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Unable to downgrade my SPL from 3.13 to 2.20

Hi there,
Hope you can help me...
Since i bought my Cruise, I flashed it to the newest ROM version of HTC and it automatically installed SPL 3.13 with.
The problem is that if I want to install the WM 6.5 rom, I have to "Downgrade" My SPL version from 3.13.0000 to 2.20.
I followed the steps explained by "Olipro", but when the upgrade starts, RUU kills activesync (seems to be normal) and when the phone normally reboots in bootloader mode (like when you flash a new rom), nothing happens. The phone didn't shutdown and tries to establish a new USB connection !
I tried to turn manually the phone in bootloader mode on to force the SPL update, but the % bar stays at 0 and RUU returns a communication error (262).
I tried also to install the wm 6.5 rom without install SPL 2.2, but it crashes (stays @ 0% too)
I don't know how to install this stinky version of HARD SPL.
Heeeellllpppp !!
NOTE : I tried with or without µSd, does the same thing.
Thx

hmm try disabling firewall and antivirus one of them may be blocking the connection. Thats my only thought about it.

Thank you for the answer but it don't work...

Nobody can help me ?

Try to extract the files from the newest htc rom to a new folder, and then copy the "RUU_Signed.nbh" from the SPL V2 folder to the extracted files (to the new folder) and run the "ROMUpdateUtility.exe" from the extracted files (from the new folder).

nope ...

Please, consider my asks...
I know there is necessarily a solution but I have not yet found.
I don't know where/why it is crashing.
What does the HTC need to downgrade the hardspl ?
Is there a protection that can't be bypassed with the 3.13 ?
The only thing that I can do atm, is flashing the official HTC rom (useless ^^).
The actual version of my rom is :
_HTC Touch Cruise_RUU_Polaris_HTC_FRA_3.13.406.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship
Thanking you in advance...

Pixel69 said:
Please, consider my asks...
I know there is necessarily a solution but I have not yet found.
I don't know where/why it is crashing.
What does the HTC need to downgrade the hardspl ?
Is there a protection that can't be bypassed with the 3.13 ?
The only thing that I can do atm, is flashing the official HTC rom (useless ^^).
The actual version of my rom is :
_HTC Touch Cruise_RUU_Polaris_HTC_FRA_3.13.406.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship
Thanking you in advance...
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HSPL 3.13? In this ROM is ver. 3.13 drivers, not HSPL... If you have original ROM and you dont install Olipros HPSL, you have original HTC SPL...

When I enter bootloader mode, the HSPL version is : 3.13.0000
Of course it's the original htc HSPL.
The problem is that I can't downgrade it to the olipro's version : 2.20.

Did you try it on other PC?

2 PCs, 2 USB cables..
The official rom upgrade works fine, I dont think that the problem comes from the computer.

definite guide:
1. establish a connection with activesync via usb (orbit2 to pc)
2. start the romupdateutility provided in hardspl folder.
3. before it starts flashing, you need to also follow on-screen instructions on orbit2!!! execute jump-spl and stuff: click yes on orbit2!!
4. when the orbit2 states: Replug USB. you need to plug the usb-cable once off and then put it back to connect to your pc.
5. it starts flashing and restarts after its done.

Hi Manaaa,
I don't know what is jumpslp ??
I found it on the web (xda..), copied it in my "my documents" folder, ran it but it asks me a jump address (default is 0x00000000) and an spl (*nb) file..
What is jump spl ? What is the address to jump to? and where can I find the *nb file ?
In the olipro's hspl folder is only a *nbh file.
Thank you

I wouldn't recommend using a jump spl for our phones if there isn't one in the Hardspl Pack then one is not needed to be run.
Personally im still really confused by this so if i get it straight.
You are synced with activesync.
Run the file for Hardspl Run RomUpdateUtility.exe
Then go though. It switches off activesync.
Then what?? Exactly Does it ask you to replug the cable? Do you get the rom flash screen (with %) at all??
Also i dont think that spl flashes can be run from the booloader as it has to be a modded bootloader (jumpspl if you will), loaded by the program to be able to flash the new hardspl.
Also i know very little on this, this is as much as i understand it to be.

chris10230 said:
You are synced with activesync. OK
Run the file for Hardspl Run RomUpdateUtility.exe OK
Then go though. It switches off activesync. OK
Then what?? Exactly Does it ask you to replug the cable? NO
Do you get the rom flash screen (with %) at all?? NO
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Normally, after killing activesync, the phone turns into bootloader mode. Mine stays in winCE and tries to establish new usb connection...
I also decided to force manually bootloader mode and killing activesync by myself.
I ran RUU again, it first checked the phone state (such as battery >50%, connectivity...)
CHECK : OK
Next step, by clicking "NEXT" on the RUU interface, the phone turns in "% mode" and the update starts but stays at 0%.
After a while, RUU returns an update error (such as 262).
Noway to flash hardSPL :'-( , v3.13 seems to be "write protected".

ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR
This error occurs during the CE ROM code upgrade process. If this happens, you can just soft reset the device and run RUU again. The update process will then continue. At this stage the rom on the device is incomplete and it will not boot back up into Windows. You will need to place it into the bootloader to continue.
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That is what error 262 is but really dont see why this happens either. And since you can boot into windows its not much help.
So it just wont go to flash it when you click it through, hmm
Your last resort would be to PM cmonex as she will have helped make this with oilpro. Ask and see if she can shed some light on this one. Maybe something has gone wrong somewhere (quite likely) that we don't know how to fix.
Stupid question but have you tried downloading, unzipping it again? May have been a bad dl... or unzip

Have tested it with about 10# DLs...
I PM'd Olipro, waiting for a response now

Flash back to HardSPL and don't Re-Plug
Hi Pixel,
Herewith are guide for you
1) Flash back to HardSPL and don't re-plug until end of session (5 minutes)
2) Flash back to original SPL 3.13 on this post . This original SPL for HTC Touch Cruise only
3) After you do this you cannot flash with other Cooked ROM or Shipped ROM
with different ID, unless you flash back to HardSPL
Good Luck my friend

I have exactely in the same configuration as Pixel69 with the same result.
I've tried to an other PC without any change.
Has somebody any idea?

Just had an idea what OS are you running to do it?
If its not 7 may not be fully compatible... Shot in the dark really

Unable to flash new rom after instal HARDSPL 3

I just got new device, and I have installed HSPL 3 successfuly.
Now I am trying to install a new coocked rom and I got the follwoung error:
ERROR 266 - The update ultility cannot get respond from your pda, check USB connection...
I have tried Hard reset, I have tried flash directly from flash format menu (HARD RESET while volume button is down) and with no success
In the phone I can see that it connect by writing USB on the buttom.
Any solutions ? Any idea ?

some basic triage:
1- when you manually go into bootloader, it shows hspl correct? (i assume so, but have to ask...) if you haven't done so, do and make sure it is there.
2- what rom are you trying to flash?
3- also, you can flash a rom via usb after manually entering bootloader. have you tried that?

First follow jsmccabe's steps. If you still havent figured it out...
- Make sure it says 2.08.hspl in bootloader, not 2.08.0000
- Make sure you are flashing correctly, put the customRUU or flashoholicRUU (whatever your using) in a folder with the ROM.nbh, connect the device to pc via active sync, run the utility. If still gettin error 266 try from bootloader.
- Try flashing from SD
- Try running as administrator
- Try a different ROM or redownloading the ROM

I tried to flash different roms include RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_3.14.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.42.50.09U_2.14.50.04_2_Ship
In bootloader it appears correctly with SPL-2/08.HSPL 8G XE, and in the white eare it write Serial in in the begining and when I try to flash it change to USB.
Another thing is when I try reflash HSPL3_PKG - I can, it flash...
I tried the follwoing to flash from SD-Card and it stay on Serial - it didn't start falshing..
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Any other options?

I downgrade my pc to XP and it's working...

sagytb said:
I downgrade my pc to XP and it's working...
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congrats! interesting...i have vista and have never had that problem (fingers crossed!)

jsmccabe78 said:
congrats! interesting...i have vista and have never had that problem (fingers crossed!)
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I use to have a problem with Vista but when I switched to Win 7 everything is fine like XP.

i seem to be having what might be a similar issue... tried flashing new radio, ruu couldnt connect even though usb showed on tri color screen, recovered on its own, tried again and same thing... gave up, then all of a sudden when i lock phone, it will not unlock, everything is still coming in, emails texts etc... but i cant unlock, only started happening after 2 failed flashes. im running kumar premium and shubcraft 1.2... radio is 2.10... i dont know what to do... is it an ruu issue, a laptop issue or a rom issue or radio issue??? i have to pull battery everytime i lock...

paolodoctolero said:
I use to have a problem with Vista but when I switched to Win 7 everything is fine like XP.
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Were your running it as Administrator? That is the only thing that I can think of. I have Vista on one of my laptops and it works fine.

crisisinthecity said:
Were your running it as Administrator? That is the only thing that I can think of. I have Vista on one of my laptops and it works fine.
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Yea that's usually the biggest problem. Also compatibility troubleshooter (or whatever its called) helps (although I think I've used it only once).

Bricked or?

Hi there
I got an HD2 from a friend (he bought off ebay) and seems to just boot to the Tmobile sticking together logo and won't boot.
I don't think it charges as well...
there was no lines (radio?) at the bottom of the Sticking Together pink square screen...
is this phone bricked? or can I still flash a rom?

Ok try this, turn the phone off then hold the low volume botton n the power botton at the same time, n if it takes u to the bootloader then u r good, just search on how to install a rom of ur choise, good luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

froibet said:
Hi there
I got an HD2 from a friend (he bought off ebay) and seems to just boot to the Tmobile sticking together logo and won't boot.
I don't think it charges as well...
there was no lines (radio?) at the bottom of the Sticking Together pink square screen...
is this phone bricked? or can I still flash a rom?
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Well the fact that it will even turn on means it is not bricked. A bricked HD2 will not even turn on the most it will do is flash tihe led light and vibrait a couple of times.
Follow the instructions of the above post and pull up bootloader, if bootloader comes up you can save the HD2. Depending on if you want to flash a official srock ROM or a custom ROM to the HD2 will dictate your next step.
If you want a official stock ROM then just download and flash the official update from T-Mobile.com just type in HTC HD2 update in the search box on the home page and you will find it. You will have to enter the IMEI number to download it wich you can find this number behind the battery. To flash it connect the HD2 to a computer via USB cable while in bootloader and wait for the serial in the white bar at the bottom of the bootloader screen to change to USB and the computer to show it recognizes the HD2 then run the update utility and follow all the on screen instructions.
If you want to flash a custom ROM as in custom Windows Mobile, NAND Andriod ROM, or Windows Phone 7 ROM then you will have to flash HSPL to the HD2. Download HSPL4 and flash 2.08 HSPL if hou want to flash a NAND Andriod ROM as MAGLDR only supports 2.08 HSPL. Or a Windows Phone 7 Rom, or flash 3.03 if you just want to flash a custom Windows Mobile ROM.
Now if you want a NAND Andriod ROM or Windows Phone 7 you will have to download MAGLDR and flash it to the HD2.
If you want a custom Windows Mobile ROM download the ROM of your choice and fladh it using the .exe or RUU wich ever one the ROM has. Note do all flashing of what I have previously mentioned via the method I mentioned before.
If you are wanting to flash a NAND Andriod ROM or Windows Phone 7 ROM then download the ROM of your coice and flash it using MAGLDR and the instructions of the ROM developer in thread for the ROM.
Now this is very important. I see from the picture you have a T-Mobile(TMOUS) HD2 so no matter what you do, do not flash a ROM with a radio version that reads like these 2.04.50.xx, 2.05.50.xx, or any radio that is x.xx.51.xx they will brick/kill a TMOUS HD2.

froibet said:
Hi there
I got an HD2 from a friend (he bought off ebay) and seems to just boot to the Tmobile sticking together logo and won't boot.
I don't think it charges as well...
there was no lines (radio?) at the bottom of the Sticking Together pink square screen...
is this phone bricked? or can I still flash a rom?
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I would recommend flashing a stock T-Mobile ROM, since that appears to be the flavor of the phone. This will install the correct radio. Once the phone is working, continue as per normal for flashing the ROM. You will have to reinstall hardspl.

thanks for the info guys! i really appreciate the support!
it seems like it won't read the USB... is the port busted?

froibet said:
thanks for the info guys! i really appreciate the support!
it seems like it won't read the USB... is the port busted?
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try this:
1) download your stock ROM.
2) put it on your SD card via a card reader, you want an .NBH file.
3) rename the file LEOIMG.NBH
4) make sure the phone is off, make sure your SD card is back in your phone.
5) hold down and power
6) it should go to a tri-color screen and say something about flashing the image, hit power to confirm
7) it should flash no problems.
MAKE SURE YOU DOWNLOAD THE CORRECT ROM FOR A TMOBILE US HD2

Have exactly the same problem with my friends phone.
Its a TMOUS and sticks on the same boot screen.
He screwed it up when trying to install Android NAND on it.
I can enter bootloader And I have managed to get rid of MAGLDR and CWM.
I have HSPL 3.03 installed on it, but when I try to install the latest ROM from TMOUS it fails at 8% and tells me that
'ERROR 290: INVALID COMMAND
This update Utility cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please check your update utility'
Tried copying the relevant file to the SD card and renaming it leoimg.nbh but the install fails HERE aswell with the error:
"RADIO_V2 - RSA Fail"
I managed to install an energyrom onto it, but it wouldnt go past the initial boot screen
Any help appreciated

Boradan said:
Have exactly the same problem with my friends phone.
Its a TMOUS and sticks on the same boot screen.
He screwed it up when trying to install Android NAND on it.
I can enter bootloader And I have managed to get rid of MAGLDR and CWM.
I have HSPL 3.03 installed on it, but when I try to install the latest ROM from TMOUS it fails at 8% and tells me that
'ERROR 290: INVALID COMMAND
This update Utility cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please check your update utility'
Tried copying the relevant file to the SD card and renaming it leoimg.nbh but the install fails HERE aswell with the error:
"RADIO_V2 - RSA Fail"
I managed to install an energyrom onto it, but it wouldnt go past the initial boot screen
Any help appreciated
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Try running a Task 29 on your friends HD2. This willtotally clean out the NAND memory of the HD2 and reformat it, kinda sounds like that is what is needed to be done. He may have messed the NAND memory format up when he was trying to install the Andriod. You will have to reflash a Windows Mobile ROM after you run the Task 29 as it will not ha e a ROM on the phone then. You will not have to reflash HSPL cause it will not remove it.

It seems that the problem is RADIO related. I can task 29, and I can install The latest Energyrom, but I CANT install a radio.
There is no radio ON the phone at the minute it seems. When I try to do a radio install, it asks me if I want to go from version ' ' to the update I am using.
None of the installers see a radio on the phone, and trying to install the radio always fails at 96%. This would seem to be the same if I try to install the official TMOUS latest ROM with radio from SD Card. It fails at the radio install part.......
Maybe time for a new thread for this one.......

orangekid said:
try this:
1) download your stock ROM.
2) put it on your SD card via a card reader, you want an .NBH file.
3) rename the file LEOIMG.NBH
4) make sure the phone is off, make sure your SD card is back in your phone.
5) hold down and power
6) it should go to a tri-color screen and say something about flashing the image, hit power to confirm
7) it should flash no problems.
MAKE SURE YOU DOWNLOAD THE CORRECT ROM FOR A TMOBILE US HD2
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i can do all this without connecting to the PC? just flashes from the SD card???

froibet said:
i can do all this without connecting to the PC? just flashes from the SD card???
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Yes you can flash radio and ROM from your SD card. Here is a link to the thread on doing this gives step by step, check it out.

[Q] What i can do please?

Hi everyone! At first sorry because my english is not better than my french
My problem: I have an HTC hd2 with a white screen and the SPL 1.42.0000 (i can go to bootloader). I google it and can't find any solution, i tried to instal HSPL (with hspl2/3/4) without success (usb fail connection) i have the same error with an task29, and an hd2toolkit. I tried to instal from sdcard but i have the error "radio v2 fail".
I think this is a problem at height of XDA developers ^^
PS:I tried to change Computer or usb port and execute as administrator but nothing...
If you coul help me it will be realy nice.

is the phone recognized in device manager? If not its a driver problem.
also do the usual ( verify its not the usb cable, try different usb port,) if drivers are ok

thank you for your help
The computer recognize the device but without OS (white screen) i can't do anythings with Activesync, i tried other computers and other usb port/cable but nothing. I think isn't a driver's problem because the instalation with sd card don't work.

Anis92 said:
The computer recognize the device but without OS (white screen) i can't do anythings with Activesync, i tried other computers and other usb port/cable but nothing. I think isn't a driver's problem because the instalation with sd card don't work.
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Don't understand what you mean by "white screen"?
Try installing a stock winmo for you device to make sure everything is ok...

i tried to instal an official htc rom from sd card but it doesn't work, by "white screen" i just wanted to say that when i turn on my phone the screen is white.

It sounds like you have done a Task 29 and you do not have a ROM on your HD2 right now. This is why you just boot to the white screen.
You do npot have to use Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Center to flash via RUU. You just have to have them installed because the haqve the USB drivers for the HD2's WINCE Bootloader in the programs and they install the drivers when you install the program.
The drivers in Active Sync and WMDC allow you to have a HTC Sync connection in the bootloader. Just boot into the bootloader by holding down the volume down button while powering on yuour HD2. Next connect your HD2 to your computer via USB cable. Wait and watch for the Serial in the white bar of the bootloader to change to USB. When you see USB you can run a RUU.
Now to address your 1.42.0000 SPL, this is a older SPL version and you may have to keep trying different RUUs until you get one that will flash. Just make sure if you have a T-Mobile HD2 that you do not flash any radio version below 2.08.50.?? or any radio version that has a 51 in the radio where the 50 is in the first radio I mentioned, or you will brick your T-Mobile HD2. Look for the radio version in the RUU name it will be there.
Sometimes the HD2 develops what is referred to as a "stuck radio" when they have these early SPL versions like yours. This is why I say you may just have to keep trying different RUUs until you find one that will flash.

[Q] Tmous or Eu? need help

Dear Dev's / members
I have problem with this HD2 and cannot find a solution yet!
first thing first. is this a Tmobile of Eu mobile?
i tried flashing factory RUU but after 1% it gives an error saying Radio failed.
tried flash quite a few radio's but still after 100% it says radio fail.
tried flashing from USB cable
tried flashing from SD with leoimg.nbh
no luck.
the guy was using android on it until yesterday. may be he tried to flash a wrong Rom which brick the phone. now only white screen appears.
i can go to bootloader mode but no luck in flashing any thing at all.

Looks like EU model as no logo near earpiece.
if also has white markings on call & end key that would help confirm EU.
If trying to install .nbh file from SD it will overwrite HSPL so check current SPL status in bootloader.
If still on HSPL 2.08 try flashing an NRG WM6.5 ROM & see what happens (they have no radio so if completes then try radio flash if needed, try via USB them SD if USB fails.
Do you get an error code when it fails via RUU ?

thanks for helping mr. B
the error i get is (270) and yes it have white markings on all the buttons. so its confirm EU model. by NRG rom you mean Energy Roms? i tried earlier the energy Rom but no luck. after 1% it gives error.
cannot try mtty method as i'm on windows 7 and in windows 7, it's not showing the USB port. it's radio is corrupted. i think someone must have flashed a wrong Rom.

What standard ROM have you got ? if it a 3.14 rom try connecting HD2 via USB & use HSPL4 toolkit to install HSPL 3.03 & if that installs then try the 3.14 ROM via USB & RUU.
Also eliminate simple issues such as lead & USB port by switching port & using a different USB lead.
Windows 7 64bit ? worth trying another PC & 32bit if can as WMDC drivers on 64bit can be a pain for flashing ...

windows 7 32bit. tried flashing hspl 4 and it says complete but in bootloader it shows 2.08 only. i guess gold card method will solve the problem but it's too complicated. any other suggestions?

i would search for task29 and format the phone back to virgin default then download a windows rom from htc via the downloads page on there website for the phone ,then if it works re task29 it then put android on it with the htc hd2 tool kit witch has every thing other than rom (all u need to do is task29 it then go back to the boot loader and run the ruu rom)

samuel79 said:
i would search for task29 and format the phone back to virgin default then download a windows rom from htc via the downloads page on there website for the phone ,then if it works re task29 it then put android on it with the htc hd2 tool kit witch has every thing other than rom (all u need to do is task29 it then go back to the boot loader and run the ruu rom)
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No do not run a Task 29 the device. I say this for two reasons, one if you flash the Stock Windows Mobile ROM via RUU the RUU will run a Task 28 before installing the ROM witch is pretty much the same as a Task 29. The second reason is that if you run a Task 29 it will remove the current ROM on the device so it will not have a working ROM anymore. If after the Task 29 you can not get another ROM installed on it the you will not be able to use the device at all anymore.

why not he thinks its bricked so there is no difference if he cant get a rom on it

samuel79 said:
why not he thinks its bricked so there is no difference if he cant get a rom on it
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No the device is not bricked, a bricked device will not even turn on at all, no vibrations no nothing.
At jacktackle, try to find the earliest stock Rom RUU for your HD2 and try to flash it. It is possible you have what is reffered to as a stuck radio.The only fixI have seen for this is to flash a older ROM version with a older SPL version. If the earliest ROM version does not work start working your way up one version at a time and you might get lucky and get one that will flash.

thanks for all the help guys. but nothing worked. tried flashed old ruu's but reboots at 1% this radio is screwed up. hspl 2.08 is not upgrading nor downgrading. sd card update not working. i guess thats it. will give it back to him so that he can showcase it
first time ever i'm un successful. bad luck! may this LEO rest in peace. 'amen'

jacktackle said:
thanks for all the help guys. but nothing worked. tried flashed old ruu's but reboots at 1% this radio is screwed up. hspl 2.08 is not upgrading nor downgrading. sd card update not working. i guess thats it. will give it back to him so that he can showcase it
first time ever i'm un successful. bad luck! may this LEO rest in peace. 'amen'
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Before you give it back you can find some of the old test ROMs for the EU or for the TMOUS depending on which version of the HD2 it is. Just make sure if it is a TMOUS that you do not flash a rom version that has a 51 radio with it. Just look at the RUU name and the radio version is in the name. If that does not work then the only fix will be to replace the mainboard cause JTAG would not fix the problem.