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SONY ERICCSON HAS SAID THEY ARE GOING TO START ROLL UP UPDATES FOR THE X10 BUT NO MENTION OF OTHER RELEASE XPERIA PRODUCTS. THIS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED BY OWNERS POSTING COMMENTS ON THE SONY ERICCSON FORUMS
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/commun...sionid=9C035449AFE913DDBAFBC51904921490.node0
go on here and write about your disappointment
the x10 2.3.3 is a good start as devs can develop a rom for our x8 but we want a better x8 original. just go on that link and complain about how frustrated you are!
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/
X8
The X8 is a fantastic handset and with its 600 processor it can definitely have the 2.3.3 android software
Don't worry. X8 custom roms are faster than original one.
I don't even care anymore about "official", I love my Floyo
I'am actually looking at the work xda devs do on products before buying them, like seriously I don't even care about company support anymore. They all stop at some point.
Yes but if se release 2.2 or 2.3 this will help devs to make their roms even better, faster.
I was realy disapointed when I buy my phone(it is my first android, and i was an idiot in the android world) when i watch it on gsmarena.com I fell in love with the phone When I started to get to know about android and when I read no 2.2 update, i was realy disapionted...I'd like to buy me an HTC device, that fully works everything (even the MIUI rom) I'm just using CMmini 2.2, and it's a realy good rom, but the interface (I love the stock launcher from Eclair)
Just wait that someone form the developers make MIUI rom compatiable on mdpi devices(like ours x8)
Doomguy said:
Don't worry. X8 custom roms are faster than original one.
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we've already got the 2.3
I was just wondering how many developers are using an Arc? (with developers i mean rom cookers)
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wanted to post in general but was on the wrong tab
Ditto on this one, anything that springs to mind for future projects
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I was more wondering what happens if we have root, ublocked bootloader. i am sure the arc has more horse power than what it has now. Maybe it's tme to learn how to build roms, i'm a Linux user so it doesn't have to be hard .
It would be great to see cyanogenmod on the arc or just tweaks to the OEM rom.
Hopefully all the X10 devs + some N1/Desire devs will come here.
All I know is that Paul from modaco is waiting like us the ''password'' to unlock his Play, knowing it's the same File System and protections he will produce exellent roms for us.
CM7 and MIUI will surelly be adapted.
I don't think the scenario of X10 will be repeated, many devs were willing to work on custom roms but the phone was locked for a several months so they abandoned and swaped their x10.
As for the ARC it all depends on SE, sooner they release the keys and better are the chances to get many roms, the more they wait and the less devs will support the Arc ...
It will be great to see great roms on the ARC like CM7 and MIUI. so all we have to do is wait on the unlocked bootloader. hope to see it get released soon
For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
vegetaleb said:
For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
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I think the bootloader will be locked, thats what it looks like. i just read tweets from paul about bootloader
here:
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835519924637696
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835680818147328
and here
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835930786074624
So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
vegetaleb said:
So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
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That would be great though there a lot devs with LG2X i had to choose between SE and LG but then i thought nice thing but it's LG
now HTC is locking everything devs would look at other phones. the Arc, Play and Neo are similar so i think if one has a custom rom porting it to another wouldn't be that hard
All im interested in atm is rooting
So does anyone have any idea of when we will get it rooted?
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On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
vegetaleb said:
On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
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No no, June is summer...end of May, TOPS!
I hope this time they will keep their promise and no postpone at all!
How many time they postponed release of phones,FW updates...?
But here if they want SE Arc to be a success even among dual core phones they should release the root before SGS2 enter the market because this one will be rooted in 24h
That´s true! Sony Ericsson MUST do this! Does the unlocked bootloader means root?
No but unlocking the bootloader means we can use fastboot command, any good dev can then build a root method in a couple of minutes or hours.
If Amon Ra and clockwork recoveries are implemented it's even better,we can then backup,wipe,format partitions to ext 2-3-4...on the phone itself exactly like on nexus one and desire
Custom Kernels will follow too,increasing battery life or overcloacking the cpu...
This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
vegetaleb said:
This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
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I had sworn never to install a custom ROM ever again since I really need my phone for my business and I messed up my Xperia X1 several times...
But reading this... Tempting... Must... Stay... away...
AArrrrgghhhhhh!!!!!!
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
Mooozer said:
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
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Hope so, want to see root and CM7
Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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He also unlocked his xperia play, soon soon we will have root, roms, kernels haha
does anyone know if the xperia arc kernel has been released?
I had an Arc for 1 month, I really liked it but I couldn't live without a variety of custom roms
I am now on Sensation and thinking about the Xperia S (sorry no proper section yet),this upcoming phone is totally awesome in both look and features, BUT I am afraid XDA devs will not be interested again...
Though I think the only way to make it sexy for them is that:
-Sony send a free device(s) to known devs team like CM,Virtuous,MIUI,Modaco...
If you have other ideas then throw them here
Sony gave Arc and Arc S to CM devs, so don't complain
Developement is harder on SE devices than on for example on HTC decices from what I've heard - that's the reason why we don't have that much devs
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Sony Ericsson always used quite a lot of special hardware, especially when it comes to camera sensors. It's always been a challenge for developers to get those to work on custom roms.
The problem in 2011 is that there was too much time between the hardware release and the availability of certain sources and the bootloader unlock.
If they make sure the Xperia S can be unlocked right away and the sources are available fast then we might get a lot of development going on.
Then again, Sony doesn't care that much, the vast majority of users doesn't even root, so they focus mainly on the stock ROMs. And they are the best of all stock ROMs. By far. And the default software on the 2012 looks to be extremely good and complete.
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
fajarep said:
I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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Imo, they totally do.
You could check this e.g.
IMO SE has tried all hard to support XDA in terms of development let's hope under Sony's management they do the same.
Best way to make them interested is to buy them one with donations.
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It's very hard to turn a hTC dev into a Sony one,though a samsung one is easy because whatever galaxy series are good they lack the higher grade materials used by Sony,specially Xperia S which look like a portable Bravia tv
The X10 gave a bad taste to xda devs, the Arc was not well liked too because it wasn't dual core,but now the xperia S with it's very good CPU,12mp camera and HD screen should be perfect!
They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda and other forums adv spaces,the Google Nexus Prime is very well advertised for exemple,there is a remarquable ''push'' marketing
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They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
vegetaleb said:
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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I think it's because most of the developers was behind Dual core devices like HTC Sensation, Samsung etc. but we are making progress we have a great team of dedicated developers like FreeXperia Team. Now our device is under official CM chart. We have most popular custom ROMs like MIUI, CM and few stock based ROM. Lot of the other custom ROM's I have seen are most based on CM so doesn't make much difference. The exceptions are Oxygen, SuperOSR etc. Those developers are active with Nexus devices.
Unlike other devices Sony is little hard to develop due to heavy customization and hardware. Compared to other manufactures Sony has only few customers. HTC users stay with HTC, Samsung users stays with Samsung devices and upgrade to newer Samsung model but they hardly change from HTC to Samsung etc. So it will take time. I'm guessing by Xperia S release we might see few more developers because now we have more advance hardware people might consider upgrading to Sony. But I'm happy with the development what we have now.
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
dp94 said:
I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
sahibunlimited said:
Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Based on my experience with LG Optimus 2x with unlocked and standard bootloader, it is very easy to bring back brick Optimus 2x by using nvflash/smartflash way. I can mess with partition size without worry about non bootable android device.
And now, android development in Optimus 2x getting rise, many new ROMs get published..
If Sony gives those flexibility with their phone(not to worry about brick phone as long it is related with software), I believe we can really mess with Sony Xperia S
Cheers
DooMLoRD said:
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I agree with DoomLoRD its better to have quality over quantity. Few ROMs but stable, fast, and beautiful instead of bunch of ROMs that hardly have difference from the STOCK one or improve nothing its pointless.
I don't agree with samsung actual users being loyal to the brand, most of sgs2 users are freshly converted people from symbian/bb/iphone to Android.They wanted the best specs from the beginning,though they are a little deceived by the poor plastic and design.SE Arc lacked the dual core and was sold at a high price which made people buy sgs2 instead, the Xperia S packs very good specs(12mp,dual core),superb design and appareantly nice materials!
So unless the sgs3 features quad-core cpu and also 12mp there are big chances to have people switching from sammy to Sony this time.
HTC fans are very loyal to HTC because of the Sense roms and super high quality aluminium materials,but some dudes like me who were SE fans in the past...we can come back to Sony again
Why should SGS II people switch to the Sony Xperia S?!
They should offer the same performance or SGS II should be faster due Exynos.
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SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Bin4ry said:
Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Then I'll pre-order one for sure.
Thanks FXP Team for your great work.
Bin4ry said:
SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Now that we have your "official word" on the matter we all can stop worrying about developer support
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just got this from sonyericsson.
arc got its ICS flavour from sonyericsson. from a service point from now( we use EMMA which is something like ODIN but only for CARE POINTS)
what is your impression guys, will we get it soon our ics for our beloved SGS2?
mariosraptor said:
just got this from sonyericsson.
arc got its ICS flavour from sonyericsson. from a service point from now( we use EMMA which is something like ODIN but only for CARE POINTS)
what is your impression guys, will we get it soon our ics for our beloved SGS2?
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Next phone will be Sony probably.
The fact that producer of Google phones will update the Flagman after competitors done it, woth something in my eyes.... i have heard Sony much more willing to share kernel develop with community... Samsung only if had to do. Throw the born...
Tied a litle of Samy along with sgs2, like Codeworkx sometime want to throw it to trash...
Ps
"When Samsung do Android phones, it does not get Anroidized, the Android gets Samsunginized"...
Kinda rephrase Chack Norris...
Having so brilliant hardware, so boring, bright as a hell with all this Korean sense of tooo lot of colors... be.......
How is that official if it's not being pushed out over their update service? You may have been given a beta firmware.
U may leak it in arc section
BTW Sony Ericsson Officially came on xda and published the beta rom with wifi,bluetooth,radio disabled but a CWM recovery script enabled it...
And they also released the source code!!
Custom kernels,daily driver,etc
Lucky guys they are...
ARC is not the GSII, therefor this thread is off topic.
We will get ICS in March http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_and_galaxy_note_to_get_ics_in_march-news-3752.php
Closed.
I just read over at xperiablog.net, showing a leaked 4.0.4 rom for one of the 2011 devices. maybe a good sign of things to come. here is source http://adfoc.us/423185568398
Info link:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/15/latest-android-4-0-4-build-for-2011-xperia-devices-leaked/
I dunno if your link isn't showing up on my computer or if you accidentally left it off, but upon doing a google search in the last 24 hours, I can say this is news is TRUE in case anyone was wondering... how exciting, hope our awesome developers harp on this soon... although I don't hold out much hope for a CDMA version of the rom as there is no functional ICS rom based on Sony ICS leaks for r800x users yet... I'm just hoping that the reason verizon has not fixed the update to the 2.3.4 firmware is because they are planning and ICS release soon... but let's not kid ourselves, this is Verizon... anyway, exciting news none the less for the GSM r800s... you guys are lucky