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[Q] [NAND] How to charge an empty battery?

NAND is a new experience with HD2 but what if the battery gets empty?
Mine won't recharge.
The LED lights orange but there is no recharge.
Seems like the devs have forgotten this very important thing...
Any ideas?

plug in the usb cable
then turn it off it wont shutdown completely and red led will turn on

Proz00 said:
plug in the usb cable
then turn it off it wont shutdown completely and red led will turn on
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Thanks, but the phone is off (battery is completely empty)...
Orange light is on but it does not charge...

Pull your battery out and also the plug. Wait one minute. Put in the adapter first, let it charge for 3 minutes, then startup the device. Pls do and report back
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With the phone off it should just charge, magldr doesn't load until turned on so its not nand related
Are you using usb charger or mains?

Ok, thanks. I will test it.

whynot66 said:
With the phone off it should just charge, magldr doesn't load until turned on so its not nand related
Are you using usb charger or mains?
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how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.

simax said:
how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.
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You tell me if I'm wrong but he's trying to charge his phone witch has no power the phone is off and it won't charge so how is that nand related?

If it is a battery that has not been used for a LONG time then you must "shock" it to be able to charge it again. Use a standard 9V alkaline battery and connect the +, - poles to the HTC battery +, - poles respectively using 2 wires - do that for 30 to 60 seconds. Then put the HTC battery back in the phone.
WARNING: Do NOT connect the 9V alkaline battery to the phone. Only to the HTC battery which you have removed from the phone.

Lol same thing happen to me yesterday i charge the phone for 10-15 mins then unplug the phone and pull battery then start the phone once completely in android replug it. I think dft said it was a known problem for nand to not start sometime when plug in although it only happen to me when I'm completely drained.
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whynot66 said:
You tell me if I'm wrong but he's trying to charge his phone witch has no power the phone is off and it won't charge so how is that nand related?
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its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)

phone wont turn on
the same problem happen to my battery in nand android is empty and when charge the orange light bulb wont turn on.help

simax said:
its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)
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I'll take your word for it he's probably fixed it by now anyways

Charging while phone is off is buggy for me since I installed MAGLDR.
For example sometimes orange light bulb freezes turned on even i unplug the cable, until I pull the battery.
Firsty I thought that the problem is impossible to be caused by magldr, but now lots of people with magldr installed are experienced battery charging problems ... interesting.
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PS: Charging on Android was also always buggy for me since the first HD2-Android release.
Some of the problems (randomly happens):
1- Charging stops when it hits to %90
2- Battery level jumps from %90 to 100% while charging (according to the JuicePlotter app, it draws battery graph by time)
I'm using TMOUS HD2 and tried every single Android build since the first release.

simax said:
how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.
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simax said:
its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)
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I have reproduced this case several times,
but no, I don't have magldr installed,
only winmo and SD android.
I presume this is the bug of HD2 in general, that it won't charge when the battery level is 1% or bellow. Several occasions the phone was shut down during the sleep. Woke up and plug the charger and it always gives me orange-dim-green-dim-red-dim and so on,,, (note that this is in WinMo) and after turned the phone on, it stops charging and 15 seconds after booting, it shut off.
what I always do when I encounter this is performing battery cycles reset.
or,,, just uninstall the battery, wait for 10-30 seconds, re-install the battery, and with the phone off, charge the phone using wall charger.

These are the dangers playing with ROMS people. The rom controls vital functions of the hardware, including the way the system charges. This is a serious flaw that must be addressed immediately, and imo should not have been released if known about. The new territory of nand builds could even brick our phones permanently. I wouldnt mess around without reading reviews first. Android devs here have been quick to release builds overnight because they know it's just running off the SD card and can always be wiped back to winmo. Not anymore, these builds need SERIOUS testing first before being released to the general public.

This is caused from NAND Magldr.
If you have a cable plugged into your phone, either wall charger or USB, it will freeze when the phone shuts down.
Solution!!
Dont have the cable plugged in while powering down android.
If your LED stays orange after unplugging, pull your battery for 3 seconds and start again, it will only do this upon shutdown with some kind of cable plugged in.
This has never happened before Magldr.

This is a big issue... I dont know when Devs Team is gonna look into this and fix it...
Would it brick my phone?

No it won't brick your phone...how I solved it...discussed a couple days ago, here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924347
Good luck...

NAND Phone-Off Charge Issue - *WORKAROUND*

I've been having this problem since the first installation of MAGLDR; The "Orange LED" bug, as most of us know, prevents the phone from charging while the phone is off, and the LED remains orange even AFTER the phone is unplugged. I've found a few circumstances where this will occur:
1. Powering down the phone with USB plugged in causes this issue with most builds
2. Same as #1 but when doing a reboot
3. Phone dies, then plugging USB will bring about the "orange LED" bug
I've found a workaround for these as I'm sure MANY of you have already, but I wanted to post a thread just for people who haven't found an answer yet. The following list corresponds to the items above:
1. Unplug USB before selecting "Power off" on your device
2. " " " " "
3. Kinda tricky.. a) if phone is COMPLETELY dead, pull the battery, plug USB, THEN replace battery, and b) If phone has battery and is OFF, power on phone, wait until "GO! GO! GO!" screen disappears, and then plug in USB.
I think the problem comes about when finishing the installation of your ROM via MAGLDR, OR it could be a bug within MAGLDR itself. It could quite possibly be the kernels, as JDMS' UltimateDroid ROM did NOT cause the orange LED when a REBOOT was performed...
Well either way, I hope this helps some people avoid this problem and gives the dev's something to work on.. Not that their work goes unappreciated

Or do like me. Leave the phone on, put it in flightmode and charge it.
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htc-hd2 said:
Or do like me. Leave the phone on, put it in flightmode and charge it.
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yeah. that makes sense... Maybe you should make a new thread?

htc-hd2 said:
Or do like me. Leave the phone on, put it in flightmode and charge it.
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How would this help if phone is completely dead? Seriously, this could be useful. Can someone try this and confirm?
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dung8604 said:
How would this help if phone is completely dead? Seriously, this could be useful. Can someone try this and confirm?
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I'm afraid to answer here as the OP might get upset, or tell me to start my own new thread.
Anyway. As I like to help people I will answer your question.
I bought a new battery for my HD2, and it did not have enought power to power on the phone (running NAND).
Not sure if this fixed the charging problem, but I removed the battery for +/- 30 seconds, reinserted the "dead" battery, plugged in the charger.
After some time (seconds) the orange battery came on, and the battery was beeing charged.
I left the phone charging for some time (expecting the light to go green when done), but it never did (NANDproblem?)
So after 1/2 day of charging, I disconnected the charger, and guess what.. the oragne light was still on.
Again I removed the battery, reinserted it again, and powerd on the phone.
The battery was fully charged, and I'm now enjoying 2 to 3 days of phone use before needing to charge it again.
Now.. I'm not 100% sure about 1st connecting the charger, and reinsering the battery, or 1st reinsering the battery and than connecting it to the charger.

I'm having charging issues but in a different way.
when i plug the charger to the phone while the screen is off, the LED does not light until I i press the red button (actually any button) to wake up the screen.
Is anybody having a similar issue?

qaliza said:
I'm having charging issues but in a different way.
when i plug the charger to the phone while the screen is off, the LED does not light until I i press the red button (actually any button) to wake up the screen.
Is anybody having a similar issue?
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Excuse me for my english in advance.
I have the same problem like you, but for me is not a big problem.

rc_bandit_973 said:
Excuse me for my english in advance.
I have the same problem like you, but for me is not a big problem.
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This is not a problem for me too. The real problem is with whatsapp
when ever someone sends me a message on whatsapp while the screen is off, i dont receive it until i press the power button to unlock the screen. So i thought this might have anything to do with the charge issue.

I have no problem with this bug,he it is on the charger,so why turn it off is my question.....i just turn the sound off lol.

[Q] HD2 losing charge

Anyone else have the following problem?
While running Android I plugged in the usb cable and the orange LED came on indicating phone charging. However after a minute or so it will stop charging with the orange LED gone.
Weird thing is sometimes if I wait long enough (10-15 min) the charging will pick up again, however it only happens once in a while.
It may looks like the cable isn't packing enough juice, but it was working fine with SD build, problem only starts after I flashed magldr 1.3 and moved onto a NAND build (DesireZ).

Possibly try re-installing the same nand and see what happens..backup before handhand
Sent from a noobs hd2

I've updated to latest version of DesireZ NAND rom, right after booting into Android the led starting blinking green and amber, after some research it indicates either the phone overheat or the battery can't be charged.
I immediately swapped back my original HTC battery and problem gone. So I guess it was all because of a faulty replacement battery.

My phone sometimes does the same when I use a charger that is not giving the phone enough power
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I got the same prob here. With the origional battery and a replacement one. The only way i can get the battery to charge is to take it out and ust the docking station that i got as the phone will not even charge when docked.
My battery widget say that the battery is overheated but its cold.
Sort of re-installing it again does anyone know why.
Running [30.DEC.10][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM

[Q] Strange problem

As the title says I have a strange yet very annoying problem. I am running my HD2 with hyperdroid cm7 Nand build (from april 29th). The problem is that when my battery is deleted, as is the case now, and I put my hd2 in the charger it will automatically boot. I think this is due to a setting or something. However since booting drains energy faster than the hd2 charges, the phone will by turned of before it has completely booted. After a while it get's stuck in a pattern of starting to boot and turning of. I don't know why this is the case because I think my phone just used to boot fine before when connected to a charger.
So my questions are:
1. does anyone has a suggestion how to turn on the phone?
2. this automatic booting, can it be turned off?
3. Why is it actually happening?
Maybe it's a very stupid or obvious problem, but I hope someone can help me though.

Do you have installed MGLRD?, it's a Known fact, search in the forum for answer (I'm sorry, I'm with SD Builds and don't use MGLRD, so I can not help you anymore).

I had the same problem with some rom i used earlier. The only way i could solve the issue was to remove the battery and put it back, then I could insert the charger without the phone booting up. Charge it for a while and start it.
Hope this way works for u 2.
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I guess this is what I used to do as well. However now, if I remove the battery and put it back in it keeps automatically booting. Also if I put the charger in the phone and then remove the battery same thing happens. But thanks for the help though.

I am currently using the same ROM via MGLRD. Because of MGLRD, it will always turn on the phone from off when you plug your phone in. This is a known feature of MGLRD to preserve the battery. Checking just now, I turned my phone off, plugged in my charger and the phone automatically booted itself then the lockscreen came on then turned itself off after one minute. This is the cycle I see every time I charge my phone if it is off. I do not see it going into any boot cycle. What I see is after it goes through this, the orange LED light is on letting me know it is charging and will change to green when it is fully charged. Did you make sure before loading the ROM to do a complete wipe before installing? Usually most of the problems are associated due to not doing a complete wipe prior to loading a new ROM.

slbenz said:
I am currently using the same ROM via MGLRD. Because of MGLRD, it will always turn on the phone from off when you plug your phone in. This is a known feature of MGLRD to preserve the battery. Checking just now, I turned my phone off, plugged in my charger and the phone automatically booted itself then the lockscreen came on then turned itself off after one minute. This is the cycle I see every time I charge my phone if it is off. I do not see it going into any boot cycle. What I see is after it goes through this, the orange LED light is on letting me know it is charging and will change to green when it is fully charged. Did you make sure before loading the ROM to do a complete wipe before installing? Usually most of the problems are associated due to not doing a complete wipe prior to loading a new ROM.
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Well, this cycle I think is caused by the fact that the charger is not strong enough. Normally if plugged in the phone would just boot. The reason that it fails to boot is that is doesn't have enough power to complete the boot cycle even though the phone is plugged in (don't know if booting consumes a lot of power?).
A month ago I bought a new usb cable. Maybe that's where the problem lies? Because I have been using the hyperdroid rom for a while now. Although I don't know if one cable can be stronger than the other.
I have found a solution btw: Though it is a bit hit and miss cause it didn't work a few hours ago. When booting I let it go into mgldr and let it charge there. After a while I'll let it boot when it has enough power to complete the boot.

slbenz said:
Usually most of the problems are associated due to not doing a complete wipe prior to loading a new ROM.
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Humm, now you making me think lol, the 1st time I installed Android on my HTC HD2 was the NexusHd2 rom one and he had the same problem, no battery but once I plug it to the wall charger it would do the full(normal)boot, I thought was the rom so I changed to Hyperdroid Cm7, but, still does the same..
The wipe you talking is the one, wipe data/cache right?

if it happens to you a lot, I think it's time to invest in a third-party battery charger. you can charge it out of the phone for a bit, and then you're safe to put it back in a continue charging using the phone

Tried some different roms and all them do the same.. so I reckon its normal.. Thank You.

Problem with charging

Hi guys! I have a problem with charging my battery in HD2.
From some time it don't wont to charge when system is boted in. However, it is possible to charge it for a little bit in a bootloader (3 color screen). I tried tons of time making task29 or installing differend systems (android, wm and wp7) but the problem is the same on each of them. I tried also wiping HSPL with SD Card method (istalling stock system via sd card) but nothing helps.
I can't figure out what is wrong. I think that battery works because it can be charged in bootloader and charged off.
Please help.

m4cq said:
Hi guys! I have a problem with charging my battery in HD2.
From some time it don't wont to charge when system is boted in. However, it is possible to charge it for a little bit in a bootloader (3 color screen). I tried tons of time making task29 or installing differend systems (android, wm and wp7) but the problem is the same on each of them. I tried also wiping HSPL with SD Card method (istalling stock system via sd card) but nothing helps.
I can't figure out what is wrong. I think that battery works because it can be charged in bootloader and charged off.
Please help.
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Have you tried other chargers? That's always a simple fix. I have also read of this problem and it ends up being lint in the charging port so check that as well
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rawdaddymagraden said:
Have you tried other chargers? That's always a simple fix. I have also read of this problem and it ends up being lint in the charging port so check that as well
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It might also be battery that is faulty but 90% id say its motherboard :/

Hardware issues.

I also have the same problem. =.=

Worth checking battery pins for good contact & trying another battery & charger to eliminate the basic easy fix hardware issues.
Sounds like could be more serious but always best to test everything & assume nothing in a logical ease of testing/cost approach

Take the battery out and make sure when you place back in the pins are touching. It worked for me