[Q] SMS limit per conversation! - Atrix 4G General

Hey guys, I had previously stored my 5000+ sms messages from my XperiaX10 into my Gmail account... After I bought the Atrix4G, when I restored these messages, I saw that just some part of them were restored because there is a limitation of SMS's per conversation in Android 2.2!
Is there ANY way for me to restore ALL my messages back to my phone? Any way to remove that SMS limitation they put (which is 1000 per contact I believe)? If it's through an application (through rooting the phone, anything I can do...?)
Thanks a bunch!

Try the handcent text messaging app. Its free plus will give you a TON of extra features including unlimited inbox limit.
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b14ck0ut said:
Try the handcent text messaging app. Its free plus will give you a TON of extra features including unlimited inbox limit.
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hmm I liked the idea, buuuut I believe Handcent syncs directly from the Messaging App so if the Messaging app doesn't get the restored messages from Gmail, I'm guessing Handcent wouldn't either? It bugged the only time I tried... I could try again, but I don't really know what I'm talking about hehe...
And I've never really used Handcent, how does it work when you receive a message? Do you get 2 notifications? Is it possible to set Handcent as the default messaging app? How does it work?

Gjm127 said:
Hey guys, I had previously stored my 5000+ sms messages from my XperiaX10 into my Gmail account... After I bought the Atrix4G, when I restored these messages, I saw that just some part of them were restored because there is a limitation of SMS's per conversation in Android 2.2!
Is there ANY way for me to restore ALL my messages back to my phone? Any way to remove that SMS limitation they put (which is 1000 per contact I believe)? If it's through an application (through rooting the phone, anything I can do...?)
Thanks a bunch!
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With 5000+ messages, wouldn't you rather leave them in Gmail? At least you could use the search feature in there

Yea wouldn't it be better to save that in an archive then build it again with another app now? Of course I don't know how you could import them if the SMS applications don't support it but....
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It just doesn't make sense to have 5000 text messages in that format. That's a lot of scrolling if you are trying to find a specific text message, whereas, in the Gmail app you can use keywords, such as the contact's name and whatever you were talking about and then BAM, there it is.

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N1 running a bit slow and glitchy?

not sure whats up...
sometimes it takes a while for message to come up.. or opening a thread... or switching back to main screen message. is it because there is too many texts? or does that not matter?
also sometimes the N1 is a bit glitchy to where ones where i have contacts for in address book, shows up as number without picture... like if i didnt have the contact added... then after a while, the name shows up again..
any ideas?
stock N1 on 2.2.1
*edit* using the advanced task killer doesnt help either.
The messaging app will slow way down if you have a lot of saved texts.
24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...
I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1
MaximReapage said:
I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1
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what are the links for? does it work for stock N1? $1 is no problem as long as it works well..
how does it back up to ur gmail? can u see it on gmail?
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trying that SMS backup ... omg so slow.. 100 per backup... 24417 to back up.. >_<
It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.
iandroo888 said:
24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...
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wtf? 24k texts???? Hope you use the voice texting feature, or your fingers might get a little calloused...
MaximReapage said:
It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.
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i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?
You can't expect 24k text messages and the phone running perfectly smooth.
Why are you keeping them all and backing them up anyway? Are you really going to sit down and read all of it one day? You're crazy if you do lol. I have about 4k right now and each thread is limited to 200 each. So it probably won't be moving from that at all. If I have to go through anything, I think going through 200 messages would be enough. If you're not gonna read all your texts and stuff, I suggest limiting them. Otherwise, backing it all up will just be a pain
24k texts? That's way overkill. SMS restore and backup has an option to just view your xml backups. If you need to read them again, just use that instead of importing them back to your phone. Messages take up space in the phone's internal memory so it's wise to clean up your messages.
But still 24000 messages? I can already already imagine 10000+ "Okies"...
simms22 said:
i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?
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Not at one time, that's my running total in backup (gmail). Like I said, I only have 100-200 on my phone at any given time.
I recommend SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu. The other SMS Backup app only backs up your smses to Gmail, which IMO is not practical for 24000 over messages. It takes time and data to upload so many messages to your Gmail.
SMS Backup and Restore on the other hand backs up text smses into a xml file which is much much quicker and easier to handle although 240000+ smses will probably still take up some time. Unfortunately it does not back up MMS messages with pictures though I seldom use MMS anyway.
looks like theres a limit on how much gmail can save SMS's... up to 100 per person.. D: i have some ppl in the thousands on my phone :[

is there a limit on how many messages the N1 can hold?

a few days ago, i got a message when i think when someone sent me a text... i got the message saying that phone hit limit for sms or something... i was like O.O theres a limit? D:
need a way to save texts in a readable format... preferably by conversation/person and not by time received?
I think the messaging app internally has a limit. I've used SMS backup to export and import my messages to XML format when I flash new ROMs. I haven't looked at the resulting XML files themselves, but I'd imagine it'd be fairly trivial to manipulate them into however you want them displayed.
I believe it has to do with the internal mem. When you get that message try installing something you probably wont be able to
The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *
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The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *
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Either way they are saved to the same location.
If you install a heap of apps and run down your internal memory, you will also run out of space for Sms, i don't think though that there is a specific amount of space allocated to sms.
There is a limit. When your internal memory is getting low and you will see a SMS spacing low. If there are more SMS coming in basically you can't receive any..
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i tried using SMS backup which backs up SMS to gmail. but the limit is 100 per convo... any way to increase number to unlimited?
I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.
you must have a lot of apps installed on your Nexus, or be a monster of texting...cos I've got more than a thousand sms in mine, and there's no problem at all.
Could be that you hit the internal memory limit?
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I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.
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actually 100 is the limit of the conversation within gmail...
I have contacts with hundreds of messages exchaned and those appears as multiple conversations (100sms each one) in gmail...
You could switch to google voice. I've used Google voice since I opened the white box and pulled my sexy nexy out. You can have it send your number out instead of ur Google voice number with text but I switched to just my voice number so I never have to worry about porting numbers and giving a new one out again. Google has more space on there servers than my phone ever will =D
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SMS force close

Hi
My sister in law has a wildfire and is having issues with the SMS apparently force closing when deleting SMS messages. Is this a known issue? Is there a fix?
Dave
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No one have this issue?
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if she has many sms it's natural on wildfire... just hit the wait bottom and wait wf does not have a high-end cpu so it can't handle many sms.
htc msging app sucks balls. download some other msging apps like go sms from market, should help
hit thanks if i helped you
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tried both Go SMS and Handcent and both show the same issue. She has one thread with nearly 1700 messages in which seems to be causing the issue.
Any more ideas??
As a last resort i have gone into settings\applications\all apps\messaging and cleared all data. This has cleared all messages and then i have set up the sms app to delete sms over 100 per conversation to avoid this in future
EDIT: This did not work. SMS all still there
Right I think I have finally found a way to remove the messages. Ive downloaded "my phone explorer" and used my laptop to delete the messages remotely. Now she has SMS housekeeping set to remove messages over 100 per conversation it should look after itself
deleting messages is a real PITA. It took me about 24 hours to delete 3xxx messages once. You can delete threads with applications like handcent or stock SMS app, they will appear to freeze but after a while they will complete.
A better app I found is "SMS delete". It deletes messages one per one (with options like only delete from that number, only messages containing this word, only older than xx days, ...) and it runs in the background and also when the phone screen is off. It's still slow, but a lot less annoying, and it deletes faster the less messages there are still left on the phone.
I am searching it on the market but I can't find it as of now, I restored it myself using titanium backup. It's a green envelope with a green arrow if you would come across it...
*edit* this one http://android-apps.com/applications/communication/sms-delete-2/ but can't find it in the market, good luck
I'd try the Fix Permissions options at the settings.

Ditching Samsung's messaging app

I've seen instructions on xda for replacing touchwiz apps with the GS3, and it's been claimed that it's possible to delete the Samsung messaging app in favor of another sms app.
So I've frozen the Samsung messaging app on my SG4, and I've installed the jellybean build of Google's messaging app. But it doesn't quite work? I can successfully send sms messages (I'm on rogers) and I can receive sms messages if the sms message app is open. But when the app is closed and out of memory I don't get sms.
It gets stranger, though. When I thaw out the Samsung messaging app, I seem to get my sms' again, but in the Google messaging app. Which is sort of what I wanted, but I'm left wondering why the Google app can't work on its own.
Has anyone else tried this and gotten it to work?
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Have you tried leaving the Samsung SMS app unfrozen, and simply turn off its notifications? Sometimes that's what you need to do in order for 3rd party SMS apps to work, because the background service is tailored for the OEM's app. So you have to let that retrieve the messages and save them to the SMS/MMS storage area, which other SMS apps can then retrieve the data from.
Although it is strange that the AOSP app isn't working. But it's worth a try.

Sent Messages (SMS/MMS) - Can't Backup or View Using Non-Stock App

My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
Parasol_Monsters said:
SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
Parasol_Monsters said:
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.

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