. Just saying 1080p drops frames like mad is not enough. Then again, even the stock player plays 1080p just fine if it's baseline-profile, so I'd say whatever you were playing wasn't baseline. And well, Tegra2 simply does not have the beef to play non-baseline 1080p, it's simply too demanding.
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Thanks so much, WereCatf! I am actually a little behind the times when it comes to HD video formats and how they work, that helped make some sense of it. So I am assuming if i have non-baseline 1080p I can just convert it for the Iconia?

entropy.of.avarice said:
Thanks so much, WereCatf! I am actually a little behind the times when it comes to HD video formats and how they work, that helped make some sense of it. So I am assuming if i have non-baseline 1080p I can just convert it for the Iconia?
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Yeah, Handbrake works fine for transcoding things. I'm just in the middle of our guild raid in WoW, but I can post Handbrake settings for both 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile in two or two-and-a-half hours.
But do keep in mind that if you're just watching the video on your tablet, not on a big screen via HDMI, then there's no point in watching 1080p at all because the tablet screen is only 720p resolution. You'll save storage space if you transcode to high-profile 720p in that case.

WereCatf said:
Yeah, Handbrake works fine for transcoding things. I'm just in the middle of our guild raid in WoW, but I can post Handbrake settings for both 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile in two or two-and-a-half hours.
But do keep in mind that if you're just watching the video on your tablet, not on a big screen via HDMI, then there's no point in watching 1080p at all because the tablet screen is only 720p resolution. You'll save storage space if you transcode to high-profile 720p in that case.
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Sweet! Would be most grateful for that, I travel with my a500 often and hook into displays via video out, would be most grateful for those profiles.
Thank you for your help!

entropy.of.avarice said:
Sweet! Would be most grateful for that, I travel with my a500 often and hook into displays via video out, would be most grateful for those profiles.
Thank you for your help!
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I made a separate thread for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002

Video and audio still out of sync when I play my 720p mkv files. I'll stick with mobo since its ad free.

Great find to the OP. I just played an h264 sample 720p mp4 in hardware decode mode with MX player, and while it dropped very few frames, Rock Player absolutely refused to play it.

kjy2010 said:
Great find to the OP. I just played an h264 sample 720p mp4 in hardware decode mode with MX player, and while it dropped very few frames, Rock Player absolutely refused to play it.
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Thanks! Have really been enjoying this player, Rock Player and mobo player have choked at so many files I've thrown at it - while Mx player seems to have no issues with them.
Thanks to Werecatf - i have used Mx player to output 1080 via HDMI out via this player with very few dropped frames - everything looks great.
To those of you annoyed by the ads - assuming you are rooted - just install a ad-blocker. From the market, "ad free android" works fantastic for me, free package, I have not seen a single ad since I installed.

onelane said:
Video and audio still out of sync when I play my 720p mkv files. I'll stick with mobo since its ad free.
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Strange - played quite a few 720p files without this problem. Sorry to hear it. Does mobo player work without these sync issues? All i get from moboplayer is force closes and erratic behaviour - no idea why.

entropy.of.avarice said:
Thanks! Have really been enjoying this player, Rock Player and mobo player have choked at so many files I've thrown at it - while Mx player seems to have no issues with them.
Thanks to Werecatf - i have used Mx player to output 1080 via HDMI out via this player with very few dropped frames - everything looks great.
To those of you annoyed by the ads - assuming you are rooted - just install a ad-blocker. From the market, "ad free android" works fantastic for me, free package, I have not seen a single ad since I installed.
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You got two clickety clicks, one for the player, and one for adfree!

mrvanes said:
Just like Moboplayer it doesn't show the subtitles in my .mkv file ...
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for subtitle I just burn in when I encode using the handbrake...
works just fine.

Moboplayer works great for me. I like mxplayer, but mobo has a nicer UI, IMHO.
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TouchWiz removed video support?

One of my favourite things about the Tab 10.1 is video format support. My #1 use for the device is watching videos during my morning/afternoon commutes. I download some videos the night before, and drop them onto the SD card in the AM. The Tab was able to play all of the formats I threw at it in 720p no problem, in the stock video player.
The first thing I noticed when I turned on my TouchWiz-updated tablet this morning is that none of the videos on it work. They show up as thumbnails in the gallery and video player, but cannot be played. In Moboplayer, the 720p files struggle because it's now relying on software decoding.
Is anyone having different experiences, or have a work around? I really hope this is not an intended change, or I'm probably going to return it. Too bad as I otherwise really like the update!

The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.

That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?

duraeas said:
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
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Yep use handbrake and the baseline profile attached to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Just queue up your files and walk away. I think the files might end up slightly larger but I'm not 100% sure, either way it isn't a big difference.
I'm also assuming it's a bug as high profile playback was a feature that was added in HC 3.1

DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.

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DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?

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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
It states it uses hw acceleration on Tegra2 devices.

all the mp4 vids i had are still playing nicely on mobo player

Can anyone comment on DivX/AVI support?
I picked up my GT10.1 today, and since it supports DivX out of the box, gave some a try. I was disappointed that the picture broke up and pixelated repeatedly on every AVI I tried. So, I installed Mobo Player and tried it in software mode, but got exactly the same results (which surprised me somewhat).
I also have an Asus Transformer, and those AVIs play flawlessly on the TF using Mobo Player in software mode (since Asus didn't add hardware support for DivX).
I'm wondering if this is related somehow to this issue, since my GT10.1 came with Touchwiz.
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Dave

720p High Profile H264 is indeed broken. Verified in Mobo Player and System Media Player.
How do I know they are high profile? I made them, and because I only encode in high profile via handbrake.
Bummer because the Tegra2 handles 720p High Profile H264 wonderfully prior to this update.

I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.

TabGuy said:
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.

hoodoomagic said:
The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
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This is extremely disappointing news because one of the things I love about the SGT is the quality of its video playback. My friend has a Xoom and he was blown away when I showed him some hi-def videos I downloaded.
I have a lot of high-def videos I downloaded straight from Vimeo, and they play flawlessly on my SGT without any conversions whatsoever. The thought of having to use Handbrake -- or anything else -- to convert every video I own is not very appealing to me. I hope Samsung fixes this problem.

cameraz said:
Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
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I have mVideoPlayer, which I like the best. I also have ES Video Player which comes with the ES File Explorer. And, I also have VPlayer.
VPlayer will play anything I throw at it. I've never had it not play a video. I only downloaded it because it's required by Remote Potato. Remote Potato lets me play Recorded TV from my Windows Media Center cable card tuner.

To be honest, this is sort of souring the update for me. I'll be testing when I get home to confirm there is no problem playing back lower resolution files. Still, I like to keep a few high-def movies on my Tab and don't want to convert them all. I hope this is a very temporary problem, not something that gets fixed for the 3.2 build.

I don't know if this is related, but when I was trying out the new Kies app on my PC with my tab connected over Wifi, it (Kies on the PC) offered to download new codecs when I first tried to transfer a video over to the Tab. My PC shouldn't have needed new codecs since all the video play on my PC.

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DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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x2, just tried it out and it worked fine with my high profile 720p videos in mkv and m4v.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice
Just to add, the TW update apparently fixed ac3 audio playback.

my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly

what a dumb thing to do Samsung..

BluesTele said:
my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
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Well, the stockplayer can't play this pixar short movie. At least, it doesn't on my Tab... Dice Player plays it smoothly.
Code:
Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 47.95 (48000/1001) -> 24.00 (24/1)
Input #0, matroska, from 'for.the.birds.2000.720p.bluray.x264-sinners.mkv':
Metadata:
doctype : matroska
Duration: 00:03:25.24, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 640 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x688, PAR 1:1 DAR 80:43, 23.98 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s