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Enhanced GPS for Navigation

I've updated libgps to both report accuracy (constant 3.0m) and interpolated speed / bearing. As a result, Google Maps Navigation now gets beyond the point of "Waiting for GPS." It also rotates your perspective and scales the screen based on bearing and speed, respectively. You can find the new libgps here:
http://sweb.uky.edu/~srwalt2/libgps.so
A little Christmas present for the Vogue community, a day early!

Thanks a lot, @srwalter! For the people that use a formatted SD card (2 x ext2), will it work if we replace the current libgps.so under \lib\ with the new one? (using Polaris).

srwalter said:
I've updated libgps to both report accuracy (constant 3.0m) and interpolated speed / bearing. As a result, Google Maps Navigation now gets beyond the point of "Waiting for GPS." It also rotates your perspective and scales the screen based on bearing and speed, respectively. You can find the new libgps here:
http://sweb.uky.edu/~srwalt2/libgps.so
A little Christmas present for the Vogue community, a day early!
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fcking awesome you forgot YOUR DONATION LINK!
Happy Holidays and thanks

@SuperJMN:
You need to remount your system directory from terminal or adb shell before you replace the file:
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
You rock srwalter, a very merry holiday to you good sir!
EDIT: Since Android browser doesn't let you download .so files directly, I found a tiny program called Download Crutch that lets Android browser download just about anything. Unfortunately, it's no longer in the market, so I uploaded it to my server: Download Crutch Lite 2008-01-31.apk

jamezelle said:
fcking awesome you forgot YOUR DONATION LINK!
Happy Holidays and thanks
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Well, we can fix that: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...e=Vogue Android Development&currency_code=USD

srwalter said:
Well, we can fix that: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...e=Vogue Android Development&currency_code=USD
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$5 Merry Christmas

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Merry Christmas man! Thanks so much!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ygmnmzjnxnm/rootfs.img
Here is the rootfs from 12-15 with the new libgps.so in it.

Dammit, I just wrote this code last weekend
Nice work srwalter, thanks a million!

jamezelle said:
fcking awesome you forgot YOUR DONATION LINK!
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Could anyone put this in a "new" rootfs for us newbies?
Thanks...

patreeves said:
Could anyone put this in a "new" rootfs for us newbies?
Thanks...
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umm yea post 8 already been posted

I just tried the rootfs attached above. Interestingly enough I am currently roaming in another country with data roam guard enabled and it doesn't seem to know. It's using data while roaming.
Was there anything else tweaked in that rootfs?

jamezelle said:
umm yea post 8 already been posted
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Sorry jamezelle.... I read this below the link and thought it was invalid.
"Last edited by hellovx7600; Today at 05:40 AM.. Reason: Wrong link...Sorry! "
Me bad....

Put the new rootfs on my SD card, create a blank file "rootfstonand" and reboot and it will work? or need to start from scratch?

berardi said:
Put the new rootfs on my SD card, create a blank file "rootfstonand" and reboot and it will work? or need to start from scratch?
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that will do it

Awesome thanks ! I owe everyone some paypal dollars when I get back home from visiting folks for Christmas. This android stuff is stretching my $30 sero much farther so I owe you guys!

The only thing changed in the rootfs.img is the new gps file. I didn't change anything else.
I removed the edit so no one gets confused. The link is the correct one. It was fixed last night.

Freakin' awesome. Thanks. Took about 45 seconds for the first lock and now it locks in about 5 seconds. My GPS has always failed after the first use for some reason no matter what build I use. So far I've used it about 10 times. No Problems and super fast

hellovx7600 said:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ygmnmzjnxnm/rootfs.img
Here is the rootfs from 12-15 with the new libgps.so in it.
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Download link is broken! Can we get a re-mirror?

Ok so I am trying out the new root with navigation and it doesn't seem to work. For a second it seems fine and then it seems to lose track of which direction we are going.Is this happening to anyone else ?
EDIT
Got it: do not enable compass direction in labs
Still gets messed up but its better

Augen android tablet

I got mine today and can't install applications for the market?? Also how do I calibrate the screen so it is more sensitive??? Anybody doing and development on the tablet?? Also is there going to be a thread for this???
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interesting. im not the only one not able to install from the market. beware of the card slot. almost impossible getting the thing out as it will hang on the case on the screen side.

looks like they will have a patch to finx some of the issues.
http://augenus.com/indexhome.html/News.html

pen25 said:
looks like they will have a patch to finx some of the issues.
http://augenus.com/indexhome.html/News.html
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Well I might take it back just because there is no support on this device at all. It is preety cool though
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Oh i've got a couple questions even though it's not getting a good review i'm probably still gonna get one. Can you get into usb debugging? Did you apply the patches? how did that affect the tablet? Can you download a terminal app? if so can "su" Whats the recovery look loke

tmotech88 said:
Well I might take it back just because there is no support on this device at all. It is preety cool though
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Well that seems a little silly after reading this post.
Dear Augen Customers (GEN Nation),
Thank you for showing your support and interest in our GENTOUCH78 Tablet. We became aware of the technical difficulties over the past 24 hours, and we will be posting an update for a patch to the software at the following link: http://augen.helpserve.com/ under latest download files within the next 48 hours.
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48 hour fix time? You only get that kind of a support from a custom rom dev.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
48 hour fix time? You only get that kind of a support from a custom rom dev.
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Hopefully someone gets one with some dev skills or just is able to make a custom recovery. Once that happens it's on. I'm wondering if adw launcher can be installed on this thing

I also got one, there's a patch coming tomorrow for the market problem. I can't install apps with APK's in gmail either without a katcher.
It's a sweet device so far. it's resistive touch, I don't think you can turn up sensitivity but we'll see.
ES File Manager comes Pre Loaded.. you can add any app APK to the SD card. and use ES File Manager to install
Installing Quadrant, and some games right now.. I'll post back

I picked this up and I am going to be creating a dev thread on this. I am not an expert on this by any means but I did get it rooted, got Titanium Backup on it (had to install Download Crutch from my SD card than downloaded TB from an APK I found online), and got ADW on it. Runs OK, I don't like the resistive screen and I agree with others that this is a really rigged build on this device. Market issue for me too, can't wait for the update.
EDIT: Dev thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7409528#post7409528

How did you root? I'd love any info you can give. where's your thread
Edit: Quadrant got just below the Moto droid according to there results. it was around 300 or so if i remember right. it was just below the Droid. It got good and smooth FPS during the 3D tests. It has the Mali-200 GPU inside with a texture unit rate of 8 units.
Linpack it scored a 3.962 or something but then i closed it. It's charging right now.. Does anyone know why it says I have Edge service and Roaming? as well as Telelco Loco for the service where my phone says T-Mobile. hjaha

{WIP}Ubuntu-and many more distros to come-on our Eris! 5-7

So this is a work in progress, as we speak I am one step from being able to launch Ubuntu on the phone.
Ive been thinking about this for a while, ever since I saw the thread on the INC forums on AF.
This requires a custom kernel, as of now I havent overclocked it or even compiled a wlan.ko for it-meaning that theres no wifi and this kernel is only for stock roms.. Right now this isnt meant at all as a daily thing, but if it turns out nice, I may end up fully adopting it as my new project, and who knows what will happen then
I am not opposed to getting help from anyone with this project-thats the whole point of Android being OpenSource right?-but please keep me in the loop if you take this off on a tangent.
Ive taken a lot of different information, a lot of different files, and a lot of general help from people
First off i want to thank The Edge| over on #droideris despite him knowing that Andrizoid was on their IRC-Oh the horror!-he continued helping me out, linking me to helpful things and being helping with a few other things
I dont recall his XDA name, but if your around, make yourself known. You deserve a pat on the back for giving me a chance when the others didnt.
Second goes to Koush for putting together this any-kernel-updater which i will be posting separately because it is a freaking awesome tool, heres a quick breakdown of how it works
First off, this is a flashable tool, you add the kernel (zImage) to the kernel folder, zip it all up, sign and flash.
Code:
It copies your bootimage to a temp file so it has a space to work in
It then unpack the boot.img
Replaces the zImage you included ith the original one
Repacks the boot.img
Flashes the new boot.img with your kernel in it.
IDK how nobody noticed this thing before, its amazing. no more fastboot BS, and no more having to custom pack the kernels for your ramdisk.
Third i need to thank pez252 for his post on AF that gave me the idea and the basics to work off of. That includes the script and the ubuntu.img
Also want to thank Saurik for his VERY in-depth tutorial, helped me solve a few of the issues i was coming across.
TO DO
1. get a working kernel
2. mount the ubuntu.img in data/local
3. mount /dev, /proc, and /sys in their respective directories
4. chroot it all so it actually works.
5. overclock it <--easily done after it gets running
6. get wifi up and going <--also easily done after it gets running
7. get this going on an AOSP rom <--simple to do, will do it after it gets running
Downloads and the actual commands to do this in the next post-wanted to make sure you read before jumping right into it

First comes the kernel. Remember that this is VERY basic, no wifi and no overclocking and it only works on stock roms. Ill add the bells and whistles after we get it moving.
Flash the loopkern.zip from recovery.
Download this zip file. Once its downloaded, extract the ubuntu.img-its the ONLY part that we need at the moment.
Once extracted, put it on your SDcard in a folder called ubuntu.
Then comes the fun part, for some reason i along with quite a few others, werent able to get the commands to run as a script-weird huh?-but here they are, you can copy/paste them directly into the command line, but you obviously need your phone plugged in.
Code:
#Sets up the directories.
mkdir /data/local/ubuntu
busybox mknod /dev/loop0 b 7 0
#Does the actual mounting, after this command, you can actually see all the ubuntu files #under /data/local/ubuntu
busybox mount -o rw,loop -t ext2 /sdcard/ubuntu/ubuntu.img /data/local/ubuntu
busybox mount --bind /dev/pts /data/local/ubuntu/dev/pts
busybox mount --bind /proc /data/local/ubuntu/proc
busybox mount --bind /sys /data/local/ubuntu/sys
sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
After fooling around with it a bit, i was able to get everything set-up with those commands, after that though, i run into some issues. Now we will need to
Code:
busybox chroot /data/local/ubuntu /bin/bash
This is the big issue though, maybe im not familiar enough with chroot to get the syntax right-ive never used it before-or something else is amiss.
So! The point is, that only measly chroot is holding us back from installing a REAL Linux OS on our phones, complete with EVERYTHING. Theoretically we could run linux apps and all kinds of cool stuff.

this looks pretty bada**. im up for any learning curve so if theres anything i could possibly help you with let me know

well as of now, i have just about everything worked out. that kernel is enabled for loopback, and i worked the kinks out of the commands, only thing left is that damn chroot command. once thats worked out its all smooth sailing.
i need a nap. its 5 30 and i havent slept from last night yet
ill check back on it later, and ill get to work on it a bit more.
feel free to try anything you want! post your results-failures or sucesses-so we know what doesnt work so we arent wasting our time.

So I find this exciting even though I do not truly understand the implications of this working. This would provide us with access to our regular apps too or just Ubuntu? Either way, I'm down to try it out. If there is anyway I can help, I wouldn't mind. I used to run Linux for a little while, but never really dealt alot with programming type stuff. However, my phone is always in a state of disarray between flashing various roms and trying to customize it so I wouldn't mind trying to do some of this too. Would it be best to have Linux at home too with this? I could install Linux Mint 9 and dual boot...

Linux on a phone?!?
Don't let me discourage you but really, why?
The eris runs @528 mhz and a very low resolution, I am guessing any distro of linux on the eris would have crazy lag, it would be hard to see, not to mention hard to type and lack of drivers and things not working, etc...
I suppose this would be interesting try maybe in like a year or two when android phones are coming out with higher clock speeds, dual cores and larger screens, but in my opinion its just not worth putting in the time it would take to make linux useable on a phone.

homewmt said:
Don't let me discourage you but really, why?
The eris runs @528 mhz and a very low resolution, I am guessing any distro of linux on the eris would have crazy lag, it would be hard to see, not to mention hard to type and lack of drivers and things not working, etc...
I suppose this would be interesting try maybe in like a year or two when android phones are coming out with higher clock speeds, dual cores and larger screens, but in my opinion its just not worth putting in the time it would take to make linux useable on a phone.
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i dont think that i will be personally using it either, but the eris is on EOL, we arent getting any more cool stuff. its up to us now to keep it going, and when i see a phone with a cool new feature i think 'HEY! We could do that too!'
EDIT:my roommate mentioned to make sure the permissions on the /data/local/ubuntu/usr/bin/bash were set right. I dont have time to try it right now, but itd be easy,
Code:
adb shell chmod a+x /data/local/ubuntu/usr/bin/bash
Then try running
Code:
adb shell chroot /data/local/ubuntu /data/local/ubuntu/usr/bin/bash

Why not a way lighter distro ie dsl or something
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m4nfred said:
Why not a way lighter distro ie dsl or something
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because I use ubuntu myself, so it was naturally the first one i jumped at. once this one is running i can compile an .img for debian or w/e other distro. this is just for proof of concept.

ban_dover said:
because I use ubuntu myself, so it was naturally the first one i jumped at. once this one is running i can compile an .img for debian or w/e other distro. this is just for proof of concept.
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o ok, sounds cool

I had Debian running prior but had to ditch it due to froyo. I followed a guide for HTC Hero. But I'm glad that we are going to have an official Ubuntu on ERIS. Keep up the good work.
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For the guy asking why, why not figure out how to do it now, then when the phones get better....it is already done. Great idea guys, I hope it works.

Novel idea but it is quite pointless on mobile phones. Now Linux on other embedded devices is cool.

sword- said:
Novel idea but it is quite pointless on mobile phones. Now Linux on other embedded devices is cool.
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Don't think there will be anymore progress made here, since he's gone again (still don't know why besides drama). So I guess someone else can pick up the torch?

He's gone again? Time to gtalk him.
Everybody needs to remember.
D is for Developers, Not Drama.
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If I can work closely with him on this project, then progress can be made. Helping is what this forum is made up of.

Linux on phone
It's a good thing Google didn't think Linux was a bad idea on a phone. The Adroids already running a Linux distribution. So why not Unbuntu as well. Makes sense to me.
Some people might think Everest is just a big rock, others see the adventure in exploring it.

Why the hell is everyone flaming this guy? All he does is put out awesome roms and try thngs outside the box. I would try an ubuntu rom if he gets it working. What if it's slow? Not fully functional? Who cares. So far 90% of the roms I've tried are not fully functional. I wish I could help work on this but I know very little about Linux and Ubuntu, but please keep up the development.
On a different note, since you think so far outside the box...My buddy has an HD2 running Android and Windows. From what he explained to me, he boots and runs Android completely from his sd card. Is it possible to do something like this on the Eris? Either to increase speed and performance on Android (sd card is the internal memory) or move to other platforms such as Windows and Ubuntu. Again, I have little understanding of how this actually works but if you want to PM me I can get with him and see what we can come up.
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lol
Yeah w/ ubuntu you could easily trim it down to under 200MB with a super fast UI its only a mater of compiling all the parts for a new device, this is a killer idea, just think about having a fully running Ubuntu system in your pocket, keep a few SD cards on hand or get a 16 or 32GB and you would have all the space you would need.
I have seen Android ported to the Eee and others, why not ubuntu or another distro to the phone base that Android rules?

so is anyone else trying to see this through?

joshw0000 said:
Why the hell is everyone flaming this guy? All he does is put out awesome roms and try thngs outside the box. I would try an ubuntu rom if he gets it working. What if it's slow? Not fully functional? Who cares. So far 90% of the roms I've tried are not fully functional. I wish I could help work on this but I know very little about Linux and Ubuntu, but please keep up the development.
On a different note, since you think so far outside the box...My buddy has an HD2 running Android and Windows. From what he explained to me, he boots and runs Android completely from his sd card. Is it possible to do something like this on the Eris? Either to increase speed and performance on Android (sd card is the internal memory) or move to other platforms such as Windows and Ubuntu. Again, I have little understanding of how this actually works but if you want to PM me I can get with him and see what we can come up.
I would also love to know if the Eris could run android and WindowsOS.
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Glacier internal storage question

I'm coming from the G1. You could run "cat /proc/mtd" to get the layout of the internal storage device.
It looks to me like the glacier is using /dev/block/mmcblk0 for internal, and mmcblk1 for the sdcard.
'fdisk -l' shows 60 partitions on mmcblk0... Is that even correct? Can someone give me the quick explanation of the how the Glacier is handling its internal storage device?
Thanks
(and I did try search first)

Ohsaka said:
I'm coming from the G1. You could run "cat /proc/mtd" to get the layout of the internal storage device.
It looks to me like the glacier is using /dev/block/mmcblk0 for internal, and mmcblk1 for the sdcard.
'fdisk -l' shows 60 partitions on mmcblk0... Is that even correct? Can someone give me the quick explanation of the how the Glacier is handling its internal storage device?
Thanks
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You are correct mmcblk0 is internal and mmcblk1 is the sd. I discovered this when creating an ext partition, it seems that a2sd scripts rarely support it by default (a la g2). Also, clockwork doesnt seem to properly support sdext dalvik clearing, which is specifically a complication for regular ROM flashers.
I'm not sure about the exact number of partitions on the RAM/Internal storage blk.
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do i see a super wipe being built>?

I sure hope so! Used it regularly on my g1
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Looking into it...
It appears to be a complete rewrite at this point if I want it to actually be writing zeros to the disk at a low level. The statically linked 'erase_image' executable uses the /proc/mtd file to get the partition boundaries and that file is now blank.
I could probably toss together a script that will run "rm -rf" on all the mounts, but I assume anyone with 10 spare minutes can do that...
I will just need to do some more research into how the Glacier is setup. Unfortunately (for you guys) my baby is able to crawl now, so when I'm home I spend alot of free time chasing her around and keeping her out of the cats' drinking fountain.

Ohsaka said:
Looking into it...
It appears to be a complete rewrite at this point if I want it to actually be writing zeros to the disk at a low level. The statically linked 'erase_image' executable uses the /proc/mtd file to get the partition boundaries and that file is now blank.
I could probably toss together a script that will run "rm -rf" on all the mounts, but I assume anyone with 10 spare minutes can do that...
I will just need to do some more research into how the Glacier is setup. Unfortunately (for you guys) my baby is able to crawl now, so when I'm home I spend alot of free time chasing her around and keeping her out of the cats' drinking fountain.
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Very cute kid. She yours?
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Yea, i used it on my G1 pretty much daily with all the flashing that was going on at its prime. Great tool. Good luck man, looking forward to it.

OuncE718 said:
Very cute kid. She yours?
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She better be! I didn't pay all that money to have her genetically engineered in a lab for her to end up being someone else's kid....

Ohsaka said:
She better be! I didn't pay all that money to have her genetically engineered in a lab for her to end up being someone else's kid....
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lol, sorry, i tamper with all the samples and mix em up and it is now a coctail of samples the we implanted... you lucked out and got the same race!!!

michaelmcelveen913 said:
lol, sorry, i tamper with all the samples and mix em up and it is now a coctail of samples the we implanted... you lucked out and got the same race!!!
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You mean shes gonna stay that color?!?!??!

ROM development, based on Eclair/Froyo anyone?

Hey
I've recently got my NST and, after TouchNootering it, I reverted it back to stock and manually rooted & installed stuff on it. I managed to install latest busybox too (1.19.1), even better than what TouchNooter installs.
Anyways, I've been wondering if anybody here is up to the challenge of making a ROM for this device. Modifying the actual ROM is nice... but it's buggy and it feels sloppy at times, not to mention it semi-works. Some features do, some don't.
I think, that if we make it possible to run a basic Eclair ROM, we can move to Froyo and maybe then, with enough experience and all, get GB or ICS installed on it. I think it's -very- possible... it just needs to be put some work on
Anyone?

Two issues: Drivers and memory. Unless drivers are available for the version of Android you want to build, you're going to have a tough time. Unless B&N releases a newer version of Android for the NST, this is probably unlikely. I suspect we're stuck on 2.1 eclair.
The NST only has 256M of memory, so a lot of what works on other devices is going to have to trimmed down.
This isn't to say that it can't be done, but by the time you're done, it may not be so much better than what we've got. Anything is possible, of course, but I'm not aware of anything along the lines of CyanogenMod in the works for the NST. I'd be happy to be wrong.
In the meantime, there's no reason improved software can't be written to run on what we've got. At least rooting makes that possible.

bobstro said:
Two issues: Drivers and memory. Unless drivers are available for the version of Android you want to build, you're going to have a tough time. Unless B&N releases a newer version of Android for the NST, this is probably unlikely. I suspect we're stuck on 2.1 eclair.
The NST only has 256M of memory, so a lot of what works on other devices is going to have to trimmed down.
This isn't to say that it can't be done, but by the time you're done, it may not be so much better than what we've got. Anything is possible, of course, but I'm not aware of anything along the lines of CyanogenMod in the works for the NST. I'd be happy to be wrong.
In the meantime, there's no reason improved software can't be written to run on what we've got. At least rooting makes that possible.
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Hey
Well, yes, there's the issue with drivers. Thing is, and I might be wrong at this, that a driver can be kept in newer versions and still be used. For example, in HTC Magic, the video driver hasn't been updated in *ages*, and the little device can even run ICS now. Froyo, Donut & Gingerbread both use almost the same driver versions and it hasn't had any issues so far. I'm using my own experience as base on this though.
About the memory, again experience, HTC Magic has like 512 Mb ROM and 256 Mb RAM. The NST has 256 MB RAM and 2GB ROM. I find it very possible.
Thing is, I'm not very satisfied with "what we've got". See, I bought it planning to use it as a tablet instead, since... I rarely read, lol. So far so good, I can VNC/TeamView to computers at work and my computer at home, take notes and even browse the web (well, kiiiinda...), but it's buggy as hell. I mean, the rooters we have are pretty good at what they do, but the OS itself, the way B&N built it, it's broken.
See, LatinIME doesn't work correctly or is almost impossible to use with Dolphin (or any other browser) because they also broke WebCore =/. Not to mention the colors are a bit off since it's all B&W and some texts are in the same color as the background (thanks to their Framework.res theme) so...
Taking that into account, I wanted to give a go at a ROM instead, since there isn't any ROM for this device yet, and considering we have CWM working, I find it very possible to compile a ROM and use it, or hell, at least have a pure Android OS booting.
I've made some research here:
http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP
http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Android_Getting_Started#Video_Tutorials
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19f7Z1rxJHa5grNlNFSkh7hQ0LmDOuPdKMQUg8HFiyzs/edit?hl=en_US
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Compile_CyanogenMod_(Linux)
And I think it's very possible to build a ROM, using the first two links + the tutorial at google docs. Also, it seems that some procedures, tools or code made for the Nook Color are also able to be used for the NST, since they share almost the same exact hardware.
However, I'm confused on how to start. This is my first time building an Android ROM after some few failed attempts at an HTC Magic ROM, though the instructions seem to be waaaay easier than HTC's. Right now I'm downloading Ubuntu Server 11.10 x64 so I can set up a simple OpenBox environment and start pulling code... but it's confusing
I'm up for the challenge, and I'm trying to work on it, but I'm no genius and I feel that if there's more than one person working on this, we can take a ROM out which would be better than the stock ROM and would have better and cooler stuff, like USB Host Mode already included or the refresh rate fixed/faster. Hell, I even restored it to factory defaults and then rooted it manually and installed BusyBox 1.19.1 in it, something which isn't mentioned in any tutorial that I've found yet.

darkguy2008 said:
Hey
Well, yes, there's the issue with drivers. Thing is, and I might be wrong at this, that a driver can be kept in newer versions and still be used. For example, in HTC Magic, the video driver hasn't been updated in *ages*, and the little device can even run ICS now. Froyo, Donut & Gingerbread both use almost the same driver versions and it hasn't had any issues so far. I'm using my own experience as base on this though.
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The issue with drivers isn't so much it being old, it's getting a driver for the E-Ink screen. It's like video cards; you can put any driver you want on any computer, but unless it's the right one, you'll be stuck at 640x480 (or in the case of Android, no display).
darkguy2008 said:
About the memory, again experience, HTC Magic has like 512 Mb ROM and 256 Mb RAM. The NST has 256 MB RAM and 2GB ROM. I find it very possible.
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It's not ROM, it's flash storage or whatever the correct term. ROM (read-only-memory) cannot be written to, and the flash storage is just storage space.
darkguy2008 said:
See, LatinIME doesn't work correctly or is almost impossible to use with Dolphin (or any other browser) because they also broke WebCore =/. Not to mention the colors are a bit off since it's all B&W and some texts are in the same color as the background (thanks to their Framework.res theme) so...
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WebKit could probably be fixed eventually, and fixing the framework-res.apk shouldn't be too difficult, just unpack the thing with apktool and grab notepad++ or something.
darkguy2008 said:
Taking that into account, I wanted to give a go at a ROM instead, since there isn't any ROM for this device yet, and considering we have CWM working, I find it very possible to compile a ROM and use it, or hell, at least have a pure Android OS booting.
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If we had CWM working, would this thread exist? Yes, it's working on the Nook Color, but getting it to work on the NST would require removing so many things and so much more, and even when it does happen it'd probably be a hollow shell of what it normally is.
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I'm up for the challenge, and I'm trying to work on it, but I'm no genius and I feel that if there's more than one person working on this, we can take a ROM out which would be better than the stock ROM and would have better and cooler stuff, like USB Host Mode already included or the refresh rate fixed/faster. Hell, I even restored it to factory defaults and then rooted it manually and installed BusyBox 1.19.1 in it, something which isn't mentioned in any tutorial that I've found yet.
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I didn't mean to put you down by all this or flame you, so hey, good luck!

Googie2149 said:
The issue with drivers isn't so much it being old, it's getting a driver for the E-Ink screen. It's like video cards; you can put any driver you want on any computer, but unless it's the right one, you'll be stuck at 640x480 (or in the case of Android, no display).
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Hmm, you're right. I have the idea of using Eclair's drivers included in the B&N update files (1.1.2), I dunno how to use them but if the .so file exists, there must be a way to invoke their methods, no? It's just a theory, I kinda suck at this thing of kernel drivers 'n stuff.
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It's not ROM, it's flash storage or whatever the correct term. ROM (read-only-memory) cannot be written to, and the flash storage is just storage space.
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Oh okay, then I can't seem to find any official specs of how much RAM does the NST have =/. Pretty weird.
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WebKit could probably be fixed eventually, and fixing the framework-res.apk shouldn't be too difficult, just unpack the thing with apktool and grab notepad++ or something.
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Yeah, I have an idea of trying to fix that APK, but I wanted something more... Android-ish xD.
Googie2149 said:
f we had CWM working, would this thread exist? Yes, it's working on the Nook Color, but getting it to work on the NST would require removing so many things and so much more, and even when it does happen it'd probably be a hollow shell of what it normally is.
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Actually, we -have- CWM working in the NST, just look here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994 . If a recovery was made possible in NST, which means some ROM (or whatever) compiling to display and use the hardware buttons, I'm very sure it is possible to build an Android ROM the same way o.o...
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I didn't mean to put you down by all this or flame you, so hey, good luck!
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Hehe, it's okay, didn't take it as that, so, thanks
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On another news, I followed this tutorial: http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Android_Getting_Started up to the "repo sync" stage. It says it should take an hour and all, but it doesn't. It takes like 5 seconds, no output, nada. I don't know what could be wrong
Any help?

darkguy2008 said:
I can't seem to find any official specs of how much RAM does the NST have =/.
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> adb shell
$ busybox free -m
Learn to love the command line.

darkguy2008 said:
Actually, we -have- CWM working in the NST, just look here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994 . If a recovery was made possible in NST, which means some ROM (or whatever) compiling to display and use the hardware buttons, I'm very sure it is possible to build an Android ROM the same way o.o...
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Derp, I thought you were talking about Cyanogenmod for some reason.

notriddle said:
> adb shell
$ busybox free -m
Learn to love the command line.
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Hey, I love the command line I -have- to ... Anyways, didn't thought of that first, so thanks
According to this:
Code:
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 227 212 14 0 8
-/+ buffers: 204 23
Swap: 0 0 0
The device only has 256 Mb RAM? I find it enough up to ICS. My previous HTC Magic could run ICS quite happily even without hardware acceleration, Froyo ran as fast as the stock 1.5 ROM and Gingerbread ran pretty okay. I didn't have the chance to work on optimizing it because my Magic got stolen, but I bet it could've been made to work as fast as the stock ROM if correctly optimized. Taking that into account, I'm sure this device can withstand a greater android version .
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Derp, I thought you were talking about Cyanogenmod for some reason.
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Lol, nah XD. It it would be cool if it worked but nah, those guys prefer the most powerful devices :/ sucks though.

Okay, according to this wiki: http://wiki.samat.org/Nook ... NST's source code is here (for 1.1):
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nook2_1-1.tgz
Anybody have an idea on how to compile it though? it doesn't seem complete to me.

Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290524

mdall said:
Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290524
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That doesn't make any sense, that's for compiling a Kernel... this source code is for a whole ROM (it seems)... it has the kernel, u-boot, x-loader and some android source.
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Actually... it makes sense now (after reading the whole thread, of course)... I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the link

I think radical changes of the Android version is too much to expect.
There's not a lot of ram on the Nook.
However, I just read that one of the big differences between 2.1 and 2.2
is that big changes were made to the Dalvik VM which sped it up 2X to 5X.
I think that that would be a worthy goal.

Renate NST said:
There's not a lot of ram on the Nook.
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We won't know if nobody tries. Besides, GB has been ported to phones with less. (HTC Magic, as he already mentioned)
However, I just read that one of the big differences between 2.1 and 2.2
is that big changes were made to the Dalvik VM which sped it up 2X to 5X.
I think that that would be a worthy goal.
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That would be awesome for stock users, but what about those apps that break under the hackish stock ROM? (ColorNote Sync, for example) Or things like NoRefresh that could take advantage of the underlying system's knowledge.

I think working around CM sources, like someone already has posted about trying, is a good idea.
CM9 might be a bit much, but CM7 is well in the device's range.
After all, it runs a CPU like my Motorola Defy, which runs CM9 without hassle (now with HWUI). It has 512MB ram though.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684782

imachine said:
I think working around CM sources, like someone already has posted about trying, is a good idea.
CM9 might be a bit much, but CM7 is well in the device's range.
After all, it runs a CPU like my Motorola Defy, which runs CM9 without hassle (now with HWUI). It has 512MB ram though.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684782
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This thread is over a month old, and the thread specifically about CM7 is about 3 days old. But either way, I think that the NST can handle CM. The screen refresh may make it seem slow, but it actually is a little powerful (but seeing as it was my first Android device, and my only other one is a Nook Color, it might actually be as terrible as others say).