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I played with nexus s

I went to best buy and actually played with a nexus s for a while. All I need to say is wow. Its a really incredible phone if anyone has any questions ask I can tell u anytthing concerning the phone.
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Is the GUI really responsive as Google claims to be?

What are missed call/message/etc alert like without the tackball?

Is scrolling in the browser accelerated? Any choppiness at all like froyo browser at this forum?

That's all fine and good, but there is no way I can get excited when i'm reading things like this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-officially-announces-tegra-2-dual-core-optimus-2x
I'm not upgrading with dual core literally right around the corner. The only way I'll pry Nexus One out of my hand is with a true upgrade.
To quote AC "It's a new era, folks." and the NS didn't make it...

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That's all fine and good, but there is no way I can get excited when i'm reading things like this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-officially-announces-tegra-2-dual-core-optimus-2x
I'm not upgrading with dual core literally right around the corner. The only way I'll pry Nexus One out of my hand is with a true upgrade.
To quote AC "It's a new era, folks." and the NS didn't make it...
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I tend to agree with you, but I'm still going to Best Buy tomorrow to play with the Nexus S and see how Gingerbread performs. The stores near me have around 35 in stock each. I hope it doesn't perform really well, it might cause my credit card to slip out of my wallet accidentally.

Was the curve screen prominent? What difference did you see in the touchscreen?

I wonder if the Nexus One will still get updates after Gingerbread is released now that the Nexus S is on the scene.

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I think it will. Nexus One specs are still meeting or exceeding Android phones today. Plus not every new phone in 2011 will be dual core.
Now will it run every app? That remains to be seen. Already we're not going to get the full Google Maps experience.

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Was the curve screen prominent? What difference did you see in the touchscreen?
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This and is it curved only in one direction or it's totally caved in? Coz I suppose putting on a screen protector might not be easy with a caved in screen. You can't use a flat screen protector in that case unless they make the protector curved as well.

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This and is it curved only in one direction or it's totally caved in? Coz I suppose putting on a screen protector might not be easy with a caved in screen. You can't use a flat screen protector in that case unless they make the protector curved as well.
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It's only curved lengthwise: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays

How durable does the screen feel. I read somewhere Gorilla Glass couldn't make a cover that would work on it. Better yet if someone could key the crap out of a demo and report back that'd be awsome too.

The glass is flat and smooth and actually felt like it was scratch resistent
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Boot up time is less than 5 seconds and it is more responsive and faster than my nexus one being overclocked
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Boot up time is less than 5 seconds and it is more responsive and faster than my nexus one being overclocked
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you sure? i cannot believe that bootup will take 5 sec after installing some apps. hell i can't even believe it'll take 5 seconds without any 3rd party app...
and my definition if bootup is: homescreen is setup and ready to go. because aufter seing the homescreen it'll still load a lot of stuff in the backgroud, therefore it's important to count in the time until you can really use the device.

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you sure? i cannot believe that bootup will take 5 sec after installing some apps. hell i can't even believe it'll take 5 seconds without any 3rd party app...
and my definition if bootup is: homescreen is setup and ready to go. because aufter seing the homescreen it'll still load a lot of stuff in the backgroud, therefore it's important to count in the time until you can really use the device.
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There are numerous videos displaying the boot speed of gingie...
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You made feel like going to buy one now..
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Lol 5 second bootup is insane, 5 seconds is taken to load spl, radio and the start the sysinit. Idk how he got 5 second bootup. Maybe from the bootanimation?

Does the phone have swype?

Had my epic for a week now.

Well I pick up my Epic a week ago and wanted to just write my opinion on it. So far this is the most amazing phone I've owned. I came from the EVO and I can't believe how much better this is.
The screen while smaller is so much more crisp and vivid. The SAMOLED screen really makes a difference and the 0.3in smaller screen really is no biggie. It is also every bit as responsive.
The device itself is every bit as responsive in every way as well. Processor speeds are both 1ghz but I think I may actually run faster on my epic.
Overall I could not be happier with the device, I only wish I would have got it when it launched instead of the EVO....better late than never though.
Anyone considering this phone should jump at the chance. I give it a 10 out of 10, and with only paying $75 for mine, there is no reason not to grab one up.
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Glad to see that our phone is still appreciated after all this time. I have had mines since Dec 2010 and is currently eligible for a upgrade but having trouble finding a replacement. I am thinking about getting the Galaxy Nexus or LG Nexus 4 (If it ever comes to Sprint).
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It is very appreciated, this is actually my first none HTC smartphone (have had the Touch Pro 2, Hero, EVO, and EVO 3D) so I was actually apprehensive about it at first. Almost got another EVO actually, but now I am SO glad that I didn't.
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Yep I had a Touch Pro 1 and 2....You will like this phone. Hopefully the development will still continue.
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Cool, HTC's are so hacker/developer unfriendly, with Samsung you basically flash one thing and you are done. With HTC, you have to do all kinds of BS.

I've actually noticed that. With the EVO I was always flashing something, with this all I have needed to do was flash one CM10 nightly and have been good to go.
Though I think I might look into overclocking at some point just because I like things to go faster than necessary, lol.
Only thing I can gripe about so far though is how hard it was to get odin to recognize the phone. Took 3 usb cables, 2 computers, and a total of 6 different usb ports.
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Bloodwar1988 said:
I've actually noticed that. With the EVO I was always flashing something, with this all I have needed to do was flash one CM10 nightly and have been good to go.
Though I think I might look into overclocking at some point just because I like things to go faster than necessary, lol.
Only thing I can gripe about so far though is how hard it was to get odin to recognize the phone. Took 3 usb cables, 2 computers, and a total of 6 different usb ports.
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Just use a blackberry cable and you will be good to go never have a problem. Just winblows and drivers suck.

Bloodwar1988 said:
Well I pick up my Epic a week ago and wanted to just write my opinion on it. So far this is the most amazing phone I've owned. I came from the EVO and I can't believe how much better this is.
The screen while smaller is so much more crisp and vivid. The SAMOLED screen really makes a difference and the 0.3in smaller screen really is no biggie. It is also every bit as responsive.
The device itself is every bit as responsive in every way as well. Processor speeds are both 1ghz but I think I may actually run faster on my epic.
Overall I could not be happier with the device, I only wish I would have got it when it launched instead of the EVO....better late than never though.
Anyone considering this phone should jump at the chance. I give it a 10 out of 10, and with only paying $75 for mine, there is no reason not to grab one up.
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This post takes me back to November 2010... ahhhh, good times!

I love my epic I have had a G2, mt3gs, HD2, and NS4g. Overall the epic has outmatched them all other than the data on the NS4G. I can't live without my physical keyboard it is so much more intuitive than a fake and slow virtual one. I think the "unbrickable" aspect of this device is nuts! With the ability to Odin back to stock or fix your radio is imperative on any device. Not to mention our phone has gone from 2.2, 2.3, 4.0.4 and now 4.1.1! What other phone has had the life of that!??! Who could also forget the plethora of roms that have existed and are yet to come! Our devs and the folks at samsung have outdone themselves!!! Great to have a phone and community that is truly epic!!!!!
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tazfanatic said:
Just use a blackberry cable and you will be good to go never have a problem. Just winblows and drivers suck.
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Yeah any micro usb should do the trick just be aware some pc's don't like to connect when its mad at a cord so try hooking it up but leave the batter out and it might do the trick if that happens.
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@zac - the Epic is slightly more amazing than you realized - we started with android 2.1
Come to think of it, flash capability was the big deal with the 2.2 upgrade, which means that the Epic is one of the few phones that have seen both the birth and death of flash on android during it's life cycle of active development
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Also, it's not too big of a difference to me, but the latest nightlies of cm10 have been 4.1.2
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jeffreyjicha said:
Also, it's not too big of a difference to me, but the latest nightlies of cm10 have been 4.1.2
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Yep yep, that is what I am running now. Last time I had CM it was CM6 (WAY back in the day). So it is sweet to see what has come of it. Can't wait to see what it will turn in to from this point.
Also, after playing around with the Epic for a week and a half, I am pretty sure I will never own a non-samsung phone again. I just love the crap out of this phone, haha.

Kitteh298 said:
Cool, HTC's are so hacker/developer unfriendly, with Samsung you basically flash one thing and you are done. With HTC, you have to do all kinds of BS.
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I have an EVO 3d, which was my kids' before he went and lost the privilege of having a phone.... rooting it sucked. I used it for a couple of weeks before I reactivated my epic. Now I'm thinking of going back to it.... I finally shattered my screen. Practically threw it at the driveway (it was dropping, I tried to grab it and smacked it into the driveway). Corner is shattered, by the search button. Still works, but the glass is starting to come out. Don't have the money for a deductible.... The EVO3d is not a *bad* phone, I just like the way Sammy makes their phones better than the HTC.

toolegit said:
I have an EVO 3d, which was my kids' before he went and lost the privilege of having a phone.... rooting it sucked. I used it for a couple of weeks before I reactivated my epic. Now I'm thinking of going back to it.... I finally shattered my screen. Practically threw it at the driveway (it was dropping, I tried to grab it and smacked it into the driveway). Corner is shattered, by the search button. Still works, but the glass is starting to come out. Don't have the money for a deductible.... The EVO3d is not a *bad* phone, I just like the way Sammy makes their phones better than the HTC.
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Wow that's exactly where my phone is shattered...I've also noticed the crack that's extended onto the screen gets bigger by the week...maybe the glass around the search is the weakest spot lol my phone dropped from a counter while I was in the shower and landed face first and it only shattered on the search lol
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toolegit said:
I have an EVO 3d, which was my kids' before he went and lost the privilege of having a phone.... rooting it sucked. I used it for a couple of weeks before I reactivated my epic. Now I'm thinking of going back to it.... I finally shattered my screen. Practically threw it at the driveway (it was dropping, I tried to grab it and smacked it into the driveway). Corner is shattered, by the search button. Still works, but the glass is starting to come out. Don't have the money for a deductible.... The EVO3d is not a *bad* phone, I just like the way Sammy makes their phones better than the HTC.
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I have also noticed that Samsung appears to make a better device. I have accidentally sent this phone flying once (dog got caught on the USB cable) and it did nothing to the phone, had my EVO 3D drop from about hip height once and it knocked one (the bottom) camera out of alignment rendering the 3D camera worthless.
Overall I am just kicking myself for not trying out other brands of smartphones before I jumped into being an HTC fanboy, lol.

Had mine for about 2 weeks now, got a great deal on it traded a Samsung intercept. Though the screen has a crack on top left corner but don't hurt it none. Came from a Motorola triumph and this phone is way better, only thing triumph had was I could over clock it to 1.7 and ran smooth. But doesn't compare to having a cm10 I can use as a daily driver. Great devs on this phone :thumbup:
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Wow that's exactly where my phone is shattered...I've also noticed the crack that's extended onto the screen gets bigger by the week...maybe the glass around the search is the weakest spot lol my phone dropped from a counter while I was in the shower and landed face first and it only shattered on the search lol
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I've noticed my crack getting bigger too.... part of the glass above the search button is falling out.
Bloodwar1988 said:
I have also noticed that Samsung appears to make a better device. I have accidentally sent this phone flying once (dog got caught on the USB cable) and it did nothing to the phone, had my EVO 3D drop from about hip height once and it knocked one (the bottom) camera out of alignment rendering the 3D camera worthless.
Overall I am just kicking myself for not trying out other brands of smartphones before I jumped into being an HTC fanboy, lol.
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I feel the same way. While I wouldn't say I'm a Sammy fanboy, I do look at theirs first. Had the Moment, loved it. Now the Epic. I looked at the EVO, although not very hard. When the GS3 came out, I couldn't wait for my upgrade to come through. Fortunately I've got until February, so I can't rush into a new phone. Now I'm taking time looking at all the phones, and hopefully will make a good choice.... Guess we'll see though. But I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the GS3.

toolegit said:
I've noticed my crack getting bigger too.... part of the glass above the search button is falling out.
I feel the same way. While I wouldn't say I'm a Sammy fanboy, I do look at theirs first. Had the Moment, loved it. Now the Epic. I looked at the EVO, although not very hard. When the GS3 came out, I couldn't wait for my upgrade to come through. Fortunately I've got until February, so I can't rush into a new phone. Now I'm taking time looking at all the phones, and hopefully will make a good choice.... Guess we'll see though. But I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the GS3.
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A tiny piece of my glass finally broke off a couple days ago...REAL tiny but nonetheless its gone lol. I've had this same epic since it came out. Sprint won't fix the glass. I have to pay the deductible for a whole new phone just to fix a screen. Tep used to be great where you just walk in, wait an hour and walk out with a fresh screen
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For broken screens you can just hop on eBay and for somewhere in the area of $40 you can get a new screen and sometimes a whole new phone.
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Has anyone here noticed the capacitative buttons aren't as responsive as they used to be after 2+ years? Maybe it's my skinomi protector.. I have two epic 4gs. One for my daily driver and one for messing around. They both have skins on them, but one seems much more responsive on the button presses than the other. Especially the menu button.

My journey back to the one

So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Why exchange the one in the first place?

Why did you exchange it the first time?
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Some must take that journey of learning to realise that what what one had is better than what one must have but the grass is never greener on the other side

ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Same adventure for me hahahaah

tonypello said:
Same adventure for me hahahaah
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I'm actually thinking about returning my htc one. For the fact that it gets too hot in the hand, and the power button and vol buttons are a bit akward for daily use. did you get the heating issue as well?

ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Im sorry that you had a bad device experience with the S4. But I have to tell you, the S4 is far and away from laggy at all. Even in stock form. Several people that I know and many more on this site would tell you differently. I am going to say that either an app that you use caused the lagg, or the phone was a lemon. Heck, I have my S4 packed to the gills with apps and it is under clocked as well. And I get zero lagg.
Now, as far as the iPhone is concerned, I do not blame you in the least for getting rid of it. The company that I work for gave me an iPhone. After using it for a couple of months. I practically ready to smash it. So, I convinced them to purchase me an S4. For now and as far as a phone is concerned, I could not be happier.
Regardles the One seems as though it is a good phone. There are two things stopping me from owning it. This one is a big one. It is not on the Verizon network. And two, it does not have a micro SD card slot.
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I was an iPhone user some time back, then I got my first Android the Nexus One... (also made by htc)
never going back to stupid iOS hehehe
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sasoq said:
I'm actually thinking about returning my htc one. For the fact that it gets too hot in the hand, and the power button and vol buttons are a bit akward for daily use. did you get the heating issue as well?
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Not sure what awkward would mean, but the one heats just as any phone does, but the aluminum traps it and absorbs it more than say, plastic. That's not to say the phone itself is overheating, meaning for ex, u have a naturally 1.1ghz phone overclocked to 1.8ghz, that heat you're feeling is it screaming for it's life.
The heat on the one is just due to the fact it's aluminum, nothibg to panic about, I PROMISE YOU.
Why don't you get a case? Because you won't be able to feel it and well, as beautiful as it is, and as the case for all smartphones, drop it and it's gone.
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The One feels hotter because the aluminum body conducts heat much better than plastic does. This is a GOOD thing. It means the phone cools off much faster when things get hot.

The power button is awkward to push but nothing that make me thing of using some crappy iPhone or the S4
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Also any quad core phone will get hot

This is seriously the best phone on the market but yea I should have never left, I have unlimited data on my T-Mobile line but apple wouldnt let me use it the way I want so the iPhone had to go
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ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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always welcome u back to the ONE.. :good::good::good::good::good::good::good:

Now what was the lesson learned??? Lol welcome back.
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Oh yea so the gaming is pretty wack on ios if u have a 5 don't let the large library fool u, the majority of the games don't even fill the screen and havnt seen an update for years so that's a joke
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jachar said:
I was an iPhone user some time back, then I got my first Android the Nexus One... (also made by htc)
never going back to stupid iOS hehehe
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+1 Was in the very same boat..:fingers-crossed:

I think I'm the only one that likes the power button on the top of the phone. I think power buttons on the side of the phone just don't belong. Looks stupid to me. I'd rather re-adjust the phone in my hand to lock it then have it on the side.
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As above, "hello" threads or "Samsung sucks" threads aren't allowed. Closed

Not liking the new back on the 2nd gen N7 at all

Got my N7 from GameStop, everywhere else was sold out, I love it BUT.... The back of the device seems really slippy and isn't giving much grip, dunno if it's me but I prefer the back of the 1st gen, it kind of feels oily, anyone else finding this?

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Got my N7 from GameStop, everywhere else was sold out, I love it BUT.... The back of the device seems really slippy and isn't giving much grip, dunno if it's me but I prefer the back of the 1st gen, it kind of feels oily, anyone else finding this?
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I like it. Looks better than the OG to me. I guess it's not as grippy but I'm not bothered by it.

I like it, the rubber feel is nice and soft, feels durable to me
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I like it. Looks better than the OG to me. I guess it's not as grippy but I'm not bothered by it.
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oh yeah if defiantly looks better, just feels strange, soft yes, but the only way I can think of putting it is that it feels wax like, dunno, once I get a case it won't matter I suppose

Not an issue for me either. I like to hold this tablet in landscape mode and my thumb rests securely on top of the wider bezel. The remaining weight of the tablet rests on my four fingers below.

Its just thin and the rubber wraps around the edge. You're right though, it is slick. My damn wife almost dropped it. :heartattack:
Its good though. I'll probably grab a 7" sleeve from my sons Samsung tab 7" for traveling.
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angry english said:
Got my N7 from GameStop, everywhere else was sold out, I love it BUT.... The back of the device seems really slippy and isn't giving much grip, dunno if it's me but I prefer the back of the 1st gen, it kind of feels oily, anyone else finding this?
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I have the exact same complaint. My only complaint, too. So bummed about it.
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angry english said:
Got my N7 from GameStop, everywhere else was sold out, I love it BUT.... The back of the device seems really slippy and isn't giving much grip, dunno if it's me but I prefer the back of the 1st gen, it kind of feels oily, anyone else finding this?
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If I didn't have a 1st get Nexus 7, I would think the new back is just fine. But the original back is Perfect! Better grip, and feels like a British racing glove, looks good, doesn't show fingerprints. So I do wish the new one had the same texture! Also the buttons are smooth, not rubberized like the original, and don't extend out as far, so they are slightly harder to use.

I loved the dimpled back on the first gen N7, this one is ok.

Same here. There is this weird feeling on my fingertips after holding the thing. Much prefer the old dimpled back cover.
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Old Back Cover > New Back Cover

I'm happy you mentioned the buttons, because they are really starting to get on my tits also lol
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Old back<new back
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Get a life folks! Old back was cool. New back is different but cool also. I like the lightness of this new one. Go shoot a few hoops, hike a hundred miles, get some exercise . . . come back and the new Nexus 7 will be cool!

I think the new back is awesome

Wait....so because some of us don't like the back of a product we need get a life?.... Great logical thinking....
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angry english said:
Wait....so because some of us don't like the back of a product we need get a life?.... Great logical thinking....
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Yep, you got my message loud and clear!
http://youtu.be/uaFy0x_Uixo

Very informative.......... If you have nothing to say then don't bother involving yourself in the conversation, just to sit here and tell people to get a life really doesn't make you "cool" and neither does "shooting hoops".....
Move along
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I'm happy you mentioned the buttons, because they are really starting to get on my tits also lol
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It's like the old Detroit mentality - new model has to look different, even if it's not better. You gotta wonder who sat around and said "Yeah, this new plain back is better, these new smooth buttons work better"

So I have another nexus 7 fhd with a later manufacture date and the back is nowhere near as slippy as my release day one, how strange
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[Q] Potential buyer

As the title says im a potential buyer and i wanted to ask you guys what should i worry about ive read some stuff like overheating or yellow tint but what else should i know about this device because im in between the nexus 4, the xperia z which is said to have built quality issues and the note 2 with its sudden death issue, the prices arent much different with the nexus in my country at around 340euros and the other two a little bit more and the customer service is horrendous in y country so repairing it really difficult hence my hesitation, ive had the lumia 920 for a while know and prior to that the note 1 and havent had any issues with them.

If customer service in your country is horrible I would suggest the N4. So many people on here, G+ etc. know how to fix things.
It's really up to you though. With the N5 coming out soon you might want to hold off.

You should probably get the Nexus 4 so you can gets lots of updates and helps from forum members. But at the same time the Nexus 4 do not have the most durable design so I would buy a case for it unless you have some accident warranty.
*google gesture keyboard messing me up again
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Maustin96 said:
If customer service in your country is horrible I would suggest the N4. So many people on here, G+ etc. know how to fix things.
It's really up to you though. With the N5 coming out soon you might want to hold off.
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I cant really afford the n5 when it comes out, but the software issues are not really an issue for me but ive read about overheating and throttling and im not the most hardcore gamer but i like to play a little bit through the day and thats what worries me.

samkle said:
I cant really afford the n5 when it comes out, but the software issues are not really an issue for me but ive read about overheating and throttling and im not the most hardcore gamer but i like to play a little bit through the day and thats what worries me.
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Mine has never overheated and I've played some graphic heavy games in my time including Asphalt games and more recently FIFA 14. Yes it gets a little hot but so did my S2. That's pretty normal.
You shouldn't have a problem with anything like this to be honest.

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You'll probably feet the Nexus 4 so you can gets loss of updates and help from forum members here. But at the same time the Nexus 4 do not have the most durable design so I would buy a case for it unless you have some accident warranty.
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It's kind of slick and likes to slide down my table (well happened twice that it fell down). The table is waist-high and I was scared at first (worked even better then the alarm to wake me up )
But since I personally dislike these ugly cases I can tell you it's not that fragile. Fell down of that table twice and nothing happened. I was only worried because I've read everywhere that the glass likes to break but it never happened
You don't have to put it in monstrous cases that should protect it from an atomic explosion or something

The n4 with ringke fusion case. IMO.
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I undervolt and my phone rarely goes higher than 120°f. The n4 is solid imo, the only thing that seems to be giving me an issue is the power button which seems like it will need to be replaced at some point. No worries though, touch control helps a bunch! Tap to wake/slide to sleep....Best phone I've ever owned!
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Hi,
you can wait for a little while the N5 is rolling out you can check it .
also i heard and saw good reviews on the MotoX.
my advice is just wait a little more .

CurlyY said:
Hi,
you can wait for a little while the N5 is rolling out you can check it .
also i heard and saw good reviews on the MotoX.
my advice is just wait a little more .
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Maybe im going to do just that.

If you're on a budget then hands down Nexus 4! If you have endless cash flow and patience then wait for something else. I personally love the N4 and picked mine up from a guy off of craigslist for $200 (16GB version) in excellent condition.
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I also want to recommend xtreme guard screen protectors. You can get then for the back and front and are water based. (Don't worry, there's a video tutorial)
But also get a case as well.
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Maustin96 said:
I also want to recommend xtreme guard screen protectors. You can get then for the back and front and are water based. (Don't worry, there's a video tutorial)
But also get a case as well.
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i have them one my lumia 920 and didnt really like the rubbery feel to them, but on the other side they are dead easy to install

samkle said:
i have them one my lumia 920 and didnt really like the rubbery feel to them, but on the other side they are dead easy to install
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I only have one on the back because the front one tends to peel off really easily due to the curves on the edge of the screen.
By having it on the back it prevents the phone from slipping and sliding. Before I got them I took my N4 to the toilet with me without the xtreme guards and it slipped off the bit where the flusher is. With them on it just stays in place.
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3dupunk said:
I undervolt and my phone rarely goes higher than 120°f. The n4 is solid imo, the only thing that seems to be giving me an issue is the power button which seems like it will need to be replaced at some point. No worries though, touch control helps a bunch! Tap to wake/slide to sleep....Best phone I've ever owned!
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thats something that worries me, ive read alot about the power button not working and i hate such things in phone, is this an issue faced by alot of people or just something that happens occasionally because i had the original galaxy s and its power button felt really weird too and its been about 3 or more years and nothing has happened to it

samkle said:
thats something that worries me, ive read alot about the power button not working and i hate such things in phone, is this an issue faced by alot of people or just something that happens occasionally because i had the original galaxy s and its power button felt really weird too and its been about 3 or more years and nothing has happened to it
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if there is a problem you can think of someone here has solved it in one way or another. Its a solid phone the N4. Put a case on it to protect it, root it to customize the way you want., rock a customized kernel to keep it cool and have good battery life, there are ways to change the colors if you do not like and plus you will have the newest software always.... Oh yea and touch control lets you do a double tap to turn on device..
Nuff' said problem(s) solved :good: :laugh:

playya said:
if there is a problem you can think of someone here has solved it in one way or another. Its a solid phone the N4. Put a case on it to protect it, root it to customize the way you want., rock a customized kernel to keep it cool and have good battery life, there are ways to change the colors if you do not like and plus you will have the newest software always.... Oh yea and touch control lets you do a double tap to turn on device..
Nuff' said problem(s) solved :good: :laugh:
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ok....but it the power button problem very common?? i know i can find alternatives but its the problem itslef that bothers me

samkle said:
ok....but it the power button problem very common?? i know i can find alternatives but its the problem itslef that bothers me
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Yea its a problem across all phones if you love it soo much you keep turning it on... LOL man listen that is the least of your worries with xposed framework and the ability to use volume keys to wake device and sweep to wake and double tap to wake