Sprint Xoom - Xoom General

For anyone wanting (or waiting) for a Sprint version of the Xoom, it looks like it's going to be a real thing.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/image-of-sprint-branded-motorola-xoom-surfaces-online/
It also appears that it will have the silver back.
While I would have probably preferred a Sprint Xoom, since Im already a Sprint customer, I'll be satisfied with the additional accessories that will probably be made available (if not by Sprint, then simply due to manufactures catering to a larger market).
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Yeah I was looking forward to the WIFI xoom.. I might hold off for now.

I'm actually glad I went ahead and got it with Verizon. Many times I have two totally different signal strengths on my phone and Xoom. Hopefully this means I will have better coverage at any given moment... plus Verizon's data is definitely faster than Sprint's in my area.
But yeah, please let's get some more accessories!

pekosROB said:
I'm actually glad I went ahead and got it with Verizon. Many times I have two totally different signal strengths on my phone and Xoom. Hopefully this means I will have better coverage at any given moment... plus Verizon's data is definitely faster than Sprint's in my area.
But yeah, please let's get some more accessories!
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I hadn’t really thought of it that way, but you raise an interesting capability. Armed with my Sprint Evo and a Verizon Xoom, you would then be able to pretty simply wirelessly tether one to the other… based upon whichever had the strongest network where you happen to be.

UGH. How much does it cost to add an additional device to sprint's unlimited plan, anyone remember? I'm still probably getting the wifi.

Sweet! I was already planning to return my Verizon Xoom today anyways, but now I know I can get one again when the Sprint one comes out.

awesome was planning on taking mine back to cosco to get the wifi version but now I will wait for the sprint version. I get a 25% discount on bill Wonder how much data plan will cost.

gigglebox said:
I hadn’t really thought of it that way, but you raise an interesting capability. Armed with my Sprint Evo and a Verizon Xoom, you would then be able to pretty simply wirelessly tether one to the other… based upon whichever had the strongest network where you happen to be.
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I like your Sig

Well with the Sprint Galaxy Tab, you have 2 options:
2GB for 29.99 or
5GB for 59.99
And of course if this is a 4G device, they'll probably slap on the $10 Premium Data fee.

I have an evo as you can tell by my sig and I live in a 4G city (wimax and lte), first wimax sucks unless you are stationary. You can take 3 steps or just walk inside and lose signal. I'm definitely going to love having lte over wimax. This is just my opinion as I've tried wimax and lte here in my city, bring on this lte upgrade for my xoom
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It appears to be sporting a leather folio case. I wonder if it is a sprint accessory. Has anyone seen one like that in the wild yet?
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p-slim said:
I have an evo as you can tell by my sig and I live in a 4G city (wimax and lte), first wimax sucks unless you are stationary. You can take 3 steps or just walk inside and lose signal. I'm definitely going to love having lte over wimax. This is just my opinion as I've tried wimax and lte here in my city, bring on this lte upgrade for my xoom
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I agree. My City has full wimax coverage and unless you're outside and standing still you can't use it. Sprint really picked a loser with wimax.

xRepinsSporx said:
I like your Sig
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It was inspired by seeing yours

Bauxite said:
I agree. My City has full wimax coverage and unless you're outside and standing still you can't use it. Sprint really picked a loser with wimax.
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Have to agree. I had the Evo from release till January and the 4G is just not useful at all. I used it on 3G 99% of the time. I bought the Evo because my city was one of the main launch areas with "full 4G coverage". The problem was, if I was inside my apartment, I couldn't even get a single bar of 4G, no matter what the coverage map says (said I was in 100% strong 4G area). Even downtown I could get 1-2 bars inside, and maybe 3-4 outside. The problem is that the 4G speeds required me to be outside generally, and not moving because the service was so spotty I'd get choppy performance.
Not to mention that the 4G radio crushed my battery, and the speeds were mediocre. I got about 3mbps down/1mbps (capped) up. Not worth the drain for speeds only 1mbps more download vs. 3G speed.

martonikaj said:
Have to agree. I had the Evo from release till January and the 4G is just not useful at all. I used it on 3G 99% of the time. I bought the Evo because my city was one of the main launch areas with "full 4G coverage". The problem was, if I was inside my apartment, I couldn't even get a single bar of 4G, no matter what the coverage map says (said I was in 100% strong 4G area). Even downtown I could get 1-2 bars inside, and maybe 3-4 outside. The problem is that the 4G speeds required me to be outside generally, and not moving because the service was so spotty I'd get choppy performance.
Not to mention that the 4G radio crushed my battery, and the speeds were mediocre. I got about 3mbps down/1mbps (capped) up. Not worth the drain for speeds only 1mbps more download vs. 3G speed.
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The reason tht is because sprint borrows 4g wimax from clear
So they get the high frequency tht have a hard time pentrating material....clear uses low wimax so u get it good in 4g coverage area

famouz09 said:
The reason tht is because sprint borrows 4g wimax from clear
So they get the high frequency tht have a hard time pentrating material....clear uses low wimax so u get it good in 4g coverage area
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I understand this. I'm completely aware that the 2500mhz spectrum is terrible for building penetration.

martonikaj said:
I understand this. I'm completely aware that the 2500mhz spectrum is terrible for building penetration.
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And why 700mhz LTE with verizon will rock compared to the wimax Xoom

Bauxite said:
And why 700mhz LTE with verizon will rock compared to the wimax Xoom
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even side by side all spectrum aside the LTE is faster than WiMax anyways in real-world use.

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The truth about WIMAX/clear?

Im letting you know ahead of time that this is a random rant. So I have been wondering what's the real deal holyfield with sprints so called wimax. I read somewhere that wimax really isn't TRUE 4g as it doesn't even max out at true 4g speeds. The most I've hit was about 5mbps. So is it really even 4g? And tmobile hspa + network is that faster that our wimax? My sister comes to my apt in my 4g area and her g2 gets about 6 mbps with her hspa. Why does it seem like gsm has way better data. We all know sprints 3g isn't really 3g its piss poor. If this LTE is supposed to beat out wimax why did sprint roll with it over LTE. I'm thinking sprint wanted to get a **** ton of subscribers so they just went with wimax cause it would roll out way before LTE but I definitely don't think wimax/clear is true 4g. I also heard the clear ceo jumped ship or something lol. If the national standard is supposedly going LTE what would sprint/clear do, will they adopt new technologied in their phones and leave wimax phones out to dry? So the real 4g is LTE and wimax just seems like it should be labeled pre4g, cause I hear LTE will be able to get 10mbps down and 3-5mbps up. That's stronger than most peoples internet eh? I am kind of pissed for paying an extra 10 bucks for 5mbps in a strong area and in my area my 4g hits only about 2. Is sprint going to be the only provider using wimax? The moral of this pointless rant is just to get my knowledge and others about the future/truth of wimax. I just want to understand how this service compares to this new LTE and tmobiles and atts new 4g network. It would be nice just to come in and drop comments on any question asked in this post instead of flame me, or post non sense.
A small search woudl have answered all questions....
First, nobody has a "true" 4G network as no 4G network reaches 100mbps yet. Another thing, Sprint is working on a WiMax/LTE hybrid network, or so it goes. Speed depends where you live. I hit 10mbps easily here in Orlando, some people can't hit above 1. Some goes for ANY network on earth.
DirtyShroomz said:
A small search woudl have answered all questions....
First, nobody has a "true" 4G network as no 4G network reaches 100mbps yet. Another thing, Sprint is working on a WiMax/LTE hybrid network, or so it goes. Speed depends where you live. I hit 10mbps easily here in Orlando, some people can't hit above 1. Some goes for ANY network on earth.
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10mbps? Wtf you gotta be ****tin me man
But thanks for your input bro
Get an iPhone on Verizon. That will solve ALL your issues.
PS. I've hit 12mbit on Sprint's "4G".
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Get an iPhone on Verizon. That will solve ALL your issues.
PS. I've hit 12mbit on Sprint's "4G".
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Nah I'm pretty happy with my evo I got it late, xmas to be exact but hands down best phone I've ever owned. Just disappointed with sprints 3g because you would expect it to perform but it doesn't. Way to rub in your 12mbps against my 2 lol
I got almost 12 as you can see in my signature.
I hit 9-10 all the time in Houston. Hell I get 1-2 on 3g. And you can bet Verizon will charge for lte.
funny you should mention that gsm is always faster than sprint cdma. i was in denton tx last night for an interview and compared my evo on 3g(running gingerbread with no wimax) and i got 1566 kb down compared to his 447 kb down. denton is a college town but not exactly small. i usually get 2-5 mbps down on 4g but havent tested it lately as i am doin the gb thing
I don't mind... if Sprint goes under because of this failed investment, we'll be able to jump ship without ETFs anyways... no worries. ;P
i get 2-3 on 4g in orlando area it sucks my 3g is 1 m
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I hit 9-10 all the time in Houston. Hell I get 1-2 on 3g. And you can bet Verizon will charge for lte.
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How the hell you get 9-10 in Houston I live in Houston. When I lived in pearland I could barely get 1 mbps, now I moved to the woodlands area and barely get 3.
akarol said:
I don't mind... if Sprint goes under because of this failed investment, we'll be able to jump ship without ETFs anyways... no worries. ;P
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That couldn't happen....could it?
tangstang said:
funny you should mention that gsm is always faster than sprint cdma. i was in denton tx last night for an interview and compared my evo on 3g(running gingerbread with no wimax) and i got 1566 kb down compared to his 447 kb down. denton is a college town but not exactly small. i usually get 2-5 mbps down on 4g but havent tested it lately as i am doin the gb thing
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Yeah I know Denton I took a visit to meet this chick at Texas women college one time I drove all the way from Houston and she was on her rag. Ill never forget Denton. Imagine how my weekend went. Never again lmfao
i live in Miami and the 3G is decent as far as comparing it with that pos "3G" t-mobile used to give me. with tmo i was lucky to get 600kbps. with sprint i get 600-1600 average on 3G, and 2400-5600 average on 4G. and peak 4G speedtest is on my signature lol
I live in Houston and on 4g I get around 8-9.
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sounds intresting
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
djnarcotics said:
sounds intresting
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
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Nice, this is good news
Here in the south of Puerto Rico we have decent speeds
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maybe because there's not alot of people connected to these antennas
You guys all seem to be getting pretty good speeds. Me on the other hand I rely on 3g I might get 1 mbps on a good day and I'm happy.
The server you use on speedtest makes a huge difference as well, try to use one that has an internet backbone near it like Atlanta, DC or Chicago for the east coast. I get maybe 2 or 3mbps on speedtest with a server that is not 30 miles from here yet I get 8mbps on another that is almost 1000 miles away.
WiMAX and LTE are still considered pre-4G atm but it's an actual 4G network, all we need is a firmware update to have true 4G. at&t & t-mo on the other hand will Never have real 4G with HSPA+. btw, I get 8mbps in Orlando and on the east coast near there all the time using the atlanta and harold, ky servers, actual speeds during use vary though.

VZW LTE vs. Sprint WiMAX

So my girlfriend picked up a Thunderbolt, and I have to admit I'm pretty jealous of the 4G speeds and coverage she's getting. In our building, I don't get any Sprint signal at all in the basement (I always roam on VZW), meanwhile she's speed-testing at 18mbps. In fact pretty much everywhere we've gone in the area, she gets LTE coverage both inside and out, much unlike the EVO's pretty-much-outside-only WiMAX coverage...
I've found WiMAX to work pretty well if I'm outside or in my car, and I'm sitting perfectly still. Of course I can't leave it enabled unless I use my extended battery, or else the phone will be dead in short order.
I guess Sprint's 9 months of being the only provider with "real" 4G phones was nice while it lasted, but VZW is really kicking ass now when it comes to 4G speed and coverage, to the point where I'd say they're pretty much the only player in town.
So u saying ur gonna switch to the thunderbolt
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BlueScreenOfTOM said:
So my girlfriend picked up a Thunderbolt, and I have to admit I'm pretty jealous of the 4G speeds and coverage she's getting. In our building, I don't get any Sprint signal at all in the basement (I always roam on VZW), meanwhile she's speed-testing at 18mbps. In fact pretty much everywhere we've gone in the area, she gets LTE coverage both inside and out, much unlike the EVO's pretty-much-outside-only WiMAX coverage...
I've found WiMAX to work pretty well if I'm outside or in my car, and I'm sitting perfectly still. Of course I can't leave it enabled unless I use my extended battery, or else the phone will be dead in short order.
I guess Sprint's 9 months of being the only provider with "real" 4G phones was nice while it lasted, but VZW is really kicking ass now when it comes to 4G speed and coverage, to the point where I'd say they're pretty much the only player in town.
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Well, yeah, your lady is going to get blistering speeds because there might be 1000 people in your whole city with LTE right now. Verizon says it expects 5-12Mbps on "loaded cells." I just touched 10Mbs in Manhattan -- on a loaded net. Not saying WiMax is perfect; far from.
Here's the thing: it doesn't matter to me if you go to VZW -- in fact you're one less connected user on WiMax, so I'll be incrementally faster. If you're gonna go to Verizon, do so once you see what performance of both the net and the device is going to be -- in real world, saturated network situations.
Realistically even when the network gets loaded itll still be faster than wimax. Just like with twice the users the 3G is better also. It just is what it is.
Im not willing to pay verizons prices...thats all it comes down to for me
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Im not willing to pay verizons prices...thats all it comes down to for me
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Same thing here. I am ok living with sprints lesser service for the price difference.
The frequencies Verizon has for LTE are fundamentally better than what Clear/Sprint are using for WiMax, at least in terms of building penetration. The higher frequencies do have some advantages, but to me they're *completely* negated by the fact that I go from an "Excellent" 4G signal in the parking lot at work to alternating between "Poor" and "No signal" as soon as I walk in the building. VZW could put Wimax on their frequencies, or Sprint could put LTE on their frequencies, and either way, VZW would win. If Sprint deploys LTE on the Nextel frequencies, we'll have a much more even race.
That said, I like what I pay for Sprint and (especially with the AT&TMobile thing) I don't want to see Sprint fail. I'm sticking with them for now. But 4G on Sprint has been very, very disappointing. There is a point in time -- yet to be determined for me -- when I'll suck it up and pay VZW's prices if Sprint can't improve the 4G network in a major way.
brownhornet said:
Realistically even when the network gets loaded itll still be faster than wimax. Just like with twice the users the 3G is better also. It just is what it is.
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This isn't necessarily true.
As a standard, WiMax has potential for higher speeds than LTE. Significantly higher -- like 30% higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards
The question is, implementation, as always. Of course, it may be a moot point, as Sprint may cut bait from Clear (because of their mismanagement) and go with their LTE plans with LightSquared in tow.
My point remains, leaving Sprint now, based on VZW's LTE speeds NOW vs what they may be when fully-loaded might be a grass-greener-on-the-other-side move. And you know how that usually ends up...
My house is small and my work has thin walls, I get awesome 4g speed pretty much all the time. I guess if where your at you don't have the same results switch. You'll probably be happier.
TonyArmstrong said:
This isn't necessarily true.
As a standard, WiMax has potential for higher speeds than LTE. Significantly higher -- like 30% higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards
The question is, implementation, as always. Of course, it may be a moot point, as Sprint may cut bait from Clear (because of their mismanagement) and go with their LTE plans with LightSquared in tow.
My point remains, leaving Sprint now, based on VZW's LTE speeds NOW vs what they may be when fully-loaded might be a grass-greener-on-the-other-side move. And you know how that usually ends up...
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Yea and 10 times out of 10 we will NEVER see wimax speeds that high.. not if Clear is responsible for deploying it. And honestly the grass is greener not only interms of 4G speeds, but coverage and 3G speeds as well. In terms of VZW vs Sprint you pretty much get what you pay for. In terms of data I rarely even use the evo anymore. Turning on my wimax is pointless honestly unless im close to a tower. Even if VZW's speeds get chopped in half, which I doubt, itll still be faster than wimax here. The biggest factor is if you look at how many towers VZW has here as compared to Sprint, it makes sense as to why you can get LTE pretty much everywhere you go in in Metro Atlanta as compared to Wimax.. where once you leave downtown you're not really guaranteed to get it at all.
still love Sprint...
Long time Sprint here my self..
But 89.99 + 20% discount for unlimited 4G with Verizon was only $10 more than what i was paying with Sprint..
I love Sprint to death, but until they use their 800MHz spectrum for 4G then i'll be staying with Verizon..
I mean look at these insane speeds...
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asenduk said:
Long time Sprint here my self..
Verizon was only $10 more than what i was paying with Sprint..
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I just made this exact post in another thread lol. VZW is NOT that much more than Sprint anymore. Especially since Sprint made the $10 premium data mandatory for all smart phones. And im telling you now, if VZW does decide to make that promo that they ran for the any mobile for the same price, its gonna get ugly.
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Dont see how its trolling when its the truth. *shrug*
VZW is not much more for an individual user, but with a family plan its a lot more. Total for my 4 smartphones was 60 more a month. Not worth it, especially getting 10Mbps down everywhere I go. 15 vs 10 is just not a big deal to me.
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VZW is not much more for an individual user, but with a family plan its a lot more. Total for my 4 smartphones was 60 more a month. Not worth it, especially getting 10Mbps down everywhere I go. 15 vs 10 is just not a big deal to me.
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my plan three evo's after tax and 22% discount is 167, verizon for two phones not three after tax and discount was 189!
But like it was said if vzw did anytime any mobile. I might consider it. but then again 90% of people we know are on verizon so maybe it doesn matter.
these are the same customers that complained about the $10/fee
they aint going to pay $10-20 more ...
i agree sprint wimax signal is a joke.. i am in DFW (one of the major oginal wimax cities).. and it sucks!... so much so that I use a ROM that does not even have wimax support!.
i sure hope that sprint has real plans to fix this asap with wimax...not lte.
OP here. I switched from VZW to Sprint for the EVO, so I knew what I was coming from. When we got WiMAX here (DC/Baltimore area) it was at first very spotty, and it's still moderately spotty. I suppose I was expecting to see the same from VZW's LTE offerings, at least for the next year or so, but I was surprised to see how... good it is. I'm sure once the network gets a little more saturated the speeds won't be as good, but still, having 10-12mbps everywhere on VZW is quite different from having 3G in most places and 4G in a few select places like I'm used to now with Sprint.
I'm not saying I'm going to switch back to VZW... I hated the way they nickel-and-dimed everything... I like Sprint as a company much better. I just hope maybe they'll at least increase the back-end WiMAX speeds a little so they can be a bit more competitive with VZW LTE at least with speeds (I know the penetration isn't going to get much better...)
I will never go back to verizon for any reason. I don't really download that much on my phone that I can't do when I have wifi. Since having 4g on pretty much kills the battery, I leave it off most of the time. I love the evo, and if sprint improves things then it's even better.
same here, i have had them both, but sprint has been the best company for me. and where i work i roam the WHOLE time . but when the end of the month comes and that bill is in front of me i remember why im here!! o and of course the EVO !!! FTW

Sprint better buy clearwire out...not looking good

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.
Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.
Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
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Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.
What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.
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I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.
Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.
I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
Speed test sitting at my desk at work right now (about my average 3G speeds, usually a little higher):
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And with a really weak 4G signal:
Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol

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Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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But but but ...Verizon is God.
This is what I've been saying, technology isn't perfect.
No amount of money can protect you from problems.
Sprints 4G has not gone down and we have five times the amount of users. 3G works fine in most areas except his borough on NY.
Either way, tech is tech, things happen.
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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Bwahahaha hmmm I wonder if he gonna show up. I'm sure he will
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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this will get good !
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Thank god I have the AT&T network to fall back on when it comes to data. I live in NJ and the service has gone to ****s.
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Sprint's network works great, except where it doesn't. Their 4G has never gone down, especially where it hasn't gone up yet.
Well, apparently I don't live in "most areas". Speeds here in Reno, Nevada range from barely tolerable to pathetic. At my house I average about 200 kbs down with a low of 87 kbs to just over 500 kbs. At work, in the middle of town, it averages a little better, around 800 kbs, but is much more erratic with lows around 100 kbs, and very rare highs of around 1600 kbs. Bottom line though, virtually all other carriers are faster than Sprint is here, by a pretty good margin. And it has been that way for about six months now. And then their is the 4g that was promised by the end of the year when I got my phone last June, lets just say I am not holding my breath. I think it would be a pretty good bet that all the other carriers will have 4g here before Sprint does.
That said, I am not necessarily a disgruntled customer. With the exception of Verizon, Sprint has the best coverage here, But Verizon's 4g probably won't get here any sooner than Sprints. ATT's phone call quality sucks, even though their 3g data speeds are at least 2-3 times faster than Sprint on Sprints best day. And Tmobile has the best speed of all, but their coverage totally sucks. So they all have their pros and cons. I'll stick it out for another year, until my current contract runs out. If Sprint doesn't get their act together by then though, I will definitely consider moving on.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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I've been with Sprint since 1999 and I'm not going anywhere; I'm a stick it through with them until their network gets better. However, I doubt that Sprint has been integrating the new system into the old one for over half a year in my area. In that amount of time, you would assume that at least one tower would be upgraded by now. My 3G service has 1x speeds everywhere I go in Miami.
Maybe it's one of those things where they can't flip the switch until EVERYTHING is upgraded......I don't know. However, anytime my girl sends me a short video of my kid doing something cute, it's a 20+ minute wait to download 5 MBs if I don't have 4G coverage or WiFi. I used to brag about how fast my phone was and now I try to sneak out of any conversation that has to do with data speeds. lol
DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them
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You should
DirtyShroomz said:
So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Wow... So you never said you moved one line and were waiting until the Nexus to see if the network is fixed by then? Must have been another Award Tour or I could be completely wrong. Not searching on my phone for the post though.
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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I even remember you saying you moved a line to Verizon lol. People dont forget man!
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Agreed I remember that as well

Its Official, Sprint converts CDMA network to LTE

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/
They plan on lessening the hardware footprint by building multimode stations for the towers. At the top of the tower in the same radio they'll have 1.9 LTE, 1.9 CDMA, 800 CDMA and in the future 800 LTE. With LightSquared they'll have 1600 LTE. Sprint plans to have 120 LTE markets by the end of 2012, with LTE capable devices starting to appear the middle of next year. WiMAX devices will continue to be sold through 2012.
AngelofChaos said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/
They plan on lessening the hardware footprint by building multimode stations for the towers. At the top of the tower in the same radio they'll have 1.9 LTE, 1.9 CDMA, 800 CDMA and in the future 800 LTE. With LightSquared they'll have 1600 LTE. Sprint plans to have 120 LTE markets by the end of 2012, with LTE capable devices starting to appear the middle of next year. WiMAX devices will continue to be sold through 2012.
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Sounds good to me....Thanks for sharing!
Well, I saw this coming, but it'll force most people to get new phones [if they want 4G].
teh roxxorz said:
Well, I saw this coming, but it'll force most people to get new phones [if they want 4G].
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that it will, and unfortunately with this new upgrade program Sprint is implementing, we're going to probably all be waiting till late 2012 or early 2013 to actually use that upgrade for any of the LTE capable devices.
Im sure Philly will be 1 of those first markets to get it so that good for me......
but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
Hopefully when it comes out the Evo 4G+ will be LTE
but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
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The Evo wont work with LTE, so if you want to use lte you would need to buy an lte phone.
As far as your evo, it seems like Wimax will still be supported for at least a few years, just no new expansion.
Greatness83 said:
Im sure Philly will be 1 of those first markets to get it so that good for me......
but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
Hopefully when it comes out the Evo 4G+ will be LTE
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They still plan on using WiMAX along with LTE through 2012, so the EVO should be fine. After 2012 though, its not looking good for WiMAX. I would like to see Sprint's theoretical speed tests of this new network before I upgrade, though I'm certain they'll be much higher than WiMAX considering Verizon's speed tests.
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that it will, and unfortunately with this new upgrade program Sprint is implementing, we're going to probably all be waiting till late 2012 or early 2013 to actually use that upgrade for any of the LTE capable devices.
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Exactly...my mom still has the 1 yr upgrade come november, so I still may get the galaxy s II, but then we'll still have to upgrade come that time, once the LTE comes out and some actual LTE phone come out, but then by that point, the second wave of LTE phones will be out, so should have a decent selection.
Wasn't a huge fan of WiMAX. Hopefully with LTE Sprint will continue building out their network for better coverage. My upgrade is in June 2012 so it should be interesting to see what's out on the market.
No more losing Wimax keys as well lol..
Eh, WiMax sucks anyways. I get significantly faster HSPA+ speeds then WiMax, without all the coverage holes, building penetration issues, and battery drain. Good riddance.
So I guess I can stop checking the Clear coverage map for Wimax in my area.
well I should still have an upgrade come next june, so hopefully i'll be able to grab a LTE device.
AdamHart612 said:
Eh, WiMax sucks anyways. I get significantly faster HSPA+ speeds then WiMax, without all the coverage holes, building penetration issues, and battery drain. Good riddance.
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If you knew anything you'd know that it has NOTHING to do with WiMax itself and that WiMax is actually a better standard with proper implementation/spectrum.
It's Betamax/VHS situation all over again.
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If you knew anything you'd know that it has NOTHING to do with WiMax itself and that WiMax is actually a better standard with proper implementation/spectrum.
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Doesn't help anyone if that implementation doesn't exist.
Sounds like another 10 dollar increase
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Beginning to think its all an illusion..yep..heard the same about 4G when the EVO came out and after...still no 4G here. Won't believe it until I see it then it will be time to buy another phone on some promised hype that never shows.
If Sprint ever does away with unlimited data or raises rates I will be gone or maybe that is just an illusion too.
I wanted to upgrade to iPhone but now I'm holding it untill Sprint lte comes out with new lte phones.
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culua said:
I wanted to upgrade to iPhone but now I'm holding it untill Sprint lte comes out with new lte phones.
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Why not just buy it and then sell it when you want to upgrade?
It's not like much of the value is going to be lost over the next 6 months.
There's not gonna be another iPhone for a year or whatever.
Exactly !! Wimax is way better than LTE and so is its design and network sprint and clearwire don't have the money to make such a huge change and upgrade to WiMAX Rev.2
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