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I'd like to be able to watch those full length movies like on certain sites (not sure if I can mention them there) but they are in flash media formats instead of wma formats. Is there some way to make those work?
Sorry for the newbie questions. I've been searching quite a bit. One term I'm trying to figure out is what is "making a kitchen"
Also does anyone know why the frame rate hack for the video camera says not to go above 19fps? Also how do you change to avi and other formats? I see them in the registry, but not as an option in the GUI.
Thanks guys.
ElementalWindX said:
I'd like to be able to watch those full length movies like on certain sites (not sure if I can mention them there) but they are in flash media formats instead of wma formats. Is there some way to make those work?
Sorry for the newbie questions. I've been searching quite a bit. One term I'm trying to figure out is what is "making a kitchen"
Also does anyone know why the frame rate hack for the video camera says not to go above 19fps? Also how do you change to avi and other formats? I see them in the registry, but not as an option in the GUI.
Thanks guys.
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You can try Flash video and Tcmp prolly the best out their and "Making a kitchen" is making a rom. But u MUST install Tcmp and flash video bundle on the Place and instal tcmp FIRST ill post the files for u xD
Sry i keep getting "database error" when i try to attach.
And mind sending me the site
http://www.sprintmogul.net/FAQ/HaizisMogulHacks.aspx
Ok I have the DCD kitchen now and I've downloaded the tcpmp but it doesn't do flash movies. I cant find the "flash video" program your talking about.
Try searching this "Skunkworks Flash video bundle" on the overall forum not just titan.
You're probably talking about a site that sounds like jukebox. I won't name names, but that site also does not work for me on my phone. The flash video bundle WILL work for google videos, youtube, some others including some cheezy porn sites but that's about it.
I actually use ORB to steam media right from my pc to my phone. MUCH nicer. If you have a hardware based tv capture card, you can actually watch tv on your phone AND change channels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393958
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I use Skyfire. It's amazing. Sign up for their beta and you'll see.
If browsing a random website, Why do embedded YouTube videos show up blank in Opera? Is there a way to make the video at least show the screenshot in Opera and when clicked, open up in the default HD2 player?
You'll need to wait for flash to be available for the HD2 or you could try one of the flashlite's which can work.
Also under one of the development & hacking threads there is a flashfix program which may or may not work for you.
Well I'm not really that interested in Flash working right now. My problem is why won't the embedded youtube video link even show up in Opera. I would be fine if it would show up, we could then click it and it should open up in the default media player...
On my laptop and desktop, I can find official music videos of songs quite easily, but on the youtube app on the HD2, it's very difficult, seems like the searches are filled more with chipmunk versions of the songs that I am searching for.
So what I'm testy about is that the youtube app on the hd2 seems to be filtered so that you can't easily find the good official music videos.
I'm sure it runs tip tops for most of the users and I'm sure this topic will get 100,000 views without a single reply, but I just felt like making it aware that the youtube app is crippled.
That is all.
Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
glcK23 said:
On my laptop and desktop, I can find official music videos of songs quite easily, but on the youtube app on the HD2, it's very difficult, seems like the searches are filled more with chipmunk versions of the songs that I am searching for.
So what I'm testy about is that the youtube app on the hd2 seems to be filtered so that you can't easily find the good official music videos.
I'm sure it runs tip tops for most of the users and I'm sure this topic will get 100,000 views without a single reply, but I just felt like making it aware that the youtube app is crippled.
That is all.
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I feel you! That has happend to me a few times. If someone talks about a youtube video on twitter or something it is a pain in the ass to find unless I know the title literally word for word. Also..It does work really well if I am bored and just want to watch some videos. So It doesnt not suck that bad
It sucks for channels too. I have added several to mine, It does not sort channel videos by post date, I follow several that post a few a week and vlogs would prefer the most recent to be at the top, I cannot seem to figure out the sort pattern it is using, it just seems to randomly select videos from the channel.
When i got the HD2 i thought id shift alot of my youtube viewing to it and get away from the PC, however that youtube app makes for so much work to try and find a channel's most recent video posts that i almost never use the app.
Really all its good for is viewing the "most popular" or "newest" videos that come up on the very 1st screen of the app, or if you know of an EXACT title to search for
The youtube app in the marketplace seems to do a better job with sorting vids, but its a piece of crap to use on the HD2, video quality is horrible. I dont know why there are 2 different versions of the youtube app
mastajest said:
Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
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I think I read there was a regedit for that...but I do not even want to try and mess with my registry.. Hahahaha
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Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
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Yeah, If you get a youtube url from an email or text, it should open up the youtube app, how hard can it be to set it up like that? It's the littlest things like this that add up.
Like for example, I just youtube'd on my laptop "Like a G6 Far East Movement" and got their official music video, I did the exact same thing right now on my HD2 using the youtube app and it said "No Videos Found".
Something is filtering the HD2's search queries.
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I dont know why there are 2 different versions of the youtube app
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Just answered my own question looking at the about info on the HD2 youtube app, its written by HTC, whereas the marketplace one i believe is written by youtube.
The HTC app is great for viewing if they could just get the searching and the sorting of channel videos straightened out
If I use Opera to search the phrases that find the videos on my laptop, it will find them just fine on youtube.com, but my Opera version has no flash and I don't like Internet Explorer on the HD2. Oh well, It works fine, just doesn't find the official music videos some times, does a damn good job at finding the chipmunk versions of the songs I search for.
I wonder if this is a youtube/copyright issue...Hmmmmm conspiracy!
glcK23 said:
If I use Opera to search the phrases that find the videos on my laptop, it will find them just fine on youtube.com, but my Opera version has no flash and I don't like Internet Explorer on the HD2. Oh well, It works fine, just doesn't find the official music videos some times, does a damn good job at finding the chipmunk versions of the songs I search for.
I wonder if this is a youtube/copyright issue...Hmmmmm conspiracy!
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I forget the name of the addon, but there is one that uses the IE browser's flash plugin in opera and it works decently well with youtube. I tried it for awhile, but hated that whatever the addon does it must change the browsers user agent string because the "my account" features no longer work because it cant detect it as a mobile browser.
The addon here here on XDA, some searching aught to find it. I dont have a URL handy
Of course when you remove the addon it does not seem to reset the browsers useragent string to the opera default one. I ended up having to hardreset my phone to get everything working as it was prior.
Youtube and Youtube Mobile are two very different things. Youtube Mobile uses streaming .3gp media, while regular Youtube is flash based.
When a video is uploaded to Youtube, it has to be converted to .3gp format in order for most mobile phones to play it. Obviously when your talking millions and millions of uploads some videos get passed over. Go to www.m.youtube.com in your desktop browser and search for something, you'll see the same results you get on mobile.
Solution: download Skyfire and use real Youtube: problem solved.
Hope this helps.
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Judging by the video quality of the videos in the HTC youtube app, im pretty sure it is pulling the .mp4 video files from youtube. Youtube by default serves up the videos on their website in .flv and .mp4. If you use firefox install a plugin called "DownloadHelper" and you'll see the videos available. Each youtube video page has about 6-8 different .flv/.mp4 files linked to it of differing video qualities. When youtube is completely unstreamable in the evenings, ill use downloadhelper to queue up downloads of the .mp4 files of videos i want to watch, and then just sit and watch them all using media player classic from the klite mega codec pack once they all finish downloading. using the .mp4 files and media player classic also has the benefit of being less of a resource hog. flash video playback will peg my CPU at 100% the whole time. the .mp4/MPC combo usually stays under 50%
I think the official youtube app in the marketplace, and the youtube.com that pulls up in mobile browsers uses the .3gp format which looks like utter crap on our HD2s.
agree... it's slow sometimes...
It's been like this on just about every phone I've had. They should really look into making it better, it bothers me as well
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Try downloading the app called skyfire it is a browser that activates the adobe flash features & plays better movies
d0ug said:
I forget the name of the addon, but there is one that uses the IE browser's flash plugin in opera and it works decently well with youtube. I tried it for awhile, but hated that whatever the addon does it must change the browsers user agent string because the "my account" features no longer work because it cant detect it as a mobile browser.
The addon here here on XDA, some searching aught to find it. I dont have a URL handy
Of course when you remove the addon it does not seem to reset the browsers useragent string to the opera default one. I ended up having to hardreset my phone to get everything working as it was prior.
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Is this it (fixOperaFlash)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4273641#post4273641
I successfully have it installed on my phone. Can watch any youtube video now with the stock opera
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Is this it (fixOperaFlash)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4273641#post4273641
I successfully have it installed on my phone. Can watch any youtube video now with the stock opera
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Yup thats it, like i said though it changes something, likely the browser's user agent string, so the t-mobile my account webpage will say that you need to use a mobile browser to access this site. basically i think they've changed the user agent string to emulate a desktop browser so sites like youtube will load the full real youtube site and not the mobile version by default.
I wish that addon would leave the user agent string alone, because its not much trouble to scroll down to the bottom of the youtube mobile site and choose to view the desktop version, which i believe it remembers until you clear your cookies anyways so you dont have to deal with it that often
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Yup thats it, like i said though it changes something, likely the browser's user agent string, so the t-mobile my account webpage will say that you need to use a mobile browser to access this site. basically i think they've changed the user agent string to emulate a desktop browser so sites like youtube will load the full real youtube site and not the mobile version by default.
I wish that addon would leave the user agent string alone, because its not much trouble to scroll down to the bottom of the youtube mobile site and choose to view the desktop version, which i believe it remembers until you clear your cookies anyways so you dont have to deal with it that often
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Yeah it does change the user agent in the registry. I found a key in "HKLM/Opera/Prefs/User Prefs/Custom User-Agent" that contains the agent I picked in the fixOperaFlash app. I wonder if one could simply insert the original agent string back (or delete the custom key entirely) with the flash bits still working properly?
Edit: Confirmed, I nuked the above key entirely. Started opera and it had reverted to it's stock user agent. Went to youtube, scrolled to the bottom and clicked the desktop link, then plugged in a video that I know is not available on youtube mobile, worked great. Tmo MyAccount seems to work properly as well.
i just want it to run like it does on android,when i was using my g1 i would search for videos on the browser and all the videos would pop up just like on a computer that wouldnt pop up on the g1 youtube app,then i would click it and play it through the youtube app just fine and great quality. They should of made it like that and i remember someone on this forum told me there was a regedit that you could do to make it do that on this phone but i dont know if you have to flash a new rom or get it from this forum or not.
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Yeah it does change the user agent in the registry. I found a key in "HKLM/Opera/Prefs/User Prefs/Custom User-Agent" that contains the agent I picked in the fixOperaFlash app. I wonder if one could simply insert the original agent string back (or delete the custom key entirely) with the flash bits still working properly?
Edit: Confirmed, I nuked the above key entirely. Started opera and it had reverted to it's stock user agent. Went to youtube, scrolled to the bottom and clicked the desktop link, then plugged in a video that I know is not available on youtube mobile, worked great. Tmo MyAccount seems to work properly as well.
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thanks, ill have to try it out
I have noticed that on the app videos don't appear at the same time as on the desktop version, they appear like 6 hours later...besides that everything looks good.
Hi,
It seems to me that the HTC HD suffers from poor video playback among other performance problems, I didn't know devices this new were affected by this problem as I remember there was a Class Action website concerning some affected devices with poor playback.
I have even used this program which supposedly will encode videos to play well on the HD : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Used the factory settings, and video glitched and froze in many spots, also went out of sync many times. Used default bit rate settings. Tried playing in both "Album" and Windows Media Player, same problems
Seeing how the HD plays this video I wouldn't even consider trying Coreplayer with Divx/Xvid.
Is there any drivers/fixes to improve video playback or upgrades in certain ROM/Firmware releases?
Thanks.
that is over all a difficult question, because it consists of many aspects.
first of all, that program uses high bitrates and if it converts to wmv, a poor codec. if you take regular 624 x 352 16:9 xvid files, performance is higher. that's the 2nd thing: you said, after seeing album and wmp perform this bad, you wouldn't even give tcpmp or coreplayer a chance. but actually, they do much better in general, after all, you have way more options to optimize playback depending on bitrate and resolution. you could set the buffering and use options like "override avi framrate based on audio", "prefer lookup tables over arithmetic" and "prefer less buffering over smooth video" to get it to work to your demands.
and of course there are many ways to tweak the performance even further: you can of course try different radio roms and corresponding rilphone versions, different roms (which come with different tweaks cooked in by the respective chefs), or even go further and play around with different drivers, like neo2007's driver pack, or use gfxboost, winmospeed, hdtweak...
i have absolutely no problem playing regular xvid files (as stated above: 624 x 352 xvid, overall bitrate just above 1000kbit/s, 175MB per 22 minutes) absolutely smoothly on my blackstone with audio synced at all points. and that way, i don't even need to convert the videos.
as you can see, it is not done by a single tweak to make them run, maybe you need to switch the codec, the player, the rom and make a lot of settings, but if you want proper video playback, it shouldn't be too much for the result you get. also have a look at the codec info i posted, they are very commonly used.
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I've tried NEO's driver pack, doesn't seem to help, it was a cab file that I installed, I think it said that those drivers dont improve video playback but are more for improving touchflo and 3d performance? i may be wrong.
That program encoded to AVC I don't think it used WMV (or is it pretty much the same codec?).
Just wondering how do Radio ROMS affect the video playback? I thought the radio rom is for the Phone/GPRS operation?
Also how do tweaks on ROMS affect the playback, I thought it was limited to that the processor simply cannot do the work to make the video play smooth as there doesn't seem to be any dedicated graphics/video chip? Do chefs do tweaks on how the OS uses it's memory? Just wondering what sort of tweaks they are but this might not be a simple answer.
I'm surprised how xvid @ 1000k plays well on your blackstone, hmm. Seems my playback method on coreplayer is "QTV" is that the video accelerator on the Qualcomm Chipset ?
xvid video at 830k at 608 x 400 plays borderline on my blackstone on coreplayer, when Panning on movies it jerks. 1778 frames played, dropped 551.
I would have thought preffer less buffering over smooth video would make the video rougher? going to the description of that option.
I tried ticking those options you suggested, they only slightly improve the playback, however i tried this suggestion from another thread :
"For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 sec, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player."
Seems to help the most out of any suggestion but still jerks sometimes.
I'll look into winmospeed to see if it can do anything to speed up my video playback and my device, but not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
What is a safe speed to run at?
which driver pack to use depends on which rom you are using, some roms already come with a driver pack and installing another one makes the device slower rather than faster. the drivers, as you correctly pointed out, generally affect the 3d performance, however, it is about hardware acceleration and some players use hardware acceleration, which should be the same chip, the gpu.
you might be right, the program might encode in avc, just had a brief look at the screenshot, and as you mentioned windows media player, which supports almost no codecs i just assumed, it would go for wmv. as already pointed out, i don't encode my files for the phone. too much work for watching once. instead of re-encoding, i could watch them on the pc instead.
radio roms don't affect video playback directly. they do more than just handling phone calls and wireless communications though, radios are the bridge between the winmo OS and the hardware, so also bluetooth, wi-fi, camera, sound and many more things are influenced. but most of all i mentioned it, because i went through a lot of roms recently, beginning with the latest orange uk stock rom and on every single one of them i experienced an improvement in performance, when i used the newest radio 1.17.25.09 with them, with corresponding rilphone. many cooked roms have specific rilphone versions cooked in, and the radio should match for the entire device to work properly.
as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of work and tweaking, to make new builds and sense versions run properly on this rather slow device. many chefs point out to have compressed a lot of graphic files and optimized cache sizes, pagepool...
some of these tweaks can also be altered with hdtweak.
at the moment i use tcpmp cooked into the energy rom and i believe avc deblocking was ticked by default, or else i would have mentioned it, but i also read before, that it should stay ticked on for better performance.
for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33 while playing 3d hd2 games, which are generally very slow on the blackstone. having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long time anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
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for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33...... having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
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agreed.. level 33 = 633mhz is borderline..
a hell of a lot faster than normal 528mhz!
set to level 33 does make the device crash sometimes but not often, i personaly recomend level 33 regardless..
1/10 times it will crash, in my experience its on device first boot after customisation. soft reset and all is ok.
it could be my rom though haha - i joke!
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not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
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overclocking is completely safe dude, already read up on this before i even tried it when it was released.. so to save you reading, just download it, its worth it
Chef_Tony said:
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long Dtime anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
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lol, in that case dissable everything thats running to free up all your memory
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as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of*
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*of headf*cks and facepalms! haha
i honestly thought you was a chef untill i seen that, ya got the perfect name though
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Hi, got a problem with browser Opera: while trying to watch a video on youtube fro exemple, it doesn't start, it says " not supported: the used protocol in vnd.youtube ******* vndapp=youtube_mobile&vndclient=mv-google&vndel=watch&vnddnc=1 is not supported.
More than that got also problem while trying to download files from web pages: th download doesn't start, saying "transfert not possible"
does someone knows what's the problem?
For info I allready got flash player 11 installed and enabled flash on opera's settings
just use dolphin hd browser - much better in my opinion
I'll give it a try. btw I tried ninesky also and video works. for the downloads the only problem was sdcard space.
But why opera doesn't work for videos?
Hmm,
I might be wrong, but as far as I know, opera uses its own servers (like a proxy) to reduce the traffic used. They pack the pages in a special way, and on your device, opera browser unpack it. This kinda tricky solution has a side-effect, that video-steam after being packed at server can't be decoded at your device (I suscect the same concerns downloads, as they are saved as is).
BTW there is no reason to use opera, as your kindle fire supports only wifi so no expensive mobile traffic
because opera seems faster than other breowsers to me. btw I've fixed the problem by setting desktop mode on opera's settings.