[Q] Can I use WP7 on the HD2 with no carrier? - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

I'm developing a couple WP7 games, but I don't have a device to test on. I'd like to wait until my Sprint contract is up ( I have an Evo ) to switch to whatever WP7 they have out at the time. I was wondering if an HD2 running WP7 would work for testing. I realize that it won't be exactly the same as running on official hardware, but this would be a stopgap measure. Is it even possible to run WP7 without a carrier, using only wi-fi for internet access?
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tdwhite0 said:
I'm developing a couple WP7 games, but I don't have a device to test on. I'd like to wait until my Sprint contract is up ( I have an Evo ) to switch to whatever WP7 they have out at the time. I was wondering if an HD2 running WP7 would work for testing. I realize that it won't be exactly the same as running on official hardware, but this would be a stopgap measure. Is it even possible to run WP7 without a carrier, using only wi-fi for internet access?
Thanks
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Mine runs just fine in airplane mode, and also seems to boot just fine without a SIM card inserted. As far as I can tell, no problem. The apps I tested were fine using wi-fi.

simple answer yes

yes you can but to make your app run as it would if activated buy a 10 dollar sim for t-mobile pre pay and the glictchs go away

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What can I do with an non Activatable Titan.

I got my titan about a week ago from ebay. And after a week of dealing with sprint to get it activated they told me it can't be activated in the system but luckily I had called before I purchased my phone to confirm the ESN was good and they reassured me it was so there going to send me a replacement titan. They told me I don't need to return my phone so basically I have an extra phone that can't be connected on sprint.
So how can I make this a productive phone with out cellular coverage and is there a way to lock the phone from placing calls?
gface2k said:
I got my titan about a week ago from ebay. And after a week of dealing with sprint to get it activated they told me it can't be activated in the system but luckily I had called before I purchased my phone to confirm the ESN was good and they reassured me it was so there going to send me a replacement titan. They told me I don't need to return my phone so basically I have an extra phone that can't be connected on sprint.
So how can I make this a productive phone with out cellular coverage and is there a way to lock the phone from placing calls?
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well, it has WiFi, so you can use it as a mini internet tablet around the house, you could use it to stream music wirelessly from your PC, watch youtube vids, use it as a regular PDA or even use it to test custom ROMs
i thought it was possible to change the esn to a 6700 or another 6800... that would give you a working sprint phone to use..
Use it as a dedicated GPS, just need an app that has the maps on the phone already.
Thanx for the ideas, I was thinking of trying android on it.
Sell it for parts - They are going around ~100+ for bad esn phones. Would help pay for the working one.
gface2k said:
Thanx for the ideas, I was thinking of trying android on it.
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So is there an Android ROM for the Titan somewhere?
I ran got a copy of it in this website
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
you unzip it to your sd card and run the exe file. I was disappointed since it runs on ram so its slooow and buggy but its worth looking at.
Flash it to Cricket then sell it. Cricket excepts bad ESNs. Or sell it to me.
limitless possibilities
1. it has wi-fi, so you have all the net
2. if you don't have wireless, you can use the new mogul as a wi-fi router, and you will have internet etc. which can all be run thru blue tooth. I am currently doing this with my working titan and an old blue angel. Really sweet!!!!!
3. it uses micro SD cards which are now cheaper than dirt. You can load Music galore and stream out thru BT, my wife is an avid reader and you can load a hell of a lot of books onto a 1-2G card
It can do damn near everything except make an independent phone call. You could probably VOIP it too.
Enjoy the free toy!!
Why can't it be activated? Is it on the bad list, if so that can sometimes be removed.
Without a network connection you wont get aGPS so no chance of instant gps lock. But it will still function reasonably well as a gps after you get a lock. I would recommend installing quickgps and htc gps tool and use it as a gps device (along with a off network gps program such as TomTom Nav, iNav, GarminXT etc.
It could also be a reasonable MP3/vid player but a lot bulkier than purpose built devices.
I like the idea of using it as a mini tablet pc and buy yourself on of those full size bluetooth keyboards (the virtual keyboard I mean, not the actual one).
Android hacking would be fun too.
I had the same problem, but I couldn't activate it because it wasn't a sprint phone...being with GSM I didn't know about that stupid rule.
so, I just flashed it with a cooked rom and sold it to someone with sprint.
Cut my losses, bought for 200 sold for 200...Never been so glad to get rid of a phone in my life.
VIOP
i didnt see anyone mention it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1516154&postcount=12
I would offer to send it to the guy developing the vogue port of Android so that he can have a titan to develop with which could help out the effort of getting Android on our devices and finally get rid of WinMo which is just bleh.
Thanx for all the input, I ended up selling it on ebay. I just couldn't see my self carrying 2 titans at the same time.
By the way is there a way to make the sprint mogul work on the nextel network? I'm already planing on moving to the touch pro but I dislike my work phone Nextel motorola i580 (the worst phone i've ever used). I know there is a way to put a sim card reader on the mogul but I also know that nextel uses iden instead of cdma.

Hero Wifi router???

I have a touch pro and going to upgrade to a hero or touch pro 2. i really like the hero however i am a heavy user of wm Wifi router on the touch pro so i can use the phone as a hot spot. i know the touch pro 2 can use this program, however is there a program like this for android? if so how good is it. WM wifi router is amazing, only thing bad is how bad it drains the battery but thats expected because of what its doing.
I think this is what you're looking for:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ
THANKS!!! thats exactly what i was looking for. even looks similar to WMwifi-router
anyone used it to see how well it works? if this works well im ditching the touch pro 2 and Windows mobile for the android and hero!!!
Works as expected, with decent battery consumption. If you look a few threads behind this one some people are having problems with the older release, install the latest build.
If you're on Sprint you'll have to wait till rooting is available for the CDMA hero.
Good luck
yeah im getting it for sprint....what do you mean by waiting for rooting on CDMA...those programs are only for the GSM version of the hero?
No, you need root access to change protected settings/files set by HTC. If you're a windows guy, think of it as administrator privileges.
Since the Sprint version has just been released, getting root access has not yet been discovered. We are all fairly certain that it will be, but it is a risky procedure that can brick your phone (I'm assuming that since you're here on xda you've already considered that).
Read the forums here for a bit and the answer will come
You could always try PdaNet for Android. It cost $29 after the trial is up, but doesn't require rooting. Not sure how well it works though since I haven't tried it.
I have never been able to get this working.
I have HTC Hero rooted (Android 1.5).
I have installed Wireless Thether 1.52.
I can run Wireless Tether noi prolbems.
Both my laptops can connect and get an IP address and Wireless Tehther shows them as connected.
However, I cannot connect to the internet. No routing appears to take place at all. I connot even ping the wireless interface of the hero from the laptop.
Anyone else had this or know the answer ?
USB tethering works beautifully but I would like to get this working too just because it's so cool
I'm Sprint guy as well, can't wait for this to be available.
sprint guy here too...looking for a way to simply tether the damn thing ...even with a cable would be nice??
dsjr2006 said:
You could always try PdaNet for Android. It cost $29 after the trial is up, but doesn't require rooting. Not sure how well it works though since I haven't tried it.
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Perfect. I used PdaNet on my Winmo phone and now that I have the Hero, this will be great.
I just checked. PDANet on android does not tether over wifi - only over USB which the Hero can do anyway.
Is there any option avaliable for phones which are not rooted?
Like TheBrit said, you can do this if you have the usb connected. Go under settings->wireless controls then check Mobile Network Sharing.
Ozym - exactly the same thing happens on my Hero. Gave up in the end.
To All -
Unless you would like to fork over the extra $15 a month to Sprint, simply going to settings->wireless controls then checking Mobile Network Sharing, does not work. At least it doesnt work for me any longer. I've been using HTC for the past year and a half (original Touch and then Touch Pro on unlimited data plan) neither had problems using Internet Sharing, but once I got the Hero and tried using the new Mobile Network Sharing all I get is "Failure to connect, Error code 65 and 67" I even called to ask why this feature isn't allowed any longer, the only response I got was that it must have been aglitch on my other phones, and that this feature costs extra. Damn I can not wait to finaly get ROOT access to this Sprint Hero. I miss my ability to jump on the internet anywhere I go.
ozym said:
I have never been able to get this working.
I have HTC Hero rooted (Android 1.5).
I have installed Wireless Thether 1.52.
I can run Wireless Tether noi prolbems.
Both my laptops can connect and get an IP address and Wireless Tehther shows them as connected.
However, I cannot connect to the internet. No routing appears to take place at all. I connot even ping the wireless interface of the hero from the laptop.
Anyone else had this or know the answer ?
USB tethering works beautifully but I would like to get this working too just because it's so cool
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It works fine on my Magic and Hero. Go in to settings of wifi tether by pressing menu and enable access control and also consider applyinng afterword by pressing menu again and apply. SECONDLY YOU MMAY MAKE IT SECURE BY GOING INTO MENU AND SETTINGS WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR OWN PASSPHRASE ETC.
i HOPE IT WORKS FOR YOU.
IMHO, the only "problem" with Wireless Tether is that it drains the battery very quickly. So quickly in fact that plugging it into the mains will not stop the battery from discharging!
Regards,
Dave
wotlos said:
To All -
Unless you would like to fork over the extra $15 a month to Sprint, simply going to settings->wireless controls then checking Mobile Network Sharing, does not work. At least it doesnt work for me any longer. I've been using HTC for the past year and a half (original Touch and then Touch Pro on unlimited data plan) neither had problems using Internet Sharing, but once I got the Hero and tried using the new Mobile Network Sharing all I get is "Failure to connect, Error code 65 and 67" I even called to ask why this feature isn't allowed any longer, the only response I got was that it must have been aglitch on my other phones, and that this feature costs extra. Damn I can not wait to finaly get ROOT access to this Sprint Hero. I miss my ability to jump on the internet anywhere I go.
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all the winmobile phones can go on because they were all hacked into the cooked roms.... meaning it was opened up for you.... NORMALLY you cannot do this with ANY phone, so asking sprint or telling them that you had it back then was not such a good idea IMO.
and for the hero users now, of course they do not have it...we barely just got this phone. myself, i came from winmobile... i been with windows all my life and i loved it. but since the hero came out, i loved this phone and the android os.
foxmeister said:
IMHO, the only "problem" with Wireless Tether is that it drains the battery very quickly. So quickly in fact that plugging it into the mains will not stop the battery from discharging!
Regards,
Dave
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I will second that!
By the way has anyone successfully used Bluetooth tethering? I couldnt figure it out. This way could be better on battery issue.
Regards.

Using TMO Android data package on the HD2? (Updated and Answered!)

Hey all, Well thought I would ask, havent tried it yet.. since I am too lazy to take my sim outta my G1 heh. I know when Tmobile changed me to the smartphone internet package, my G1 internet died. However I know people who have the Android package, can use settings like internet2.voicestream.com and get internet still.
So I am wondering does the HD2 work fully with the Android data package? Any features that wouldnt work? Ill prob try it myself over the weekend, but I plan to still use my G1 as my main device.
*Ok I just said hell with it, tried it myself. YES IT WORKS! So if you have a Android phone, keep using THAT data package. This way when you put your simcard in the HD2 you can use ALL features and YES in 3G! I was able to browse, mobitv, youtube, email, gmail push etc! All of it worked! So forget using the Smartphone package which WILL cut your G1 (Or similar) internet off. Keep the Android one and be able to use all internet no matter WHICH device you plug into! =D
Oh and the Wifi Router mode works too.
I'd be interested in this as well. Since I want to do some comparisons between the G1 and HD2.
i have my android internet on the Hd2 also didnt change anything and is running fine.
According to my plan I'm on Android (not sure why because it was the smartphone plan when I bought it) and it is working fine. This may just be a glitch in their system that is showing it that way since I'm still in the middle of a billing cycle that was mostly android.
Updated 1st post, It works. =D
i had to have them switch plans as android data did NOT work for my hd2. odd.
Well they had to switch me to the smart phone one when I upgraded, Then my G1 stopped, Then I called back to have them switch me back to the Android one, then today when I tried, yes it worked on my HD2, I activated my MobiTV, then tested everything, Now I put simcard back in my G1 (Since thats my main) but since Mobitv is activated, I can controll and use everything via Wifi. I plan to use my HD2 more as a pocket pc vs a phone.. Since my G1 can wifi tether to it too for on the go web. =D
Mysticales, I'm about try my Android plan with my HD2. I had them change it back earlier to get some data on my G1. If it works I won't have to ask them to change it back.
update: It works for me as well.

[Q] HD2 WIFI only?

I recently bought a second hand htc hd2 from t-mobile, and unlocked it to work with at&t. Everything works great but I'm having an issue with data.
I don't have a data plan with at&t, hell I don't even have texting. It's just a phone. What I really want to do is use this phone the way I use my ipod touch.
Since everywhere I go has wifi, the only time I am without a connection to teh interwebz is when I'm driving so It's not really that important.
My problem is that everything I use on this phone looks for a data connection first/only, instead of just using the wifi that is available to me. It tells me "BLAH, you don't have a data network, BLAH."
Is there a way to disable the phone from looking for a data network WITHOUT turning off the phone aspect of the device? I really just want it to look for wifi whenever I goto a facebook app, or the windows marketplace... yadda yadda.
The only thing on this phone that looks for wifi only is the opera mobile browser.
hmmdo you have a custom rom if so just just turn of data connections and keep WiFi on
A custom rom. ANY custom rom will do? Or, is there one for this specific set of circumstances?
MoirSolace said:
A custom rom. ANY custom rom will do? Or, is there one for this specific set of circumstances?
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I use Nrg roms for my device, make sure you follow all the HSpl stuff before installing a custom Rom, if you have Nrg roms, go to comm manager, and turn of data connections
Awesome. I will try this. Stupid question, I won't have to re-unlock this phone after doing these roms will I?
MoirSolace said:
Awesome. I will try this. Stupid question, I won't have to re-unlock this phone after doing these roms will I?
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Nope, but if your new to this, i would suggest you read the guides as you need to unlock the boot loader too, guys at the HD2 forum would gladly help you out
I use an HD2 on att with just wifi and pay per use data enabled for mms. I would highly suggest looking into using android on your HD2. I haven't had any issues with android apps requiring mobile network vs wifi network.

Can you still use Atrix for non-phone activities without a simcard?

Hello guys,
I've recently bought an AT&T atrix and waiting to receive it.
I was wondering if I can use the phone to do other things like browse internet via wifi while waiting for unlock code to be sent. (or will the phone be unusable until unlocked and simcard installed?)
I do have the IMEI sent from the seller, but I am too afraid that there may be a typo which would mean I would have to wait again when my phone arrives.
So it's a real dilemma.... If it can be used to do other things, I will wait to purchase the unlock code when i get the phone. If not, I will order now and hope that its 100% correct imei
Yes you can. I had to wait almost 6 days for my unlock code so I can painfully confirm this lol
On a related note, I have an Atrix as I'm using as my main phone. I'm also getting an Inspire as a backup, and as just an "F-around and hack to pieces" phone.
Is there a way to get a duplicate of my sim card to keep in the Inspire so that I don't have to physically swap sim cards everytime I want to use the other phone? I know I can use the Inspire over wifi, or even w/ a tetherered Atrix to use and access apps, etc.
What is everyone else who has two phones using their second phone for? Thanks!
Yea i got my unlock code in two days. And for cheap. Let me know if you need one OP
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kpfury said:
What is everyone else who has two phones using their second phone for? Thanks!
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You can always use the second phone (except for samsung galaxyees) as full time gps. ofcourse a gps app with maps included is required without a sim
dj13sins said:
You can always use the second phone (except for samsung galaxyees) as full time gps. ofcourse a gps app with maps included is required without a sim
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Do you know of any apps like that I can't find any?
some of gps apps i know that use preloaded maps are - CoPilot Live, iGo My Way, NDrive 11.
Also some apps don't support all phones (resolutions) and countries (maps). so make sure you check compatibility with your secondary phone.
i needed a sim card in the phone to do other operations, but the sim didn't need to be active.

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