As the video says I came across this bug while trying to play some racing games on N64oid and PSX4droid, but I would keep slowing to a stop and didn't really understand why.
So I installed some multi-touch test apps to see what was going on. The bug is kind of hard to explain, thats why I made a video, but the touchscreen becomes unresponsive for a second and then confused the next.
Anyway here is the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=eQblG7OxABk
So is this a bug anyone else has come across? Does it have anything to do with the Atrix only having a maximum of 2 touch points?
This is very frustrating when playing certain games in emulators. Is there anyway to fix this?
Having similar problems today as I was playing GunBros. Pretty annoying.
Sent from my Atrix via XDA App
I haven't played any games where I hold hold down multi touch. I wonder if a lot of people are having this issue.
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I just ran the first and last one you did and yea I had the same issues. Have you posted on the motorola support forums about it? https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/motoblur-android/atrix4g?view=overview
If you don't want to sign up for that forum I'd gladly link this over there and post up the issue for you.
No I did not post this over at Motorola. If you wouldn't mind doing that, that would be great. Also once you do can you make sure to post a link to the thread here, so we can follow it?
I hope Motorola fixes this soon. If not then hopefully the experts over here at XDA finds some sort of fix.
I did not post this over at Motorola because I have had bad experiences with phone developer companies before and with my experience they don't really care. I hope Motorola is different and proves me wrong.
This is a big issue since this device is made to be a gaming device. A lot of games like gun bros have this kind of gameplay layout and this makes it very frustrating to play.
The limited multi-touch is also an issue for many games, but that is another topic.
Arichman said:
No I did not post this over at Motorola. If you wouldn't mind doing that, that would be great. Also once you do can you make sure to post a link to the thread here, so we can follow it?
I hope Motorola fixes this soon. If not then hopefully the experts over here at XDA finds some sort of fix.
I did not post this over at Motorola because I have had bad experiences with phone developer companies before and with my experience they don't really care. I hope Motorola is different and proves me wrong.
This is a big issue since this device is made to be a gaming device. A lot of games like gun bros have this kind of gameplay layout and this makes it very frustrating to play.
The limited multi-touch is also an issue for many games, but that is another topic.
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Looks like some one already has posted it on the motorola support site. Here is a link to it
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47362?tstart=0
the original post has a link to this one along with a link to your youtube clip.
i have this problem too. i thought it was just the game. its happened in gun bros and dd
hopefully its just a software issue
Yep have this bug in every multi-touch game. Some games (jetcar stunts) can make you start over while others I just wait a second and it's good.
It doesn't last that long with me though, probably because I don't continue tapping. I stop all touches for a second and then its usually good to go.
By far should be a priority for Motorola or someone to fix though.
Already a thread here about this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000583
Already a thread on this EXACT question, closed.
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I have noticed in a couple of threads that there seems to be a large amount of, shall i say, lazy people.
Neglecting to use the search function, disrespecting others who are fed up answering the same questions again and again.
It seems they can't (or are simply to lazy to) read, use the search button or even common sense
Well i recall a small little flash movie i saw once upon a time on the steam forums. After a little searching with my mate GOOGLE i found it again.
No Reason for lazy people now No Reading involved, just sit back and watch this little "movie"
Ok, ok before anyone starts flaming me with crap like (but thats about the steam forums blabla) The Information affects every forum as everyone of them also has a search function
It's a bit to big to post here, but i guess even the newest noob knows how to use a link
http://www.ptokax.ch/posting.html
Hopefully we can keep the Threads a little bit less bloated now ?!?
hmm 105 views and not a single reply (good or bad)
i must of hit the spot then looks like a few here got a bad conscience? hehe
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Is it ok if I add this to my signature??
ive said this before and ended up getting flamed by angry noobs accusing me of being "elitist"
Great video!!
!! Do I have permission to post on other forums? I'm admin. on several, lmk, Thanks,, I will give you credit,,,,Quig
that is the best think i have seen on the internet. KUDOS
Nice and certainly CLEAR!
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indeed feel free to use
Good hearty belly laugh!
A bit before my time but, all that film needed was an old lady
at an organ and an usher with a flashlight. Maybe even an
couple of old men yelling from the balcony!
No really, it was great.
Keep up the good work!
Wonderful & Entertaining!
This is a very useful and entertaining film - it would be great if you could make it required watching with every new registration.
I believe the REAL issue is that people don't know how to best perform searches by utilizing keywords. Say I'm having an issue with my z plantronics bluetooth headset on my HTC HD2 Leo phone - providing all the relevant search terms, model numbers, etc an including "xda dev" (or other forums) can put you where you need to be better than "plantronics headset". And using googles image link can help you determine your model - a picture is worth a million web pages. My, hopefully relevant, contribution.
Ok,
I see this raging debate about the 30FPS and I am starting to wonder what I might be missing in the discussion.
So, leaving out the issue of 'but it could be so much faster' (yes I know that is difficult for some techies...), why do I care? I am your average smart phone user. I am not a power user and only game I'd care to have on phone would be maybe my old Might and Magics (but havent even considered looking to see if that is possible).
I use GPS, camera, (video would be a bonus but if I really want I'll use my panasonic lumix), phone, email, internet, texting (SMS & MMS).
Now I do notice that if my finger moves too fast on lock screen I lose the locker and it goes back into place. Is that a frame rate issue? Don't know, but seems to work for me to just slow down my unlock swipe.
Please let me know if there is some black hole I do not see about this FPS issue. To me it is like computer builds....do people overclock and could my machine go faster? Yep...but do I even care? Not really, it works for my current gaming use of Forgotten Realms stuff and should work for Dragon Age when that price comes down far enough for me. When I need a faster computer I'll build one...figure if this phone makes it for next 1.5-2 years with it's current setup I am pretty good.
My Evo is lickety split fast. This 30fps is a tempest in a teapot.
There is like 5 topics on this filled with information that already answers all of your question.
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There is like 5 topics on this filled with information that already answers all of your question.
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There are 5 topics that go off into rants and hatin and they all talk about WHY it COULD be faster. I have yet to really figure out why the regular user should care.
I mean what I 'gather' is that some gamers find they want the phone to run as fast as their xbox. Well it's not a xbox and not even a psp. So if that is what is upsetting people...then I just ask for clarification.
If there is another actual smart phone function that is severly crippled by this FPS...then I am missing it.
So...I have looked at those threads...as long as they seemed productive. They do not answer MY question which is...what things specifically are impacted by the FPS issue? And in association with that, what should an average smartphone user care about?
Looking at all the vids of performance and all the numbers have been helpful in 'showing' that this exists. If you don't want to help, no need to bother with this thread...go read others.
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There is like 5 topics on this filled with information that already answers all of your question.
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yeah...and if the fps cap has no relevance to you, then why are you making a whole other thread dedicated to it, when we already have a ton... People like you make absolutely no sense and (no offense) I feel are a big part of whats wrong in society today... people with no "common"-sense.
I wanna be able to run the PSX emulator for Android that ZoTTD is working on when it comes out (hopefully this month, FF7 FTW!) and I am doubtful 30 FPS will cut it. Emulators are the only gaming I care about, personally.
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yeah...and if the fps cap has no relevance to you, then why are you making a whole other thread dedicated to it, when we already have a ton... People like you make absolutely no sense and (no offense) I feel are a big part of whats wrong in society today... people with no "common"-sense.
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I don't think there's any reason to attack, I think he has a valid question. He is basically saying he likes his phone and it fulfills his needs, but what is it exactly that he would get daily use out of that he is missing with the FPS cap. This is the General thread where it belongs after all, at least he didn't post this in Development...
sablesurfer said:
There are 5 topics that go off into rants and hatin and they all talk about WHY it COULD be faster. I have yet to really figure out why the regular user should care.
I mean what I 'gather' is that some gamers find they want the phone to run as fast as their xbox. Well it's not a xbox and not even a psp. So if that is what is upsetting people...then I just ask for clarification.
If there is another actual smart phone function that is severly crippled by this FPS...then I am missing it.
So...I have looked at those threads...as long as they seemed productive. They do not answer MY question which is...what things specifically are impacted by the FPS issue? And in association with that, what should an average smartphone user care about?
Looking at all the vids of performance and all the numbers have been helpful in 'showing' that this exists. If you don't want to help, no need to bother with this thread...go read others.
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INPUT LAG!!
that is my issue with the 30fps and it goes away when I apply the hack! Thats just me though..
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yeah...and if the fps cap has no relevance to you, then why are you making a whole other thread dedicated to it, when we already have a ton... People like you make absolutely no sense and (no offense) I feel are a big part of whats wrong in society today... people with no "common"-sense.
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WOW....I am what is wrong with society? Person who actually does research, who digs into issues, who weighs pros and cons, and looks for more information before making a decision?
I am what is wrong with society when I do not instantly fall into the current tempest/furor/infotainment/news crisis and actually want to think through it before I decide it it is even worth my time?
That is what is wrong with society???
WOW...thank you. I did not think I could be amazed by anything today. You rank right up there because instead of just continuing on with your day you took the time to actually post a very judgemental post and reach out to deliberatly swing at someone you do not know...showing your true colors for me.
Input lag and emulators...got it.
Input lag....I assume you mean on typing and screen movements?
Emulators...I love the idea and that is kinda what I wondered from most of the discussions.
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WOW....I am what is wrong with society? Person who actually does research, who digs into issues, who weighs pros and cons, and looks for more information before making a decision?
I am what is wrong with society when I do not instantly fall into the current tempest/furor/infotainment/news crisis and actually want to think through it before I decide it it is even worth my time?
That is what is wrong with society???
WOW...thank you. I did not think I could be amazed by anything today. You rank right up there because instead of just continuing on with your day you took the time to actually post a very judgemental post and reach out to deliberatly swing at someone you do not know...showing your true colors for me.
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I didn't mean to offend you but it just makes absolutely no sense to start anther entire thread over an issue that you don't even care for. If you KNOW your thread has and will not gather any productive information, then why the heck are you posting... It seems like you just want your two cents voiced, so that you can feel relevant... And correct me if I am wrong. But wouldn't you agree that people without the slightest bit of common sense or logical reasoning are what is wrong with the world today?
and I commented on your post because I am getting tired of this wonderful and helpful forum being turned into a scapegoat for egomaniacs who don't give a damn about productivity and just want to type non-sense at their keyboard and hope that others believe they know what they are talking about.
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and I commented on your post because I am getting tired of this wonderful and helpful forum being turned into a scapegoat for egomaniacs who don't give a damn about productivity and just want to type non-sense at their keyboard and hope that others believe they know what they are talking about.
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No disrespect, but what productivity did you add to this thread?
starplaya93 you need a hug.
(and I do not mean that in any kind of sarcastic way.)
This site and these forums have been 90% of my research on the new phone, I appreciate everyone that posts constructive stuff here. These forums helped me get rid of all the AT&T bloatware on my Raphael.
Sorry you feel my post rubbed you the wrong way, but I can guarantee that there are other newbs of all forms that would see your post and never participate. Me I got tuffer skin as I have lived on investment forums for the last 15 years or so...you want flaming fight add politics to investment.
Anyway, I still am very interested in my question...and think pulling the exact issues from all the scattered threads (which address hating the cap and how to fix) into one thread of why it is an issue is worthwhile.
Oh well...as they say...ymmv.
sablesurfer said:
Input lag and emulators...got it.
Input lag....I assume you mean on typing and screen movements?
Emulators...I love the idea and that is kinda what I wondered from most of the discussions.
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Input lag is an issue that affects ALL evo users, not just gamers.
There is a full half second delay when scrolling up and down. You can try it yourself in the Settings app, just swipe your finger up or down real fast and the screen lags behind your finger's movement.
Its really lame, especially for a phone this powerful.
It's not just the fps. The input frequency is lowered as well. So, not only does scrolling through menus look blurry and doesn't follow your finger very well, there's also a lag behind it to begin with. The touch frequency is 30Hz, and the display rate is 30fps. Those two combined creates a visually disgusting appearance. Because the hardware is capable of much more is NOT the reason we're pissed off; that's just more reason to justify why it should be doing what we expect. Would you buy a 1080p 55" LCD for $2000 if it showed all your blu-rays at 12fps? I certainly wouldn't.
hmmm
Ive been reading XDA for a while just never posted anything... Im sorry but sablesurfer didnt do anything wrong.. I see a fight starting now.... lol
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It's not just the fps. The input frequency is lowered as well. So, not only does scrolling through menus look blurry and doesn't follow your finger very well, there's also a lag behind it to begin with. The touch frequency is 30Hz, and the display rate is 30fps. Those two combined creates a visually disgusting appearance. Because the hardware is capable of much more is NOT the reason we're pissed off; that's just more reason to justify why it should be doing what we expect. Would you buy a 1080p 55" LCD for $2000 if it showed all your blu-rays at 12fps? I certainly wouldn't.
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I know you have been working on this also..so are you returning the phone or are you confident this will get ironed out? I'm just asking for your personal opinion.
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I know you have been working on this also..so are you returning the phone or are you confident this will get ironed out? I'm just asking for your personal opinion.
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I'd rather not give my personal opinion because people will probably take it as facts.
What I will tell you is that I do not see any evidence in the kernel of specific instructions for the supersonic to throttle the fps, whether it be halting refresh or alternating the framebuffer. This is not to say that it's not there; I just haven't found it yet. Everything is a little confusing because we don't have the official source, and even without the HDMI drivers, it's still throttled, meaning that it can't be the HDMI driver code stealing the frames.
To answer your question, I probably will not return the phone. I still love it.
This thread absolutely applies to me. I have tried to follow a few of the others on this topic, but they quickly became overly technical or a sounding board for anyone that has to find fault.
Cicatrize - Thank you for the concise answer to the question. I am not a "superuser" of this phone, yet, but agree that the delayed input is a bit bothersome. It's good to know that THAT is the outcome that effects me most.
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This thread absolutely applies to me. I have tried to follow a few of the others on this topic, but they quickly became overly technical or a sounding board for anyone that has to find fault.
Cicatrize - Thank you for the concise answer to the question. I am not a "superuser" of this phone, yet, but agree that the delayed input is a bit bothersome. It's good to know that THAT is the outcome that effects me most.
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Agreed. It became even more bothersome to me last night when my buddy's ancient G1 was smoother than my phone. He actually noticed it before I had a chance to tell him. He said it looked choppy and blurry when swiping desktops and scrolling. The input lag seemed to really annoy him too.
Sent from my HTC EVO using the XDA app.
Thanks OP for starting this thread. I was wondering the same thing
I sent several complaints to htc and got response from different reps.
Rep#1
"Thank you for your reply. You are correct that the Sprint EVO 4G is locked in at 30FPS. Since the HTC EVO 4G employs a unique HDMI output to deliver video in HD quality to an external display, the hardware graphics driver interface on the HTC EVO 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This is a hardware, and not a software, limitation. It’s important to keep in mind that content including most movies and television, are created to run at between 24 and 30 frames per second. The 30FPS is a hardware limitation. This should not present a major issue for most Android applications; however, the customer may have some issues with some 2D or 3D applications. We have also found that some games may be impacted by this limitation.
The device has been locked at 30 FPS due to enhance overall performance in the device. By lowering the FPS of the device the CPU works less. This increases the battery life of the device. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions. I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experience."
Rep#2
"Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your comment regarding the fps of your HTC EVO 4G. I understand how important it is for your device to function to your specifications and I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
We are investigating the viability of claims that the limitation of 30fps can be overcome by software changes. As soon as we finish our investigations, HTC will announce its findings. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions.
If we can be of further assistance with setting up your sync program, please don’t hesitate to call 1.866.449.8358. We are available Sunday through Saturday 6:00 a.m. until 1:00."
Its htc really trying to find a solution or are they just full of it?
What do you think?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Please.... This belongs in the general section.
really really wish mods would temp ban people for this
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Please.... This belongs in the general section.
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really really wish mods would temp ban people for this
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i feel like this is a development issue thats is why it was posted here so if you are not a moderator and cant help me move it to general. keep it to your self. im just trying to input some info for all the evo owners that are in question by this. " if im worng by putting this here this can always be deleted and posted somewhere else.
Yeah but if you actually read other sections on this site your responses have already been given to other people by HTC. These are not new, we have heard them before. This really should have been rolled in to the other pre existing threads. Why would you not post it in the general section and ask if it should be placed in development? I think I know the answer to my own question....
Sent from my evo using XDA App
Darn, I was hoping it was something new from them.
Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
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mlin said:
Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
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Do you really want to know?
Well this is a development forum. There is a slightly higher standard here and if you can't follow some basic rules then you have no business posting here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695844
Those are pretty clear to me. Pretty easy to follow for anyone with a brain stem. No one expects perfection or you to write source code the fastest but at least read the ****ing directions and follow the basic rules of our home.
This had no business getting posted in development, it has no business in general when there is a massive 600 something or whatever posts on this exact same crap. Not to mention multiple other scattered threads.
Best part is there is already a hacked solution to this with working camera / everything else working, that at least for now is more than enough. So anyone that really gives a **** already has the fix and this isn't even an issue.
Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.
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Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.
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I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
It's all good..
I don't think tech knowledge is the issue here and in other threads. I think the issue is forum etiquette. And on a tech/informative forum, the standard should be a little higher than that of a lounge type forum. People should have informative titles (which this one does). Posts should go in the relevant thread (possibly an issue on this one). Searches should be made before making any new thread. And content should be relevant, accurate, and informative (I'm guilty of that first with regards to this post). It can be a delicate balance between over regulation and under regulation. The forums with the highest signal to noise ratio tend to be over regulated but there is such a thing as going too far and pissing off your membership.
There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.
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There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.
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Hahaha... I bet you're talking about elitistjerks.com
Please. Just get over yourselves. It's a good thing that new people are coming to the forums. That means the Android community is growing and moving into more mainstream. Educate and direct people... don't spank them. Otherwise, you'll send them right back to their friendly iPhone forums.
Sounds to me like some 35 year old men need to get out of their moms basement and meet people face to face and learn how to treat others.
Holier than thou attitudes will run people away and along with that the innovation that comes with new ideas. I've been in many environments where a closed loop could not resolve an important issue because they were addressing the issue as they always have. It took someone new looking at the problem, with different experiences, in order to resolve the issue in the best possible way, if you don't like it, or your pride gets hurt, then you probably don't need to be part of the team.
I have also known people who could give Einstein a run for his money, but because they lacked the people skills, they couldn't get in with any major position enough where people would listen, they usually got sent to the corner of R&D and played with obscure possibilities.
As you can tell, I hate arrogance, and because I don't post much in this forum, doesn't mean I can't kick your ass in every other aspect of technology, worldly issues, and life in general.... So put down the mountain dew, and get up out of the basement, and maybe just maybe, you'll find that your high horse isn't high at all.
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I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
It's all good..
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100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!
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100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!
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Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!
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Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!
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lol, I know, the Teletack 250 was the first cellphone i could afford back in Venezuela 10 years ago or so, the next one whas my first phone here in the states with Voice Stream.
Lol wow... This forum is full of it... Higher standard? On the Internet? Lol....hilarious...
rotflmfao
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720242
as we all know ,fake multi touch can zoom in and zoom out pefect now.however i would like to play games with multitouch.can dev make a new kernel with a real multi touch as big x10? i hope it come soonly.
1. read around. they ARE making a custom kernel. there's no need to ask if they can and u hope it will be done soon. everyone hopes that too.
2. doixanh already explained that our screens only have ONE sensor, so even with custom kernel multitouch might not be possible.
3. almost everyone who games on the x8 want multitouch.
so... be patient. the devs have real life obligations which are more important than cracking our phones. they're not doing this as a job
P.S: there's a sticky for this topic. i believe this thread will get locked very soon
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1. read around. they ARE making a custom kernel. there's no need to ask if they can and u hope it will be done soon. everyone hopes that too.
2. doixanh already explained that our screens only have ONE sensor, so even with custom kernel multitouch might not be possible.
3. almost everyone who games on the x8 want multitouch.
so... be patient. the devs have real life obligations which are more important than cracking our phones. they're not doing this as a job
P.S: there's a sticky for this topic. i believe this thread will get locked very soon
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Nice post even with 9 post you did sush a good post. Nice.
Also we is fuking right stop posting this again and again. If you play any HD games check the thread i have posted a solution at the last page for assassins creed.
/req close this and the one he posted in developers section
hehe. tks. i may have low post count but i read a lot. also i'm a member of a few other forums for many years already so my low post count don't really mean anything other that i'm not really contributing to the community
Multiple Questions -
Would like a solution for all of them but will be researching on my own and posting updates about what I find as well. I want to begin by first asking you for your patience, and Thanking you for everything you guys do here at XDA. I sctually feel kinda cool, being a part of it. I cant wait to learn and master the world of Android and use it in my career field - Technology - IT
Also, trying to start a new discussion thread. (after my questions are closed out finished here, Id like to see it become a place where people come and are looking for a general place to look at cool ideas for your Android and PS3 and what you can do with them together. First, since I looked at all my questions and found sever closely worded scenarios that weren't what I wanted, You need a little background on me and the actual scenarios to get the full grip.
Okay, here it is. Ive been looking for a= for all the cool things I could do with my Android (Droid X2 - 2.3.5/Rooted- Eclipse 2.0.4) that involved my new PS3. I just got the PS3 and I was a hardcore Playstion fan since my early childhood. My first console as a matter of fact, was the PS1 with Gran Turismo 1. And while looking through the OS3's capabilities, I was Astounded... Yes you may like the Xbox 360 and I will give you that it is a very good gaming system that has many great and popular games (and you can play music saved on the local HD whilst you play {I havent quite gotten that done yet on the PS3 but I hope to.}) The Sony is much more.. You can do many interesting and by definition awesome things via Networking, Bluetooth, Internet, etc.. I recently graduated with my Assoc. in Networking and Im always thinking of all the things I need to make happen and what all will be required to preform, thus my occupation as a Network Admin (a beginner, but with excellent troubleshooting skills and quick learning). I hope to go back and BS in it as well and eventually master it (I want mo money) but while I am in my BS program, along with some other essential Cert's I will be needing, I want to completely and thouroughly learn the Android world and get a cert in it. I love the Android technology and capability.. :0 So, instead of reading forum after forum, like I usually do, Ive decided to join many of these forums and actually start, I figure you help me, I help you, we all get better. And, I'll be able to ask specific things, in my own words and have intelligent, Android users/devs to answer me and teach me (something Google cannot do.)
Now that you have a background on me (cause you may see me a lot), I must digress and get o with it. After Running through all the forums looking up ideas for my Droid X2 and how to use it to do a ton of cool things with my PS3, I will admit I had my heart set on a few specific things, but I found that there are a few threads about these kind of things and some are duplicate and there isn't a lot said.. Im opening this thread to get an answer to a few good questions of mine and then to leave it open for a discussion thread for anyone looking for the same kinda stuff one day so itll be all here, instead of way out in the cloud in bajillions of different places..
So, FIRST: I wanted to save a little money on a Playstation 3 remote (the one you use to wathc movies, like a T.V. remote) and use my android somehow via an app communicating with the Sony via bluetooth, network (since my phone is rooted and basically on the same Network as the Sony) anything. Is there anything like this out there? I am in the process of researching CM for the Droid X2 and Im learning about it, apparently the only app out there to do this with is Blueput droid I believe and its only $3 in the market but, Im an android/IT/hacker mod kinda guy, as long as its smooth stable and WORKS, and I believe that there is usually always a free way (on most things small like this esp) Blueput came out in beta for free but it only works for certain devices DX2 not being one of them, unless... You have CM7 any and all information about anything In my post would be saved and studied and used to learn with. So I can Own and be like you guys, a developer. So feel free to answer any and all of the trillion things you notice me wondering about and you happen to know or have an idea, I will work with you too} Now, I think CM7 will work on the Dx2 now, Ive been seeing so many people talk about how awesome it is, and that takes me to the second--
SECOND: Cyanogenmod {7} -- I have seen people raving about this, and from what I've gathered its a ROM with certain features. Can anyone tell me why this is so popular and whats so cool about it. Note: I'm also curious to any bugs or issues with the Dx2 as well.. Something good to know BEFORE you tackle a project. However, I thought I remember reading somewhere that there was a problem getting CM onto the x2 because of the Bootloader was locked {and still is according to what I read} I know that I may not seem like a computer idiot, I am capable and I can learn anything, but Im about to ask a stupid question, but I wont know til I ask so, will someone attach a link or something tell me in human words, what the boot loader actually is or does? My learning method was usually from the ground up and when I learn all the angles of something I can effectively troubleshoot or combine technollgies to make some cool capability, I should know what a damn bootloader is by now, but whatchya gonna do... *Face Palm
THIRD: Ok so this one is IMPORTANT -- I just got the PS3 and ofcourse I got Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3. {Black ops has that cool zombie level you play to pass time with friends or when you're baking up some good *greens the delicious way lol but it was $30 bucks already and MW3 was still 60 and more popular and IMO one of the best ever made to date, and thats considering all games in my lifetime, back to the 90's. So what I wanted to do is somehow use my phone as a head set for the Sony in MW3 so I could talk to the people {I can hear them when they talk and its pretty funny lol} Until just recently I didnt know that online play with the Sony was free.. *Face Palm again... So I immediately got on and started getting my own ass placed at my feet bu children..... I then found that you can hack the game, but I couldnt find any of the hacks online except one password protected rar folder that my rar password recovery program will take it 30 years to crack... smdh I would assume that linux has a method that is MUCH faster. Not that I want to cheat, just use on the campers. and other lobbies full of actual hackers that cheat.. My sole intention is to get very well off at the game and just do free for all. awaiting better stats..
When I looked into this one, I see no hope; but thats where the gurus can help. I know that the Sony and my x2 both use Bluetooth 2.0 but I did see something someone said that the Droid cannot be used as a mic There has to be a way. If not Bluetooth the over the Network or internet or something! Anyways, yeah, that was top priority when I thought of it.
Blueput Droid and CM7 I believe give me the ability to use my phone as a wireless mouse and keyboard, If so then awesome. I still want the DVD Player remote (like the tv remote) function.
I know that the headset or something like it, has to exist. I've even been as far as to say that if I used a remote desktop app (in Android it may be ssh or something, if Im right and remember it being, different and weird.) and when you are in control of said dev, you have access to the system, your external devices such as USM and even, the microphone {tada!} would be an input for the machine I was remoted into. Anyway, I also through the network out their (LAN) bc of DroidMote Beta and that with that capability out there, I know I can remote play my PS3 with a PSP and probably a Rooted android, if so, I can join the Dualshock3 controller to my phone, and then I can play it on my phone with the controller, and using the mic, and speakers and screen! and having said all of this.. A book for goodness sakes.. I may also just be crazy. and wrong, which I am not afraid to admit.
Now I know that this was EXTREMELY long winded, as Im sure you can tell that I took my medicine this morning lol this is one add man that is not hindered by the slow, sluggish effects of having ADD. So, excusing my massive post, I hope that I have started a very useful thread that will attract other posters in the future and will evolve into a PS3:Android discussion forum, saving oodles of people time when searching for this fantastic sorcery I hope I have helped and contributed, as I plan to do for all of you as I can.
Given the information above and the questions I had swarming around that I put on this post, could you help me with these? Thank you in advanced for all that spend their time on this. I appreciate all the work Ive seen you do in the years past and now Im here to help as well.
PS: Since you know I am not to new to forums, meaning that Ive read them ALOT and know how they work basically, I never actually participated (How weak of me; what a drain) So I may not have the method down quite right. I will remember to keep the post's smaller than this one and post in the right place. I am open and begging for any and all tips and information on the forum, Android, and the inquiries above. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!