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I never used a root phone so i have absolutely no idea what it does.
There is no one single explanation as well beside some parts here and there.
Anyone care to list the advantage and disadvantage that x10 can access from root at current stage? (my main concern is just get froyo or flash enable)
I also want to know what can we do now. My wish is to have this latest ROM from SE but I want to remove from these apps:
E-mail
Voice Caller
Google Talk
User manual
Moxier x 5 ( I want to remove all of them )
Quadrapop
SIM Toolkit
Wisepilot
And that is it. Can we go back to non rooted phone and original firmware in case we need it for warranty reasons and how ?
Cheers
Would also like to know if there are specific apps for rooted phones? And what the app would do?
bimmerboii said:
Would also like to know if there are specific apps for rooted phones? And what the app would do?
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With a rooted phone, you can get apps that can change startup items, take screen shots of your phone amongst various other things.
-Twiztid
Can we also modify call volume
What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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wrongfeifong said:
What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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It doesn't support it yet. Relax, it's been rooted for a few hours.
here，how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907
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What is the hype then? If root
doesn't give access to froyo
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Without root we are at the mercy of SE. If SE don't want the device to support Froyo we will never have Froyo.
With root it is in our own hands or more precisely the hands of The developerson here. Hopefully they will get the stock Froyo release and load it onto an x10 and get the drivers to ensure all works.
Unfortunately we have to wait until this has been achieved. Half of the battle has been won though.
I'd rather wait for updates from the devs on here than SE's devs! I mean root was promised and has now been achieved, but I'm still waiting on SE's updates, especially the one designed to improve performance and bug fixes.
To change startup items, install Startup Auditor from the market - it can do this for you without root.
Root should allow for better backup though, and for custom ROMs. Those are the biggest end- user advantages which I can see in an instant.
-- Tim
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is there a change we would have root soon as the Arc wil be released ?
otherwise i have to go for the SGS2
We won't know til we try it! Shouldn't think it would take long though..
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That all depends on how locked down the Arc has been. The X10 still hasn't had the bootloader fully cracked yet.
locked bootloader?
will the arc have a locked bootloader?
i mo more will buy a device with a locked bootloader.
Yes, the Arc, Neo, Pro and Play come with a locked bootloader. Can't see why SE would unlock it.
thats silly though... In that case, a lot of android/root lovers wouldnt buy the phone simply because the bootloader is locked.
For instance, I do not even consider the atrix a choice for a future phone because of the locked bootloader, I wish they let you do what you wanted with your phone, because they can always say **** you if you violate the warranty
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thats silly though... In that case, a lot of android/root lovers wouldnt buy the phone simply because the bootloader is locked.
For instance, I do not even consider the atrix a choice for a future phone because of the locked bootloader, I wish they let you do what you wanted with your phone, because they can always say **** you if you violate the warranty
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Many are going with the locked bootloader now, even Samsung ( though developers managed to unlock in a short time )
Plus, you'll be amazed by the speed of 2.3 OS and its functionality, so I don't think we'll need Custom ROMs and rooting ( keep in mind that most users here seek those because of the stock OS being unreliable and very slow ) talking about all devices prior to 2.3 OS
+1 that was the main reason i rooted in the end... Still on stock rom on my x10 but had optimised for performance. Won't both doing that if the arc runs well.. I like the ui a well as the physical design.. That's why I choose SE over htc/ others.
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im_iceman said:
I like the ui a well as the physical design.. That's why I choose SE over htc/ others.
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That is for sure a fact for me as well and as you mentioned only reason to go with SE. (Sony in General).
Rooting will let you do more tweaks as much as possible and unless you are into playing with your phone deep, you don't need it. Hopefully SE will do a better job in terms of support than what they did with X10 and X2 and X1.
I want root solely for Titanium Backup and Autostarts
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I want root solely for Titanium Backup and Autostarts
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But what I'm guessing is that you don't really need titanium backup if you aren't flashing roms...
One thing I really really want root for is wireless tethering
Straightflush said:
But what I'm guessing is that you don't really need titanium backup if you aren't flashing roms...
One thing I really really want root for is wireless tethering
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True, but I like using it to backup unwanted preloaded system apps etc. before removing/freezing them Already have a paid license from when I was screwing around with the ROM on my IS01, and it's a little easier than digging around in the folders for the right apks.
And yeah, wireless tethering is a big one. No idea how I forgot about it.
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And yeah, wireless tethering is a big one. No idea how I forgot about it.
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In 2.3.3 wireless and USB tethering is standard, no root is need but of course root is very useful in other situations.
arek1 said:
In 2.3.3 wireless and USB tethering is standard, no root is need but of course root is very useful in other situations.
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It's not so much whether the Android version will support it, but more whether your particular carrier wants to support or allow it
Let's hope unbranded/unlocked devices have tethering then!
Ambroos said:
Let's hope unbranded/unlocked devices have tethering then!
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I can't see reason why unbranded/unlocked phone will haven't tethering.
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I can't see reason why unbranded/unlocked phone will haven't tethering.
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Well, here in Belgium we have completely unbranded and completely unlocked Androids, but because of a conflict of Youtube with SABAM (the Belgian music rights thing), Youtube access is blocked (no Youtube app) on all Belgian handsets. Weird things happen, you never know!
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Well, here in Belgium we have completely unbranded and completely unlocked Androids, but because of a conflict of Youtube with SABAM (the Belgian music rights thing), Youtube access is blocked (no Youtube app) on all Belgian handsets. Weird things happen, you never know!
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I agree it is possible some carrier will block some function in phones but I hope in unbranded phones it will not be
Can you in Belgium just download Youtube application from market?
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I agree it is possible some carrier will block some function in phones but I hope in unbranded phones it will not be
Can you in Belgium just download Youtube application from market?
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As far as I know, Sony Ericsson is the only vendor that has firmware specific for Belgium. On the X10 for example you can only get Youtube if you manually install the APK from somewhere else. (X10 = 2.1, so no Youtube from the market anyway)
At the press event the people from Sony Ericsson said you can just install Youtube from the market on 2.3 (I think). In any case, I just ordered the Dutch version, it comes with completely generic firmware, and faster updates. Belgium was always a few weeks behind.
Think this has gone a bit off topic, but in general the arc should be an easy one to root, since it can be purchased with an unlocked bootloader ect.
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Has anyone tried super one click or z4root yet?
I use z4root on my Kyocera zio m6000 2.2 and it works perfect. Allows unroot and temp root. I recommend permanent root. Just unroot if needed.
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I dont tried.
Downloading z4root and testing...
Dont find usb debugging on Gingerbread.
Think we can´t root for now...
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Dont find usb debugging on Gingerbread.
Think we can´t root for now...
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settings>application>development>usb debugging
I find debuggin mode. Turned on, but nothin happened with z4root...
I had no success with both z4root and superoneclick (both exploits). My guess is that the exploits are fixed in this version of Android.
Gingerbread can be the problem with this apps.
We have to wait a little bit more.
Where are all the developers? I mean sony even said it will unlock the bootloader shouldn't we be seeing more development action. Didn't geohot say he was going to be the first to root the play?
this phone is only available in selected markets at the moment, namely europe and asia, once everyone can get it, development should pick up
silvacrest said:
this phone is only available in selected markets at the moment, namely europe and asia, once everyone can get it, development should pick up
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I really really hope so. This device will be 'made or broken' by the community
whats the whole point of rooting as it is aside from stopping some of the pre-installed stuff?
At the moment, that's pretty much the whole point - just to kick some of the pre-installed junk off the device. Altho in time, it could also lead to some other things, like extended menus, options, themes and the like.
However, these things might or might not require an unlocked bootloader to function as well.
With the boot loader unlocked however, you can basically replace the whole System. Even going so far as to install a completely new System like Cyanogenmod, Meego, MIUI and so on.
i guess getting rid of timescape would be useful. any news on the NA version being stock android?
"Timescape" in this case is pretty much only the launcher. Everything else is very much stock. So I don't think we really need to get rid of it. I'd just like to kick some stuff from the internal memory to make space for other things. I for example don't need Fifa or Sims. I never play those games.
I would love to be able to stop all random **** from connecting to the internet. Also timescape and things like mediaserver and postcard i would like to get rid off. Clean install.
AriStar said:
whats the whole point of rooting as it is aside from stopping some of the pre-installed stuff?
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To get more control over your device, gain acces to hidden files, change boot anim etc (don't know the file structere of xperia play). Get adfree working so you'll get rid of the advertizing in apps and browser, screenshot apps etc. Push apk's to /system/apps with adb shell (some won't install with the native manager, but will this way (modded apk's)). Overclock without flashing (did this to begin with on my DHD before i got the bootloader unlucked and installed a recovery, so i could flash a new kernel with oc options).
Lots of reasons mate
Regards Dousan...
Question : creating Custom Rom should be customize to SE Play snice the Gamepad and games??
Super one click doesn't work on gingerbread.
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RacecarBMW said:
Where are all the developers? I mean sony even said it will unlock the bootloader shouldn't we be seeing more development action. Didn't geohot say he was going to be the first to root the play?
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He has been banned from doing anything with any sony devices or helping in any developement of anything due to the court case over the ps3
Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?
MIUI I would think. Use Root Explorer to rip our the phone stuff and other .apk you don't want. Leave in Market and maybe Amazon Appstore so she can get games and music
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uniquenameevo said:
Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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That is what my old Hero is essentially used for. I did not remove anything but I just installed CM7 and we keep it in Airplane Mode with (Wifi on) and my son uses it to play games.
ckoadiyn said:
Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Exactly. If the phone is taken off the account it wont work a phone anymore since Sprint towers won't allow it to make or receive phone calls so it could be considered a mini tablet at that point (powerful mini tablet tho). If your daughter needs to make purchases she can use the wifi radio to connect to the internet.
The other option is to disable the radio... there is an app on the market called network that will allow you to control if you want the CDMA radio to work... you could install the app, disable the radio and then remove the app. This way IF you ever need a spare phone you can revert the process and have the CDMA radio back online.
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.
uniquenameevo said:
Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.
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I understand was just saying either way if u do get something you could post it lol
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fenixjn said:
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.
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This. I once accidentally deleted the phone apk with root explorer and everything went to hell. Had to pull the battery and do a nand restore. Although, I'm sure if you had a ROM that was designed to operate without a phone apk, it would work just fine. Tablets don't have them.
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MIUI is perfect for this.
I don't think I will even have to "remove" core parts (wasn't concerned since I have a nandroid of synergy from last night), just hide them. I would have liked using this before, but the 4G was a killer for me...until now.
Do we need help getting root on this phone, or is everything the same as the international version? I have my phone in hand, if anyone needs system dumps or anything like that.
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
Root that $h!t and let us know how it goes. Also, see if the CWM Recovery for the international will work
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I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Pm sent.
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designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Why not post?
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jumanji404 said:
Why not post?
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why would I post something without confirming it works?
designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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jumanji404 said:
I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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Fair enough.. guess I wouldn't hold anyone responsible.. especially this early in the game..
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why would I post something without confirming it works?
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DG - are you actually going to hang around here at XDA for a bit or are you just teasing us? :laugh:
This forum is going to need to experienced devs!
designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Designgears... I remember you since you quit working on moto matrix ...
Nice to see you here though. Good news for att guys.
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jdbeitz said:
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
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Send me the stock boot image please so I can root it.
Mark.
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Eh, that's debateable. In the end it boils down to what you want to do with the device. For me? I want root so I can reinstall Cerberus to the System folder so even if someone wipes my phone, I can still track it. Can't do that without root.
CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Yea, this is actually the first AT&T Smartphone where I haven't cursed them out for the amount of bloatware installed. Granted I did immediately load Apex Launcher to tide me over until I can install CM9. I hate how touchwiz looks, but that's not AT&T, that's Samsung. This thing honestly speeds along, especially with websites. I'm also apparently in an LTE test area.....with a piss poor signal I was pulling about a 20mbit download and 13 mbit upload. I have to say, it's faster and more responsive than my GSII with CM9. That's impressive considering it is running TW.
Also from looking at his posts he did order it....so he could be using the GNex until he can. Though this pretty much is the GNex....just not running stock Android.
CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Are you forgetting Titanium Backup oh and some Juice Defender stuff needs root. Root is the only way to go.