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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-ready-to-make-sweet-love-to-rom-devs-and-rooters/
Looks like future Motorola devices might be better off than the DroidX/2/Milestone.
If you are too lazy to read, Moto stated:
"We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users' interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability."
Not sure how nobody has posted this yet...
EDIT: Looks like this was mentioned in this thread already. Anyway we'll see what happens.
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
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They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
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Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
Hmmmm interesting
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Yes you are right I know it has been posted many places. I was curious to hear the thoughts of people in this forum in particular some devs. I trust XDA forum opinion above others .
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What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
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Because they won't unlock it now, and this was just of a damage control thing.
They won't unlock the bootloader forbthis phone likely ever, but it is starting to look like they are going to work for their phones being development friendly judging by their recent response on facebook or twitter. I can't find it now, but they did state that they would like their phones to be more dev friendly
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Actually, the link is in the first post(OP). that is at least promising
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Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
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They definitely had a reason to come out and say this. It was a direct response to: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
I don't get the feeling that their willing to unlock any of their current phones. Someone would've said something by now if they were really working with devs.
What's most likely is they will phones through google unlocked but not discounted by the cell companies.
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Protecting users? That line makes it sound like you would have to go out of your way to unlock the bootloaders. Either by giving up warranty rights beforehand, or buying a "development model", at unsubsidized pricing. Either way is reasonable, but as an average joe, I like warranties and cheap/er phones lol
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Wow, this would be very cool, where are you seeing rumors like this?
If it comes out as an OTA then I'll just wait for the devs to get it and break it apart so we can finally have an unlocked bootloader without having to SBF to get the OTA.
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Just a friend. Its an idea there tossing around you wont need to sbf as its optional and only unlocking bootloader which will show on your esn and void your warranty
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honestly I would take the loss of my manufacturer warranty as long as I still have assurian for lost or damaged I'm cool just give me an unlock option and I would stay with motorola
Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Where are you getting your information?
My neighbor is on the team that develops for moto
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Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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Do not listen to this man! Look at his post count! "Posts: 666"
what if moto is waiting for unlocked bootloader to give out hsupa update? Think about to what if they made the bootloader locked so people could unlock the bootloader and they could use a new encryption with the update to relock it. This would be smart because if we unlock the bootloader and they make an update we wouldnt update it would be no point because we could get what ever we want with the phone through roms. but if the bootloader is broken and then they come out with HSPUA after then we would still need to update just because. Maybe devs know thhat and thats why they want to keep bootloader info under wraps and they assassinate anyone who leaks bootloader info because its a chess game between them and moto.... just a fun Easter conspiracy theory
Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
Very good theory you got there... :d
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Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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Ya they do, just have to flash the Telus radio.
Sent from Motorola Atrix on TELUS.
We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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Garrenteed they aren't, once we crack this bootloader we can enable faster upload speeds ourselves.
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Im att telus doesn't work on att right
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We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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i don't think the unlock BL can be fixed by moto.. as it's more like a hardware basis job which moto's android software update can not do anything to the bootloader.
for sure there will be more problems come out after the BL is unlocked,like: moto block the way of unlock in future updates; how to find the drivers for future android that moto will not provide.
but first of all,, bootloader need to be unlock and we can worry about all other things later.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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this is because the atrix has been released only in 2 or 3 countries.
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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having a locked bootloader gives me anxiety :|
So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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Yep I see what u did. Slander.
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frankiedizzle87 said:
Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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What do u mean do my research first.... I asked a question and the only reason they've have 2.3 is cause it was leaked.... if we had a 2.3 leak We would have one too
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I just picked up one of these and been reading up on it all... I checked I am on a new update so it looks like there's no root for me correct? Do you think a way may turn up? Is anyone working on it?...is there anything I can do like maybe call Verizon and hope a CLND will not have the update. .. thank you for any input
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ezknives said:
I just picked up one of these and been reading up on it all... I checked I am on a new update so it looks like there's no root for me correct? Do you think a way may turn up? Is anyone working on it?...is there anything I can do like maybe call Verizon and hope a CLND will not have the update. .. thank you for any input
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im shocked they are already coming with the newest update, did you only check the android version? like 4.1.2 because the update before this current one was 4.1.2 also
Nah.... I'm on 98.16.3.... I was to... I thought I wasn't going to get one on the new update I placed my order the day of... and it was shipped the day after.... but lucky me... I get a freshly updated RAZR M...
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I can't believe I gave up my unlimited data for a phone I can't mod....
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I downgraded mine from the update and then rooted it. You might try that. Using the Razr M Utility 1.20. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249773
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I downgraded mine from the update and then rooted it. You might try that. Using the Razr M Utility 1.20. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249773
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How can I downgrade I'm stock no root no unlock.... fresh out the box..
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ezknives said:
I can't believe I gave up my unlimited data for a phone I can't mod....
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I can't believe you didn't do some research, before giving up your unlimited data.
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I can't believe you didn't do some research, before giving up your unlimited data.
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I did... I was really thinking I wouldn't get the update... I ordered it the day of the update push... but then again I am very unlucky with phones...
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So wait, even if we have the update, it's okay, we can just downgrade?
Also, OP, I'm sure you got your RAZR for free on contract, but I bought mine new on eBay to keep my unlimited data. I dunno if $280 was too much for you, I usually wait until a phone has been out for a year or so and then I can snag it for $250-350 off contract, new.
On the bright side, now you can get the latest device when it comes out for a reasonable price.
If I were you, I'd take advantage of the return policy ($35 restocking fee) and get like the nicest phone possible- maybe hit up a Verizon store and try them all out. I know the Dinc 4G LTE and Droid DNA had 2-3 more bars than the Motorola and Samsung (and Apple) phones, but they all may use different "bar calibrations".
The only reason I got the RAZR M was because a good deal came up on eBay and the seller took a pic of the barcode/info, so I saw the firmware version before buying.
Best of luck!
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ezknives said:
I did... I was really thinking I wouldn't get the update... I ordered it the day of the update push... but then again I am very unlucky with phones...
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Yeah, that sucks. Gotta love the timing.
I found the 98.16.1 update file tried to apply it via recovery no go...I'm not going to risk trying to RSD the whole XML.. so I just called Verizon... asked if I could request a replacement without the update... he said... we can make a note to the warehouse but I cannot promise you one without the update as all CLND will be updated within two weeks of the push... so one can only hope...
Even if I can't get a an older version I'm probably gonna keep the M kinda a Motorola fanboy... I mean it was the first hand held cell phone I believe...
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Mine updated itself last night. Okay, fine, I probably accidentally hit the update button. Anyway, now I have a locked, unrooted M. Good thing that X is coming soon.
I got my M for $50, but was able to keep my unlimited data. It helps to know people in the business.
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I have a Utility/Script for restoring root on the M with the current OTA - you can find that here - http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
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I have a Utility/Script for restoring root on the M with the current OTA - you can find that here - http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
There ya go, root access.
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
There ya go, root access.
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Just to detail here a little. The root method is still Motochopper. With the help of realbbb on the HD, SamuriHL was able to produce a script to perform the function. I merely adapted it for the M.
This method essentially rolls back the device thru a modified fxz without flashing the tz partition, roots with Motochopper, protects root, updates then restore root.
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
There ya go, root access.
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Thank you kindly... I am now just debating on waiting for the replacement that may be the 98.16.1 or if I should go ahead n give it a go now...
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I love you dev geniuses!
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Just got my replacement... yay me root and unlocked boot loader here I come... thank you all for your assistance...
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I updated my RAZR m to the latest release from Verizon, and since I had not unlocked my bootloader yet, I know I cannot unlock it at the moment. Even if I rsd to the original 4.1.2 I still will be unable to unlock, correct?
Is there any work being done on a new unlock? I'm relatively happy with stock for now, but once cm10.x is more stable, and motors stops updating the RAZR m, I'd like to be able to flash something cool.
Thanks,
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tronjojo said:
I updated my RAZR m to the latest release from Verizon, and since I had not unlocked my bootloader yet, I know I cannot unlock it at the moment. Even if I rsd to the original 4.1.2 I still will be unable to unlock, correct?
Is there any work being done on a new unlock? I'm relatively happy with stock for now, but once cm10.x is more stable, and motors stops updating the RAZR m, I'd like to be able to flash something cool.
Thanks,
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Yeah, here's your news; the new update blocked the ability to unlock. You can't unlock, even if you downgrade, but you can still root. The unlock exploit came out in April and people were told to do it, before it was locked up. Dan also said he probably won't ever run another exploit. You can root and use SafeStrap to run older SS compatible ROMs. You're SOL for the AOSP stuff, though. Don't say you weren't warned.
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RikRong said:
Yeah, here's your news; the new update blocked the ability to unlock. You can't unlock, even if you downgrade, but you can still root. The unlock exploit came out in April and people were told to do it, before it was locked up. Dan also said he probably won't ever run another exploit. You can root and use SafeStrap to run older SS compatible ROMs. You're SOL for the AOSP stuff, though. Don't say you weren't warned.
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Yeah I Am SOL .... I tried to do the Unlock up then screen froze and accidental update button was pressed. Cries... Bows to Dan... Hope he decides other wise to give us one more chance at Bootloader.
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Yeah I Am SOL .... I tried to do the Unlock up then screen froze and accidental update button was pressed. Cries... Bows to Dan... Hope he decides other wise to give us one more chance at Bootloader.
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If your on Verizon and got the phone through Verizon do what I did before the time runs out... call them request a replacement device go through all the trouble shooting for your "issue"( I said the ear piece speaker intermittently goes out, yet works on speakerphone thus indicating its hardware related) after trouble shooting and problems still occur you get the green light for a replacement. request that they make a note to the warehouse to send you one without the update (I said because the new update caused data drops that didn't happen prior to update)... I hated having to give up my brand new device for a "like new" one but its better then having a locked device... the CSR in the chat said all devices in the warehouse will be updated 2-3 weeks after the update push so... act fast you may still have time left... if you get one with the update call them tell them your phone is working fine now and send the replacement back... or say something like the replacement is defective and again request a note to the warehouse... where there's a will there's a way....good luck
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This ^ I can attest to this actually working.
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This ^ I can attest to this actually working.
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Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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my method for GSM unlocking for US carriers using CDMA WS. no rooting, romming, bootloader-ing, xml-ing. quick and dirty
netizenmt said:
Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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It did... till you get all those miscellaneous fees... and not to mention the insurance I have paid for close to 6 years and never used...
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i did the OTA today and it totally BRICKED my phone it wont do anything, it had a full charge.
i WAS rooted but rsd back to stock, it was not rooted at all, but still bricked it, since i have no warranty what can i do? nothing??
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Not feeling like doing that. And i am not a Verizon user, I am with T-Mobile on the RDS/RadioComm Mod.
So I am just gonna suck it up and use it on stock, nothing wrong with it it works i like it. (Bugs me a little bit that i f up =( )
Next phone will be a stock Unlocked Phone so i don't have to worry about this, Been eyeing the HTC one Mini.
Or the Razr I. We will see... too many projects at the moment not enough money to buy a new phone.
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We're the scum of the Earth
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Germanese said:
Not feeling like doing that. And i am not a Verizon user, I am with T-Mobile on the RDS/RadioComm Mod.
So I am just gonna suck it up and use it on stock, nothing wrong with it it works i like it. (Bugs me a little bit that i f up =( )
Next phone will be a stock Unlocked Phone so i don't have to worry about this, Been eyeing the HTC one Mini.
Or the Razr I. We will see... too many projects at the moment not enough money to buy a new phone.
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Well if your looking to be pure stock but still carrier unlocked I have made a tutorial here in the Q&A. Just flash back to stock and check my thread using CDMA WS method. I even have a nifty video tut posted
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We're the scum of the Earth
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Don't beat yourself up over it or anything lol
I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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razvu said:
You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Bullhead00 said:
Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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razvu said:
Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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razvu said:
Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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Bullhead00 said:
I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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You're welcome!
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I want one! $480 is a good deal.
EBAY and swappa both have slim pickings.
I would guess bad ESN is rare, unless reported stolen.
heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB
GreenGoblin227 said:
heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB
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Who knows that that one will go for! The last one I was watching that was up for bid instead of buy it now went for over $900!!
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i am still on kitkat haha i love it!
Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?
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Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?
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No, Morom and Jasmine are based on latest Lollipop (BOG5).
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