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HD2 (leo) or TD2 (Topaz)? I need your opinon!

My Touch Pro is nearing it's 1.5 year birthday, and although it has served me well I feel it it is time to retire it. I am in the market for a new phone, and two phones have caught my eye. I wanted to get the opinon of current TD2 owners and see what you thought on the matter
Now I am fully aware people would be sat there saying "why would you get the TD2 over the HD2?!", but the TD2 has a few redeaming features that make me think it would like it better. For my money, the TD2 has the following reedeaming features:
Sits better in palm (due to smaller form factor)
Looks much better
£200 cheaper (!)
Bigger battery
It also shares many features, like the ability to run WinMo 6.5 and HTC Sense, same resolution, 5mp camera, SD slot... e.t.c.
I know the HD2 has a much faster 1GHz processor, and the huge screen would be great for GPS. but I am not sure it would be comfertable to use (I think my iPod touch is quite large). That said the screen would be alot nicer to use, and the HD2 will probably run WinMo7 when it finally surfaces (since I will have the phone for at least 12 months, probably 18)...
You can see why I'm stuck right?
What would you do? If you had the oppertunity, would stay with what you have, or upgrade to the latest and greatest?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the TD2 battery 1100 mAh while the HD2 is 1350?
EDIT: To give my opinion, I'm totally satisfied with my TD2 at the moment but I wouldn't mind getting the HD2 instead of it. I watch ALOT of movies on my TD2 and the screen is really good (16:9 in CorePlayer looks beautiful, widescreen ftw!). But I just bought it so I will have to wait some months and see what's coming.

ooops... I actually wanted to vote for the Leo - sorry
Take the HD2 - it has the dual LED flash, 3.5mm headphone jack and capacitive touchscreen - and, most importantly, it's incredibly fast!

I would say get neither if you plan on having them for 12months+
But really I love My TD2. Had it since release day in April. So like 6 months now. If it weren't for the price I'd get an HD2. But then again it's nearly the same phone I have minus the Flash, Big Screen, and SnapDragon. I upgraded from a touch and skipped out on the Original Diamond. And thank god I did, cause a few months later the announcement of the TD2 came.
Wait till Feb for the World Mobile Congress (or Mobile World Congress) I'm sure there will be smaller sized devices than the HD2 that have the same specs. I mean look what happend last year. The HD was announced then along cam the TD2 which is the same yet different. Plus the TD2 was like $200 USD less.
If you can wait wait. If not get the TD2. It looks nicer. and say in6 Months when the D3 is out you can trade up. Cut that 12month wait in half.

I like the HD2.. it's looks good and has a nice big capacitive screen..
If i didn't have the TD2 i would buy the HD2.
But the TD2 is a nice phone, not too big and it's fast enough for me.
The thinks i hate off the TD2:
Bad camera and no flash
My wifi sucks (broken) and HTC won't repair it They tried to repair it 2 times but they failed
But i can't say what phone you should buy, it depends on what you want to do with it..
Fast, big screen, camera flash, good for movies? then go for the HD2
not too big, easy too use with one thumb, cool design? then go for the TD2

I was goign to get the HD1 over the TD2, but as soon as i held the TD2, i love it. Feels better in my hand than somthign the size of an ipod touch.

Go to the store and try both out. You can't beat first-hand experience. Personally, I think the HD2 is too big to carry in your pocket and uncomfortable to use with one hand. HD was already just short of too big for me.
I really hope HTC puts these snapdragons into something smaller than the HD2 eventually. I'd love something the size of TD2 yet with bigger screen. Who decided to sacrifice screen estate to have a frickin' "zoombar" anyway?

I was at a carphone warehouse earlier, and the TD2 dos feel really nice sitting in the hand. How does HTC sense perform on the older hardware?

The leo will be the first of the snapdragon processors things will only get better from there. I'd save the money and go with the TD2/TP2

thsnx for the opinions...very helpful......I am in the same predicament...I've been in the market for a phone for almost a 9 months. I was gonna settle on the TD2, then came the Magic, then the Hero, and I fell out of love with the magic pretty fast. I still like the Hero but Im not sure about the NO BT transfer and poor cam. I am not sure about Android either. But I handled the Hero @ a HTC Store and I have to say that I was impressed by the build quality....the fone is firm..feels like luxury. (at least the brown one)
The Leo will not be in my price range once it comes out. I could buy a whole new laptop once the price it.
Anyways.....I like the HD2..Seems like the safe choice now...The moto STD is making want to be a bit more patient....need to get a phone now...cant wait till the mobile congress....So many choices ...what to do.... Hero, TD2,HD2 ??,STD by Moto,...uhm.....a little still after all......

I have the Topaz running a Leo based ROM (currently from Dutty) and it (Topaz) is an awesome phone, but the Leo has got me drooling- I gotta have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

as much as i would love the 1ghz cpu of the leo it just too big for me, thus i vote topaz.

Size does matter
Its way too big, i gave up on the TP2 due to its sheer size and bulk, yes the bigger screen was awesome, but back to the TD2, its the best balance.

Thanks for the oversight guys, it's mbeen really helpful. I will take a look at the HD2, but I think I will end up with a TD2 and get a new phone 10 months down the line. The hero is pretty nice, but I'm worried the novelty of android will wear off. I does feel really good in the hand, and the build quality is damn good.
Decisions, decisions...

Leo is very big in size, small battery, no 3g calling.
the only thing it has better then the TD2 is the processor.

i agree about the leo being to big. i just got the htc pure yesterday and starting to really love it. feels great in hand. its taking a little to get used to it coming from the fuze. the leo is just the first step. there will be more like it im pretty sure in the future. hopefully with a smaller screen.

Just buy your TD2 with a 1-year contract, by end of next year there will likely be a few snapdragon based phones to choose from. I'm sure you'll have different screen sizes to choose from at that point. Personally I would have gone that way but my company buys my phone so I got stuck with a 2 year on my new Imagio.

Fresh Air [Post your positive testimonials here!]

Hi everyone, long time reader, first time threader. I've been reading alot about the Nexus One and without going into a ****load of detail, as you all know, the forums do attract alot of negative reviews, only because, obviously, the masses of people out there who are happy with their shiny new handset are sitting back, playing with their gadget, probably laughing at the world.
My phone arrives tomorrow, so I thought it would be interesting to start a thread that everyone can post their positive, satisfied testimonials in. If this thread fails I will take that as a fail over all.
Nothing negative here, if you're happy with your new Nexus let everyone know here. Over 9,000 pages.

I think that is a very good initiative !
In a couple of hours my phone should arrive.. i'll post my first-hand thoughts !

Mine is awesome. I have none of the issues everyone is talking about. In particular, I like the battery life compared to my last htc, and how easy it was to pair to my 3 cars.

Very happy
As a mover from WinMo to the N1 I am very happy. I still have plenty of learning to do about Android and will root when I think the community has enough tools to make it really worth it, but my first impressions are that this is a good quality handset that feels good in the hand and is very responsive.
I have been using it for 10 days and wouldn't consider any of the small challenges I've had anything more than an ignorance of what Android is possible of.
I hope you have as good an experience as I have

I've been a long time iPhone (jailbroken) user and have just got into the Android scene with my Nexus One.
I must say,...I'm absolutely loving the device,..my 3GS feels dated in comparison! I'd still say the iPhone OS has more polish then the current iteration of Android 2.1, but know that won't be for too much longer.
Loving the Android community too!
Time to sell that 3GS on ebay

Very Very Happy
I would like to say that I am very happy with the phone having played about with it for the last 3 days. It is everything I expected it to be and the more apps/widgets I add the more impressed I am with it.
Being a smart/internet phone it heavily relies on a good connection. On 3g/WIFI it is easily the best phone I have used and in terms of ease of use and speed it matches the iphone.
I had to set up the APN settings after I got the phone and ever since then the connection has been fine. Please note that on GPRS the speed is not that great - which is not a fault of the phone.
It surpasses the iphone in terms of customizability and the fact that you can have a number of apps running at the same time without ANY slowing down! ON a Jail broken iphone everything bugged down due to multiple apps being used.
I only need a decent case now as it has slipped out of my hand several times due to its slick design!
Overall - very impressed, very happy, absolutely no regrets about not getting the iphone which was the only other alternative I was considering.

Great phone
I went from having a G1 since February last year over to getting the nexus last monday (ordered it a couple of hours after the press conference). All i can say is... wow!!!
Well, actually i can say some more things ;-) This piece of aluminium and glass is lightning quick. It's slim, it has the best phone-screen that i have ever seen, Android 2.1 looks extremely nice (like what they replaced the drawer with). Not having physical buttons is no problem since it have tactile feedback (takes a couple of minutes to get used to but after that you don't really reflect over it).
My friend has the IXXXXX 3gs and we have compared web loading speed. Let me just say that the NE is always faster when it comes to loading the entire page. Sometimes it is twice as fast (we tried several urls of which neither of us had visited before - they were not cached). When you flipped the G1 over to the side, it sometimes took several seconds for the image to flip with it. On the NE it is instantanious.
As for the problems you guys have had with 3g->2g and back, i can't really say i've had these issues. Where i live (Sweden) it have worked rock solid since the beginning.
There exists one issue with the screen on the NE right now, but since is the praise-thread where we are all positive, i will save that for another thread
Kind regards
Daniel

I've been a long time WinMo and Blackberry user here, and the N1 is my first Android device.
I'd have to say, I'm definitely impressed. The hardware is slick and fast, I've had absolutely no issues with the phone other people have had (except no 3g coverage when I'm at work, but life goes on). Pictures are good for a phone, everything is just nice.
Once an N1 with a hardware keyboard comes out, I'll give the current N1 to the boyfriend as he's smitten with it and -hates- hardware keyboard, whereas I have to have a device with a hardware keyboard (work-related, I send emails like a fiend).
It plays Pokemon Ruby perfectly. And...it just works.
On a positive note as well, yesterday in my office with had a Blackberry (Tour), WinMo (Imagio), WebOS (Pre), iPhone (3gs) and of course my Nexus One. iPhone, WinMo and Blackberry users were aaall jealous (especially the iPhone user). The Pre guy likes it a lot as well, but not quite smitten.

Just see these videos and watch your juggernaut fight keys and scissors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGAW6L5x8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
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This is my and the n1'a one week anniversary and we will be celebrating tonite over wine and and a movie. Everyone make sure to tell your nexus how much you love it.
I have had nothing but good experiences with this phone, I don't even have to use the Keyboard!

If you want a breath of fresh ait go check out Twit.TV.
Specifically the Daily GizWiz #1007
http://twit.tv/dgw1007
**** DeBartolo and Leo Laporte both got N1's.
And on this one when they a don talknig about Google.cn they talk uo the N1 one for a while and it's features.
http://twit.tv/twig
Just thought I would share!

Lovin' it
Again - I have absolutely no complains about the nexus at all. It is the device that I have been waiting for so long, and it does not disappoint in any way. Had it for 2 weeks now and still can't stop playing with it. Can't think of any other bit of tech where the novelty hasn't worn off after a couple of days

So I received the phone 10 hours ago, and only let it out of my hand because I had to go to the toilet and eat.
Its fantastic.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto to all the comments.
1 week old for me, moved from a Symbian. This is much better. Sorted out the sync process for my emails and calender (from Outlook - I love the fact I don't need to connect the phone to my PC to sync, I know it may well be days before I need to turn the PC on with this phone). No manufacture issues. Lots of looks from iphone droids (incl my gf!). Loads of Apps.
Can't wait for flash, because when that arrive, there will be no beating this sweet bit of kit - oh yes, and the price, for a SIM free, £360 delivered (subject to possible VAT) is an awesome price!
I can't praise this enough! I simply see it as a HTC with a google ad/logo on it!! Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.

My Nexus One is really fun to just poke at the background of.
Well I mean it just does everything my myTouch 3G did except better, and that's really what I wanted

I use mine on the toilet! (I know; that is grody.) It is that hard to part from the phone. I'm coming from a rooted G1 that I spent a lot of time playing around with.
In comparison to the iPhone, Android + Nexus One hardware makes it far superior. Not saying the iPhone isn't a great piece of hardware in its own respect, I just think the marketing that went behind it has implanted the idea that it is the most superior phone out there. To me, the Nexus One has disproved that. I can actually have a phone with a background (live wallpapers, FTW) and not populated with a bunch of squares (widgets, FTW). I can actually view all my notifications and have quick access to them via simple swipe of the notification bar.
I use text-to-speech on this phone as I did on my G1. SayMyName is quite useful (despite some bugs on the N1, it reads the contact number not the name). On my G1, SayMyName would slow my calls down and it would ring 4-5 times before actually giving me a chance to pick up. Not so much on the N1. It is instant.
Camera takes nice pictures. Navigation works great (used it on the G1, but should be same on the N1, just faster). The screen is pretty, very pretty. Simply put, this phone is awesome!
I apologize for my ramblings; I've been getting a lot of flak from iPhone users. I hope everyone enjoys their Nexus One as much as I do.

I've used WinMo devices for the past five years or so (Since O2 XDA). Latest one was a HTC Touch Diamond.
I've been using my Nexus One now for a week and it never stops to amaze me. I thought my Touch Diamond was pretty neat, but compared to the speed and ease-of-use of Android on this blazingly fast N1... it's just awesome. And (unlike my Touch Diamond) it doesn't need soft resets three times a day....

Mine is really awesome. I have none of the issues some are talking about. In particular, I like the Speed, UI, Design, Flexability, Customizing, etc...Did I mention Fast

Got mine ~4 hours ago. After reading through these forums the past day to see what problems I might expect, the only issue I saw, but was prepared for, was one edge of the screen wasn't sealed. Turned the hairdryer on it for ~30 seconds, pressed down and the screen stuck. No dust was under the screen straight out of the plastic protector. No 3G swapping issues (T-Mobile).
Impressive piece of kit, especially coming from a Dash where some keys weren't working and sound quality had gone to crap.
Compared to my wife's MyTouch 3G, the Android keyboard is waaaay easier to get keys on the outer edge to register. It usually takes me a few tries on the wife's, but the N1 keys register on the first try.
Very happy ~4 hours in.

Had it around a week and a half now. Absolutely love it! After spending so many years with WinMo I can't describe the difference. Such a great piece of hardware too.

So whats next....

My poor touch HD is starting to feel the strain, being patched up with countless ROM updates has kept it going but shortly my Contract will be up with O2 and i feel it may be time to part ways with the old girl
Soo, my question to everyone is, where do we go from here?
HD2? im not so sure, its a fraction too big and apart from being a wee bit snapier its not much difference, and its been out a while now so will there be a new one on the horizon, maybe?
Acer F1, ive heard some good things about this but i hear the build quality is pretty shoddy
an thats my pretty much out of ideas, basicly i want the Touch HD with a faster CPU, faster graphics, same size screen thats not going to be out of date in a couple of months. With all this Windows phone 7 business and android getting new devices left right an centre ive stopped hearing about decent new Windows mobile devices.
has anyone got any ideas, we must all be starting to think the same, the Old girl has been out for years!

I'm in the same boat
Also with the Touch HD - been eyeballing the HTC Desire - wanna go Android now - looks like a great choice!

HD2 for me, no question. The way I see it, this phone will remain the main WinMob legacy phone for all developments in the future due to its spec/availability. I foresee WinMob7 will be fully ported for it, as will a fully working version of Android, it's only a matter of time. Imagine a phone that could boot into Win6.5, Win7 & Android!
In the mean time I'm more than happy with the functionality of my HD (i only ever use Coreplayer, Opera 10, RSSHub, TomTom/GoogleMaps & a couple others), so an updated version that does the same, but better, will do me fine.

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basicly i want the Touch HD with a faster CPU, faster graphics, same size screen thats not going to be out of date in a couple of months.
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I like the look of the performance of the F1, size, battery life, resistive screen and built in stylus, I had an F900 at the same time as my HD and it was close enough build quality wise that I would try the F1, pocketnow has a review on it and mentions build quality, but without going into specifics, check out the HD2 v F1 benchmarks and comments from the guy that has owned both the HD2 and neotouch as to which one has considerably better performance [read both reviews and comment sections] Brandon miniman tends to have a bit of a sour opinion of anything quality wise with acer or e-ten and a bit of a rose tinted view of anything HTC, but definitely worth a read.

I've gone with the Desire, ordered 30 mins ago and should be with on Monday. This weekend is going to draaag!

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I've gone with the Desire, ordered 30 mins ago and should be with on Monday. This weekend is going to draaag!
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So - how is it? Glad you made the switchover? Any thoughts you'd like to share?

When my Blackstone finally dies or my contract expires next winter, I will go for Android or iPhone. And while flashing new ROMs was quite amusing for the nerd in me, I'm really looking forward to a phone that just works
Windows Mobile is dead, just compare the application markets of Android/Apple to WinMo...

same here, although I just recently got my HD, once its worn or when I get the opportunity to change I'll go the desire or equivalent awesome phone at that period of time.

And...?
Come on guys, there are loads of us with HDs at the end of contract facing exactly the same predicament - what to go for next!
If you've already made the switch to a Desire or HD2 or something else, how are you getting on? Why are you happy with your new choice (if you are)?
Like Dazza9075 I want more of the same - HD with faster CPU and graphics and no less in screen size. Liked the Desire in my local Orange shop but somehow not happy dropping that tiny bit in screen size. If you are procrastinating because of what is around the corner, tell us what you are more likely to go for and why!

~~Legend vs Xperia X10? Should I get the legend?

I am in debate between these two phones. No Desire, for it looks effing ugly.
Why do you guys like the Legend, are there any complaints?
OH.
How much did you pay to get your HTC Legend!?
I found a deal for $490 for the HTC legend!
Any good place where I can find it cheaper?

Legend was my first smartphone. I had a long hesitation between it and the desire but I can't regret my choice... my sister has the i3gs and the legend is really better although more difficult to use because I had some problems with album arts and wifi... don't worry I have resolved both by an app... what I love the most with my legend is holding a hard piece of beautiful metal.. the finish is the best I ve ever seen! Now concerning the x10: I don't really like the blue ui and the phone is too big and blocked to an old android for the rest of the year: legend is beautiful, extremely fast, compact and have a better autonomy due too its screen: smaller but definitively comfortable
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Legend was my first smartphone. I had a long hesitation between it and the desire but I can't regret my choice... my sister has the i3gs and the legend is really better although more difficult to use because I had some problems with album arts and wifi... don't worry I have resolved both by an app... what I love the most with my legend is holding a hard piece of beautiful metal.. the finish is the best I ve ever seen! Now concerning the x10: I don't really like the blue ui and the phone is too big and blocked to an old android for the rest of the year: legend is beautiful, extremely fast, compact and have a better autonomy due too its screen: smaller but definitively comfortable
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Thanks that really helps!! How much and where did you get it? Anyone else?

Legend FTW
Got it from ashop.tv for 335 € (~$425).
But you wouldn't expect any other answer from user of a forum dedicated to the Legend? I like the design more
Do you had both phones in your hands at a local store already? That's imho very important.
Besides, X10 has still Android 1.6, and will officially updated to 2.1 not sooner than Q4/2010. I also like the Sense UI.

Legend! get the Legend

Legend is quietly briliant
The construction of the phone is next to perfect with 3 exceptions : first, sometimes in long conversation the edge of the device might inflict some discomfort to the ear (maybe i press it too much to the ear) and second, the removable part where you insert the sim card does not close up perfectly...must be around half milimiter. Last exception is the laudspeaker ... if u put the phone on a flat surface with the display facing the cealing...when the phone rings you probably miss around half of the ringing volume.
Software wise...the phone is pretty stable and fast, ocasionally there are some minor gliches with the wigits...i found that sometimes the HTC Calendar wigit does not show me my meetings on the month view unless i enter a particular day. This is resolved easy...just removing the wigit and installing it back.
I also found some problems with the bluetooth transfers. I own an HP 8710W mobile workstation and an Lenovo Thinkpad T500 and with both of em the trasfers often are a pain...i guess it must be the Android here, prolly on 2.2 version it will be improved.
Conclusion: coming back to the topic, these are just some minor problems regarding the headset...things i observed in about 2 weeks of usage....but compairing this peace of art with the ugly plastic Xperia X10 is just wrong. I troully belive SE has dropped the ball on their smarthphone producs begining with Xperia X1. Word of advice : just stay away from SE !
Hope this helps.

with the ongoing android updates scene & the developer community also moving away from the legend , i suggest you get a nexus one instead .... atleast if you are going to keep your phone for a longer time you will always have the latest android build (either from google or XDA).... but if you choose to stay away , then i suggest you skip the x10 & go for the legend

i went for the legend, however now i kinda wish i got the desire.
i went for the legend because it looks so nice however after playing with a desire in my local telstra store i think i probably should've gotten the desire as in real life its not that ugly at all.
a friend of mine got the x10 its not bad but i do miss the pinch zooming that i get on the legend but the bigger screen is very very nice. really it comes down to personally preference as they are both very good android handsets however the legend is a fair bit cheaper

Indeed....Desire/Nexus have the big screen and fast processor but it all comes down to how much you use the web browsing experience everyday...i mean i check some websites from time to time but only around 30 minutes a day. I gladly exchange that big screen of the Desire with the way more pocket friendliness and build quality of the Legend. Not to mention i pulled out 3 days of battery juice recently with moderated usage. It just fits great in my pocket !

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Indeed....Desire/Nexus have the big screen and fast processor but it all comes down to how much you use the web browsing experience everyday...i mean i check some websites from time to time but only around 30 minutes a day. I gladly exchange that big screen of the Desire with the way more pocket friendliness and build quality of the Legend. Not to mention i pulled out 3 days of battery juice recently with moderated usage. It just fits great in my pocket !
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brother same results for me only i am not using only 2g; my battery gives me 2d 18hrs thats after 2nd recharge from the time i bought phone. i also do negligible web browsing. only thing is all developers have got these big & fast phones so they wont pay attention to legend. but said that, even legend is not at all slow, so i think its only matter of time that some good developer like paul pay attention to legend; we will get super fast legend.

Ive been having this problem too. So many smartphones out there and I have been wanting to abandon WinMo and take the Android plunge.
What I have learned is the following: Go out and try the phones in a shop. I wasnt sure either. I was considering an X10 or HTC phone and 1 thing that made up my mind was the Sense interface. I didnt like the X10 navigation and feel. HTC is spot on.
Now my only issue is trying to decide between the Desire and Legend. I hit some small road blocks trying to order the Desire and now it becomes a real war in my brain (Legend or Desire).
But go and try it. Play with the devices. I think in the end it will come down to what feels better for you.

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Ive been having this problem too. So many smartphones out there and I have been wanting to abandon WinMo and take the Android plunge.
What I have learned is the following: Go out and try the phones in a shop. I wasnt sure either. I was considering an X10 or HTC phone and 1 thing that made up my mind was the Sense interface. I didnt like the X10 navigation and feel. HTC is spot on.
Now my only issue is trying to decide between the Desire and Legend. I hit some small road blocks trying to order the Desire and now it becomes a real war in my brain (Legend or Desire).
But go and try it. Play with the devices. I think in the end it will come down to what feels better for you.
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as an owner of the legend the only reason to get it over the desire is because it looks so damn nice
if looks dont matter then go for the desire its not that ugly and can be found for only a little more than the legend. its also not much bigger than the legend
personally as soon as htc come out with a phone that looks as good as the legend with the power of the desire or more then insta buy for me

i am sucker for sense, i purchased motorola milestone but had to return it within 10 days & bought legend; as i am old fan of hero. I have seen nexus but not in action. i dont think i can stand stock vanilla eclair, i love sense. so might as well try to get DESIRE in my opinion, but try to find out battery life as its a big screen

Thanks noobdeagle and everyone for the comments.
For me I find it all helpful. I will definitely be getting either a legend or Desire in the next week or so. I think it will now come down to who will give me the best deal locally for a contract renewal.
But one thing I can say for sure. HTC seems to be going the right direction with its newer phones. Plus I agree with you all out there the Sense definitely beats out SE take on Android. I am someone who knows nothing about Droid (being an Palm OS and then WinMo user his whole Smartphone life) and When I picked up the Legend or Desire, I have to say that HTC made it very user friendly and almost intuitive to use. When I picked up the X10 and played with it, I didnt have that feeling. Actually, I felt the opposite. It felt awkward and strange.
Definitely dont want to have that feeling when using a new OS.
So thanks all of you experienced Droid users out there for also helping us newbies.

hd2 vs samsung vibrant

Hi.
I have my hd2 for about 3 months now and i really like it, but this morning on my way to work my phone died. Screen went black while i was browsing the net. I restarted it but phone is stuck on tmobile stick together splash screen. I was still rocking original tmous rom, so I called customer service and they told me that they will ship me a new one and also that i will have another 14 day trial period with it. So basically i can return this phone and pick another one. one of my friends got vibrant yesterday and i spent some time playing with it and phone seems to be pretty nice as well plus it runs android and since my last phone was g1 i am kinda used to it. Thing is i dont really like samsung phones as i had some bad experience with them in the past, so my question is, would You change your hd2 for vibrant if you had the opportunity? if yes please explain why.

I just saw it at the store about 30 minutes ago. I will say this, while being a nice phone, the avatar demo movie playing on it was chopping up and glitching a bunch. Not sure if thats the phone, or the player but video on the HD2 played way smoother and cleaner. Other then that I couldn't tell you anything. And your answer from me would be, HELL NO!! The HD2 just has too much going for it compared to everyother phone. Look at the rate of progress they are deving android for it! Near the speed of light. I could see droid being your stable OS on the HD2 in under 1 month.

The vibrant is a great phone, but not perfect either. I think in this case once again the choice just comes down to whether you get along better with Android or WM.
But, keep in mind that you'll likely never find a WM version ported to the Vibrant, where as the HD2 has several Android builds that are mostly working on it right now, and a fully-functional version should happen before very long.

i use both phones. the hd2, primarily for work and the vibrant as my "daily driver". both phones have some setbacks. with the hd2, my biggest complaint, on the latest stock rom, has been lagging and freezing during and after sending sms and mms. i usually have to soft reset my phone during these cases.
however, i am sure flashing of some custom roms should solve this issue but i have not had the time to do so. overall, i love the build quality of the hd2 and its gorgeous 4.3" display. i'm also running a dual boot of the latest android froyo port on it and it almost runs as smooth as the android os on my vibrant.
my biggest gripes about the vibrant is its overall build quality. it's pretty much plastic all over and very lightweight. there are some creaks during vibration.
while this might be a setback it's also one of the phone's strengths. some times i forget that it's in my pocket. it's very portable/pocketable and slim. bear in mind, it's screen is 4", not that much smaller than the hd2's. also its weight literally feels like a feather vs. the weight of the hd2.
my other complaint about the vibrant is the TouchWiz skinned interface. it looks a lot like the iphone. heck, the overall look of the phone looks like the iphone 3gs. however, i soon got over that that by installing some home theme replacement apps/ui such as Launcher Pro and ADW launder free from the android market. these themed UI apps look just like vanilla froyo roms and actually run smoother then the touchwiz theme.
Overall, the vibrant is seems to run a lot smoother, quicker v. the hd2 in terms of app launching and scrolling, screen transitioning, and gaming. furthermore, texting is great. no lags nor freezes and the included swype keyboard trumps the one provided by the hd2. no lags, delays, etc whatsoever. however, there are some lags and glitches here and there when running a number of apps or when using the android market. just like the hd2 and the winmo OS, there are task killers that you can download from the android market place. and let's not forget the beautiful and vibrant (yes, tmobile got it right with this nickname) the screen is. i literally have the brightness set at 0 and it's still stands out a bit vs. my hd2 set at about 20 pct to save battery. honestly, i've never seen a smartphone reproduce such colors in terms of watching movies like avatar so vividly. i'd say it's almost on par with the beautiful display of the iphone 4.
if you decide to purchase the vibrant, make use of the 14 day return period. make use of the android market and look in to this website, xda and see what the vibrant is capable of. rooting is SUPER easy on this phone and a froyo build should be coming out soon from team cyanogen (i.e. wes garner). The official OTA on android 2.2 will likely be out by the end of September for this phone as well.

I had an Android phone for about 18 months, and I've had my HD2 for about 4...
I love the HD2. Best phone I've ever had. The G1 was cool when it came out, and I was impressed initally, but it only took a week or so before it started to get "buggy". Once I rooted it, nothing imporved and I was constantly out of touch for hours at a time due to booting, wiping, flashing, etc...
HD2 totally different story. Say what you will about Windows Mobile 6.5, but it is very customizable and powerful, capable of many great feats. Not nearly as proprietary as iPhone or the upcoming WP7. And as of now as far as I know Microsoft is on record as stating they will be supporting and upgrading 6.5 for the next two years at least even though WP7 will be out.
The HD2 is very quick. The stock Opera browser, while not having native flash is very quick to load full media-rich pages. Having Office 2010 preloaded is a big plus for me, also.
I play the Ferrari GT Evolution game all the time, and since I got a class 6 SD Card, there is very little lag or stutter at all, graphics are very imressive. I know the Vibrant has a better screen but I think the HD2's is good enough to where this would not be considered a "deal breaker" (like not having a freakin' flash on your top model phone, I mean, come on, Samsung, is everyone there shooting meth?).
I have not had any problems with MMS, Text, or Facebook or Twitter on my HD2. All run very smoothly. I have 5 email accounts up and synching nicely.
As far as watching movies, if you have to run them side by side to tell the difference, again, I file it in the "not a dealbreaker" category. All I know is I can watch True Blood in H264 just fine on my HD2 and not even use 35% of the battery.
Battery life on the HD2 for me seems to be about a full day, plus a half if not having wifi on all the time.
People complain about the size but I love it. I like having a big, solidly-built smartphone that I know is sitting in my pocket and not going anywhere.
Anyway, I haven't played with the Vibrant yet so I can't do a comparison, but the flash for me is a big one, because I use the camera on my HD2 constantly. But my advice would be not to write off the HD2 just because of everything you hear about it. Give it a shot. It's a great phone.
Hope that helps.

to be fair, the op was asking about the vibrant. i also have a rooted g1 and i'd have to say the vibrant murders the g1 in every aspect. i have not rooted the vibrant out of the box because of how much internal memory it has (16 gb) and its blazing speed.
mfrey0118 said:
I had an Android phone for about 18 months, and I've had my HD2 for about 4...
I love the HD2. Best phone I've ever had. The G1 was cool when it came out, and I was impressed initally, but it only took a week or so before it started to get "buggy". Once I rooted it, nothing imporved and I was constantly out of touch for hours at a time due to booting, wiping, flashing, etc...
HD2 totally different story. Say what you will about Windows Mobile 6.5, but it is very customizable and powerful, capable of many great feats. Not nearly as proprietary as iPhone or the upcoming WP7. And as of now as far as I know Microsoft is on record as stating they will be supporting and upgrading 6.5 for the next two years at least even though WP7 will be out.
The HD2 is very quick. The stock Opera browser, while not having native flash is very quick to load full media-rich pages. Having Office 2010 preloaded is a big plus for me, also.
I play the Ferrari GT Evolution game all the time, and since I got a class 6 SD Card, there is very little lag or stutter at all, graphics are very imressive. I know the Vibrant has a better screen but I think the HD2's is good enough to where this would not be considered a "deal breaker" (like not having a freakin' flash on your top model phone, I mean, come on, Samsung, is everyone there shooting meth?).
I have not had any problems with MMS, Text, or Facebook or Twitter on my HD2. All run very smoothly. I have 5 email accounts up and synching nicely.
As far as watching movies, if you have to run them side by side to tell the difference, again, I file it in the "not a dealbreaker" category. All I know is I can watch True Blood in H264 just fine on my HD2 and not even use 35% of the battery.
Battery life on the HD2 for me seems to be about a full day, plus a half if not having wifi on all the time.
People complain about the size but I love it. I like having a big, solidly-built smartphone that I know is sitting in my pocket and not going anywhere.
Anyway, I haven't played with the Vibrant yet so I can't do a comparison, but the flash for me is a big one, because I use the camera on my HD2 constantly. But my advice would be not to write off the HD2 just because of everything you hear about it. Give it a shot. It's a great phone.
Hope that helps.
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ryan562 said:
to be fair, the op was asking about the vibrant. i also have a rooted g1 and i'd have to say the vibrant murders the g1 in every aspect. i have not rooted the vibrant out of the box because of how much internal memory it has (16 gb) and its blazing speed.
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To be accurate, they were asking if anyone would trade their HD2 for the Vibrant. I simply wanted to have an opportunity to let the OP know that his HD2 experience may be the exception rather than the norm, and to familiarize himself with how to use the device instead of simply giving up on it.

Thx for the replys.
I decided to stick with hd2. I flashed a custom rom same day i got my replacement and it really improved speed of the phone and everything work as smooth as i expected. On top of that im runing darkstone's froyo now and im loving it.

nomadwgk said:
Hi.
I have my hd2 for about 3 months now and i really like it, but this morning on my way to work my phone died. Screen went black while i was browsing the net. I restarted it but phone is stuck on tmobile stick together splash screen. I was still rocking original tmous rom, so I called customer service and they told me that they will ship me a new one and also that i will have another 14 day trial period with it. So basically i can return this phone and pick another one. one of my friends got vibrant yesterday and i spent some time playing with it and phone seems to be pretty nice as well plus it runs android and since my last phone was g1 i am kinda used to it. Thing is i dont really like samsung phones as i had some bad experience with them in the past, so my question is, would You change your hd2 for vibrant if you had the opportunity? if yes please explain why.
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No i wouod keep the hd2 but thats just me...but i agree with you on the samsung topic they really arent the greatest...
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