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[Q] HELP on getting "Permanent Root"

Anyone know how to get permanent root?What i mean by permanent is when i reboot the phone i still have it.
I usually update to D107 then root phone using one click root method,install magic aosp rom,go to SuperUser(which i placed in /system/app folder) it ask me to update to newest version,i click ok and it works,i get root access in Estrong File Manager and other root apps,i can delete and modify /system folder from Estrong file manager.
After reboot i go to Estrong file manager and it doesnt work any more,SuperUser looses its update and any root app i install after reeboot dont get SuperUser prompt for root access anymore.And if i try to update SuperUser it says that update was successful but at the bottom i don't see new version.I still get root if i adb shell su,but on android i don't get asked for su anymore and i dont think i have root on the phone.Can anyone post step by step instruction for getting "permanent root",Thanx in advance.

I think you do have root, but the issue is that root has to be re-enabled after every reboot (it is done automatically and doesn't require user intervention). Don't ask me why, but that seems to be how root in the Epic currently works with the jk method. The superuser app will work only the after it is installed, and subsequent to a reboot, will loses its ability to control permissions, and any new apps that need (or want) to get superuser status will do so without a prompt from the superuser app, which could be bad depending on the app.
Check this thread where they found a work around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788939

jokarak said:
I think you do have root, but the issue is that root has to be re-enabled after every reboot (it is done automatically and doesn't require user intervention). Don't ask me why, but that seems to be how root in the Epic currently works with the jk method. The superuser app will work only the after it is installed, and subsequent to a reboot, will loses its ability to control permissions, and any new apps that need (or want) to get superuser status will do so without a prompt from the superuser app, which could be bad depending on the app.
Check this thread where they found a work around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788939
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Thanx man,that definetly looked promising but dint fix the problem.I wondrer if its just certain phones that have this problem because I don't see many people complaining or is it just certain roms and kernels.

lviv73 said:
Thanx man,that definetly looked promising but dint fix the problem.I wondrer if its just certain phones that have this problem because I don't see many people complaining or is it just certain roms and kernels.
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Hey bro, this is what i did because last night i installed the mix kernel and was getting to many dropped calls even in voicemail.
I re-flashed my epic to complete stock, i then ran the Andro/koush one-click method to get clockwork recovery. Then i flashed the Bub's AOSP Magic rom, now i tried to install Andro kernel to get superuser but this didn't work (couldn't gain root), so then i removed superuser.apk and install fluff kernel power saver one and have perm root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...uffkernel-epic-4g-version-1-0-1-2-8-1-mflops/
If i remember correctly those was the steps i did.

mykenyc said:
Hey bro, this is what i did because last night i installed the mix kernel and was getting to many dropped calls even in voicemail.
I re-flashed my epic to complete stock, i then ran the Andro/koush one-click method to get clockwork recovery. Then i flashed the Bub's AOSP Magic rom, now i tried to install Andro kernel to get superuser but this didn't work (couldn't gain root), so then i removed superuser.apk and install fluff kernel power saver one and have perm root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...uffkernel-epic-4g-version-1-0-1-2-8-1-mflops/
If i remember correctly those was the steps i did.
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Thanx man,that fixed my root,you saved me alot of trouble,i guess it was the kernel.Oh and the fluff kernel is probably the smoothest kernel i used so far,now my root is there all the time,thanx again.

[Q] aria google apps hellp needed plz

Ok I been reading alot about people having a problem getting gapps on there phone. I tried all I read none work. Here is what I'm working with. Rooted using unrevoked, I downloaded Tom manager and used it to get cyangenomod 6 r2. I had to download with out that Google app. Checked because it wouldn't load with it. I have downloaded the gapps file from some diffrent places. I see the files when I do clockwork recovery boot. When I apply it I can get. All the way to the screen with the android it says touch to begin but when u touch it just lights up and.nothing happens. If I back up and reflash the rom with the Google app checked it will get to thescreen where it has the blue Droid says cyangenmod with the circle spinning around and it will never load. But with no gapps it loads fine. Please help this is use less with no market.

Did you wipe data before installing the ROM?

dough_boy said:
Ok I been reading alot about people having a problem getting gapps on there phone. I tried all I read none work. Here is what I'm working with. Rooted using unrevoked, I downloaded Tom manager and used it to get cyangenomod 6 r2. I had to download with out that Google app. Checked because it wouldn't load with it. I have downloaded the gapps file from some diffrent places. I see the files when I do clockwork recovery boot. When I apply it I can get. All the way to the screen with the android it says touch to begin but when u touch it just lights up and.nothing happens. If I back up and reflash the rom with the Google app checked it will get to thescreen where it has the blue Droid says cyangenmod with the circle spinning around and it will never load. But with no gapps it loads fine. Please help this is use less with no market.
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I don't understand...it's simple. Download the gapps package to your phone, move it to the root of your sdcard (i.e. /sdcard) then boot into clockwork, install zip from flash card, choose zip, choose the gapps package and voila.
http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-mdpi-20101020-signed.zip

The exact steps to follow:
1. Root with unrevoked.
2. Wipe data/factory reset
3. Install CM6.1 RC2
4. Install gapps
5. Reboot device and everything should work nicely.

kaschenberg said:
The exact steps to follow:
1. Root with unrevoked.
2. Wipe data/factory reset
3. Install CM6.1 RC2
4. Install gapps
5. Reboot device and everything should work nicely.
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It might be worth his while to boot into the ROM after flashing it, then boot back to clockwork and flash the gapps package.

This is what. II see the zip file and u click it and it say installed syccesfully Bujumbura when u reboot it never loads to my home screen.

dough_boy said:
This is what. II see the zip file and u click it and it say installed syccesfully Bujumbura when u reboot it never loads to my home screen.
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dujumbura? What are the procedures you are following to flash the package? Are you using ROM manager? Do you have your phone plugged into USB while booting into clockwork? gotta be a little more specific my friend.

zervic said:
dujumbura? What are the procedures you are following to flash the package? Are you using ROM manager? Do you have your phone plugged into USB while booting into clockwork? gotta be a little more specific my friend.
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Sorry that word was a typo lol. I used rom manager to get the rom. I download the gapps to my SD card using the browser on my phone.

I go into clockwork to install the gapps and reload cygeno. Is this correct way?it works fine all but Google apps.

dough_boy said:
Sorry that word was a typo lol. I used rom manager to get the rom. I download the gapps to my SD card using the browser on my phone.
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Are you using ROM manager to install gapps? If you are, don't. Just use clockwork. I understand it's the long way, and its somewhat of a pain compared to using ROM manager...but i've read about a lot of people having issues with doing things like this via ROM manager...

Ok here is what I just did. I downloaded the above link. I turned my phone off booted into clockwork. Found the above file. Installed it. Rebooted. It loaded. Past the cygeno screen where it then asked me if I wanted to back up with Google I checked no. Then hit continue. It goes to a screen says welcome to libirty. Touch the android to start. A little hand is touching. II do this and nothing happens. I downloaded with my phone browsers.

dough_boy said:
Ok here is what I just did. I downloaded the above link. I turned my phone off booted into clockwork. Found the above file. Installed it. Rebooted. It loaded. Past the cygeno screen where it then asked me if I wanted to back up with Google I checked no. Then hit continue. It goes to a screen says welcome to libirty. Touch the android to start. A little hand is touching. II do this and nothing happens. I downloaded with my phone browsers.
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Not too sure...if i were you i'd ask the OP from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856418

After you guys installed Google apps. Did it go to that. Screen after reboot says touch the android to continue? Its putting the gapps on there I think just some reason my phone wont go. Past that screen then i have to reboot and restore

dough_boy said:
After you guys installed Google apps. Did it go to that. Screen after reboot says touch the android to continue? Its putting the gapps on there I think just some reason my phone wont go. Past that screen then i have to reboot and restore
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mine did that and but I just gave it a few seconds touched where it said too and then everything is perfect now and I have had no problem.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

Should I just start fresh and do all his from a PC from the start. What do I do just format my memory card an restore from the very first restore?

Ok I'm posting to let any one know that may have this problem. I fixed this easy. I just downloaded the gapps for my phone straight from my phone browser except I got the tiny one instead. Clockwork, zip file, install the zip,reboot,bam all Google apps there. For some reason the tiny was the right one for my phone.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

Is it a brick? Or can I fix it?

My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?

xs11e said:
My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?
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What google apps are you looking for, 99% of them can be found online and installed. Have you tried the online Android market (it can send downloads directly to your device) https://market.android.com/
You might be able use visionary to temp root the device, that will get you started

Bupahs said:
What google apps are you looking for, 99% of them can be found online and installed. Have you tried the online Android market (it can send downloads directly to your device) https://market.android.com/
You might be able use visionary to temp root the device, that will get you started
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Online market won't install because I've flashed my HD2 to Android so it keeps saying that everything is already installed.
Visionary won't temp root, nothing will, don't know why? Do you know just how many rooting proceedures there are on the WWW? I've tried each that I've found 3 or more times with no luck.
I'm going to try to see if the online market will allow me to install Root Explorer, that may help me some....
It won't. There seems no way to change phones???

xs11e said:
My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?
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When you tried to restore, did you flash the recovery back to version 2.x? You need a 2.x recovery (use 2.5.1.2) to flash CM6, stock, and other Froyo roms. This should let you restore back to stock. Supposedly clockworkmod 3.0.0.6 can flash back and forth between Froyo and Gingerbread roms, but I haven't tried it yet.

Thanks but whatever version of Clockworkmod I have is what I have since the critter won't allow anything to be changed???
I can't get into Clockworkmod so I think changing versions won't help but I can't change so it's sort of moot at this point. The phone will do either one of these things:
1. Boot normally into the partial CM7 build which isn't usable as explained elsewhere.
2. It'll do the hold Vol Dn and hit power boot but then it won't do anything, the only option that works is normal boot and then I'm right back into CM7.
3. I can select "restore" or boot normally and select ROM Manager and hit boot into recovery and it'll reboot to the error screen, red triangle with ! sign on it.

That is the stock Recovery (which doesn't do anything but display the lovely triangle).
If Rom Manager is running in your broken CM7 system, you could re-flash Clockwork Recovery.
You can also flash a Clockwork Recovery image using adb or Fastboot.

xs11e said:
Thanks but whatever version of Clockworkmod I have is what I have since the critter won't allow anything to be changed???
I can't get into Clockworkmod so I think changing versions won't help but I can't change so it's sort of moot at this point. The phone will do either one of these things:
1. Boot normally into the partial CM7 build which isn't usable as explained elsewhere.
2. It'll do the hold Vol Dn and hit power boot but then it won't do anything, the only option that works is normal boot and then I'm right back into CM7.
3. I can select "restore" or boot normally and select ROM Manager and hit boot into recovery and it'll reboot to the error screen, red triangle with ! sign on it.
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As mentioned the red triangle is the stock recovery. Not sure how you flashed CM7 with the stock recovery but for some reason it sounds like that is all you have on your phone. FYI...If you hold the vol up and power button at the red triangle screen it should boot you into the stock recovery.
A couple of things that caught my eye. You say that your phone now says s=on. did it used to say s=off? When you say you went back to CM7 after trying to flash your backup, what steps did you take to try and go back? Was your backup made thru Rom Manager? Did you try to use Rom Manager to restore your backup?
First thing I would try is a full wipe and factory reset from the stock recovery if you can get there. You need to try and get CM7 to load correctly. If you can do that then you should be able to flash a new recovery. You dont need s=off to flash roms but you do need root.
Do you still have root acces? Ie: can you use SuperUser? Try a few root apps and see if they as for su permission.

jggimi said:
That is the stock Recovery (which doesn't do anything but display the lovely triangle).
If Rom Manager is running in your broken CM7 system, you could re-flash Clockwork Recovery.
You can also flash a Clockwork Recovery image using adb or Fastboot.
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Thanks, ROM manager is running but re-flashing Clockwork Recovery doesn't help anything, it completes successfully but any attempt to do anything with it gets me to the red triangle.
I wish I could flash a recovery image using ADB or Fastboot, neither will function.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
As mentioned the red triangle is the stock recovery. Not sure how you flashed CM7 with the stock recovery but for some reason it sounds like that is all you have on your phone. FYI...If you hold the vol up and power button at the red triangle screen it should boot you into the stock recovery.
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Correct, that's all that's there or at least all I can access so far. Vol up + pwr does boot me into stock recovery but that doesn't help.... <sigh>
A couple of things that caught my eye. You say that your phone now says s=on. did it used to say s=off? When you say you went back to CM7 after trying to flash your backup, what steps did you take to try and go back? Was your backup made thru Rom Manager? Did you try to use Rom Manager to restore your backup?
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Yes, I did have S=off to flash. Steps trying to go back were none, really, after the restore failed the phone wouldn't do anything as detailed in my posts. The backup was made through Rom Manager and that's what I used to try the restore.
First thing I would try is a full wipe and factory reset from the stock recovery if you can get there. You need to try and get CM7 to load correctly. If you can do that then you should be able to flash a new recovery. You dont need s=off to flash roms but you do need root.
Do you still have root acces? Ie: can you use SuperUser? Try a few root apps and see if they as for su permission.
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Wiped and factory reset several times with no change in the problem. I'd love to get CM7 to load correctly but since I didn't originally load the GAPPS it's pretty useless, no gmail, no contacts or calendar, no Android market (which means all that's on the phone is all I can get, the online market won't work as mentioned in a previous post.) I cannot flash a new recovery, that's what I've been trying to do for several days now.
I do have root access, I can use SuperUser but it doesn't seem to do anything. Attempts to re-root have failed.

i feel ya bro, the reason I am asking these questions is to try and figure out what you have tried and not tried. CM7 isnt useless if you can get it to load. Just because you dont have the gapps installed, that shouldnt do anything but make you not have the market and google apps. Do you have adb set up and will it recognize your device? The biggest question is why would it have turned s=on and why wouldnt rom manager be able to flash a new recovery. Rom manager has a problem making/flashing backups using 3.0.0.X recoveries so that is where this problem started I think. Thats why I am trying to get you a clean working CM7. Does it give you a error when trying to install recovery through rom manager? Have you tried going to applications/manage applications/all/Rom Manager and clearing the data?
If you have su access you might also be able to flash a new recovery via terminal emulator.

Thanks, I appreciate the help and sympathy! I've fixed it in a very unorthodox way, it involved going to T-Mobile's website, changing phone to Blackberry 9700, moving SIM to 9700 and switching data plan to Blackberry.
Dang, that's a little screen....
The reason I'm maybe not giving you all the information you need is that I have very bad arthritis in my hands and I try to type as little as possible, I'm sorry if I'm not being clear but don't hesitate to ask if you need more info.
Not having the gmail means no sync, can't import contacts or calendar, no apps means what I have on the phone is ALL I HAVE, I can't get anything else. That's why I say it's unusable.
ADB does not recognize the device.
Installing recovery through Rom manager results in red triangle.
I did clear Rom manager data as you suggested but it didn't help.
How could I flash recover through terminal emulator, I do have that and can access it and typing SU does give me the # prompt so that's helpful maybe? I'd need step by step directions because I'm very unfamiliar with using terminal emulator, I've only used it to follow directions given in the rooting instructions.

xs11e said:
Thanks, I appreciate the help and sympathy! I've fixed it in a very unorthodox way, it involved going to T-Mobile's website, changing phone to Blackberry 9700, moving SIM to 9700 and switching data plan to Blackberry.
Dang, that's a little screen....
The reason I'm maybe not giving you all the information you need is that I have very bad arthritis in my hands and I try to type as little as possible, I'm sorry if I'm not being clear but don't hesitate to ask if you need more info.
Not having the gmail means no sync, can't import contacts or calendar, no apps means what I have on the phone is ALL I HAVE, I can't get anything else. That's why I say it's unusable.
ADB does not recognize the device.
Installing recovery through Rom manager results in red triangle.
I did clear Rom manager data as you suggested but it didn't help.
How could I flash recover through terminal emulator, I do have that and can access it and typing SU does give me the # prompt so that's helpful maybe? I'd need step by step directions because I'm very unfamiliar with using terminal emulator, I've only used it to follow directions given in the rooting instructions.
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to flash a recovery image via terminal emulator if you are on cm7 is:
Type "su" and then enter the code below after putting the recovery on your sd card. Make sure you name it recovery.img
Code:
flash_image recovery /sdcard/[COLOR=black]recovery.img[/COLOR]
LMK if that works.

Thanks, I'm not sure what I expected but what happened is exactly nothing:
Put Recovery.img on card, booted up phone, started Terminal Emulator got:
export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
#
And that's it, nothing happened at all, just went back to the # prompt.

xs11e said:
Thanks, I'm not sure what I expected but what happened is exactly nothing:
Put Recovery.img on card, booted up phone, started Terminal Emulator got:
export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
#
And that's it, nothing happened at all, just went back to the # prompt.
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As long as you named it recovery.img and not Recovery.img it should have worked. Try to boot into recovery by powering off your phone and then holding the vol but and power button at the same time. Then chose recovery. Or if you on CM7 just hold power button for a sec and then reboot and recovery.
LMK if that works.

I checked the name several times, booting into recovery just takes me to the red triangle, I've tried that many times before, nothing's changed.
I suspect it's a brick?

xs11e said:
I checked the name several times, booting into recovery just takes me to the red triangle, I've tried that many times before, nothing's changed.
I suspect it's a brick?
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ok, I still dont believe its a brick. Are you running a rom at all? I mean does it boot into CM7 even though you dont have Gapps? Or is it totaly stuck on bootloop all the time. I am going to send you a PM with my Gtalk. Add me if you want and maybe it will make it a little easier to communicate and help.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
ok, I still dont believe its a brick. Are you running a rom at all? I mean does it boot into CM7 even though you dont have Gapps? Or is it totaly stuck on bootloop all the time.
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It boots right up in CM7, if I'd added the Gapps at the beginning I'd just be running it happily I think? I'd be able to sync and get needed apps from the market, etc. etc.
I am going to send you a PM with my Gtalk. Add me if you want and maybe it will make it a little easier to communicate and help.
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Thanks, I'd really prefer to do it this way. Why? Because I'm really sick of messing with it and I hate to spend much time working on it now, I've resigned myself to having a very costly paperweight! Using the thread here allows me to check in once or twice a day when the urge strikes, besides, I really don't IM, never have, never could figure it out. I don't text either, it's blocked at T-Mo's website and on my phones as well. I'm not really a technophobe but I'm 99.2 % one.....

That's fine. I was just trying to maybe make it a little easier in ya.
If you can install a .apk I can send you the market and a few things. We can try to get a few things going that way if you want. If we can get the market going you can get gmail and every thing else from there. will attach the market and tell you how to install if you want
Sent from my HTC Glacier

If he's still s=on, he's not going to be able to flash recovery. You need to get s=off.
Grab the .apk for Visionary. Grab gfree. Grab an apk for a terminal emulator if you don't have one. Put them all on your sdcard, boot into CM7, and follow the instructions for the gfree method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
If you don't have a file manager to get to them, you could try SMS'ing the download links to the phone and installing through the browser for the .apk's.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
That's fine. I was just trying to maybe make it a little easier in ya.
If you can install a .apk I can send you the market and a few things. We can try to get a few things going that way if you want. If we can get the market going you can get gmail and every thing else from there. will attach the market and tell you how to install if you want
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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I can't install an APK. I got all the Google apps and put them on the SD card, if I click on one I get "couldn't parse the file" what ever that means?
Actuall, it did install the Market apk but it won't open.....

[Q] EVO Rom/Root problems

I am having some serious issues with my evo. I have tried 10 different methods, googled 100 different help guides and still no fix.
I had originally rooted my phone using simple root and put the "fixed" froyo rom on there. Everything worked fine, but I was outdated and having some really slow issues so I wanted to try a new rom...Fresh.
Well I tried a few methods, but I somehow reverted my evo back to a nonroot of the original OS. Whenever i go into hboot, my recovery does not work. I push the PC36img and load it, then restart then I attempt to go to my recovery where it gives me the error picture with the yellow/red triangle. I then select recovery (after pressing UP volume and powerbutton) and try to load update from sd card. Everytime I do that I get a Failed error.
I've tried to reroot using several methods off this website, I've done everything I can to get it working but can't. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Try reflashing your recovery image.

BTW I have hboot 79.0 with S-ON, so it looks like I def became unrooted.

noweakness said:
BTW I have hboot 79.0 with S-ON, so it looks like I def became unrooted.
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Not sure how it would have just unrooted itself. I would run an RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Then, I would re-root and start clean again.

Heaterz16 said:
Try reflashing your recovery image.
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I have a recovery-ra.img, how do I tell it to flash it?
I pulled up this list of recovery files, is there a particular one I should use?
htt p://goo-inside.me/amon_ra/supersonic/

Heaterz16 said:
Not sure how it would have just unrooted itself. I would run an RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Then, I would re-root and start clean again.
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Ok I downloaded the top item:
RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed
Ran the exe, surprisingly picked up my phone and started the image update. My phone restarted and it forced closed the app on my computer. Now I have a new HTC logo for about 5 min on my phone not doing anything. Should I wait it out or restart my phone?

noweakness said:
Ok I downloaded the top item:
RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed
Ran the exe, surprisingly picked up my phone and started the image update. My phone restarted and it forced closed the app on my computer. Now I have a new HTC logo for about 5 min on my phone not doing anything. Should I wait it out or restart my phone?
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I would have waited about ten minutes then restarted the phone. If the phone is stuck at the HTC logo, then I would go ahead and re-run the RUU.
Let me know how it turns out.

Heaterz16 said:
I would have waited about ten minutes then restarted the phone. If the phone is stuck at the HTC logo, then I would go ahead and re-run the RUU.
Let me know how it turns out.
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ok, finally got it working. Had to restart the phone manually and try it on a different computer. It updated it to the newer version of android and hboot, thank goodness! That was the easiest and most productive thing I've been able to do so far, thanks!
Well now I try to boot into recovery and get the same error:
can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I get :
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
When i try to load update from sdcard

noweakness said:
ok, finally got it working. Had to restart the phone manually and try it on a different computer. It updated it to the newer version of android and hboot, thank goodness! That was the easiest and most productive thing I've been able to do so far, thanks!
Well now I try to boot into recovery and get the same error:
can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I get :
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
When i try to load update from sdcard
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Ok, so, I think you said you got the RUU working which would have completely restored the phone to unrooted and stock from factory.
Now, you need to re-root your phone using one of the methods on xda. I used the manual method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. However, many people have had success with the one-click methods.
After you re-root (which will likely included installing a recovery), select a rom you want to try, boot to recovery, wipe and flash it. A great starter ROM is MikFroyo 4.6 or 4.5.

Try downloading the PC36IMG.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
put that on the root of your SD card, then boot into HBOOT and it should find that PC36IMG.zip after a few seconds and ask if you want to flash it. Choose yes and let it finish. Should then be able to reboot into recovery.

ok thanks, i'll try it when I get back home

jesuspgt said:
Try downloading the PC36IMG.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
put that on the root of your SD card, then boot into HBOOT and it should find that PC36IMG.zip after a few seconds and ask if you want to flash it. Choose yes and let it finish. Should then be able to reboot into recovery.
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Ok, I tried this method...the filesize of pc36img.zip is only 3.5mb, but it didn't seem to work. It scanned the file then just went back to the hboot screen with my options never asking to flash.
I'm going to try to reroot using the other method now...

So I clicked the link and he forwarded to the autoroot.bat page so I used his method. It worked well (the 2nd time around) all the way until it started to push amon_ra_1.8-mod.... then after that it says rebooting into the bootloader, and it reboots into it and just says waiting for phone...
It does appear that my phone is rooted now, but my recovery is still not working. If I use ROM manager will it work since my phone is rooted or do I need to have a rooted ROM to run it off of?

noweakness said:
So I clicked the link and he forwarded to the autoroot.bat page so I used his method. It worked well (the 2nd time around) all the way until it started to push amon_ra_1.8-mod.... then after that it says rebooting into the bootloader, and it reboots into it and just says waiting for phone...
It does appear that my phone is rooted now, but my recovery is still not working. If I use ROM manager will it work since my phone is rooted or do I need to have a rooted ROM to run it off of?
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Does your phone show s-off while in the bootloader? If so you should be able to run the FlashZip script and use that to flash the pc36img-sprintlovers zip. That one contains everything needed to bring your phone up to date and will leave you with a rooted rom and recovery.
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xHausx said:
Does your phone show s-off while in the bootloader? If so you should be able to run the FlashZip script and use that to flash the pc36img-sprintlovers zip. That one contains everything needed to bring your phone up to date and will leave you with a rooted rom and recovery.
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FINALLY! Thanks a million! My recovery is now working and it installed the built in sprinter lovers rom, I guess the anti-virus was stopping it so I disabled it and ran the flash script. I was able to install Fresh on there, just to try it out. I do have a few questions though:
1. I noticed after going through many pages that to update to a newer ROM version you don't always have to wipe clean, you can just install (or flash) the new update? I noticed in Fresh there is a built in app that does that. Is this true for most ROMS or only certain ones?
2. I assume I am using the RA recovery. I noticed the backup/restore feature on there. What exactly does that backup and when should I use it?
3. I've noticed I've been very low with memory on my phone (not SD card), I have about 258MB free. How can I clear space and when I mount my phone what files are important to keep and can I get rid of, is it okay to get rid of my rom.zip's and radio.zip's?
Thanks again to everyone, autoroot was def the most painless root ever.

noweakness said:
FINALLY! Thanks a million! My recovery is now working and it installed the built in sprinter lovers rom, I guess the anti-virus was stopping it so I disabled it and ran the flash script. I was able to install Fresh on there, just to try it out. I do have a few questions though:
1. I noticed after going through many pages that to update to a newer ROM version you don't always have to wipe clean, you can just install (or flash) the new update? I noticed in Fresh there is a built in app that does that. Is this true for most ROMS or only certain ones?
2. I assume I am using the RA recovery. I noticed the backup/restore feature on there. What exactly does that backup and when should I use it?
3. I've noticed I've been very low with memory on my phone (not SD card), I have about 258MB free. How can I clear space and when I mount my phone what files are important to keep and can I get rid of, is it okay to get rid of my rom.zip's and radio.zip's?
Thanks again to everyone, autoroot was def the most painless root ever.
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1) You'll want to always wipe your cache/dalvik (I do everytime I'm in the recovery) but the Data depends on the ROM. Usually if you are going from one sense rom to another you are ok and the same for AOSP to AOSP. Going from Sense to AOSP you'll need to wipe data though.
2) Autoroot comes with a modified version of AmonRA, they are mostly just speed tweaks. To make a complete backup of your ROM select Boot (kernel), System (ROM), Data (Apps & Settings) and .android (apps on SD card)
3) You can delete the zips from your sd card if you don't need them but that's about normal for free memory.

[HOW TO] Root and Install CWM without USB, Odin, or Computer: 2013 Version

Thanks to alephzain, bbelos/CMTeamEpic, DRockstar, koush, neldar, QBKing77, and toadlife!
See a change log of edits to this post at the bottom. Any corrections or suggestions are welcomed.
This How To will explain how you can root and install ClockworkMod on a stock Epic 4G (SPH-D700) running Gingerbread FC09 without a USB cable, Odin, and with or without a computer. My phones USB pins are busted, but otherwise it charges fine and works great. So I spent many determined days figuring out how I may eventually install CyanogenMod. This first requires getting ClockworkMod on the phone.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Be sure to follow the exact procedure below.
How will you get files onto your phones external sdcard?
Novice:
- Without a computer: Download files using a browser found in the Google Play Store: Firefox, Dolphin.
- With a computer: Email yourself the files and use your phones email app to save them to your sdcard.
- With a computer: Remove your external sdcard, insert it into an adapter, then insert/connect it to your computer to copy files to the sdcard.
Expert:
- With a computer: Its possible to access "offline files" with Google Drive, but its a bit cumbersome to find the file using a file manager.
- With WiFi and a computer: After gaining root, install the "WiFi ADB" app and download the Android ADB tools for your OS: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
Transfer the following files to your sdcard (see attachments below):
- Framaroot-1.6.1.apk
- CleanGB_Kernel_0b28e9767b.zip
- cwm-5.0.2.7-epic4g.zip
Get Rooted:
- On your phone go to Settings -> Applications -> Check: Unknown Sources
- Install the Framaroot-1.6.1.apk package.
Install the following apps from the Google Play Store:
- SGS Kernel Flasher
- ROM Manager
Start SGS Kernel Flasher:
- Backup your stock kernel, but if you re-flash your stock kernel then you will need to repeat the following procedures.
- Choose Kernel -> Select CleanGB_Kernel_0b28e9767b.zip -> Flash Kernel
- Reboot
Start ROM Manager:
- Select Reboot into Recovery
Recovery Mode:
- Press the Settings icon: You should now be in CWM v3.1.0.1 (use volume up/down, camera to select, home to go back)
- Select: install zip from sdcard -> toggle signature verification -> choose zip from sdcard -> cwm-5.0.2.7-epic4g.zip
- Reboot
Verify CWM Installed:
- Power off phone, wait a few seconds after vibration indicates phone is powered off.
- Hold down: Volume Down, Camera, and Power On.
- Release when the icons light up.
- You should see "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7" and the menu in blue text.
Congratulations you flashed ClockworkMod without USB or Odin!
What now? How about installing CyanogenMod? Well thats my next step and I highly suggest your phone already be activated, the PRL updated, data/contacts synced/backed up, and all services working before installing CyanogenMod stable. Otherwise, as of today (CM v10.1), you will need to temporarily boot into Samsungs FC09 in order to perform these functions.
I hope you find this How To helpful. Feel free to aks any questions, but please Google search for any "inbetween steps" that I have left out of this How To for the purpose of brevity.
Good luck!
Change Log:
12/08/2013: (Major Addition) Added important note. Added backing up stock kernel.
11/21/2013: (Minor Addition) Added email method for transferring files to your sdcard. Clean up.
11/20/2013: (Minor Addition) In case their sources disappear I have attached the required files.
11/18/2013: (Minor Correction) Improved links. Clean up.
11/17/2013: (Major Correction) Corrected spelling of Framaroot-1.6.1.apk filename.
11/16/2013: (Minor Correction) After installing CyanogenMod 10.1 (STABLE) I realized the above version CWM is not the latest.

Appreciate the effort and updated info.

Mr_You said:
Thanks to alephzain, bbelos/CMTeamEpic, DRockstar, koush, neldar, QBKing77, and toadlife!
See a change log of edits to this post at the bottom. Any corrections or suggestions are welcomed.
This How To will explain how you can root and install ClockworkMod (CWM) on a stock Epic 4G (SPH-D700) running FC09 without a USB cable, Odin, and with or without a computer. My phones USB pins are busted, but otherwise it charges fine and works great. So I spent many determined days figuring out how I may eventually install CyanogenMod. This first requires getting ClockworkMod on the phone.
How will you get files onto your phones external sdcard?
Novice:
- Without a computer: Download files using a browser found in the Google Play Store: Firefox, Dolphin.
- With a computer: Email yourself the files and use your phones email app to save them to your sdcard.
- With a computer: Remove your external sdcard, insert it into an adapter, then insert/connect it to your computer to copy files to the sdcard.
Expert:
- With a computer: Its possible to access "offline files" with Google Drive, but its a bit cumbersome to find the file using a file manager.
- With WiFi and a computer: After gaining root, install the "WiFi ADB" app and download the Android ADB tools for your OS: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
Transfer the following files to your sdcard (see attachments below):
- Framaroot-1.6.1.apk
- CleanGB_Kernel_0b28e9767b.zip
- cwm-5.0.2.7-epic4g.zip
Get Rooted:
- On your phone go to Settings -> Applications -> Check: Unknown Sources
- Install the Framaroot-1.6.1.apk package.
Install the following apps from the Google Play Store:
- SGS Kernel Flasher
- ROM Manager
Start SGS Kernel Flasher:
- You may backup your kernel, but if you re-flash your stock kernel then you will need to repeat the following procedures.
- Choose Kernel -> Select CleanGB_Kernel_0b28e9767b.zip -> Flash Kernel
- Reboot
Start ROM Manager:
- Select Reboot into Recovery
Recovery Mode:
- Press the Settings icon: You should now be in CWM v3.1.0.1 (use volume up/down, camera to select, home to go back)
- Select: install zip from sdcard -> toggle signature verification -> choose zip from sdcard -> cwm-5.0.2.7-epic4g.zip
- Reboot
Verify CWM Installed:
- Power off phone, wait a few seconds after vibration indicates phone is powered off.
- Hold down: Volume Down, Camera, and Power On.
- Release when the icons light up.
- You should see "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7" and the menu in blue text.
Congratulations you flashed ClockworkMod without USB or Odin!
What now? How about installing CyanogenMod? Well thats my next step and I highly suggest your phone already be activated, the PRL updated, data/contacts synced/backed up, and all services working before installing CyanogenMod stable. Otherwise, as of today (CM v10.1), you will need to temporarily boot into Samsungs FC09 in order to perform these functions.
I hope you find this How To helpful. Feel free to aks any questions, but please Google search for any "inbetween steps" that I have left out of this How To for the purpose of brevity.
Good luck!
Change Log:
11/21/2013: (Minor Addition) Added email method for transferring files to your sdcard. Clean up.
11/20/2013: (Minor Addition) In case their sources disappear I have attached the required files.
11/18/2013: (Minor Correction) Improved links. Clean up.
11/17/2013: (Major Correction) Corrected spelling of Framaroot-1.6.1.apk filename.
11/16/2013: (Minor Correction) After installing CyanogenMod 10.1 (STABLE) I realized the above version CWM is not the latest.
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This rooting method works, but i have a problem.
The kernel has the su binary installed, nd thats the problem; with a root checker it says no root access. Now i cant do anything else because everytime i do something to fix this issue, it stays the same after a reboot
Please help me

TheKillah512 said:
This rooting method works, but i have a problem.
The kernel has the su binary installed, nd thats the problem; with a root checker it says no root access. Now i cant do anything else because everytime i do something to fix this issue, it stays the same after a reboot
Please help me
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The purpose of the CleanGB kernel is to provide CWM v3.1.0.1. You only need to install Framaroot to root the phone.
I'm not exactly sure where you are stuck or what you are trying to achieve. I tried duplicating the process, but it is entirely possible that I made an error so any corrections are helpful.

Mr_You said:
The purpose of the CleanGB kernel is to provide CWM v3.1.0.1. You only need to install Framaroot to root the phone.
I'm not exactly sure where you are stuck or what you are trying to achieve. I tried duplicating the process, but it is entirely possible that I made an error so any corrections are helpful.
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Mr_You said:
The purpose of the CleanGB kernel is to provide CWM v3.1.0.1. You only need to install Framaroot to root the phone.
I'm not exactly sure where you are stuck or what you are trying to achieve. I tried duplicating the process, but it is entirely possible that I made an error so any corrections are helpful.
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Yes, im sorry that i have to make u go through all this trouble because maybe im doing this wrong..
What i was trying to say is that the kernel also has 'su' in /sbin (im not sure if this is the problem but in my galaxy s3 the 'su' is only located in /system/bin and /system/xbin)
I also read this article where it said that the 'su binary' isnt supposed to be in /sbin because in this case (what i think its saying is) that everytime it boots up the /sbin is part of the booting process. Here is the website link: htt p://a ndro idsu.co m (cant post links yet damn)
" People with the su binary located in /sbin have a much tougher time. I’ve found that these are mostly Samsung users (with the notable exception of the Nexus S). I don’t know why it’s done this way, and if anybody does know, please let me know, but for some reason kernel and ROM devs for these devices put su in /sbin. /sbin is part of the boot.img, and therefore any modifications to that directory will be erased on boot."
What i first did is installed Framaroot nd rooted the phone, then got excited because i had been trying to root it for like 2 years now with no success, so since i thought i knew what i was doing, i trailed off nd tried to install CWMR through Rom Manager then went into recovery nd for some weird reason it just put me in the stock android recovery so i knew something went wrong... Then i got scared nd tried to go back to your method nd installed the kernel flasher so i flashed the kernel, rebooted, nd then went into the superuser app. It said the SU binary needed to be updated (got surprised because it didnt say that before i flashed the kernel) i put continue nd it showed me an option to install it through TWRC/CWMR or install normally,so i chose through CWM nd it actually booted me up into CWM but then it said something about a command not working [it was some couple days ago so i cant remember what it said exactly] so i messed around with CWM and tried to installed CyanogenMod which i had downloaded previously, did the signature verification toggle off, but it still said installation aborted because of the command or something... Then i rebooted the phone nd then the problems started, in the superSU app i tried to install normally but it said installation failed... Got the root checker nd said su found in /sbin /system/bin and /system/xbin but i had no root access so i panicked nd tried to root it again with Framaroot, it said success nd i rebboted but it didnt work. I ran the root checker again nd it was the same. I tried to go back to a backup i did when i only had root without the kernel but(which by the way by the end of the backup it said couldnt make md5 sums)but idk why but it took me to the stock android recovery so i couldnt make a restore. I felt trapped cs i couldnt go back to before i had the kernel. With no root access i couldnt also do the restore to the stock kernel(SGS Kernel Flasher app) because i made a backup of it in case something went wrong.. Unfortunately it did so now with no root access i cant really do nothing anymore... I was thinking of using odin to go back to its original state, but then i remembered that it was impossible because odin never recognized my phone while in download mode... Im short in options on what to do please help, im still a noob

Can you try to do a factory reset from the stock recovery and start over?

Mr_You said:
Can you try to do a factory reset from the stock recovery and start over?
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Yes, thats exactly what i did two times but it didnt work because once you flash something theres no way to go back unless you have a backup and a way to restore it or is there a way i dont know of?? I also checked right after the factory reset in the settings nd it still had the same kernel, and the root checker still said the su binaries were installed in the 3 places i mentioned earlier nd still without root access

TheKillah512 said:
Yes, thats exactly what i did two times but it didnt work because once you flash something theres no way to go back unless you have a backup and a way to restore it or is there a way i dont know of?? I also checked right after the factory reset in the settings nd it still had the same kernel, and the root checker still said the su binaries were installed in the 3 places i mentioned earlier nd still without root access
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EDIT: If you have tried this procedure on a Galaxy S3 then I would suggest this discussion be continued on the appropriate forum.

Mr_You said:
EDIT: If you have tried this procedure on a Galaxy S3 then I would suggest this discussion be continued on the appropriate forum.
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No, lets get this straight. I already rooted my gs3 a long time ago nd i didnt use this procedure with it. I used this procedure with my Epic

TheKillah512 said:
No, lets get this straight. I already rooted my gs3 a long time ago nd i didnt use this procedure with it. I used this procedure with my Epic
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I assume you've already tried uninstalling any SU-type packages?

Mr_You said:
I assume you've already tried uninstalling any SU-type packages?
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Yes i did.. In the SuperSU app in the settings section it has an option to Full Unroot, nd i think it works but it has to reboot, and at the time of reboot, the kernel overrides it and gets rid of any modifications like getting unrooted..
Looks like im going to have to bear with this nd just leave it like that, besides i already have a rooted gs3

TheKillah512 said:
Yes i did.. In the SuperSU app in the settings section it has an option to Full Unroot, nd i think it works but it has to reboot, and at the time of reboot, the kernel overrides it and gets rid of any modifications like getting unrooted..
Looks like im going to have to bear with this nd just leave it like that, besides i already have a rooted gs3
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So your are running CleanGB? When you open ROM Manager and select "Boot into Recovery" does it boot into CWM v3 and are you able to flash CWM v5 or do you still get the error?

Mr_You said:
So your are running CleanGB? When you open ROM Manager and select "Boot into Recovery" does it boot into CWM v3 and are you able to flash CWM v5 or do you still get the error?
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Yes i am running CleanGB nd when i use rom manager and select "Boot into Recovery" it does nothing because i dont have root access and that means it doesnt have permissions to boot into recovery, however i did also try to manually boot into recovery but it took me to the stock recovery.. Is this supposed to happen??

TheKillah512 said:
Yes i am running CleanGB nd when i use rom manager and select "Boot into Recovery" it does nothing because i dont have root access and that means it doesnt have permissions to boot into recovery, however i did also try to manually boot into recovery but it took me to the stock recovery.. Is this supposed to happen??
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Yes that is normal.
I see you say you tried reinstalling Framaroot, but try reinstalling again. But don't reboot. Afterwards go straight into ROM Manager and select "Boot into Recovery" and if rooting was successful I believe it should boot into CleanGBs CWM v3 recovery.

It did boot up into CWM v3 nd i tried to flash the CWM v5 but there were these weird things, look ill show u a picture of it.
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TheKillah512 said:
It did boot up into CWM v3 nd i tried to flash the CWM v5 but there were these weird things, look ill show u a picture of it.
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For some reason all the forums posts images are broken for me. It seems to be a 404 error.
Ok lets try this:
Make sure you are rooted (install Framaroot again if you need to, don't reboot) and start SGS Kernel Flasher and flash your backup backed up stock kernel and reboot. Then try following the procedure again from the top as described to try to install CWM. Rebooting your stock kernel may or may not fix these issues. If it doesn't then it may require finding a way to fix it via a Terminal app or other method.

I seem to be rooted in some ways but not in others
I installed Framaroot and it claimed success. However, that doesn't seem to be true according to the Root Checker app. I removed Framaroot, rebooted, reinstalled, and reran it with no difference. But what's weird is the first time it seemed to work, so I went ahead and tried to flash CleanGB and it worked. I'm currently running CleanGB.
The problem now is that when I ask ROM Manager to Boot into Recovery it won't do it, presumably because I don't have root access. What can I do next? Any suggestions are appreciated!

cdupree said:
The problem now is that when I ask ROM Manager to Boot into Recovery it won't do it, presumably because I don't have root access. What can I do next? Any suggestions are appreciated!
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I would try reinstalling Framaroot (and don't reboot) then: Start ROM Manager->Reboot into Recovery

cdupree said:
I installed Framaroot and it claimed success. However, that doesn't seem to be true according to the Root Checker app. I removed Framaroot, rebooted, reinstalled, and reran it with no difference. But what's weird is the first time it seemed to work, so I went ahead and tried to flash CleanGB and it worked. I'm currently running CleanGB.
The problem now is that when I ask ROM Manager to Boot into Recovery it won't do it, presumably because I don't have root access. What can I do next? Any suggestions are appreciated!
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Thats exactly what is happening to me too, friend...
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TheKillah512 said:
Thats exactly what is happening to me too, friend...
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Sorry you're mistaken. You just posted a pic of CWM v3. So your "Reboot into Recovery" from ROM Manager worked.
Did you try what I suggested here to fix your errors?