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Question about N1 w/o data yet

Hi so i got my N1 today and its pretty awesome but i don't have a data plan yet. My data plan will start affect on 1/24 so i turned off the data sync, bg data, and my location.
My question is i still see the 2g arrows light up every now and then (turned on 2g to save bat.) and i wanted to know will i be charged for data by the size? I have Tmo btw

I'm not too sure but too be on the safe side get on wifi and download the app called APNDroid. It will turn off your 3G and 2G entirely then you can turn it back on when T-Mobile enables your data.

thanks i went and got the app didn't know there was something like that

spypack said:
thanks i went and got the app didn't know there was something like that
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there are tons of apps out there, welcome to the team

International Wifi Calling test

Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?

copter105 said:
Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?
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WiFi calling isn't free.. It is just for people with poor signal.
It still uses your minutes

Master™ said:
WiFi calling isn't free.. It is just for people with poor signal.
It still uses your minutes
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I realize that. But let me rephrase: I would like to be able to use my minutes in another country utilizing wifi but avoiding international roaming charges. Has anyone tested this to see if it is possible?

copter105 said:
I realize that. But let me rephrase: I would like to be able to use my minutes in another country utilizing wifi but avoiding international roaming charges. Has anyone tested this to see if it is possible?
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Ooh... Okay, you could always call & ask T-Mobile..

copter105 said:
Has anyone actually tested out the wifi calling hack by actually going to another country and using it? I am curious because in "airplane mode" the wifi calling app says it will not connect in that mode. I read on the t-mobile site that you should disable data roaming before trying to connect via wifi but that leaves me with a really uneasy feeling. I mean what if it fails? How would you know until you got back to the US and had a ridiculous bill! Your voice antenna remains on? Why does it need that?
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I've used it in France and Germany and it worked fine. There were no surprise charges on my bill.

quadratic said:
I've used it in France and Germany and it worked fine. There were no surprise charges on my bill.
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Thanks for your reply! Just out of curiosity, were you able to accept incoming calls ok?

copter105 said:
Thanks for your reply! Just out of curiosity, were you able to accept incoming calls ok?
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I had incoming calls hard-forwarded directly to voicemail. On T-Mobile, if you're roaming internationally and your phone rings, you'll get charged for one minute even if you let it go to voicemail. I didn't feel like unforwarding every time I got on wifi, so I just left it as is.
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have worked though. I've done it with my BlackBerry on UMA internationally and incoming worked fine.

Disabling 3g only.

OK I have searched in here and for the most part I am finding no helpful information because 90% of you have no desire to disable JUST 3g. The only ones that are concerned are people like myself who have 1 bar of 3g for the majority of the day, whereas edge is providing 3 bars. Its really hard on my battery (and annoying) for my phone to constanly look for 3g only to find 1 bar and maintain it for about 3 minutes, it then defaults to edge again until 5 minutes later it sees that 1 bar of 3g again. This is at my work which has lead lined walls ( I work in Radiology).
I would like to disable 3g and force edge throughout the day. I use wifi at work for data but want to be able to text without it eating up my battery. Can someone please find a way to edit a file in the operation system to allow this?
Just to let you know I have already tried all the widgets available including anycut and none of them are providing this function for me. anycut will give me what appears to be a toggle of "2g networks only" but it actually does nothing, nor does it stick when I exit the setting page. I also tried accessing the menu from the dial pad to force 2g only but the options never stick, nor am I interested in typing *#*#4636#*#* every morning when I get to work. Please help me find a simple solution. Thanks!

I did it only by enabling gsm only in *#*#4636#*#*
Worked for me...now im only on edge

Take the App "Any cut" an put a widget on the desk (UMTS options)
it works.

spline1 said:
Take the App "Any cut" an put a widget on the desk (UMTS options)
it works.
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What am I doing wrong? Inhale used the 4636 method and it never ever changes from h+ to edge . After in change it is ther a special way ton"save" the settings? I back out or hit the home button....very frustrating it works for others but not for me

spline1 said:
Take the App "Any cut" an put a widget on the desk (UMTS options)
it works.
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i did this, and i see the 2g box, checked it, and i still het the H+...wtf?

I dont know. I have H+ and test with "speedtest", i have(kbit 5300)and when I press anycut button (UMTS) I see "E" and have speed of 120 kbits.
when it takes 5-10 seconds to switch

you guys probably need to UNCHECK the option to select the operator automatically in settings, so it doesn't get overridden

franciscojavierleon said:
you guys probably need to UNCHECK the option to select the operator automatically in settings, so it doesn't get overridden
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uder the UMTS options? there is no check box, only the optoion to automattily select operator.

dvigue said:
uder the UMTS options? there is no check box, only the optoion to automattily select operator.
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Jepp, AT&T disable this option.

spline1 said:
Jepp, AT&T disable this option.
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Went home to test the 3g theory, and i always get H+ when i put my phone in the kitchen window. one bar. today, EDGE all the time i was home with full signal. so the 2g Toggle DOES work i guess.....

I can not get the 2g toggle to work at all. Its also strange to me that I can't get any network settings to stick from the dial pad menu either. It seems as if those of us who can't get it to work have a read only network file or something. For those who got it to work, are you on att? What else can you tell us about your phones? What procedure did you go through exactly to get it to work?
I have an att Atrix that is rooted and running that custom Adeo rom from this forum.
I installed the abycut app. Placed bother gsm/umts settings pages from anycut onto one of my desktops, then tried both tick boxes on each to enable 2g only. This did not work. I also went into the extra settings from there and tried to manually set networks and what not and I am just not able to get edge to stick. I have toggled airplane mode after setting them, tried different combinations, and have rebooted the phone.
Has anyone with att got this to work?
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there is a way pls refer to my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464330#post12464330

Not only is that extremely impractical, it flat out doesn't work. The settings won't stick.
Like I said im almost certain my carrier or network folder is read only or something.
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seh6183 said:
Not only is that extremely impractical, it flat out doesn't work. The settings won't stick.
Like I said im almost certain my carrier or network folder is read only or something.
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Use root explorer to switch your folders from ro-r/w

booty hater said:
Use root explorer to switch your folders from ro-r/w
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Don't have root explorer and im at work, but I can try when I get home. Can anyone else test this in the meantime?
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It worked for me all day guys. i NEVER got h+ and same at home. my signal was perfect all day and my battery did better
all i did was i clicked the 2g box, then pressed HOME not back. then did the 4636 thing and seleced GSM ONLY and it stayed all day. i have not tested it after reboot, im sure ill have to do it again, but i am very happy with this....
i also after getting into the UMTS screen disabled "automatic" by searching my providers and selecting ATT. wanted to mention that too...

dvigue said:
It worked for me all day guys. i NEVER got h+ and same at home. my signal was perfect all day and my battery did better
all i did was i clicked the 2g box, then pressed HOME not back. then did the 4636 thing and seleced GSM ONLY and it stayed all day. i have not tested it after reboot, im sure ill have to do it again, but i am very happy with this....
i also after getting into the UMTS screen disabled "automatic" by searching my providers and selecting ATT. wanted to mention that too...
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Was is the any cut app or the 4636 that did it? Can you play around with it and find out please?
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I'm going to blow my brains out.
I just tried 800 combinations of settings using anycut and the 4636 menu and NOTHING WORKS. I tried doing what the last poster said, I tried every setting and then toggled airplane mode, I went info 4636 and even toggled the radio to CDMA! Nothing would force edge. Nothing.
I will pay 1.5 million dollars for an app that toggles:
Off
GPRS only
EDGE only
3G Only
HSPA+ Only
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seh6183 said:
Was is the any cut app or the 4636 that did it? Can you play around with it and find out please?
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i did both. im telling you guys. it worked for me. all day yesterday...

dvigue said:
i did both. im telling you guys. it worked for me. all day yesterday...
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[Q] Can't turn off Mobile Data

Hi,
There's something weird going on with my myTouch. I'll appreciate if someone could explain this.
I have turned off 'Mobile network' but still my mobile network connection seems to come on by itself even when wifi is on.
I've confirmed that its actually turning on by browsing a few webpages. When I look at the setting its 'unchecked'.
I am totally confused. :S
Regards,
Ali Kazmi

smakazmi said:
Hi,
There's something weird going on with my myTouch. I'll appreciate if someone could explain this.
I have turned off 'Mobile network' but still my mobile network connection seems to come on by itself even when wifi is on.
I've confirmed that its actually turning on by browsing a few webpages. When I look at the setting its 'unchecked'.
I am totally confused. :S
Regards,
Ali Kazmi
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do you see an "h" or a "3G" in your bar?

I see an E because I am in Pakistan and we currently have Edge, don't have 3G yet :$

smakazmi said:
I see an E because I am in Pakistan and we currently have Edge, don't have 3G yet :$
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if you see the "E" that means your mobile data is still turned on. You should be able to go to settings > wireless & network > mobile networks > and turn off the data....

that's the problem my friend, its already unchecked :S and I am not a newbie to android
I have had a G1, then a Hero, then HD2 with Android and now myTouch 4G

smakazmi said:
that's the problem my friend, its already unchecked :S and I am not a newbie to android
I have had a G1, then a Hero, then HD2 with Android and now myTouch 4G
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well with only 24 post it's hard to say, and your signature didn't say anything about that....
Did you try turning off and on the Airplane mode?

is that known to help with this issue?

smakazmi said:
is that known to help with this issue?
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Well i'm just asking if you've tried it. I've never had a problem dropping data as soon as i turn it off. But i know AirPlane mode will sever the data connection and voice connection. when you reconnect it should turn on only the voice end of it

Massively increased battery duration

I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?

If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.

teh_lorax said:
If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
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He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.

rogeriorp said:
He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.

teh_lorax said:
Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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It is not shocking but somehow people tend to forget the basics. And it is also unnecessary while on wifi, which is the case and the advice he spoke of.
And I'd go even further and set 3G only with wifi, lollipop tends to switch from wifi to LTE by itself very often.

I've heard of people suggesting switching off wifi when your not using it, but never mobile data. So i just thought it might be a suggestion some people might appreciate. Take it or leave it.
Plus wifi is doing the exact same funtion as mobile data when your connected to it, so your not losing any functionality.
If your rooted you can even get Tasker to do the switch automatically.

This actually doesn't work. The data radio goes I to sleep mode when WiFi is on. Its not just doing its own thing while wood is on.

Definitely working on WiFi enhances battery life enormously but didn't try switching off mobile data

Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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How is this possible? When your wifi radio is connected, the data side is completely disconnected. This is even reported in your 'status'.

I see your point, but all I know is that it definitely is making a large difference for me.
One theory I attributed it with was that with Wifi and Mobile Data switched on the phone is getting a lot more Wake Locks (perhaps doubling up), which in turn could also possibly be preventing the phone going into a Deep Sleep. But as the Wakelock detector app doesn't work any more (unless your rooted), I can't verify this.

Gonna test this out!

The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.

Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously

mrapp said:
I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!

unk3 said:
Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
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First you'll need root and this plugin (make sure to enable external access in the plugin app)
Basically, create a profile that runs whenever you connect to a network (you can leave it blank for all networks or press the search button to choose just your home network).
The entry task would basically wait 10 seconds and then run the plugin choosing wcdma/gsm (auto) as the network mode. Choose then to add an exit task which simply recalls the plugin and chooses the network mode as LTE, wcdma, gsm. You can even add an extra step to each task at the end which has tasker display a toast that you can have say LTE enabled or 3g mode only

BrokenWall said:
The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.

floepie said:
SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.

Tasker can't turn off mobile data since Lollipop update....
Any sugestions?

BrokenWall said:
SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
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No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.

Zammo76 said:
No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
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