I have tried to remove some of the bloatware (blockbuster,trialware,vzw junk) with no luck .I have tried both deleting the apk or renaming to .old in root explorer and as soon as I reboot it comes back. I know I have root because I have ran setcpu and other apps requiring root. Is thete anything I need to do differently? I am coming from the original Droid.
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I would not recommend removing the bloatware entirely, but instead buy Titanium Backup pro. With that, you can freeze the apps so they can't be seen or used, but if and when we get an update, you won't have to worry about trying to find the right files.
Bloat
I have rooted using Z4 and removed bloatware using Titanium with no problems.
My purpose in removing the bloatware would be to save battery, memory, space and not to have stuff running in the background I do not want or need. I don't really want to flash a ROM. Is there a way yet to remove the VZ stuff after rooting?
I would use Titanium Backup and freeze those programs. If you remove them completely, you won't be able to install OTA updates, like the looming Froyo one.
Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?
y0himba said:
Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?
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Yes, that's what it is. Freezing them in Titanium backup essentially removes them, but leaves the files in place. You won't be able to access anything that is frozen outside of Titanium Backup until it is thawed. When you get a notification about an update, just thaw all the frozen apps, and update away.
I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.
xmguy said:
I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.
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I read elsewhere that if you just rename the files to .apk.bak they reappear on a reboot.
Also, I am looking for a way to remove the Bing garbage, hopefully a batch process of some sort to replace it all with Google.
The D17 ROM looks nice but it also appears development was just stopped while it was still beta? I cannot find a good explanation of how to get the ROM on there. I keep seeing "Odin" but cannot find the latest version download link and there are no tutorials on how to use it.
If you don't know how to use odin you shouldn't bother with flashing 0_o one mistake in there and you can easily be done.......
Also, if by DL17 CLEAN ROM, then you can rest assured it works fine.. There are no bugs..
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Aye, you are correct, I have no idea what to do with Odin. That's pretty much the reason I didn't want to flash a ROM. With a WinMo phone flashing a ROM is easy...I am completely n00b with Android.
The only reason I would flash it is the whole "CLEAN" thing. I would prefer to achieve that effect without the need to flash. Rooting my new phone was nerve wracking enough, but I got it done due to these forums. :thumbsup:
You could always use Launcher Pro and just hide the apps.
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Lol, I got your back man.... If you ever want to flash a rom or need help with odin, just pm or something...
When it comes to odin, as long as your connection is guaranteed, and you use **pda** instead of **phone** you should be golden... Even if something does go wrong, it is really hard to brick samsung phones xP
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I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
j0hn0n1 said:
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...
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Been rooted for quite awhile now, but stuck with stock 2.2.1 at first. Now I'm ready to flash CM7, mostly because I'm sick of certain bugs and issues I've been having that I hope this will fix, and I have many questions. I have spent weeks reading various forums, reviews, instructions, etc. I like to do my research, but need some things better clarified. Please humor someone fairly new to all of this and answer as many as you can. Thanks.
√I have CWM Recovery 3.x right now, should I upgrade to the 5.x one?
√What's this Amon_Ra Recovery I've been seeing? Is it different? better?
√Should I start with CM 7.0.3 or jump right into the new 7.1.0?
√What kind of changes can I expect to see to functions and appearance?
√Will I still have all of the basic apps? i.e. camera, gallery, swype, bluetooth, gps, weather, calender, clock, etc?
√What about the T-Mobile specific things like MyAccount?
√Does it effect the Genius Button?
√I want to know what kind of work will be involved with getting my phone back to the way I like it and what kinds of things will be replaced(I assume with better apps) or removed all together requiring me to find replacements. I've tried to review the changelog, but quite frankly, I don't understand most of what it lists.
I use LauncherPro and Folder Organizer.
√Will all of that stuff still be there on my homescreens?
√Will I need to redo all of my settings, ringtones, wallpapers, alarms, etc?
Yes, I want to be rid of sense and use CM instead.
Yes, I want to be updated to GingerBread without waiting anymore for the OTA
No, I do not want to lose my customization, apps or anything else except the bloatware.
I have a full titanium pro backup of all apps and system files plus data.
I have a nandroid backup done through clockwork mod recovery.
My e-mail, calender & contacts should be backed up through Google.
I use SMS Backup & Restore for all of my texts and Handcent is the app.
I backed up my LauncherPro and my Folder Organizer.
I have the SD card backed up in full on my PC.
√Did I miss anything?
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
√Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
√Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
√Should I be using ADB for any of this?
I'm sure I will come up with even more questions as I continue to research and get answers to these, but thank you so very much to anyone willing to take the time to settle a new root user's overloaded brain. There is just SO much info out there, sometimes it is hard to make sense of it all and this forum has always seemed to me to be not just the most knowledgeable, but also the most willing to break things down and clarify things without judging a poster for being confused. Noobs like me appreciate that.
Sorraia3 said:
Been rooted for quite awhile now, but stuck with stock 2.2.1 at first. Now I'm ready to flash CM7, mostly because I'm sick of certain bugs and issues I've been having that I hope this will fix, and I have many questions. I have spent weeks reading various forums, reviews, instructions, etc. I like to do my research, but need some things better clarified. Please humor someone fairly new to all of this and answer as many as you can. Thanks.
I have CWM Recovery 3.x right now, should I upgrade to the 5.x one?
What's this Amon_Ra Recovery I've been seeing? Is it different? better?
Should I start with CM 7.0.3 or jump right into the new 7.1.0?
What kind of changes can I expect to see to functions and appearance? Will I still have all of the basic apps? i.e. camera, gallery, swype, bluetooth, gps, weather, calender, clock, etc? What about the T-Mobile specific things like MyAccount? Does it effect the Genius Button?
I want to know what kind of work will be involved with getting my phone back to the way I like it and what kinds of things will be replaced(I assume with better apps) or removed all together requiring me to find replacements. I've tried to review the changelog, but quite frankly, I don't understand most of what it lists.
I use LauncherPro and Folder Organizer.
Will all of that stuff still be there on my homescreens?
Will I need to redo all of my settings, ringtones, wallpapers, alarms, etc?
Yes, I want to be rid of sense and use CM instead.
Yes, I want to be updated to GingerBread without waiting anymore for the OTA
No, I do not want to lose my customization, apps or anything else except the bloatware.
I have a full titanium pro backup of all apps and system files plus data.
I have a nandroid backup done through clockwork mod recovery.
My e-mail, calender & contacts should be backed up through Google.
I use SMS Backup & Restore for all of my texts and Handcent is the app.
I backed up my LauncherPro and my Folder Organizer.
I have the SD card backed up in full on my PC.
Did I miss anything?
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD. Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it? Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc? Should I be using ADB for any of this?
I'm sure I will come up with even more questions as I continue to research and get answers to these, but thank you so very much to anyone willing to take the time to settle a new root user's overloaded brain. There is just SO much info out there, sometimes it is hard to make sense of it all and this forum has always seemed to me to be not just the most knowledgeable, but also the most willing to break things down and clarify things without judging a poster for being confused. Noobs like me appreciate that.
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You should update clockworkmod recovery just to be on the safe side. I don't believe there is an amon_RA recovery for the MT4G. we only have Clockworkmod and ext4 recovery. I would personally go for clockworkmod.
Now as for which CM7 version, that depends on you. Do you want Android 2.3.4 (CM7) or Android 2.3.7 (CM7.1)? Both are pretty much the same, just a different base and minor changes.
When you flash CM7, you'll need to flash the gapps as well, since Google apps are not preinstalled. Instructions on the CM thread. But besides gapps, all the other stock apps should be there, (minus the bloatware). So like camera, phone, messages, gallery etc will all be there. Tmobile my account can be downloaded from the market for free.
THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
Now as for apps and back ups, yes you will lose all data as you are required to do a FULL WIPE. but if you have already backed up apps in titanium backup then you should be fine.
NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
For your apps, you can back them up with another app, called titanium back up i.e.
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
I actually using MIUI and it is amazing. I unplugged my phone last might at 12, went to bed just woke up 1 hour ago and have.been checking emails, xda,,etc on my phone for 35 min and look at my battery
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saranhai said:
NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
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√Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
√So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
DANCCS said:
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
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√I'm confused... Do you mean do not install GAPPS, but install my Titanium backups instead or just don't restore my Google info such as email, contacts, calender, etc?
saranhai said:
When you flash CM7, you'll need to flash the gapps as well, since Google apps are not preinstalled. Instructions on the CM thread. But besides gapps, all the other stock apps should be there, (minus the bloatware). So like camera, phone, messages, gallery etc will all be there. Tmobile my account can be downloaded from the market for free.
THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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√Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
Thanks guys
saranhai said:
You should update clockworkmod recovery just to be on the safe side. I don't believe there is an amon_RA recovery for the MT4G. we only have Clockworkmod and ext4 recovery. I would personally go for clockworkmod.
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OK, well since I have CWM now, I will just stick with that and update it. Thanks.
saranhai said:
Now as for which CM7 version, that depends on you. Do you want Android 2.3.4 (CM7) or Android 2.3.7 (CM7.1)? Both are pretty much the same, just a different base and minor changes.
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√Would you mind elaborating on the differences/changes? √What do you mean by a different base?
saranhai said:
Now as for apps and back ups, yes you will lose all data as you are required to do a FULL WIPE. but if you have already backed up apps in titanium backup then you should be fine.
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√Yeah, I think I have the apps pretty well covered in backups, but what about the other stuff?
[√Ringtones, alerts, clock alarms, calender alarms, wallpapers, etc. Not the actual files but the settings assigning them.
√All the personalized and customized stuff?
√Settings like my saved wi-fi networks, preferences like default apps to use for browser, messages, etc.
There's so many little things and tweaks I've made I fear I won't be able to find/remember them all again to get everything back the way it was.
√Will that all be gone?
√I understand some of it gets backed up in the nandroid backup, but that does me no good with a new ROM, because that it is only useful if I want to flash back to the stock ROM, correct? Is there another way to save all of the settings & customizations? Or am I just thoroughly misinformed and confused?
Sorraia3 said:
OK, well since I have CWM now, I will just stick with that and update it. Thanks.
Would you mind elaborating on the differences/changes? What do you mean by a different base?
Yeah, I think I have the apps pretty well covered in backups, but what about the other stuff? Ringtones, alerts, clock alarms, calender alarms, wallpapers, etc. Not the actual files but the settings assigning them. All the personalized and customized stuff? Settings like my saved wi-fi networks, preferences like default apps to use for browser, messages, etc. There's so many little things and tweaks I've made I fear I won't be able to find/remember them all again to get everything back the way it was. Will that all be gone? I understand some of it gets backed up in the nandroid backup, but that does me no good with a new ROM, because that it is only useful if I want to flash back to the stock ROM, correct? Is there another way to save all of the settings & customizations? Or am I just thoroughly misinformed and confused?
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lol someone has lots of questions
but that's ok
really, android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any BIG differences, or noticeable ones. base means the android version that the rom is based on/running on.
titanium backup only covers apps, all of the rest of the settings WILL BE ERASED, sorry. when you wipe the phone in clockworkmod recovery, you're basically doing a factory reset. doing a nandroid backup only back ups the CURRENT rom your phone is running right now, in your case, stock 2.2.1. the nandroid is used to go back to in case you need it.
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sorraia3 said:
i'm confused... Do you mean do not install gapps, but install my titanium backups instead or just don't restore my google info such as email, contacts, calender, etc?
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if you are going to flash cm7, you must manually install gapps, since they are not included in the rom.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
For your apps, you can back them up with another app, called titanium back up i.e.
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
I actually using MIUI and it is amazing. I unplugged my phone last might at 12, went to bed just woke up 1 hour ago and have.been checking emails, xda,,etc on my phone for 35 min and look at my battery
Btw, I bought a 1700 battery capacity
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lol that's nothing
look at the great battery life i've gotten using Virtuous Unity:
saranhai said:
lol someone has lots of questions
but that's ok
really, android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any BIG differences, or noticeable ones. base means the android version that the rom is based on/running on.
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√OK Thanks, so I should be able to find a list somewhere of Gingerbread features and that's what will be in the ROM? Is there a straightforward list somewhere, in layman's terms, of what apps & features & such come with it or don't? Does the appearance of things change? Like the settings screens, notifications, lock screen, etc?
saranhai said:
titanium backup only covers apps, all of the rest of the settings WILL BE ERASED, sorry. when you wipe the phone in clockworkmod recovery, you're basically doing a factory reset. doing a nandroid backup only back ups the CURRENT rom your phone is running right now, in your case, stock 2.2.1. the nandroid is used to go back to in case you need it.
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√I found another App called MyBackup Root that says it backs up Data including System Settings, Android Home, Alarms, Dictionary, Calendar, PlayLists, MMS, SMS, Bookmarks, Call Logs, & Contacts. The first 2, System Settings & Android Home, think they will cover all that extra customization stuff? And will it give me any problems when I restore it?
saranhai said:
if you are going to flash cm7, you must manually install gapps, since they are not included in the rom.
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√OK, and then once I install the actual apps from there, I use Titanium to restore my settings and data?
Sorraia3 said:
OK Thanks, so I should be able to find a list somewhere of Gingerbread features and that's what will be in the ROM? Is there a straightforward list somewhere, in layman's terms, of what apps & features & such come with it or don't? Does the appearance of things change? Like the settings screens, notifications, lock screen, etc?
I found another App called MyBackup Root that says it backs up Data including System Settings, Android Home, Alarms, Dictionary, Calendar, PlayLists, MMS, SMS, Bookmarks, Call Logs, & Contacts. The first 2, System Settings & Android Home, think they will cover all that extra customization stuff? And will it give me any problems when I restore it?
OK, and then once I install the actual apps from there, I use Titanium to restore my settings and data?
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android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
you can't back up the phone, dictionary, android home, system app etc from stock MT4G and restore it once you are in CM7. the roms are totally different, the apps were made for HTC roms, and you are running AOSP.
once you install the gapps, yes, you can use titanium to restore your downloaded apps+data. BUT NOT SYSTEM APPS BACKED UP FROM YOUR PREVIOUS ROM.
saranhai said:
android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
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OK thanks, I will look.
saranhai said:
you can't back up the phone, dictionary, android home, system app etc from stock MT4G and restore it once you are in CM7. the roms are totally different, the apps were made for HTC roms, and you are running AOSP.
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√OK, so if I understand correctly. The CM7 ROM has it's own apps which replace the stock ones and I will need to set them up all over again. Correct?
?Is there a list of these apps out there so I can go through my current ones and maybe write down key settings to use when setting up the new ones?
saranhai said:
once you install the gapps, yes, you can use titanium to restore your downloaded apps+data. BUT NOT SYSTEM APPS BACKED UP FROM YOUR PREVIOUS ROM.
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√So any App that I actually downloaded and installed myself after getting the phone, but nothing that came on the phone initially with the Stock ROM, correct? It just won't do it or it will cause problems?
Sorraia3 said:
OK thanks, I will look.
OK, so if I understand correctly. The CM7 ROM has it's own apps which replace the stock ones and I will need to set them up all over again. Correct?
Is there a list of these apps out there so I can go through my current ones and maybe write down key settings to use when setting up the new ones?
So any App that I actually downloaded and installed myself after getting the phone, but nothing that came on the phone initially with the Stock ROM, correct? It just won't do it or it will cause problems?
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yes, that's all correct.
well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
if you try to restore the stock apps from another rom onto this rom, it will get messed up.
saranhai said:
yes, that's all correct.
well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
if you try to restore the stock apps from another rom onto this rom, it will get messed up.
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Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
√Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
Good to know about the stock apps. Thank You! I probably would have tried to restore everything if you hadn't said something. See, questions overload pays off LOL
√So once I flash the ROM, Should I actually re-download and reinstall my apps, will it find them automatically from the SD card, or do I have to restore everything from the backups?
√I saw you mention the VU ROM... I was looking into that one awhile ago before I settled on CM7. How do you like it? That's a Sense one, right? Much different from CM? How hard would it be to switch between them to check them both out?
saranhai said:
android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
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Sorraia3 said:
OK thanks, I will look.
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UPDATE: I found a decent list here... http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
oddly though, it only goes up to 2.3.4, no 2.3.7, but from what I could gather elsewhere the only main changes from .4 to .7 were for the Nexus S and Galaxy S, so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
√And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
And OMG 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, looks amazing! I can't wait.
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Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
Good to know about the stock apps. Thank You! I probably would have tried to restore everything if you hadn't said something. See, questions overload pays off LOL
?So once I flash the ROM, Should I actually re-download and reinstall my apps, will it find them automatically from the SD card, or do I have to restore everything from the backups?
?I saw you mention the VU ROM... I was looking into that one awhile ago before I settled on CM7. How do you like it? That's a Sense one, right? Much different from CM? How hard would it be to switch between them to check them both out?
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You would have to restore the data manually through titanium backup.
VU is AMAZINGGGG
Awesome battery life, smooth as butter, beautiful UI. better than CM7 IMO lol. VU is a Sense 3.0 Tom based off of the HTC Sensation.
VU is a LOT different from CM, since one is sense and the other is AOSP.
It wouldn't be very hard to switch between them and try both of them, just do the basics for both Roms:
1) MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
2) do a full wipe (DATA, CACHE, DALVIK CACHE)
3) flash rom.zip
4) reboot, wait patiently (first boot should take longer)
5) enjoy!
6) flash any other mods/tweaks/themes etc
7) hit the thanks button
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saranhai said:
VU is AMAZINGGGG
Awesome battery life, smooth as butter, beautiful UI. better than CM7 IMO lol. VU is a Sense 3.0 Tom based off of the HTC Sensation.
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Hmmm... My son and his girlfriend both have the Sensation. They love them. OK, I will definitely check that one out too.
Which is the current stable version to get? Do I still need the GAPPS?
I would love to see a side by side comparison chart of ROM apps and features. Can't believe no one has done one yet. Although I guess with all of the frequent updates to ROMs it would be a pain to maintain.
Thank you for answering so many of my questions, saranhai, you've been very kind and patient. Would you mind taking one more look through these posts and see if you might be able to answer any of the remaining ones with question marks? Thanks so much!
Sorraia3 said:
Hmmm... My son and his girlfriend both have the Sensation. They love them. OK, I will definitely check that one out too.
Which is the current stable version to get? Do I still need the GAPPS?
I would love to see a side by side comparison chart of ROM apps and features. Can't believe no one has done one yet. Although I guess with all of the frequent updates to ROMs it would be a pain to maintain.
Thank you for answering so many of my questions, saranhai, you've been very kind and patient. Would you mind taking one more look through these posts and see if you might be able to answer any of the remaining ones with question marks? Thanks so much!
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Yes definitely check out VU
The most stable version would be the latest one, v2.39.
You don't need to flash gapps for this Rom, they're all included
I suggest you wait until the Virtuous team releases their sense 3.5 version
I can't wait!!
Lol no problem bro, just hit the thanks button if I've helped
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saranhai said:
Yes definitely check out VU
The most stable version would be the latest one, v2.39.
You don't need to flash gapps for this Rom, they're all included
I suggest you wait until the Virtuous team releases their sense 3.5 version
I can't wait!!
Lol no problem bro, just hit the thanks button if I've helped
Sent from my HTC Glacier Sense 3.0 using xda premium
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OK, thanks! I'll check out the 2.39 for now to see if it's for me or not.
Oh and I'm not a "bro" LOL
Sorraia3 said:
OK, thanks! I'll check out the 2.39 for now to see if it's for me or not.
Oh and I'm not a "bro" LOL
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haha sorry man, it's just my way of calling people
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haha sorry man, it's just my way of calling people
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No problem, considering all of the time you've been taking to help me, you can call me whatever you like. lol
Still have a few outstanding questions though, if you or anyone else would mind answering them. Thanks!
Regarding flashing CM or VU:
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THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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√Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
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well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
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Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
...so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
√And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
Regarding the SD Card:
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
?Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
√Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
√Should I be using ADB for any of this?
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NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
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√Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
√So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
Sorraia3 said:
No problem, considering all of the time you've been taking to help me, you can call me whatever you like. lol
Still have a few outstanding questions though, if you or anyone else would mind answering them. Thanks!
Regarding flashing CM or VU:
?Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
...so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
?And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
Regarding the SD Card:
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
?Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
?Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
?Should I be using ADB for any of this?
?Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
?So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
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for VU: if the genius button feature is not present, you can still use bluetooth and voice commands for google search. google search is pretty much the same thing as genius, maybe not as many features, but not bad at all.
all roms should include the stock apps, messages, camera, phone, calender, calculator, etc etc, and that includes CM7. i'm not so sure about the camera timer on CM7 though. really, it doesn't matter which version you install, though i would suggest CM7.1 because it seems more stable to me.
SDcard: if you are experiencing issues, then yes, wipe the SDcard and partition it. i would say that you pop out the SDcard and plug it into the computer, just to be on the safe side
you shouldn't need to be using adb for any of this.