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[Q] Is root persistent through OTA update?

I'm looking to root my phone but I don't want to flash any new bootloader or custom roms. I'm under the impression that I'll still be able to get OTA updates if I do this. My question is if I download and install an OTA update will I still have root on the phone or will it remove root? Thanks!

psyphris said:
I'm looking to root my phone but I don't want to flash any new bootloader or custom roms. I'm under the impression that I'll still be able to get OTA updates if I do this. My question is if I download and install an OTA update will I still have root on the phone or will it remove root? Thanks!
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I was still able to receive and apply the OTA after rooting, but the OTA did cause me to lose root. But re-rooting was pretty painless.

Its sure than rooting phone you receive OTA and can install it?? If yes, I want to root my phone, only root, i dont want to change anything more for receiving OTAs.
How can I do? just only root, any link to the safest way?
Is the same way when I receive an OTA and i have to root again?
many thanks.

1. You can use an app called OTA Rootkeeper. Use it to hide root before you accept an OTA, then use it to restore root after.
2. Yes, you can use adb commands (possibly the Nexus 4 toolkit as well) to temporarily flash clockwork recovery and obtain root. You will need to unlock the bootloader though, and that will factory reset your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331

Nospin said:
1. You can use an app called OTA Rootkeeper. Use it to hide root before you accept an OTA, then use it to restore root after.
2. Yes, you can use adb commands (possibly the Nexus 4 toolkit as well) to temporarily flash clockwork recovery and obtain root. You will need to unlock the bootloader though, and that will factory reset your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331
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Good advice for OTA Rootkeeper! If I head down this path I'll make sure to use that. I'm still looking around for the best way to root without unlocking the bootloader or factory reseting.

Superuser contains a built in 'try and preserve root' function which worked well when I updated to 4.2.1

[Q] Lost root access?

I've been rooted and running Sacs ROM for a while now, but somehow I've lost root access. When I try Supersu it tells me "There is not SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it..."
I have been trying different ROMS and restored from a nandroid backup using TWRP. What do I need to do to get back root access?

Can you not just reroot with CF Auto Root?

Yes, I can, but I wasn't sure if that was advisable or not given that I had root access before and somehow lost it. In any event, I re-rooted using CF auto root and all is well. What I don't understand is how I lost root access in the first place.

joelshort said:
Yes, I can, but I wasn't sure if that was advisable or not given that I had root access before and somehow lost it. In any event, I re-rooted using CF auto root and all is well. What I don't understand is how I lost root access in the first place.
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No telling why you lost it. Did you take an update?
I know I updated to NC6, lost root, but re-rooting was not an issue.

Permanent Root?

After installing the lollipop update I lost the rooting to the phone.
I rooted my phone again but to be sure for the next time,is there a way to root Lenovo a6000 plus permanently?

When u flash new rom, you have to root again, no way for permanent exept root option include in the rom

You wanted to root again hah? Flash SuperSU.zip (based on my knowledge stock LL cannot/hard to root withe root.apk like kingroot. So, i think the latest tricks is flash the supersu.zip) but still... if you are Advanced User if not dont trying it

GuestStar said:
You wanted to root again hah? Flash SuperSU.zip (based on my knowledge stock LL cannot/hard to root withe root.apk like kingroot. So, i think the latest tricks is flash the supersu.zip) but still... if you are Advanced User if not dont trying it
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Dude sometimes root doesn't install properly i don't know why... I am on stock with 1.4Ghz oc kernel... Thing happens to me is that whenever i reboot my phone. Root stops working and says su binary needs to be updated.. I just have reinstall again and again to keep it working after boot.. So do u have any to solve it?

MukulGamer said:
Dude sometimes root doesn't install properly i don't know why... I am on stock with 1.4Ghz oc kernel... Thing happens to me is that whenever i reboot my phone. Root stops working and says su binary needs to be updated.. I just have reinstall again and again to keep it working after boot.. So do u have any to solve it?
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For me root still work even on reboot. To root my phone, i flashed SuperSU.zip with custom recovery twrp. How about you? Did you using same thing like me or by apps like KingRoot.apk?

GuestStar said:
You wanted to root again hah? Flash SuperSU.zip (based on my knowledge stock LL cannot/hard to root withe root.apk like kingroot. So, i think the latest tricks is flash the supersu.zip) but still... if you are Advanced User if not dont trying it
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Yup obviously.. By SU... I never use kingroot... Well i know it shouldn't have happened... Btw fresh rom install will solve it.. But i don't wanna do that.. Setting up phone again and again suks.. I just asked it because i thought if you might have had this problem! Thanks btw

To clear things up. Think of root as a system module (binary) ("su" module located in "xbin"). Each time you install a new OS, core partitions need to be formated (/cache, /data, and ofc /system). If the SuperUser module is not pre-installed in the new firmware you are flashing, it can be additionally obtained through Chainfire's installation zip. Nearly all custom ROMs have it and will work just fine, with some needing user input to activate it (Settings > Dev Settings > Root Access). While stock ROMs will NEVER have root capabilities pre-loaded.
So, all in all:
No, there is no such thing and will never be, as permanent root. Everything is being overwritten all the time.
Rooting and re-rooting the A6000 is safe and easy.

Root problem (full root not systemless)

Hi, so I was trying to get full root not only system less root on j730gm and what i followed here to rooted mobile witj twrp first(boot.img patched), then after that full unroot (keep boot.img patched) and in twrp gave command and install super su zip again and this time logs clearly showed system method while rooting, after all that I am getting bootloop. Mobile is hang on samsung logo, tried reset with twrp and official recovery both. Can some one tell me where i did mistake or where is the problem. My only requirement is to root this mobile and make super user app as system app. Even after hard reset mobile should stay rooted. Any help would be much appreciated.
Br
Zish

zishhaider said:
Hi, so I was trying to get full root not only system less root on j730gm and what i followed here to rooted mobile witj twrp first(boot.img patched), then after that full unroot (keep boot.img patched) and in twrp gave command and install super su zip again and this time logs clearly showed system method while rooting, after all that I am getting bootloop. Mobile is hang on samsung logo, tried reset with twrp and official recovery both. Can some one tell me where i did mistake or where is the problem. My only requirement is to root this mobile and make super user app as system app. Even after hard reset mobile should stay rooted. Any help would be much appreciated.
Br
Zish
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I don't understand your goal?
Systemless root IS full root. Your terminology is incorrect.
SuperSU doesn't really support system root on Android 7.
I also dont see the point of making SuperSU a system app. Even though its rather pointless if that is all you require for whatever strange reason then you can just move the Supersu app to the system partition.
There is a better way to stay rooted after a hard reset and it's called FRP.

First there is nothing strange in stay rooted after hard reset, trust me. My friend use this mobile. He needs root for lucky patcher. When first he came to me I rooted it via twrp and after couple of days he came back with custom binary block option and plus he doesn't remember newly created gmail id pass. For me it was hell of a job. So i decided to root it permanently. I am not an expert though but my point was to take full root instead of systemless root. Thanks for clearing that 7.0 isn't supported for full system root. I saw here a rom stock dexoded and pre rooted. Is it better option to install it rather than stock rom?

See this link, i was trying to do the same
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...om-systemless-root-to-system-traditional-root

zishhaider said:
See this link, i was trying to do the same
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...om-systemless-root-to-system-traditional-root
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Like I already stated Factory Reset Protection (FRP) is already built in to SuperSU.
Just do the following in a terminal then re-install SuperSU:
echo "FRP=true">>/data/. supersu
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Completely uninstall root access without wiping phone?

I want to completely uninstall root access temporarily. I have Magisk installed with a custom kernel. Is there a way I can completely remove root access without wiping my whole phone. Will doing so also keep the current kernel or revert to the stock kernel. Please advise. Thank you!

akinkoff85 said:
I want to completely uninstall root access temporarily. I have Magisk installed with a custom kernel. Is there a way I can completely remove root access without wiping my whole phone. Will doing so also keep the current kernel or revert to the stock kernel. Please advise. Thank you!
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1. Download the latest OTA.zip for your device.
2. Install it with System Updater and reboot.
This method should remove your custom kernel and root.