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Finally i have my atrix! My mini review

Ok, here are my first impressions so far. Android is mostly unknown in Venezuela so i don't have any prior experience to relate to, but i do have an ipod touch 4g to compare with the OS and such.
-The phone refused to do anything without a sim card, either valid or invalid. As soon as i inserted my invalid sim card, i could do the blur wizard on WiFi and continue.
-Screen is rather nice, it's not AMOLED, but since i haven't owned any AMOLED devices (ipod is lcd) i don't feel it sucks in comparison. Some text is a little blurry, colors not that rich, but i like it.
-Phone seems speedy. Flash on a webpage indeed worked and didn't seem laggy. Except pinch to zoom way sucks, it's isn't fluid anywhere, iOS definitely wins here.
-Camera is better than i expected, since i expected purple pics. Seems ok. Shot 720p video, 20 seconds is 30 MB, huge!
-Alarms won't work with the phone off. This sucks, i don't want to leave the phone on when sleeping (want to save the battery, i don't want any type of data sync). I know i can put it on airplane mode, but it sucks. Every phone i have owned for 15 years has been able to wake itself on. Also, no auto on or auto off like my blackberry does. I know that there are apps for auto off (tasker?), but still this sucks.
-LED is tiny, doesn't do much by its own, needs external apps
-Blur isn't that bad, maybe because i haven't added any account to it. I installed facebook and twitter separately from the market, and am using the gmail app.
-Just enabled usb debugging, installed moto drivers, i see it under adb, time to root! Already purchased unlock code, will wait for it. Update: rooted with aroot, works fine so far.
-I want to make the display turn off at 30 seconds and the device to only lock after 5 minutes. While i have seen an option "security timer", i put it at 5 minutes but after 30 seconds i still needed to draw the finger horizontally to unlock it. Maybe i am not understanding this properly

please let us know when you unlock your phone to tell us if your wifi is working or not.
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
and where did you get your unlock from " when you do "

Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)

xdaLurker said:
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!

squarejp said:
The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
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actually its, nexus S users have been having same problem and VOODOO was released and now they have a program that adjust the colors based on your desire.
now they dont have pink gray in low brightness or yellowish white screen " those are the issues they used to have "
so all you need is to wait to get this rooted. and by the look of it, we are not very far from it according to the recent development in the last couple of days.

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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
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thats encouraging. good to hear that someone got his atrix wifi to work after the unlock. been alot of bad wifis recently

if my wifi stops working after unlocking i will flash the sbf that has been leaked. some users are saying this fixes their problems.
A couple of questions:
Can you configure the time that the display turns off independently of the time that the device locks? I want to turn off the display after 30 seconds, but only want the device to lock after 5 minutes. I have seen an app to disable locking , but not exactly what i want.
My only workaround for the alarm issue is to go on airplane mode and kill all apps before going to sleep. That way i can leave the phone on and the alarm works, but i would have to open again gmail and twitter manually each morning. I have seen a paid app that lets you configure certain tasks (tasker) but wanted to know if there is an alternative.

What's the point if upgrading to 2.34 right now?

I am a serial ROM junkie BUT I am still in the sidelines on this one. Having read through most of the posts I still can't see what going to the beta Gingerbread achieves. Does it do anything better than the stock 2.2 which is so stable?
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I feel the same way. My atrix is my only phone so I will just watch here with interest but wait for Motorola to do it's thing....I hope.

Of course it is fun to play with, but I have gone back to 1.83. It is my only phone and the rom made for Hong Kong phones is just to buggy for every day use IMHO. They have made great progress in removing a lot of the bugs, but it is just not ready for prime time yet. If I had a backup phone I would be all over it, but as it will be coming soon I believe. I can wait.

It's been my daily driver since day one and no real complaints especially with navalynt's fixes and eye candies rolled into a flashable zip. There's a few things it does that I like. Music beta, portrait to landscape animation, crt animation when locking, etc. Fingerprint scanner is all I'm lacking and I know its just a matter of time. Don't blame ya for holding off, but as a fellow junkie I am a bit surprised =D
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Are there ANY benefits to the beta? Can someone list what they are? Speed? Camera? Battery? Software (and which apps)?
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I've been using 2.3.4 since it was released here with tutorials on how to install. I used _unknown's method. I have seen no real benefits, other than having an unlocked bootloader and a recovery I can boot into anytime I want. However IMO it is stable enough to use daily... battery life is about the same, and my phones been on with no restarts for a little over 48 hrs. The only way to appreciate all the work these devs have been doing is to try it out yourself
And I would like to thank xda for hosting a forum with an endless amount of useful knowledge for all the smart phones I've had in the last 2-3 years.
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I use it just to educate myself on the new fastboot stuff and try things out, get familiar with new layouts, etc. Education, experimentation. Seems like the wrong place to hang out if you're not into those things.

I agree with what both of you said. I love this forum and I do tinker with my device.
Just want to know, is any of the software improved / faster or better?

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Are there ANY benefits to the beta? Can someone list what they are? Speed? Camera? Battery? Software (and which apps)?
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Speed test wise is a bit better but this thing is such a beast its hard to see it. Camera app had a real overhaul and I love it! Battery, like above poster , seems the same. Software being gingerbread is more about cosmetics and I'm very happy in that regard ... it's pretty sexy I'm back to using launcher pro + for now but the moto-blur UI looks great. So good in fact I just started using LP+ recently. That's a big statement being as I slapped gingerblur P-ROM on the day I purchased the ATRIX!
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dubyajaysmith said:
It's been my daily driver since day one and no real complaints especially with navalynt's fixes and eye candies rolled into a flashable zip. There's a few things it does that I like. Music beta, portrait to landscape animation, crt animation when locking, etc. Fingerprint scanner is all I'm lacking and I know its just a matter of time. Don't blame ya for holding off, but as a fellow junkie I am a bit surprised =D
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Pretty much this for me, if they get the fingerprint scanner working I'll be a happy camper

the only bug i have noticied with the phone is that the FP scanner doesn't work, and the FFC appears sideways (but is normal when videochatting to the person on the other end).
the build is noticeably faster and smoother for me for animations, especially the 3d-cube and cylindrical app transitions on Go Launcher EX. the screen transitions for open-close and vertical-horizontal are pretty nice too since froyo lacks them. once i installed all the 'fixes' that devs have come up with, i see no reason to go back to Froyo, as I can live without the FP scanner for now, and videochatting with the FFC is fine. oh yeah, and i freakin LOVE the CRT shutoff animation.
oh yeah, and the new battery use meter system is pretty freakin' cool.

I moved back to 2.2.1 from 2.3.4 since I had horrible battery life on the HKTW 2.3.4 beta build! Other than that, I have to say it is way faster and smoother than 2.2.1!

speed, battery life, those were arbitrarily the same for me..
two of my fav noticeable improvements are:
1.) ability to clear notifications from your bar one by one instead of having to clear them all.
2.) being able to boot straight into CWM w/o a charger
3.) finally fixed the slow market download speeds!!!

2.3.4 is insanely fast compared to stock. Once you take the tome to fix the small bugs it's a really good everyday rom.
On 2.3.4 I get almost the same battery life with push email and no battery conservation as I did in 2.2.2 with everything turned off. There is no wakeup lag or random pauses like before. At first it seemed like it drained battery but After a couple days when my battery had calibrated itself this were normal.
So far the only bugs I have are the funky front facing camera and I can't sync my exchange account.nmy phone no longer heats up as much as before.
I am running launcher pro and havent disable blur yet and it's super fast. For comparison 2.2.2 with launcher pro and no blur was still slow.
It's completely changed my views of the Atrix, except for the screen.

joeryu said:
speed, battery life, those were arbitrarily the same for me..
two of my fav noticeable improvements are:
1.) ability to clear notifications from your bar one by one instead of having to clear them all.
2.) being able to boot straight into CWM w/o a charger
3.) finally fixed the slow market download speeds!!!
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3.) Did they, seriously?! Side by side on the same game download & on the same router, my (beloved) N1 used to download at least 3X faster.. Now, that's an improvement if they fixed it!
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Vangelis13 said:
3.) Did they, seriously?! Side by side on the same game download & on the same router, my (beloved) N1 used to download at least 3X faster.. Now, that's an improvement if they fixed it!
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They did indeed. When I'm on wifi now at home I get full 1.5 MB a second market download speeds where as before I swore it never went above 250-300 kb / sec. Even on 3g the market finally takes advantage of the full bandwidth. I had to test downloading big game apks as regular apps kept finishing before I can even check the speeds

joeryu said:
They did indeed. When I'm on wifi now at home I get full 1.5 MB a second market download speeds where as before I swore it never went above 250-300 kb / sec. Even on 3g the market finally takes advantage of the full bandwidth. I had to test downloading big game apks as regular apps kept finishing before I can even check the speeds
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Brilliant!
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On 2.3.4 I get almost the same battery life with push email and no battery conservation as I did in 2.2.2 with everything turned off.
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So far the only bugs I have are the funky front facing camera and I can't sync my exchange account.nmy phone no longer heats up as much as before...
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No Exchange syncing = one less push email account. That's probably why battery life seems the same for you. Mine is noticeably worse.
Unless you didn't use Exchange push in 2.2.2, in which case forget this post.

stewartsoda said:
No Exchange syncing = one less push email account. That's probably why battery life seems the same for you. Mine is noticeably worse.
Unless you didn't use Exchange push in 2.2.2, in which case forget this post.
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I didn't use exchange or gmail push, or even fetch in 2.2
Right now my battery is 10% lower at the end of my work night following my same usage habits. 2.3.4 seems to be much more efficient with memory management as well.

I can do without fingerprint scanner and the front facing camera, this ROM is definitely better than 2.2 froyo. Now I feel like I own a dual core phone.I am unlocked and can't wait to flash an American optimized ROM!
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[Vote] JB update? Worth it?

A straightforward topic
Vote Yes if you think the JB update for razr i is worth updating to and No if it isn't and you want to downgrade back to ICS

Was going to ask exactly the same question....
Was going to ask exactly the same question, as the update prompt just showed up on mine 2 hours ago...
At the moment I am holding... and not updating... don't really see any advantage in jelly bean... i wouldn't be using google now anyway...
... and I don't wanna loose "fm radio" and "sleep mode"

Same here, I actually think it might be better staying on ICS but let's see what the JB persons have to say
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I personally don't think it is worth it -- however I did update to look for differences in battery life.
I see the cpu governor chosen by motorola to be laggier on some tasks. But the UI seems more fluid because of project butter. And I do not use google now because of the massive battery consumption.
The best feature which I do look is the improved keyboard and a better voice to text recognition, it is almost real-time. That is enough for my personal use of the device.
But if your usage requires more the following functions that you would loose such as FM radio and sleep mode as mentioned above then I would hold the upgrade until we start seeing other ROMs.

Thats great but you didn't mention if overall the battery life is a lot better or worse in JB?
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My RAZR i is so much more buttery smooth, and Google Now is worth it by itself. I installed the 4.2 launcher from the Nexus 4 image and its a great match with 4.1.2
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you should put a poll on this thread

Anyone's speed dial not working since JB update? (Orange GB)

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Anyone's speed dial not working since JB update? (Orange GB)
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Mine. I think it was deactivated...

I like the Jelly Bean Update. First i was very happy about Google Now but in all honesty, disable it, burn it, kill it with everything you have.
My logs:
ICS, Display on 4hrs, Battery 20%
ICS, Display on 3hrs, Battery 50%
ICS, Display on 5hrs, Battery 29% (best by far)
So it varied a bit, although battery life improved in the last month somehow. Don't know, i switched some apps and deleted some .. A common value was that i had around 50% battery after ~2,5hrs.
Google Now:
JB, GN on, Display on 3,5hrs, Battery 12%
.. whatever, i didn't make that much screenshots of it. Let's just say that with 2hrs display on time i had about 35-40% battery.
I disabled Google Now yesterday and almost instantly i saw the graph flat out. At the moment i have 57% battery left with 2hrs 20mins display on time which could be a small improvement over ICS.
What i like about the update:
- Softkey bar is now transparent with LWP and even in other launchers, makes screen finally appear in it's real size and not cut-off
--> i could finally switch to Nova without any drawbacks, stock launcher froze widgets in ICS and scrolling to the right only was annoying
- Performs much better on homescreens
- stock JB softkeys look much better, stock animations in it.. yeah, i love it
- disable the stupid shutter sound (try to make a photo of the blackboard in an university.. twice i forgot to cover the speaker, it's the look of shame for a stupid phone you have on your face after taking it)
- Finally my Widgetsoid quicksettings bar stays where it's by standard in every other phone
Some more i already forgot
What i dislike:
Once google now is deactivated, nothing
somehow Poweramp kills its database every time and stops playing songs after 2-3mins .. This was the app i paid most for until now
It was overall more an update that made the phone work more the way it should. At least i have the expression, i think not everyone profits from the quicksettings and Nova launcher. Don't expect that your phone behaves completely different, you'll be disappointed by the more or less minor changes.

Well i really prefer Jb a lot!
Its so fast!! And i like the ui!
More than Ics,
On Jb theres is not lag anymore!
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funny how before jb was released people would be desperate to install it and now that it has been released, people are deciding not to install it.
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funny how before jb was released people would be desperate to install it and now that it has been released, people are deciding not to install it.
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Lol well its only because of the lack of features that JB has on Razr I and I didnt know what the features were before.. so i was excited but, not so much now..
i really want apps2sd that is initially why i was excited too..
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CentaXx said:
I like the Jelly Bean Update. First i was very happy about Google Now but in all honesty, disable it, burn it, kill it with everything you have.
My logs:
ICS, Display on 4hrs, Battery 20%
ICS, Display on 3hrs, Battery 50%
ICS, Display on 5hrs, Battery 29% (best by far)
So it varied a bit, although battery life improved in the last month somehow. Don't know, i switched some apps and deleted some .. A common value was that i had around 50% battery after ~2,5hrs.
Google Now:
JB, GN on, Display on 3,5hrs, Battery 12%
.. whatever, i didn't make that much screenshots of it. Let's just say that with 2hrs display on time i had about 35-40% battery.
I disabled Google Now yesterday and almost instantly i saw the graph flat out. At the moment i have 57% battery left with 2hrs 20mins display on time which could be a small improvement over ICS.
What i like about the update:
- Softkey bar is now transparent with LWP and even in other launchers, makes screen finally appear in it's real size and not cut-off
--> i could finally switch to Nova without any drawbacks, stock launcher froze widgets in ICS and scrolling to the right only was annoying
- Performs much better on homescreens
- stock JB softkeys look much better, stock animations in it.. yeah, i love it
- disable the stupid shutter sound (try to make a photo of the blackboard in an university.. twice i forgot to cover the speaker, it's the look of shame for a stupid phone you have on your face after taking it)
- Finally my Widgetsoid quicksettings bar stays where it's by standard in every other phone
Some more i already forgot
What i dislike:
Once google now is deactivated, nothing
somehow Poweramp kills its database every time and stops playing songs after 2-3mins .. This was the app i paid most for until now
It was overall more an update that made the phone work more the way it should. At least i have the expression, i think not everyone profits from the quicksettings and Nova launcher. Don't expect that your phone behaves completely different, you'll be disappointed by the more or less minor changes.
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Updated yesterday
YES
Not bothered about the lack of FM, never use it. I did use sleep mode a lot, buit I'll messa round with Smart Actions and get something good enough.
It's a lot smoother. When I first logged on here someone pointed out the stuttering in animation when zooming out of the home screen, which once noticed is impossible to ignore! That's gone and animations and transitions are a lot smoother.
Icons look tighter which is nice, although the digital clock is now a little squatter (not the widget, the lock screen).
Haven't used Google Now really, looking at how it can kill battery I doubt I will.
Dictionary and typing looks better. It doesn't automatically add a space after a word now until you start the next word, which although a little thing helps those of us who punctuate correctly; before hand I'd be having to delete the space to insert a comma or whatever. Takes some getting used to but a lot better.
But best of all the word 'Messages' now apopears complete and not cut off when displayed beneath the icon!! :laugh:
Early days, only updated last night, but first impressions are it tweaks the little annoyances out of the phone, so gets my vote :good:

Faster home screens and no lag? Yeah right. In my case swiping home screens lags substantially more after the JB update, not to mention even worse lags on waking up. Looks to me like the new CPU governor is responsible, will have to root and modify settings to return the performance back.

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Faster home screens and no lag? Yeah right. In my case swiping home screens lags substantially more after the JB update, not to mention even worse lags on waking up. Looks to me like the new CPU governor is responsible, will have to root and modify settings to return the performance back.
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In my case it's really fluent, perhaps the best android update that I have seen so far (and I had a G1 with the very first built of android) this OS feels really mature now.

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In my case it's really fluent, perhaps the best android update that I have seen so far (and I had a G1 with the very first built of android) this OS feels really mature now.
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No doubt it's fluid comparing to G1 But in my personal experience with Razr i, the fastest firmware was the one I bought the phone with. Two consecutive updates consecutively degraded the performance.

KitKat is awful

Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Care to share what monumental changes you were expecting? I see a lot of people disappointed by the update, but they don't voice what their expectations were.
You might do well to read the change log: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html. Obviously things like default SMS and translucent nav and status bars won't make it to the Nexus 7, but those weren't really big deal changes anyway. Bigger, useful changes happened under the hood. Lower system requirements and memory management improvements means 4.4 is lighter and leaner. Host Card Emulation means that things like Google Wallet are no longer reliant on a "secure element" in the device. The printing framework means any app can print any type of content using cloud printing, like Google Cloud Print. Immersive mode means nice changes for full screen apps.
Etc., etc. Just go take a look at that change log and come back and say that, "Absolutely nothing changed."

All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.
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Uh. What? They dropped support for the Galaxy Nexus, which is only 2 years old at this point. Technically they would have supported it still if TI had updated their chipset drivers, but it is still hardly a 5 year old device. They only officially support the Nexus 4 (1 year old) and the Nexus 7 2012 (1 year and a bit old). If manufacturers like Samsung or HTC choose to support legacy devices, that's their thing, not Google. Google provides the source. Samsung, HTC, and Moto are only supporting their more recent lineups too.
Maybe do some research before you start spouting off on the Internet.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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My favorite part of this update is the Immersion mode for Reading Ebooks & the new 4.4 default Email App.

I think kitkat is one of the most exciting releases since ice cream sandwich but most changes are indeed under the hood and not officially ready yet, like ART but kitkat is an awesome start for a new future for Android.

oldblue910 said:
Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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Nova launcher and action launcher beta have translucent ness... If you're looking for some see through goodness
Or side load GEL. It's what I'm running on my nexus 7...

lucaurso said:
I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.
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I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.

laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)

oldblue910 said:
Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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I agree, people complain way to freaking much! First world problems here. I love the update...I've been able to EASILY get every new feature from nexus 5 kit-kat on my new nexus 7 as well. Made the nexus 7 2ndgen that much faster

lucaurso said:
we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)
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Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?

Yup this update sucks.
- It's faster
- More battery life
- Less services running in the background
Yup horrible on this end.
As for SMS, isn't that integrated into hangouts now? Can tell as just got iPhone for work ?
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The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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wtf are you taling abbout?
wallpappers?
i dont want wallpappers
i want a fast system, stable system and everthing
with 4.4 hv more battery life, using art the system is mutch faster

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I don't know about worst, but I wish I hadn't updated. Battery is not a big issue with me as I mainly use it at home where I can keep it charged. The printing option is nice but not something that I can't live without. I haven't noticed any increased speed. I am stock so my issues apply to non power users who just want a first rate tablet without having to mod it, which it was before the update:
1. Browsers doesn't automatically fit text to screen like 4.3 did. I now have to double tap.
2. There is a slight stick/lag in browser when scrolling. Before it was smooth as butter.
3. To prevent major lag/freeze, I've had to cut off location services.
4. Touchscreen is sometimes non responsive, particularly the app drawer button. I use Apex (to hide non used apps) but it doesn't seem to be Apex as it also happens with the stock launcher. The only way to get it working again is by clearing default.
5. Not major but I liked the blue status bar icons in 4.3 better than the white.
6. I liked the 4.3 email app better.
7. Loss of flash. I know flash is obsolete, but there are still many websites that still use it and I liked the option of using my preferred video player as opposed to being forced to HTML5.

laur3n.newm4n said:
Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?
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I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...

Matrix_19 said:
Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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I had the opposite effect, sitting "idle" for 4 hours the battery is drained down to %20, google services was @ 74%, re-booting didn't solve it. Sitting idle with 4.3 it last 5 full days; lastly I really, really liked the way the Staus icon would be blue for secured network, and white for unsecured network, showed up/down too and would turn grayish when your connected but not repsonding....and the blue stood out just enough to catch your eye so that you could tell at a glance what is going on. I dumped KitCrap and went back to 4.3
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JASN_DE said:
I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...
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What makes it a bloody tablet? I never had that issue with mine; 4.3 runs like a champ.

5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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8Fishes said:
With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.