...with their evo i mean. just seems a bit quiet round here lately. not alot of new roms or themes to try out either. im itching to try something new but im not sure what? lmao!
fixxxer2008 said:
...with their evo i mean. just seems a bit quiet round here lately. not alot of new roms or themes to try out either. im itching to try something new but im not sure what? lmao!
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you said the same thing about the hero too
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you said the same thing about the hero too
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i know it, about the time the development got quiet. i may have to start developing again for the evo.
nobody needs that drama again
CheesyNutz said:
nobody needs that drama again
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there was no drama, it was neb that had a bug up his ass. actually my roms were quit popular. but i dev for myself now, too much BS on here.
CheesyNutz said:
nobody needs that drama again
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+1 lmao.....
Papa Smurf151 said:
+1 lmao.....
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ive been a good boy since i got the evo!
fixxxer2008 said:
ive been a good boy since i got the evo!
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Haha let's keep it that way.
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Dude I been board with my evo since January lol, but sadly its the best phone out on sprint right now. There's nothing worthy of an upgrade yet.
phatmanxxl said:
Dude I been board with my evo since January lol, but sadly its the best phone out on sprint right now. There's nothing worthy of an upgrade yet.
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not bored with the evo, bored as far as roms & themeing.
Well once gingerbread and sense 2.0 are officially released for the evo, I'm sure well get another wave of development here. I agreeits slowed down some.
I would be content if I had a new app to play with. Show me something new people. Start naming apps for me..?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.
View my posts about on board development. You'll be busy for a while!
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jacoballen22 said:
I would be content if I had a new app to play with. Show me something new people. Start naming apps for me..?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.
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Angry birds
phatmanxxl said:
Well once gingerbread and sense 2.0 are officially released for the evo, I'm sure well get another wave of development here. I agreeits slowed down some.
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the evo is never going to see an official gingerbread release. the devs will have to port it.
Check out voice actions available in the market. 1 of my all time favorites
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the evo is never going to see an official gingerbread release. the devs will have to port it.
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Well just have to see, I've heard from multiple sources that it will, along with sense 2.0
jacoballen22 said:
I would be content if I had a new app to play with. Show me something new people. Start naming apps for me..?
Swyped from my sexy EVO.
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Try rocket bunnies its like the new angry birds but I like it better.
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Well just have to see, I've heard from multiple sources that it will, along with sense 2.0
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it won't, not with the new evo3d launching. that will probably have ginger on it from the get go. face it, the evo is almost a year old, i think major updates are done for it. as soon as they can get the ginger/sense 2.0 to work on the desire, then we will have a port for our evo's.
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Try rocket bunnies its like the new angry birds but I like it better.
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well this thread didn't go like i thought it would!
i meant id love to see new themes be ported or come out but honestly i just looked at the desire & nexus sections and it's pretty stale there too.
Related
I figured this deserved a thread.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/celebrating-android.html
http://developer.android.com/index.html
UPDATE: Cyanogenmod incoming. http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/8-android-phones-will-get-froyo-early-thanks-to-cyanogenmod/
Dang, beat me to it. I was just going to link the adroidcentral article. Today is a great day for android!
all right! Devs get on it... oh wait, I forgot. Dev get on it.
I wish I knew more about all of this. We have a fully working kernel source for our 2.1 ROMs. Does that mean that porting 2.2 will be a snap, or am I missing something here?
Darch seems to be on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6918210&postcount=1393
Darchstar said he would be able to get a working port for us by tomorrow xD I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
This is news to me: http://twitter.com/cyanogen/statuses/16869433998
Apparently Cyanogen himself is officially working on the HeroC? Is this new?
I just lost all respect for myself......
"froyo source dropped?" "AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!" *waves arms in the air then falls out of chair*
IRL.
FAIL.
I hope so. That would be great... Although we have great developers already here.
illogic6 said:
This is news to me: http://twitter.com/cyanogen/statuses/16869433998
Apparently Cyanogen himself is officially working on the HeroC? Is this new?
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See this & it's reply.
Since Darchstar has a HeroC vendor tree already setup, this is the reason.
Wow. So I guess we get an official Cyanogenmod ROM in the near future. That November Evo upgrade eligibility date is suddenly hurting much less.
i'm feeling the same way!
I could still care less about the Evo. It's WAY too big IMHO. Who wants a brick in their pocket, apparently quite a few due, but whatever :-/
This definitely will make the wait for my next phone much easier. Now just need to decide which one I want next.
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stillryan said:
This definitely will make the wait for my next phone much easier. Now just need to decide which one I want next.
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I'm pretty sure Sprint has to pay Verizon X amount for all the roaming.
http://twitter.com/gbhil/status/16872052684
How sad that we don't see Gbhil around these parts any more.
Kcarpenter said:
How sad that we don't see Gbhil around these parts any more.
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Yeah.....
tenchars
This is probably a stupid question but will it be sense UI? Cause I hope so
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cp0020 said:
This is probably a stupid question but will it be sense UI? Cause I hope so
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Uhh... no. Google does not make sense.
HeroMeng said:
Uhh... no. Google does not make sense.
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and thank god for that!
Samsung already has us waiting forever so they might as well skip froyo
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been running Honeycomb for weeks now...
Its T-Mobile not samsung anymore that's taking forever
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No. No you may not.
demo23019 said:
Its T-Mobile not samsung anymore that's taking forever
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Really!?
So it's t mobile, verizon, sprint AND att, but not samsung? Ok, yeah that makes sense.
Why is it taking all these lazy slow "devs" so long... 4 other phones have gingerbread ports.... I guess they are too busy asking for donations
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been running Honeycomb for weeks now...
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samsung has changed their plan.
We're gonna get WP7 instead of Android in the next FW update.
grennis said:
Why is it taking all these lazy slow "devs" so long... 4 other phones have gingerbread ports.... I guess they are too busy asking for donations
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Oh shut up. Our developers here are no different than other devices in regards to donations. It is more difficult to port ROMs to Galaxy S phones then most other devices.
grennis said:
Why is it taking all these lazy slow "devs" so long... 4 other phones have gingerbread ports.... I guess they are too busy asking for donations
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You're certainly welcome to show these "slow devs" how it's done. C'mon what are you waiting for? What? Can't do better? Didn't think so.
lucky for us, the Nexus S is close close to our SGS that it will help alot with porting. I caught someone's twitter last night that had Gingerbread running on their Vibrant.
If you can't do this stuff yourself, you have no right making the statement that the people that are doing it are slow. If you could do it, you wouldn't be here bashing the ones that can.
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lucky for us, the Nexus S is close close to our SGS that it will help alot with porting. I caught someone's twitter last night that had Gingerbread running on their Vibrant.
If you can't do this stuff yourself, you have no right making the statement that the people that are doing it are slow. If you could do it, you wouldn't be here bashing the ones that can.
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Who had gingerbread running on their vibrant? Would love to get more details about that.
lexluthor said:
Really!?
So it's t mobile, verizon, sprint AND att, but not samsung? Ok, yeah that makes sense.
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No, see, it makes perfect sense because see t mobile, verizon, sprint, AND att don't like having upgrades before one another, so now they are teaming up and releasing the upgrades at the same exact time.
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Who had gingerbread running on their vibrant? Would love to get more details about that.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Eugene had 2.3 running on his Vibrant. It's a bit early for me so I'm not entirely sure I'm remembering correctly, but you can check his twitter to be sure.
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Generic112 said:
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Eugene had 2.3 running on his Vibrant. It's a bit early for me so I'm not entirely sure I'm remembering correctly, but you can check his twitter to be sure.
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bingo.. please don't bug him about it, that guy gives us everything when he can, have patience grasshopper
http://twitpic.com/3ev136
lexluthor said:
Really!?
So it's t mobile, verizon, sprint AND att, but not samsung? Ok, yeah that makes sense.
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like i said tmobile not samsung
makes allot of sense
guess ill blame samsung because i never officially got ji6 update that was released over a month ago
So eugene installed nero 2? cool
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So eugene installed nero 2? cool
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lol i keep thanking people for no reason but yea this is cool if its real which its from Eugene so im sure its legit
and not nero 2
grennis said:
Why is it taking all these lazy slow "devs" so long... 4 other phones have gingerbread ports.... I guess they are too busy asking for donations
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They are working for free in their spare time. They owe you nothing.
No phone has a fully function version of Gingerbread. It will be a while before you can use it for everyday use.
And finally, GTFO.
Obi_Kwiet said:
They are working for free in their spare time. They owe you nothing.
No phone has a fully function version of Gingerbread. It will be a while before you can use it for everyday use.
And finally, GTFO.
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And to the person you quoted, they aren't even ports. They are base ROMs made from the SDK. They have no Kernel source for drivers to work either.
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bingo.. please don't bug him about it, that guy gives us everything when he can, have patience grasshopper
http://twitpic.com/3ev136
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I love him so much. No homo lol
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whwn is gingerbread going to be available for my hero!? i cant wait!
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2.3 GB is already being worked on its not fully 100% for the heroc but its in the works. There is no timeframe from the devs as all of them have lives and do this on the side so there is no expected time dude. The 2.3 source was released not long ago just be patient and check the development section sometimes.
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Ohhh boy another 119 tard
dirkyd3rk said:
2.3 is already being worked on its not fully 100% but its in the works. There is no timeframe from the devs as all of them have lives and do this on the side so there is no expected time dude. The 2.3 source was released not long ago just be patient and check the development section sometimes.
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Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
In ten minutes.
As soon as you reboot your phone... didn't you get the update from HTC/Sprint?
Bump
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Don't bump for tards
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Bump
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Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
halrulez said:
Don't bump for tards
Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
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I don't even know what bump means I just said it cause I saw another person say it lol
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I don't even know what bump means I just said it cause I saw another person say it lol
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Bahaha, bump for that comment.
bump for tards.
umm... No life, much..
halrulez said:
Ohhh boy another 119 tard
Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
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This an android 2.3 os alpha version because it seem fast, but alot of feature of native android apps or function doesnt work yet or isnt in this rom yet.
Is an early test developer rom, should be able on beta by late January and full stable by feb. Pure assumption so far coming from me on timetable of this development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864403
bhupinder408 said:
whwn is gingerbread going to be available for my hero!? i cant wait!
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halrulez said:
Ohhh boy another 119 tard
Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
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I just realized what you meant when I saw the last couple posts. Bump for me being tard-y on the pick up.
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amehdi43 said:
feb? feb!!! wow!!! u have got to be kidding me... this is BS!
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If you can't wait you could always cook it yourself
I had Gingerbread on my Hero a couple weeks ago...oh wait, you all are talking the ROM, not the cookies my son and wife made. Bump for my stupidity and misunderstanding.
I said assumption u people need to pay attention stop bullying, especially toward me.
Im guessing it depend on the developers and people that helps them out as well.
amehdi43 said:
feb? feb!!! wow!!! u have got to be kidding me... this is BS!
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Im talking about stable and every day 2.3 os roms with it natural features working camera,usb tethering,camcorder,wifi,bluetooth file sharing,bluetooth audio,gps and other android feature outthere too. Not the alpha version that out now.
ranger61878 said:
I had Gingerbread on my Hero a couple weeks ago...oh wait, you all are talking the ROM, not the cookies my son and wife made. Bump for my stupidity and misunderstanding.
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Well said it better to be patient and have a full function room then rushed.
And hacker society make better roms then htc themselves sometimes with add on.
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If you can't wait you could always cook it yourself
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Well said it better to be patient and have a full function room then rushed.
And hacker society make better roms then htc themselves sometimes with add on.
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You of all people need to be bullied
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feb? feb!!! wow!!! u have got to be kidding me... this is BS!
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People like you are the reason why I want aosp to release the ROM to the IRC peeps only
Entitled much?
There is a port that has been put alot of time into and needs the handy work of some talented devs that can get this going and finished in the right direction. The Droid X port. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134997 )
Camera is literally a second away from getting to work and other then that that WiFi is the only thing not working to my knowledge. me and a bunch of other members have been trying to keep the thread alive and checking in everyday to see how the progress was and at first it wasn't doing anything and no one was even bothering cause of it being motoblur and doubted it could ever work/
But then team Xron came in and literally brought this port from nothing to pretty damn usable. They fixed the screen tearing, the hw acceleration and the sound. All that is working right now and only thing that needs a touch up from a dev is the Wifi. Fix that and this can be one badass mother effin Port. Can't wait for this to get finished up and everyone can enjoy it because its really that good.
All i know is that Chubbz is still working on it but Swamp Goblin has given up and thinks this is as far as the rom will go, but i don't believe that. no pun intended but he got the evo 3d now and is off to bigger and better things lol
So im asking if anyone out their, dont even have to be a Myn or Virus but someone that can put some little more progress in this and it will be finished and ready to boot up for everyone to enjoy.
Thanks for hearing me out and hopefully word gets out to the right ears and they would want to lend a hand. i know it can be done.
May the force be with you all
Quick question.....I'm a long time Android user and rooter and I remember back ineligible the G1 and MyTouch 3G days there was a motoblur port and pretty much everything was running including cams and wifi.....do you think you guys can look into those roms and see what those devs did to get it working?? I mean it may be worth a shot......
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Quick question.....I'm a long time Android user and rooter and I remember back ineligible the G1 and MyTouch 3G days there was a motoblur port and pretty much everything was running including cams and wifi.....do you think you guys can look into those roms and see what those devs did to get it working?? I mean it may be worth a shot......
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for sure i will look into it, whatever it takes to get the rom back in business.
Do you remember the names of the ports or even links would be nice.
Joey_UFC said:
for sure i will look into it, whatever it takes to get the rom back in business.
Do you remember the names of the ports or even links would be nice.
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Ill do a little research and post in a sec.....
Is this port further along than the WP7 port?
didn't even know there was a WP7 port, never seen it in the 4g development forum. so i would have to say yes.
Like i said, all this needs is a cam fix and wifi and its ready to go
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Is this port further along than the WP7 port?
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Light years ahead of the WP7 port....not bashing either I would love to see wp7 work out on the Evo especially since its going to be retired from sprints lineup soon.....but of course porting an android rom with a skin on top of it to a device already running android is easier than porting a whole different OS.....
The wp7 is vaporware its like the webos port....light years away LOL. You'd probably see an iOS port before wp7. I still have my evo id love to check out this droid x port.
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Hey you switched to the 3d so your a trader. you may not enjoy the sexiness of the Droid port.
You are not welcome in this DOJO!
Joey_UFC said:
Hey you switched to the 3d so your a trader. you may not enjoy the sexiness of the Droid port.
You are not welcome in this DOJO!
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LOL :rolls eyes: you need one man....for reasons i wont say...ill keep it pg haha. Let's just say i made a few 3D clips you'd be proud of meeee Hahaha
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LOL :rolls eyes: you need one man....for reasons i wont say...ill keep it pg haha. Let's just say i made a few 3D clips you'd be proud of meeee Hahaha
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lol your the second person that told me that.
and now excuse me while i go download the official Synergy release, or maybe even the CM7 release which i have and you don't
COME BACK PAUL! COME BACK!
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lol your the second person that told me that.
and now excuse me while i go download the official Synergy release, or maybe even the CM7 release which i have and you don't
COME BACK PAUL! COME BACK!
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LOL mi nombre es dirk....you asshat. I'm running synergy right now aka legit sense 3.0 take that.
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oh yeah lmao
dirkyd3rk said:
LOL mi nombre es dirk....you asshat. I'm running synergy right now aka legit sense 3.0 take that.
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Lmao......
+1
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oh yeah lmao
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Cmon dude sell your EVO bro, come to the darkside, there's ways. I know 3 people personally that called to have their upgrade reset then traded in evo to target for 150 and paid 50 bucks for 3D. If they did it in my city I would have gone that route. 50 bucks only! I love my og EVO too much to get rid of her though...
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Cmon dude sell your EVO bro, come to the darkside, there's ways. I know 3 people personally that called to have their upgrade reset then traded in evo to target for 150 and paid 50 bucks for 3D. If they did it in my city I would have gone that route. 50 bucks only! I love my og EVO too much to get rid of her though...
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i will never waste money on the 3d. if i got it for free i would still sell it.
im waiting for the photon or the galaxy s II
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Lmao......
+1
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Yes but mine was free
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i will never waste money on the 3d. if i got it for free i would still sell it.
im waiting for the photon or the galaxy s II
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I will mail a box of white dog **** to your doorstep if you get a photon...my upgrade is in September this year. If sgs2 is better than evo, which I doubt, then ill get that and sell my 3D.
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I will mail a box of white dog **** to your doorstep if you get a photon...my upgrade is in September this year. If sgs2 is better than evo, which I doubt, then ill get that and sell my 3D.
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i like the photon. i really do enjoy motoblur port we have now. but i would want the galaxy s2 more then the photon.
i don't care if the phone is a downgrade, i just need a change of pace in phone. no more evo but i would want to keep android
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i like the photon. i really do enjoy motoblur port we have now. but i would want the galaxy s2 more then the photon.
i don't care if the phone is a downgrade, i just need a change of pace in phone. no more evo but i would want to keep android
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Word. I think ill still mail you that box anyways, pm your address LOL.
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Just gotta say, miss my hero peeps. You guys are the best. Too many chiefs n not enuff patient Indians in the 3d forums. Ok, ( wanna-be chiefs). But I digress, just stopped in to say hi.... Let's keep in touch. Heroc peeps check in here!
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What up moto? Checking in
sent from the third dimension
Thanks man good to see at least I got one friend. LOL literally...
Starting to think nobody likes me...
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yeah there are a lot of really cool people over there in 3d land.. it will be fun once we have root and can actually be productive.. its mostly just squabbles and peeing contests..
dont worry about the friends.. just get a couple good ones on here and no worries.. i only have a few on here..
motoelliot said:
Starting to think nobody likes me...
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Couldn't have said it better myself
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kyouko said:
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Lol...Awww man..ur one of the original HERO crew..and one of the most helpful
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it will be fun once we have root and can actually be productive..
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Wait, it hasn't been rooted yet?
Nope. .
us hero fokes are more refined
My Hero sure is 3d to me. I hope you all go blind. <3
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The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
Lol...Awww man..ur one of the original HERO crew..and one of the most helpful
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The guy likes hunting, fishing, and motorcycles he's great in my book
and hell yeah, those were the days. we knew so little back then and everything was exciting. plus we had fixxxer to keep us entertained xD
Teamwin FTW, they found an exploit on 3vo, aaaaaaahhhhh.
BANG! from my shooter...
il Duce said:
Teamwin FTW, they found an exploit on 3vo, aaaaaaahhhhh.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You get that info from an reliable source, duce ? looking forward to 47 new threads about it today in the 3vo forums.
nandroids are for
sissies
Yes, one of the team win devs tweeted it.
BANG! from my shooter...
il Duce said:
Teamwin FTW, they found an exploit on 3vo, aaaaaaahhhhh.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You get that info from an reliable source, duce ? looking forward to 47 new threads about it today in the 3vo forums.
nandroids are for
sissies
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Yes, one of the team win devs tweeted it.
BANG! from my shooter...
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its amazing.. i dont know what i will do once i have root again..
Its been real, Hero Crew! ROOT obtained within the last 15 minutes. Method being developed as I type.
il Duce said:
Yes, one of the team win devs tweeted it.
BANG! from my shooter...
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Cool. That means by the time I get one, there will be a pant load of roms available. (and the 3vo will be considered outdated....)
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Very good news I wake up too tonight!!!....Now I'm just hoping this exploit works on the OG Evo too, because my wife's took a dump today and I'm sure the refurb she's getting will have the GB update pre-installed. Hope this lets me kill 2 birds with one stone.
Can't wait till s-off. Shouldn't be long now. Nice to get rid of some bloat tho.
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but hero is so slow, and ..ughh the small screen,