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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-ready-to-make-sweet-love-to-rom-devs-and-rooters/
Looks like future Motorola devices might be better off than the DroidX/2/Milestone.
If you are too lazy to read, Moto stated:
"We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users' interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability."
Not sure how nobody has posted this yet...
EDIT: Looks like this was mentioned in this thread already. Anyway we'll see what happens.
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
Mortalys77 said:
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
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Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
Hmmmm interesting
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Yes you are right I know it has been posted many places. I was curious to hear the thoughts of people in this forum in particular some devs. I trust XDA forum opinion above others .
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What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
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Because they won't unlock it now, and this was just of a damage control thing.
They won't unlock the bootloader forbthis phone likely ever, but it is starting to look like they are going to work for their phones being development friendly judging by their recent response on facebook or twitter. I can't find it now, but they did state that they would like their phones to be more dev friendly
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Actually, the link is in the first post(OP). that is at least promising
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sciulli999 said:
Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
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They definitely had a reason to come out and say this. It was a direct response to: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
I don't get the feeling that their willing to unlock any of their current phones. Someone would've said something by now if they were really working with devs.
What's most likely is they will phones through google unlocked but not discounted by the cell companies.
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Protecting users? That line makes it sound like you would have to go out of your way to unlock the bootloaders. Either by giving up warranty rights beforehand, or buying a "development model", at unsubsidized pricing. Either way is reasonable, but as an average joe, I like warranties and cheap/er phones lol
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Wow, this would be very cool, where are you seeing rumors like this?
If it comes out as an OTA then I'll just wait for the devs to get it and break it apart so we can finally have an unlocked bootloader without having to SBF to get the OTA.
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Just a friend. Its an idea there tossing around you wont need to sbf as its optional and only unlocking bootloader which will show on your esn and void your warranty
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honestly I would take the loss of my manufacturer warranty as long as I still have assurian for lost or damaged I'm cool just give me an unlock option and I would stay with motorola
Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Where are you getting your information?
My neighbor is on the team that develops for moto
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Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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ksizzle9 said:
Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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Do not listen to this man! Look at his post count! "Posts: 666"
what if moto is waiting for unlocked bootloader to give out hsupa update? Think about to what if they made the bootloader locked so people could unlock the bootloader and they could use a new encryption with the update to relock it. This would be smart because if we unlock the bootloader and they make an update we wouldnt update it would be no point because we could get what ever we want with the phone through roms. but if the bootloader is broken and then they come out with HSPUA after then we would still need to update just because. Maybe devs know thhat and thats why they want to keep bootloader info under wraps and they assassinate anyone who leaks bootloader info because its a chess game between them and moto.... just a fun Easter conspiracy theory
Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
Very good theory you got there... :d
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Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
frankiedizzle87 said:
the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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Ya they do, just have to flash the Telus radio.
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Garrenteed they aren't, once we crack this bootloader we can enable faster upload speeds ourselves.
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Im att telus doesn't work on att right
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We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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i don't think the unlock BL can be fixed by moto.. as it's more like a hardware basis job which moto's android software update can not do anything to the bootloader.
for sure there will be more problems come out after the BL is unlocked,like: moto block the way of unlock in future updates; how to find the drivers for future android that moto will not provide.
but first of all,, bootloader need to be unlock and we can worry about all other things later.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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this is because the atrix has been released only in 2 or 3 countries.
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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having a locked bootloader gives me anxiety :|
So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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Yep I see what u did. Slander.
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frankiedizzle87 said:
Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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cegna09 said:
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
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Droid x bootloader has been cracked
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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What do u mean do my research first.... I asked a question and the only reason they've have 2.3 is cause it was leaked.... if we had a 2.3 leak We would have one too
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Two articles about the Samsung galaxy s3..ill be going EVO LTE for sure but this phone sounds interesting (old news I know. But now rumors are out the window)
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-usa-editions-official-03226029/
"LONDON, UK--You've probably read all the rumors about the next Samsung Galaxy smartphone. And guess what -- most of them are pretty spot on. Samsung's upcoming flagship handset, now with an official name, the Samsung Galaxy S III, has finally made its debut here in the chilly English capital." -CNET
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/35243707
Under "review" link automatically takes you to overview which is a blank page
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You should have posted this in the general section... Plus there are 585325522 threads on it already
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imheroldman said:
You should have posted this in the general section... Plus there are 585325522 threads on it already
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It is in the general section. Posted it here cz I have an EVO and heard people talking bout it awhile ago
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All I'm going to say is this: I told you so.
~teh roxxorz
I'm boycotting HTC so I'm waiting til this years nexus is announced b4 I jump ship I'm completely satisfied with my Galaxy NexuS2 right now, that would be an ET4G modified to have no hardware keys and running pure aosp
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I wish I could take so principled a stand (against HTC), cuz I agree wholeheartedly. That said, my Evo is feeling pretty old, and I think it's getting tired. And who knows how long til this years nexus (damn, what if HTC made it, how awesome would that be?!) Probably octoberish, maybe ?
With gsIII specs released today, it didn't seem all too impressive. Maybe, hopefully, that will cause more devs to stay with HTC, more of them to focus on S-off. I know xhausx has vowed to work on it, that's def encouraging.
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I wish I could take so principled a stand (against HTC), cuz I agree wholeheartedly. That said, my Evo is feeling pretty old, and I think it's getting tired. And who knows how long til this years nexus (damn, what if HTC made it, how awesome would that be?!) Probably octoberish, maybe ?
With gsIII specs released today, it didn't seem all too impressive. Maybe, hopefully, that will cause more devs to stay with HTC, more of them to focus on S-off. I know xhausx has vowed to work on it, that's def encouraging.
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Htc lost the bid Samsung has a standing agreement with Google to be the sole producer of nexus for a while coming, because Google doesn't like htcs bull**** anymore than we do HTC said the nexus would ship locked and Google withdrew their contract after Sammy promised to not lock down any of their handsets based on android , plus lte doesn't hit my area til phase 2 rollout this fall so I'm in no hurry to get a new device til I have Lte available
Edit: my dads company has over 20k employees nationwide, none of which will receive an HTC device on company provided accounts I talked their corporate account rep into denying HTC upgrades on buisness lines unless the employee pays for it out of pocket
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scottspa74 said:
I wish I could take so principled a stand (against HTC), cuz I agree wholeheartedly. That said, my Evo is feeling pretty old, and I think it's getting tired. And who knows how long til this years nexus (damn, what if HTC made it, how awesome would that be?!) Probably octoberish, maybe ?
With gsIII specs released today, it didn't seem all too impressive. Maybe, hopefully, that will cause more devs to stay with HTC, more of them to focus on S-off. I know xhausx has vowed to work on it, that's def encouraging.
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Why the HTC boycott, did I miss something?
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Why the HTC boycott, did I miss something?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they went back on their word of saying they'd unlock their bootloaders or the potential to [htc dev], but they have changed their mind and went with locked bootloaders.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they went back on their word of saying they'd unlock their bootloaders or the potential to [htc dev], but they have changed their mind and went with locked bootloaders.
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Dang, I was trying to decide between the Evo 4G Lte and the GSIII.
teh roxxorz said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they went back on their word of saying they'd unlock their bootloaders or the potential to [htc dev], but they have changed their mind and went with locked bootloaders.
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I think you're partially correct and partially incorrect. If my understanding is correct, they have a bootloader unlock, but it only partially unlocks it, making things still difficult for devs to work with. They didn't straight-up lie, but they told a half truth I guess.
Not worth a ban on a great phone to me. I'm excited about it even STOCK!
Just found a great article about exactly the ramifications of exactly what they did
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/dear-htc-can-we-have-our-phones-back-r709
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PsiPhiDan said:
Not worth a ban on a great phone to me. I'm excited about it even STOCK!
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I agree, even though the sgIII has full unlock, the lte and one x both have amazing stock specs. And to add to that, rom flashing is still available to do regardless of full unlock or not
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Mr Blurrycam in action. Who knows. Maybe this is for real.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/16/3091467/motorola-sprint-qwerty-keyboard-android-4-smartphone
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Motorola sucks
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Lol. Yeah, I loved my q back in the day, but I'll be hoping Samsung has an answer for this.
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Memories of my Nextel i95...
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I just saw this on Engadget and came her to post it but found this thread first I myself think Motorola sucks and will get the gs3 if that is still the best option come February/March. The keyboard is really just a luxury for me I prefer on screen keyboards 90% of the time. What are others feelings on Motorola?
Okay, enjoy your ****ty locked bootloader.
If it has the S4 cpu it is mine as soon as my upgrade comes
Also I'm 95% positive this is the rumored photon q
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danipoak said:
I just saw this on Engadget and came her to post it but found this thread first I myself think Motorola sucks and will get the gs3 if that is still the best option come February/March. The keyboard is really just a luxury for me I prefer on screen keyboards 90% of the time. What are others feelings on Motorola?
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Motorola phones should be getting better since google bought them. I know people that have a razr and all of them love it and it is fast. It's just their ui that's weird. I'm a sense or aosp guy. I keep sense on my 3d but I love aosp ics on my epic
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Hmm that looks nice. On screen keys smart. If the boot loader doesn't get locked down... I would think about it.
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As one who really likes (needs) to have a physical keyboard, the big appeal for me is the 5th row of dedicated numerals. That was the deciding factor for me over the Evo shift that was available at the time. I would prefer another Samsung, and I would prefer an unlocked bootloader. But if something happened to my epic, and this was the only phone like this available, I would buy it.
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For what it's worth, our Moto Rep told us about a month ago he had an inkling that their next flagship phone for us would be a QWERTY slider. Take that for what it is, but this would reaffirm it.
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Well, lookie here. I guess the qwerty slider isn't dead after all.
http://www.androidcentral.com/future-t-mobile-samsung-qwerty-slider-snapped
Maybe sammy will help us out and release it on Sprint too.
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squshy 7 said:
For what it's worth, our Moto Rep told us about a month ago he had an inkling that their next flagship phone for us would be a QWERTY slider. Take that for what it is, but this would reaffirm it.
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As much as I want it to be true, I'll believe it when I see it.
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k0nane said:
Okay, enjoy your ****ty locked bootloader.
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Hey...I'm sure it's a very nice locked bootloader.
If it were a ****ty one anybody could just come in and unlock the thing. And then where would we be?
Let's keep the new phone discussions in the new phone discussion thread.
Thanks
FNM
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Just creating a post in general to showcase my steps in an effort to get back to an unlockable boot loader from the .141 crap moto placed on my phone upon sending it in for repair.
Lucky for me, I was still under warranty so I sent it and and I am tracking it now... For the comment section I told them that I did not appreciate them upgraded me to a really bad version (.141) that made my phone really slow and unstable, and of course caused my once unlocked bootloader to no longer be unlocked.
Actually posting this because I'm frustrated and I hope that it will work so that way if anyone else is under contract or warranty can try and *hopefully* get the same results.
I will update as soon as anything happens.
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Nice try. Hope that you receive unlockable boot loader Atrix.
How do i know if l have a .141. My phone came from insurance.
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cooljeremy84 said:
How do i know if l have a .141. My phone came from insurance.
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Goto settings about phone and see is you have software 4.5.142 or 4.5.91.
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