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Well supposedly AT&T is rolling out a software fix to fix upload speeds.
Funny thing is... for a few days my upload speed was fixed.
Now all of a sudden I can't break 200kbit up again.
But iPhone4 users around me can hit 1.4Mbit up all day long.
For those of you that can not hit HSUPA speeds, I wonder if you have iPhone4 friends you can check with.
If AT&T is indeed disabling HSUPA by device or IMEI, then I want to know about it.
It seems they gimped the Captivate so it couldn't do HSUPA (read the forum) so why not screw the Nexus One users too.
I know some of you will post that your HSUPA speeds are great, but you are people that are probably not served by Lucent equipment.
If you did have upload issues, and they are now fixed, I'de like to hear about that too, maybe AT&T is doing something else funky on a per market basis where it's prioritizing crying iPhone users where it doesn't have enough HSUPA capacity or something.
EDIT: My location is Salt Lake City
-James
i suggest you also post your location as well so it ads the detail necessary to make a conclusion. of course my speeds are fine here in socal with a nexus one. no cap or upload limitation or anything yet.
Location is Salt Lake City
I test all the time with a friend of mine, we generally have the same results.
louisiana, att 3g.
Yesterday here at work in Central KY I was seeing 2/.2 mbit in Speedtest, today I'm getting 2.2/1mbit.
What's odd is 2-3 days ago, I was seeing the typical HSUPA speed but yesterday was horribly slow. Only reason I really noticed was because I was messing with wifi sharing and seeing how fast it was. Heh, just did wifi sharing, 3.7/1.2.
I've done it several times, uplink still seems weird.. One time it'll hover around .5mbit, then jump up to 1.2 for a few seconds, then back to .5. Next time I ran it it stayed at 1.2 the whole time. Next time .5 the whole time.
100% sure I'm not jumping towers, mine is very close to work. However, there's lots of folks on AT&T here at work so never know what the utilization of the tower is.
To be fair, I have to say that all of a sudden, I just posted 1405kbit up... But I doubt it will last. I would hope that whatever fix is happening will be for all users, but I am still doubting AT&T sincerity.
But I still think it's a valid question... are these AT&T upgrades targeted to fix certain devices in waves? Are others, like iPhone 4's being prioritized?
Seems weird that my phone won't break 200k, when an iPhone 4 will still break 1mbit all day long.
Could there still be prioritization going on based on device? Like say iPhone users made the news so they are getting bandwidth priority?
-James
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
EarthsiegeTA said:
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Well that's certainly one way to look at it but consider something else.
iPhone 4 users, and all other smartphone users who pay that $30, or $25, or $15... would then not be treated fairly.
Why do I get less service for paying the same $30/month the iPhone4 user pays?
This is blatantly wrong in my opinion. I'm paying for a service the same as iPhone4 users. In fact it's suppose to be the same service, that's why I started this thread in the first place.
There are apps like Fring on the Android Market that can make use of that higher upload speed, and let's not forget that the iPhone can't make Face Time calls over 3G as of yet unless it's jail-broken.
Now if it was clearly advertised that as an iPhone4 users you were going to receive preference, then I would have had a fair chance to make the decision as to which device would provide me the best upload, all the while paying the same $30 per month.
I don't think AT&T deserves to be allowed be deceptive in such a way.
Don't you want your service you're paying for?
In fact look at AT&T's website... it clearly states...
"typical upload speeds of 500 Kbps to 1.2 Mbps on compatible devices for our current 3G network*"
and...
"*Referenced speeds require an HSDPA 3.6Mbps/HSUPA capable device with Receive Diversity and/or Equalizer. AT&T is deploying HSUPA throughout the 3G footprint, HSUPA may not currently be available in all 3G areas."
It doesn't say... "Only for special people who worship Steve Jobs", it says for HSUPA capable devices.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/built-for-business/network.jsp
-James
I highly doubt they are capping anything.
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
Memnoch30 said:
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I have been experiencing strange behavior as well where I am getting 1.6 (or a bit less) up and half the speed down.
Hopefully it's a symptom of implementing a fix and not a permanent situation.
EDIT: my download is highly irregular so I don't think it proves much.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
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Yeah, that's possible. I'm hoping that's what it is.
No, I don't know anyone with an iPhone 4. The only person I knew with an iPhone previous to the iPhone 4, I managed to talk into an HTC Evo.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
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Maybe it just had something to do with your DNS cache or something..
Also ATT doesn't have my IMEI.
What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
xtremelabs
2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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You need to allow your GPS to lock before you'll get servers closer to you.
-James
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What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
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2246 dn 949 up
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2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
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I have never had good luck with xtremelabs.
Speedtest.net usually provides more consistent results.
The company that provides it has a pretty large network for speed testing. The FCC speedtest app is provided by them, for what it's worth.
-James
I finally after 7 hours of work, got my PRI updated to 1.4 and got all my original stuff back and I am updated to the tilt with all current version of everything.
I just finished my speed tests and have found that this 1.4 PRI update has done nothing to increase my 3g speed.
Backstory:
My speed at work dropped from 1mb in June to 125kb (looks like it is capped) two weeks ago. I have done everything in my power to fix it. Nothing has worked and Sprint is not saying anything.
Hope this saves someone time and effort.
There was a tower at my house that was bad. Packet loss was in the thousands when I looked at it on my aircard. It took them over a year to fix it.
I had the same issue you did. went from good speeds to crap.
Did yours appear to be capped? My speed hits that 128kb mark and just stops, everytime.
I've had pretty much the same exact thing in my house... Went from 1mb+ on 3g to around 200-300 kbs. However, after the PRI update I am getting a slight raise in dl speed. around 500-600 now....
My signal strength is still weak and has not improved at all however, which is what I was really hoping for with the pri update....
Honestly...all of this bullsht with sprint makes me want to go back to tmobile. I left them because I was getting terrible signal strength...but i'm getting the same thing with sprint. /: at least tmobile has beast 3g speeds and the vibrant........
ahhh well. I still love my Evo.
Its a known fact that sprint is capping data.
PRI updates only affect a small percentage of users, used for when sprint brings new towers online. Chances are you have no new towers in your area.
Unfortunately, this is the wrong forum to post this, so you may get flamed.
Pri does not affect speed directly, it affects your data access times...pings. So with the new update and possibly lower pings, you will generally see faster response times in the web browser as compared to what you have had before.
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
I now have 4g after this update
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I now have 4g after this update
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lol.... what?
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
Nothing changed for me, still around 1MB... I didn't really expect anything but why not... BTW Those that are complaining about horrible signal at home address, call sprint and have them give you airave for free. I did that on my first month of service and been much happier ever since.
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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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I agree, but there is something to be said for sprint pushing/making the update available.
In any case, I've found that the sprint network can not be considered anywhere near consistent, 3g or 4g, pri 1.34 or 1.40.
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Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I don't know if they do throttle or maybe its a case by case thing. Last month I used 13gbs of data since this is now my primary source of internet. I still get 2-3mbps
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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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+1 agreed.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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Yup. You can download however fast you want but if you can't connect to the server itself in a timely manner then that fast down speed doesn't really matter.
jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I have to see what I used in July, probably 2g...however, my speed didn't pick up when August hit. Anyway, I just posted this because I saw the instruction thread on the PRI was closed. Well, I will just keep calling Sprint and telling them my work zip code sucks now.
I can confirm there is no 3G speed difference between PRI 1.40_003 & 1.34_003 as I have run speedtest.net on my wife's unrooted Evo and mine simultaneously. Our speeds are similar and also similarly vary between 200 - 1100 kbps while driving from downtown San Francisco heading north for 20 minutes or so.
I'm guessing poor 3G speeds are determined by specific tower and load - but definitely not by PRI version.
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No difference here and it broke the prl hack i use to get evdo service. I reverted back to eng build and all is good again. Minus the 7 hours of pri fix attempts.
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So I really had to do a double take on this, and I honestly wouldn't believe it if I didn't have this evidence(after all, isn't the saying "pic or it didn't happen!") you're about to see. I have been checking the news lately and ATT had a quiet 4G announcement ceremony 20 hours ago, and a number of places are getting the HSPA+ switchover. Well, I decided to run speedtest and after running a wifi test first, I ran one HSPA test....1406 down, 1744 UP!!!!! I was shocked, and I immediately logged onto xda, excited to report the switch has been flipped, at least the software one; my Fuze running energy can get 2000 up from where I'm sitting; right before I was going to post this thread saying hey everyone they changed it, I thought wait, I don't want to cry wolf, so I went back into the app for 3 more tests. NO MORE HSUPA! I even walked to line of sight with the damn HSUPA enabled tower, and it was off again! WTFFFFFFFFFF!
Here are the pictures of said insanity:
imbx,us/Gys.jpg
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imbx,us/G2E.jpg
in a sense of irony, I found a weird ball of spiders today, when I uploaded the picture it assigned it the label:
imbx,us/GSM.jpg[/url]
I would like to stick this ball of spiders inside Steve Jobs or the ATT CEO's mouth, for what they've done to GSM. Apple made them cripple the HSUPA, and they probably had a year exclusivity deal, which is why a year after the iphone 4 has HSUPA, we get it. Just my guess, I haven't heard anyone say that, but damn, my Fuze has had 2400 upload for years...
Here's another picture of that weird ball I found. It explodes when you touch it...
imbx,us/GBU.jpg
If you can test your Atrix and provide a location in your reply, then we can make this a thread for reporting in areas that have gotten a possible switch. I have a feeling that over the next week changes are going to be made
And in case anyone is wondering why this is in development, well, as far as I'm concerned, this is a DEVELOPMENT, in ANDROID, for the ATRIX. It happens to be a developing situation,
Semantics, I love em!
PS I had to replace the periods with commas in the picture links because I've been a 3 year lurker, not poster.
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Sorry if I come off a little bit frustrated in my post, but I literally NEED HSUPA in 3 days for some work I'm doing with the national guard and homeland security. If the ATT network permissions are not changed in a couple days, I'm screwed and stuck with my damn Fuze. And that thing sucks! Call/End/Home/Back buttons broken, cannot answer calls because slide to answer disappears when I GET a call, and when I plug in the audio/charging dongle, it will randomly dial people in my contact list...including ex girlfriends...
Anybody dealing with that, would be irate.
No offense. this still doesn't deserve to be in this forum.
And just in case I'm not clear.. You should move it to general..
Xda app via atrix
In retrospect, no problem with that, except I tried editing and I didn't see a parameter to make this post jump to the other subsection; I'll try again, as I have no problem moving it...
Checked, and yeah, I feel like a boner, as I am failing to see any button to delete this post or another item to move it to a more appropriate spot. Hopefully the wise and all knowing Mr. Clown will swoop down on this stupidity of mine. Note to self: pay more attention during 2 am postings....
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Yes this should be in General, but also FYI... AT&T can't just "flip" a "software switch" and enable HSUPA on ANY phone. HSUPA is enabled or disabled by the modem installed on the phone, and ANY phone with HSUPA (say, a Captivate running an i9000 modem/kernel) will be able to use it on AT&T's network and they will get those speeds. The Atrix didn't ship with a modem that even HAS the REV6, it shipped with hardware that was "capable" of it, but a modem that was not, and as of the 4.1.57 update, they still haven't released a modem that is. You just stated that you did a wifi speed test right before... It is likely a result of cache files that you got the results you saw... In other words, a fluke.
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Rich, I wish I could say it was a fluke, but a couple of things here don't make sense for a fluke: if it was wifi, then why was the 1700 kbps down SUSTAINED? it didn't cut out, it only reverted to baseline UMTS after trying again a few minutes later. Second, my wifi would never put out such a low upload speed, I'm right next to the router, full bars 802.11n on a high speed connection that often upload reports 9 to 5 mbps, never lower. Third, my Fuze, a 3.5 year old device with an olllllld rom, most likely without the release 6 handshake, can connect to HSUPA at 1500-1900 kbps from my office chair, where I have been testing. LOS I get even better, but still, I don't think it was a mistake:
ATT is deploying their "4G". They are going to go live with higher HSPA+ speeds VERY soon, they just had the announcement. What I think happened is this, our phones, being the very well connected devices they are, are provisioned according to device type. I think when I momentarily connected for the first time in several hours, it provisioned me the HSUPA packetstream for a moment. Perhaps because they are changing software and/or equipment at many towers right now, there was a glitch, but right now I see zero evidence for the ookla app royally screwing up; check the pictures, it assigned me a HSUPA stream upon initial connection, sustained it for about 15 seconds, and then I rechecked it about 5 minutes later, and it was back to 360, the practical maximum for UMTS. So since these postings are getting pageviews despite its improper location(I haven't got the powers to move it to general), I would like people reading this to test their phone and chime in, especially if you don't live in the east bay in california like me. I know Orlando airport is supposed to be running HSPA+ right now....
The most convincing thing to me was, when it first ran and i got the typical dl speed of 1500, and then the ul of 1704, it behaved exactly like it was onthe network: the speed oscillated up and down like a realtime connection, losing or gaining dozens of bits during the test. It behaved like it connected with hsdpa and hsupa during every other connection i made with my fuze in ookla, winmo or aosp. And seeing as it(fuze) has the original radio and modem, idk about att's handshake explanation. Then again i make no pretentions of being a high speed packet access engineer....
It is a fluke. Same thing happens to my phone since day o f release. I get good upload once out of 10 tests
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
Guys he is right. Remember AT&T said they would be deploying HSPA+ in April. Well it is April. Now they never said when in April, but I can see them turning region by region on. I do agree it is more than just a switch. They add two more carrots in front of the donkey's to make them run faster so there network runs faster.
I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
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Nope that jump happens everytime. I just ran 10 tests and one uploaded at 1700.
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The speedtest apps on the market have very shoddy coding. It's a known fact. As everyone has been saying, it was a fluke, nothing more.
Bell Canada has HSUPA enabled network since Day 1,
but the software on the Atrix has been disabled HSUPA
so still not works
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I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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+1. HSUPA is available now but the modems on the Atrix are limiting us to 300 kbps. I have a Captivate that was limited to 300 kbps uploads. After rooting and flashing (with a different rom and modem) it gets 1500+ kbps upload.
HSPA+ is a different animal that won't translate to the Captivate.
So we're looking for two updates on the atrix.
1) HSUPA enabled...which can be done by AT&T w/ another OTA update that includes a new modem. This will work on the existing infrastructure and should give similar upload performance to the iphones.
2) HSPA+ enabled. I assume this will also require an OTA update but with the updated infrastructure, will bring much faster upload and download speeds (4G).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/t-mobile-flips-on-42mbps-hspa-across-55-markets-to-launch-rock/
Our phones capable of taking advantage of that at all?
Maybe faster speeds? Maybe that is why my data kept dropping today.
It might mean better speeds all around, but wondering if this is something where the device/hardware has to be capable of supporting such speeds. Roommate has a g2x, being that it's so new i'm telling my roommate to run a couple speed tests. Of course he is pissing around about it.
Edit: Here in pittsburgh at 1 a.m. both our phones (g2 and g2x) are stuck on EDGE. Obviously the 3g is down for the upgrade, yay! Plus with that rocket thing coming out tomorrow, they pretty much gotta have this done over night so people dont go and buy them and ***** that the speeds aren't what they are advertised as. So if nothing else, tomorrow morning we shall see!
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It might mean better speeds all around, but wondering if this is something where the device/hardware has to be capable of supporting such speeds. Roommate has a g2x, being that it's so new i'm telling my roommate to run a couple speed tests. Of course he is pissing around about it.
Edit: Here in pittsburgh at 1 a.m. both our phones (g2 and g2x) are stuck on EDGE. Obviously the 3g is down for the upgrade, yay! Plus with that rocket thing coming out tomorrow, they pretty much gotta have this done over night so people dont go and buy them and ***** that the speeds aren't what they are advertised as. So if nothing else, tomorrow morning we shall see!
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I get almost get 4g/3g everywhere here at san diego, never goes to edge
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lainvalenajr said:
I get almost get 4g/3g everywhere here at san diego, never goes to edge
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Well me neither. But tonight we are stuck on EDGE. Kinda obvious that something is going on.
After reading this, i am starting to think that this will affect our devices and all 4g devices...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/t-mobile-upgrading-hspa-network-to-42mbps-this-year/
The radio on our phones still top out at 14.4 Mbps HSPA+. You may however benefit if TMobile are also upgrading the backhaul to the cell site, you may get closer to the 14 Mbps max.
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I've been getting better data speeds lately mostly between 7-9 mbps download best being 10.51 download.
before today I was consistently getting 4-6 mbps download
Of course we're not gonna see a number even close to 42mbps. When it was at 21mbps we didn't even see that. We saw numbers at 5-8 average. With the increase, hopefully Tmobile's network can go head to head with Verizon's LTE cause its damn impressive. If we can at least hit 12mbps, we'll be good!
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Of course we're not gonna see a number even close to 42mbps. When it was at 21mbps we didn't even see that. We saw numbers at 5-8 average. With the increase, hopefully Tmobile's network can go head to head with Verizon's LTE cause its damn impressive. If we can at least hit 12mbps, we'll be good!
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I think because there is a difference between mbps and MBPS. I don't think anyone thought it would go that fast from the getgo. But before I used to get 1 to 4 mbps, now since testing about twenty different times all over the city the past 12 hours, it is consistently 3 to 8 mbps. Big change here.
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I think because there is a difference between mbps and MBPS.
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The difference is b versus B (lowercase versus upper case)
Mbps = megabit per second
MBps = megabyte per second
1 Byte = 8 bits
But in talking about data transfer rates, Mbps is pretty universally used. Often, people get lazy and just type "mpbs" when it should really be "Mbps".
But technically, the lower case "m" is not correct. It symbolizes 1/1000th, like millimeter (mm). Uppercase "M" as the prefix symbolizes one million, very different. But there really is no such thing as a thousandth of a bit. So when "mbps" is typed, its usually understood that it means megabit per second.
Not for our android devices. Only for that Rocket 3.0 thing sadly.
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They keep on getting better and better with connections (4G, LTE, etc) but sometime soon the batteries need to catch up with that development. All the people I know with EVO's can barely last the day. The HTC Thunderbolt apparently has HORRENDOUS battery life when using the LTE network. Browsing and such is amazingly fast on it, but it ruins the battery life. I don't see the point in using these blazing fast speeds when the phone itself lasts half a day.
In general all this pisses me off. The connections keep getting better and faster, yet we keep getting more and more caps and restrictions placed on it to barely even utilize it. It's really getting out of control and ridiculous IMHO.
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They keep on getting better and better with connections (4G, LTE, etc) but sometime soon the batteries need to catch up with that development. All the people I know with EVO's can barely last the day. The HTC Thunderbolt apparently has HORRENDOUS battery life when using the LTE network. Browsing and such is amazingly fast on it, but it ruins the battery life. I don't see the point in using these blazing fast speeds when the phone itself lasts half a day.
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I think most people just accept that cell phones are supposed to last only a day. I dont think it's on any carriers/manufacturers priority list. It's just accepted knowledge at this point. Were not using piece of garbage clamshell razors that can last 3-4 days no more sadly I mean really when you look at how advanced and how much our phones can do, it really is a miracle of god that it can even last a day with such a small form factor and battery.
G2 and G2x can only run 14.4Mbps that's the max for our phone just the new vibrant 4G can run to 21.+Mbps and those 4G cell site upgrades aren't for the releasing of Rocket 3.0 only, android phones, tablets, web connect and anything that t-mobile sells that has web are all included.
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At least the new rate plans that rolled out Sunday have a 10GB option. I would prefer a true unlimited option, but at least it is not going the other way like ATT and Verizon with smaller data allowances and overage charges.
I do HATE the new advertising though. We are now supposed to answer the phones with "thank you for calling T-mobile, home of the $10 unlimited data plan". I'm sorry but 200MB is not even in the same ballpark of unlimited.
I can confirm speeds now of around 6-8 Mbps. Pretty nice bump. I do agree with the unlimited thing being BS. All the carriers but Sprint have jumped on the cap wagon. That being said, I'm liking the new speeds. My wife has the Thunderbolt but I can still laugh at her pathetic "3G" speeds. (LTE is not here in Portland, OR and won't be for some time) Now if we can only hit that 12 Mbps mark.....
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At least the new rate plans that rolled out Sunday have a 10GB option. I would prefer a true unlimited option, but at least it is not going the other way like ATT and Verizon with smaller data allowances and overage charges.
I do HATE the new advertising though. We are now supposed to answer the phones with "thank you for calling T-mobile, home of the $10 unlimited data plan". I'm sorry but 200MB is not even in the same ballpark of unlimited.
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How much is the ten gig plan?
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I'm in Pittsburgh (South Hills) and I've seen almost a double in data speeds since the turn on. Before, my average speed was 1-3Mb/s and 6Mb/s was something that I'd only get for wifi or maybe at like 3-4am on my way into work, I consistently hit 5-6 all afternoon yesterday. Even if we can't fully utilize it, it did benefit G2 users in some way.
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In general all this pisses me off. The connections keep getting better and faster, yet we keep getting more and more caps and restrictions placed on it to barely even utilize it. It's really getting out of control and ridiculous IMHO.
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Its exactly because speeds are getting faster that they are breaking it down to different plans. They don't want the network going down.
Has anyone verified this yet? I saw that it was supposed to be raised to 1.5Mbps today, and having been in an office building all day, I can't check it!
Based on a few speedtests I just ran... I'd say no (Sorry the color is a little off for some reason).
Not yet. Woot another 50kb lol
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Not that I expect any monumental performance changes, but I REALLY want to see an upload speed on my speedtest over 1Mbps.
ps - What ROM do you use ph?
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Im still getting around a meg
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Not here yet. There have been intermittent 4G outages here recently and I wondered if this change had something to do with it.
Not yet here either. I just tested to find out. 7.5Mbps down and it was at 1.2Mbps up for a few seconds, so I got excited, then leveled off around 0.98Mbps after that and finished reporting 1.0 on the head.
Just went to lunch and ran three tests around the Downtown Denver area.
Speeds spiked to a futuristic 1.02 but averaged no better than .97
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Not that I expect any monumental performance changes, but I REALLY want to see an upload speed on my speedtest over 1Mbps.
ps - What ROM do you use ph?
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Currently on Midnight 5.2 w/ Honeycomb Fusion theme. Didn't want to flash again until official GB drops...
That's still slow by comparison to other carriers...COME ON SPRINT!!! =/
I've barely got 3G right now and the signal has dropped way down. Either the tower here has chronic issues or they're up to something...I hope.
It's quite depressing. I have a friend with the Thunderbolt and my DL speeds regularly best his in areas with a strong signal here in Denver (of course he gets much better coverage) but his upload speeds average a minimum 3x faster. He went with me at lunch and where I was DLing at 6.5-7 he was getting 3-3.5, but upstream he gets the same speeds as downstream!
Sprint's going to eventually start losing customers if they don't do something about this poor data performance. Oh, how the mighty have fallen =/ Formerly the fastest network.
Hey DroidApprentice, I think you are on to something here. My upload speeds never topped 1000 before. Thanks for the screenshot. It inspired me to do some testing this morning and something definately changed...
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I sit under a WiMax tower.
I just got 1.49 and our tower is 2 streets over. 7 mbs dl on that same test.
So, it happened a week later than it was supposed to. I only hope it spells the end of the flaky behavior that almost made me believe I was having software or hardware issues on my phone.
And unfortunately, no improvement to ping, although I didn't expect any...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1345636745.png This is My Home internet, 2nd test on home internet right after the 1st one MAJOR DIFFERENCEhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/1345660172.png
1st attachment my phone using WiFi
2nd Attachment 4G
3rd Attachment 3G
Now mind you guys my home internet is Clear Wireless, which sprint pays clear to use their 4G. Sprints 4G is Clear's 4G basically.
My 4G gets better speeds then WiFi lol should be other way around and i only had 1 bar of 4G during that test. And my 3G and 4G were in the same spot. 3G should have more bars i only had 1 bar for 3G. because 3G came out first it should cover most where 4G doesn't.
So can someone explain to me how on same internet 4G and Home 4G, i get almost 8Mbs @ Home but in same spot my phone gets half pretty much, but my upload is more on my phone than it is on my Home internet when its all the same lol
Notice how crappy my 3G is as well in that exact same spot the bars differ each day from 1 to 6 and its never consistent its all over the place