is there a change we would have root soon as the Arc wil be released ?
otherwise i have to go for the SGS2
We won't know til we try it! Shouldn't think it would take long though..
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That all depends on how locked down the Arc has been. The X10 still hasn't had the bootloader fully cracked yet.
locked bootloader?
will the arc have a locked bootloader?
i mo more will buy a device with a locked bootloader.
Yes, the Arc, Neo, Pro and Play come with a locked bootloader. Can't see why SE would unlock it.
thats silly though... In that case, a lot of android/root lovers wouldnt buy the phone simply because the bootloader is locked.
For instance, I do not even consider the atrix a choice for a future phone because of the locked bootloader, I wish they let you do what you wanted with your phone, because they can always say **** you if you violate the warranty
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thats silly though... In that case, a lot of android/root lovers wouldnt buy the phone simply because the bootloader is locked.
For instance, I do not even consider the atrix a choice for a future phone because of the locked bootloader, I wish they let you do what you wanted with your phone, because they can always say **** you if you violate the warranty
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Many are going with the locked bootloader now, even Samsung ( though developers managed to unlock in a short time )
Plus, you'll be amazed by the speed of 2.3 OS and its functionality, so I don't think we'll need Custom ROMs and rooting ( keep in mind that most users here seek those because of the stock OS being unreliable and very slow ) talking about all devices prior to 2.3 OS
+1 that was the main reason i rooted in the end... Still on stock rom on my x10 but had optimised for performance. Won't both doing that if the arc runs well.. I like the ui a well as the physical design.. That's why I choose SE over htc/ others.
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im_iceman said:
I like the ui a well as the physical design.. That's why I choose SE over htc/ others.
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That is for sure a fact for me as well and as you mentioned only reason to go with SE. (Sony in General).
Rooting will let you do more tweaks as much as possible and unless you are into playing with your phone deep, you don't need it. Hopefully SE will do a better job in terms of support than what they did with X10 and X2 and X1.
I want root solely for Titanium Backup and Autostarts
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I want root solely for Titanium Backup and Autostarts
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But what I'm guessing is that you don't really need titanium backup if you aren't flashing roms...
One thing I really really want root for is wireless tethering
Straightflush said:
But what I'm guessing is that you don't really need titanium backup if you aren't flashing roms...
One thing I really really want root for is wireless tethering
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True, but I like using it to backup unwanted preloaded system apps etc. before removing/freezing them Already have a paid license from when I was screwing around with the ROM on my IS01, and it's a little easier than digging around in the folders for the right apks.
And yeah, wireless tethering is a big one. No idea how I forgot about it.
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And yeah, wireless tethering is a big one. No idea how I forgot about it.
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In 2.3.3 wireless and USB tethering is standard, no root is need but of course root is very useful in other situations.
arek1 said:
In 2.3.3 wireless and USB tethering is standard, no root is need but of course root is very useful in other situations.
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It's not so much whether the Android version will support it, but more whether your particular carrier wants to support or allow it
Let's hope unbranded/unlocked devices have tethering then!
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Let's hope unbranded/unlocked devices have tethering then!
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I can't see reason why unbranded/unlocked phone will haven't tethering.
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I can't see reason why unbranded/unlocked phone will haven't tethering.
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Well, here in Belgium we have completely unbranded and completely unlocked Androids, but because of a conflict of Youtube with SABAM (the Belgian music rights thing), Youtube access is blocked (no Youtube app) on all Belgian handsets. Weird things happen, you never know!
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Well, here in Belgium we have completely unbranded and completely unlocked Androids, but because of a conflict of Youtube with SABAM (the Belgian music rights thing), Youtube access is blocked (no Youtube app) on all Belgian handsets. Weird things happen, you never know!
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I agree it is possible some carrier will block some function in phones but I hope in unbranded phones it will not be
Can you in Belgium just download Youtube application from market?
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I agree it is possible some carrier will block some function in phones but I hope in unbranded phones it will not be
Can you in Belgium just download Youtube application from market?
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As far as I know, Sony Ericsson is the only vendor that has firmware specific for Belgium. On the X10 for example you can only get Youtube if you manually install the APK from somewhere else. (X10 = 2.1, so no Youtube from the market anyway)
At the press event the people from Sony Ericsson said you can just install Youtube from the market on 2.3 (I think). In any case, I just ordered the Dutch version, it comes with completely generic firmware, and faster updates. Belgium was always a few weeks behind.
Think this has gone a bit off topic, but in general the arc should be an easy one to root, since it can be purchased with an unlocked bootloader ect.
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I never used a root phone so i have absolutely no idea what it does.
There is no one single explanation as well beside some parts here and there.
Anyone care to list the advantage and disadvantage that x10 can access from root at current stage? (my main concern is just get froyo or flash enable)
I also want to know what can we do now. My wish is to have this latest ROM from SE but I want to remove from these apps:
E-mail
Voice Caller
Google Talk
User manual
Moxier x 5 ( I want to remove all of them )
Quadrapop
SIM Toolkit
Wisepilot
And that is it. Can we go back to non rooted phone and original firmware in case we need it for warranty reasons and how ?
Cheers
Would also like to know if there are specific apps for rooted phones? And what the app would do?
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Would also like to know if there are specific apps for rooted phones? And what the app would do?
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With a rooted phone, you can get apps that can change startup items, take screen shots of your phone amongst various other things.
-Twiztid
Can we also modify call volume
What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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It doesn't support it yet. Relax, it's been rooted for a few hours.
here，how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907
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What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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Without root we are at the mercy of SE. If SE don't want the device to support Froyo we will never have Froyo.
With root it is in our own hands or more precisely the hands of The developerson here. Hopefully they will get the stock Froyo release and load it onto an x10 and get the drivers to ensure all works.
Unfortunately we have to wait until this has been achieved. Half of the battle has been won though.
I'd rather wait for updates from the devs on here than SE's devs! I mean root was promised and has now been achieved, but I'm still waiting on SE's updates, especially the one designed to improve performance and bug fixes.
To change startup items, install Startup Auditor from the market - it can do this for you without root.
Root should allow for better backup though, and for custom ROMs. Those are the biggest end- user advantages which I can see in an instant.
-- Tim
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I just rooted my phone because I wanted to use the Market Access fix. Did that and now I got all Market apps, but now what do I do with the root? Can someone tell me some cool stuff I can do with the root of my Xperia X10?
get rid of your carrier apps xD
Lol yeah that was the first thing I did.
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Lol yeah that was the first thing I did.
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ok ran out of ideas XD
change the fonts to something cooler
Rootexplorer is simple and clean.
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Root is useless, what you need is bootloader hack to enable custom roms to be install onto x10 like Android 2.1 or 2.2.
But bootloader will never happen because no one can crack it. The way it going I say never. These devs guys are not good enough and I dont think they're knows what they are doing ... just try errors.
Live with your x10 or get a real device like HTC or Apple iphone4 I say.
Just so everyone know I am a collector and I got em all (hTc, apple iphone, samsung, nokia etc) but x10i is not the best IMO.
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But bootloader will never happen because no one can crack it. The way it going I say never. These devs guys are not good enough and I dont think they're knowing what they are doing ... just try errors..
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Well considering the security that's implemented on the phone It's no wonder they're having difficulties. These developers mostly do it for free as a hobby and have created many great ROMs for other phones. What contributions have you made before you start rubbishing them and tout for business?
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Install where's my Droid or some app like it as a system app so if u lose you're phone it wont matter if someone swaps sims or does a factory reset. U can still track it.
Use droidwall to limit what accesses data.
If u need support for certain languages u need root.
Use custom fonts.
Change screen density
And the list goes on...
Cnet just put up a review of the Motorola Atrix, one of the most anticipated smart-phones. AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps . "You can't install third-party apps" and goes on to say "No change of heart on third-party applications, as that feature is disabled on the Atrix."
Google's(andy rubin) response is to say let me market decide. I truly agree with this statement but when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work. General consumers dont know know the difference between android phones. Consumer assume since they are getting an android phone, all android phones are the same. This blocking of 3rd party apps creates a bad user experience and users will blame android and not the carriers.
( http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-atrix-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468396.html?tag=rvwBody )
Moved to Atrix General
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when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work.
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ITA.
Looking on the slighter brighter side, CNET also said this (emphasis added):
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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It's not enough, but it's a start.
Side loading apps is such a trivial issue on any device, including devices on AT&T. Root not even required. So for the tiny percentage that want to do this (like rooters) the option is there.
No Third party software? No "FREE" bootloader? No reasonable laptop dock price? It really destroyed the purpose of open-sourced software.....I guess AT&T kills the fun of having an Android phone.....I went from "must have one" to "might have one"...sigh.....
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
I've been considering switching to a different provider because I find it very expensive to buy unlocked phones just to get them in their enabled state. I know I would lose the flexibility of using the phone around the world, but I don't travel that much.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
sp_1st_timer said:
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
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AT&T restricts third-party apps, which means you can download only from the Android Market - which is not AT&T's store, btw.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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As far as I know, AT&T is the only one of the 4 major carriers that blocks 3rd-party apps. As previously mentioned, getting around that restriction is extremely simple and does not require rooting the phone. The Sideload Wonder Machine, for one, is very easy to use.
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
shadowscreation said:
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
eallan said:
The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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i know what your saying.but considering this is one of atts top o the line phones minus the bs tethering plan for laptop dock(totally ruined that for me by the way). im just hoping that the bootloader isnt crapped up im gonna wait a little bit on buying this till i know theres a way to custom rom the crap out of this phone so ya thats what im waiting on before i decide i want this phone or not if not owell there will be better ones later on this year im sure so guess we will see how this all works out
note to everyone i like grammatical errors and run-on sentences thats what makes life fun
babluc said:
AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
peachpuff said:
Relax... thats what xda is for.
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No kidding. Do you really need to get your panties in a wad about sideloading? That's like complaining that it doesn't come rooted from the factory.
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
i agree it shouldn't be an issue, it is and its an easy fix so I don't worry about it. Efuse is a bigger issue to development that this. If it does have efuse I won't buy it out of principal and I'll get an inspire.
Aridon said:
Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
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Agreed. Anyone who wants to sideload can figure it out. Its probably the easiest hack you could possibly do on your Android phone.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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And the Cappy always needs more! Here's to hoping the Atrix doesn't.
At least in the performance realm, it doesn't seem too need much help from hacks. Although I'm looking forward to seeing what can be accomplished...
This phone is a powerful machine to begin with. I will be happy once I can root just to delete any bloatware that I can't delete out the box. Sideloading will be nice too..
I just don't like the Motorola interface, launcher pro will be my first install..
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I have decided pass on the Atrix due to pricing tech concerns. I am looking forward to the samsung i9100.
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Has anyone tried super one click or z4root yet?
I use z4root on my Kyocera zio m6000 2.2 and it works perfect. Allows unroot and temp root. I recommend permanent root. Just unroot if needed.
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I dont tried.
Downloading z4root and testing...
Dont find usb debugging on Gingerbread.
Think we can´t root for now...
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Dont find usb debugging on Gingerbread.
Think we can´t root for now...
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settings>application>development>usb debugging
I find debuggin mode. Turned on, but nothin happened with z4root...
I had no success with both z4root and superoneclick (both exploits). My guess is that the exploits are fixed in this version of Android.
Gingerbread can be the problem with this apps.
We have to wait a little bit more.
Where are all the developers? I mean sony even said it will unlock the bootloader shouldn't we be seeing more development action. Didn't geohot say he was going to be the first to root the play?
this phone is only available in selected markets at the moment, namely europe and asia, once everyone can get it, development should pick up
silvacrest said:
this phone is only available in selected markets at the moment, namely europe and asia, once everyone can get it, development should pick up
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I really really hope so. This device will be 'made or broken' by the community
whats the whole point of rooting as it is aside from stopping some of the pre-installed stuff?
At the moment, that's pretty much the whole point - just to kick some of the pre-installed junk off the device. Altho in time, it could also lead to some other things, like extended menus, options, themes and the like.
However, these things might or might not require an unlocked bootloader to function as well.
With the boot loader unlocked however, you can basically replace the whole System. Even going so far as to install a completely new System like Cyanogenmod, Meego, MIUI and so on.
i guess getting rid of timescape would be useful. any news on the NA version being stock android?
"Timescape" in this case is pretty much only the launcher. Everything else is very much stock. So I don't think we really need to get rid of it. I'd just like to kick some stuff from the internal memory to make space for other things. I for example don't need Fifa or Sims. I never play those games.
I would love to be able to stop all random **** from connecting to the internet. Also timescape and things like mediaserver and postcard i would like to get rid off. Clean install.
AriStar said:
whats the whole point of rooting as it is aside from stopping some of the pre-installed stuff?
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To get more control over your device, gain acces to hidden files, change boot anim etc (don't know the file structere of xperia play). Get adfree working so you'll get rid of the advertizing in apps and browser, screenshot apps etc. Push apk's to /system/apps with adb shell (some won't install with the native manager, but will this way (modded apk's)). Overclock without flashing (did this to begin with on my DHD before i got the bootloader unlucked and installed a recovery, so i could flash a new kernel with oc options).
Lots of reasons mate
Regards Dousan...
Question : creating Custom Rom should be customize to SE Play snice the Gamepad and games??
Super one click doesn't work on gingerbread.
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RacecarBMW said:
Where are all the developers? I mean sony even said it will unlock the bootloader shouldn't we be seeing more development action. Didn't geohot say he was going to be the first to root the play?
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He has been banned from doing anything with any sony devices or helping in any developement of anything due to the court case over the ps3
What can i do with my NEW X play?
What is Rooted? o.o
and other things,
why should i root my phone?
im very new to android phones, just got my X play 2 days ago
some PRO there! noob needs help
Jahy420 said:
What can i do with my NEW X play?
What is Rooted? o.o
and other things,
why should i root my phone?
im very new to android phones, just got my X play 2 days ago
some PRO there! noob needs help
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to better answer your question we need to know the exact model of the Xperia you have?
Mine is the verizon model and it is R800x
there are also R800a, R800i, R800at, and a few others I think, so if you could please provide us with some more information we would be happy to try and help you.
Mine is R800i X play !
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Mine is R800i X play !
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I think that version is Rooted, though I am not 100% cause all I ever look for are things for the R800x. Anyway Rooting the phone ends up giving you complete Super User access to the phone. The biggest advantages that you can get from rooting you phone is the ability to WiFi Tether from the phone without the Wireless Network knowing about it, the ability to delete bloatware off the phone and move apps to the SD card that were once not able to be transferred, as well as the ability to over clock your phones processor to make it faster. Also gain some other small abilities like the ability to Print Screen the phone.
Jahy420 said:
What is Rooted? o.o
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Rooting gives you admins rights the same as you would get on a pc. Some apps need to have root access to work e.g. Titanium Backup, Ad free etc.
Jahy420 said:
why should i root my phone?
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Well as JasonKnight has said you can remove unwanted system apps. Making the phone boot up faster and generally run smoother. You can also backup your apps and data with titanium backup. Install custom themes e.t.c.
The list goes on but the main reason people root is to uninstall/freeze crap that comes on the phone that you normally cannot remove without root access. Which then gains you more ram and internal memory .
See here for a guide on rooting your phone. If you plan on rooting at any point do it now, since it will wipe your phone clean.
See here for apps that are safe to remove after rooting.
Jahy420 said:
What can i do with my NEW X play?
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Lol, Again the list is endless. For a start
Get yongzhs emulators from slideme here. They are still free atm. This will let you play thousands of old games with proper controls
Get AdFree Android it will remove adverts when browsing the net on your phone it also removes the ads in free games such as angry birds e.t.c. You need to be rooted to use this app.
Get another keyboard since the stock one is pants. I use Swype. Takes a bit of getting used too but once you do its awesome. If you dont like swyping it is alot better than the stock keyboard for just normal typing
Other than that just read around all the sections of this fourm and see what other people are doing.
JasonKnight said:
I think that version is Rooted,
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so how can i know if its already Rooted?
yep want to know also since my is r800i..
thanks
Jahy420 said:
so how can i know if its already Rooted?
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If you just bought it, then it isn't rooted yet. You have to go through the steps to get root yourself. If you can follow directions, it shouldn't be a problem for you.