There are two specific Kiwi issues I would like to discuss.
Does anybody know where to obtain a stock ROM for the I9000 from Telecom New Zealand? I believe there is only Eclair, but would like to be proven wrong. I may require this in case of any warrany issues and to reset before upgrading to Gingerbread (at least I am led to believe this).
Which modem are you using (again Telecom NZ) on your custom ROMs? I have tried a few and I am currently using JL2. I had to flash this separately while using Darky's ROM 9.3, which worked fine in some parts of town but not at all in others (I presume it could not handle the 850 band).
Many thanks in advance
I9000T - Darky 9.3 with Speedmod and JL2 modem
duckbill22 said:
There are two specific Kiwi issues I would like to discuss.
Does anybody know where to obtain a stock ROM for the I9000 from Telecom New Zealand? I believe there is only Eclair, but would like to be proven wrong. I may require this in case of any warrany issues and to reset before upgrading to Gingerbread (at least I am led to believe this).
Which modem are you using (again Telecom NZ) on your custom ROMs? I have tried a few and I am currently using JL2. I had to flash this separately while using Darky's ROM 9.3, which worked fine in some parts of town but not at all in others (I presume it could not handle the 850 band).
Many thanks in advance
I9000T - Darky 9.3 with Speedmod and JL2 modem
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I believe JL2 is the correct modem to use. Do you have a Telecom SGS as the Vodafone one obviously does not support the 850mhz band that Telecom requires. It is possible that the rom/modem combo you are using disables the 850mhz band which would explain why some parts of town aren't working. I'm pretty sure there is a way to enable it if your hardware supports.
As for the thing about the stock rom, I think maybe you should ask people on the Geekzone forums - http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=97&topicid=62267&page_no=323
telecom froyo
I have the telecom froyo release even though it has not been released officially.
i got it from Modaco,(i think cant quite remember), if someone could tell me how to post a download link i can put it up here. Also i have a rom which makes it relly easy to get 850Mhz back. Im at work at the moment so cant post that yet either.
Im using JVE modem with multi csc which works great in new zealand, JVE good for battery too.
pm me if your interested.
Choice one.
Keeping all the New Zealand info in one thread for neatness.
I've just moved in New Zealand from UK. I have UK SGS I9000.
Which New Zealand network would you recommend getting a Sim Card for?
Should I switch my ROM to a New Zealand based one? Hoping to use the free SatNav software too (is it called Navigon or something?), in case this makes a difference on ROM choice.
I've been told that 2degrees is the cheapest network.
Are there any hardware / software limitations on which network I should choose with a UK unit? 850Mhz band availability?
Love to hear your thoughts...
Thanks
Mike
Welcome to NZ. The network will depend on your location: 2 Degrees is cheap but has low coverage in rural areas, Vodaphone is ok in cities. I am with NZ Telecom, they get a bit of flak for problems they have had in the past. However, they are investing huge amounts and have the best rural coverage. Please be aware that your phone will have to use the 850 band in some areas.
I recommend the JL2 modem (ROM kitchen) and Darky 9.3 with Voodoo kernel.
Navigation for GPS use.
I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data. This of course will change with time. Plus I'm a big supporter of NZ owned businesses.
Vodafone is a horrible company to deal with. Plus they have a lot of network issues everywhere in the country.
I have heard good things about the XT network (Telecom) in terms of speeds and coverage. If I wasn't on the tight budget, this is what I would choose in NZ. I hope this helps. :>
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I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data.
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Just a quick correction, coverage is fine as the device roams on Voda when out of zone. So if there's voda coverage, there's 2degrees coverage (data is not as cheap though).
I'm using CM7, JPM. All seems fine.
Hello from Hamilton.
Thanks for the advice.
I'm probably going to be mainly in the Wellington region, so should have reasonable coverage on any network. Glad to hear that 2degrees has roaming on Voda though.
Will my UK I9000 SGS have 850MHz band available in the hardware? (sorry if this is a silly question). Will it be used if I have the correct firmware? Is 850MHz band used by all networks in NZ, or only for some networks?
All of the networks appear to be quite pricey for data. Who are the most cost effective for data? I'll be looking for either PAYG or Monthly Sim Only deals.
Thanks again for the great info.
Mike
nzroman said:
I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data. This of course will change with time. Plus I'm a big supporter of NZ owned businesses.
Vodafone is a horrible company to deal with. Plus they have a lot of network issues everywhere in the country.
Vodafone is a horrible compony in every country. Period…
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xpcomputers said:
Thanks for the advice.
I'm probably going to be mainly in the Wellington region, so should have reasonable coverage on any network. Glad to hear that 2degrees has roaming on Voda though.
Will my UK I9000 SGS have 850MHz band available in the hardware? (sorry if this is a silly question). Will it be used if I have the correct firmware? Is 850MHz band used by all networks in NZ, or only for some networks?
All of the networks appear to be quite pricey for data. Who are the most cost effective for data? I'll be looking for either PAYG or Monthly Sim Only deals.
Thanks again for the great info.
Mike
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I presume you're talking about 850MHz 3G and not 2G.
Vodafone and 2degrees have 900MHz 3G.
Telecom has 850MHz 3G.
I think your UK i9000 supports 900MHz from what I have managed to find out.
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Telecom New Zealand
ive got an international i9000 that i bought before work (telecom) stocked them - so I cant get staff subsidy on my cell heh - I have 2degrees - because of the data pack and living in town - it was bad coverage where i lived out on the west coast at murawai - but in town i have no issues - even in the middle of the telecom borg cube building - i get my 2degrees data and voice coverage
I cannot recommend anyone to you - but I have converted some of the telecom staff i9000's to darkyrom's The theory is that version of the rom supports the 850mhz band - I guess I find out tomorrow with one of them
About backing up your factory rom - root the rom is the minimum first step and then you can make an odin image out of whatever is on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960946&highlight=[guide]
dunno if that link will be visible or not...
have fun
Thanks guys.
I've gone with 2 degrees for now on a simple pre-pay sim and all looks good. I'll see how much I use it and maybe get an appropriate monthly contract if needed in the future.
Mike
Quick further question...
Which CSC code do New Zealanders have? Should I, stick with my generic UK code, or move to a NZ one? What do you use and recommend?
Does which CSC I have affect my ability to use Navigon for free?
(I forget what my current CSC code is, but I noticed my Google Market is now priced in NZ dollars already, but they want to charge me for navigon download, which I thought was free over here. Ultimately I'll deal with Navigon, in the Navigon thread, and ask about CSC here... Just wondering if there is any implications of what makes a better CSC.)
hey guys,
just want to ask, which pool do you use for gps?
I'm currently setting mine to north america pool but I'm not sure if it's the best one to use in NZ.
anyone knows the best gps pool to use in NZ?
I want fast and accurate lock
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hey guys,
just want to ask, which pool do you use for gps?
I'm currently setting mine to north america pool but I'm not sure if it's the best one to use in NZ.
anyone knows the best gps pool to use in NZ?
I want fast and accurate lock
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If you've rooted your sgs then try using this app called GPS AIDS from the market. Its very good, i usually get a gps lock in 5-10 seconds indoors with a cold start.
kart_y_26 said:
If you've rooted your sgs then try using this app called GPS AIDS from the market. Its very good, i usually get a gps lock in 5-10 seconds indoors with a cold start.
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Yea, I've been using that app for a while now.
It is very good indeed.
But I would like to improve it more by chaning gps pool through this app actually.
I was wondering whether I should use NZ server for gps or worldwide one...
Set to oceania.pool.ntp.org using FasterFix or other suitable apps.
Has anybody gone 2.3.3 yet? If yes, what about the modem performance on the XT network?
[email protected] said:
Yea, I've been using that app for a while now.
It is very good indeed.
But I would like to improve it more by chaning gps pool through this app actually.
I was wondering whether I should use NZ server for gps or worldwide one...
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O rite. From what i remember there's only 3 or 4 to choose from(europe, north america, i mite be forgetting one). The results i posted above were for the europe pool. so i reckon anything better than that would do.
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Set to oceania.pool.ntp.org using FasterFix or other suitable apps.
Has anybody gone 2.3.3 yet? If yes, what about the modem performance on the XT network?
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is oceanic pool better and more stable than others?
I've set to europe and north america, but they were not the best..
[email protected] said:
is oceanic pool better and more stable than others?
I've set to europe and north america, but they were not the best..
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Sorry, I cannot answer that with certainty. I do not believe that there are vast differences. I have tried Asia, North America and our version Oceania. I am however, very unhappy with the GPS performance, in particular the length of time to get a fix. Needleess to say, I have followed most guides and tried various fixes. I am, however, limited in changing modems as I rely on 850mhz band.
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Anyone can dump their Telstra rom here to share, that would be great for people who are in Canada using Touch HD, Thanks.
I just tried...
"Even Flashed the Telstra rom, still cant get the 850 3G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but
the display of model have changed from T8282 to T8285
You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
That is different
finer6 said:
You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
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that is different
Really? I am running this rom and it has telstra all over it... pretty restrictive to be honest
that's because you have to put your devices serial number and it picks the best ROM suited to the device. I have "RUU_BlackStone_Telstra_WWE_1.21.841.1_Radio_52.57.25.30_1.10.25.25_Ship.exe" version if your interested? I'll provide a download link when I get home from work...
Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?
Puzz said:
Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?
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People are hoping that the Telstra model will work with North American 3G, and that there's some way to extract that functionality via software.
I have yet to hear a consensus on whether it's possible or not, though. One poster will say that without a doubt it's impossible, that lack of 3G is 100% hardware based, and another will say that is most definitely is a software/radio ROM issue.
I can't wait for some sort of verdict.
i know what u mean if it aint the t8285 model it won't work with 850 umts...
heres a link to the rom anyway guys... http://dutch7.com/blackstone
850 on hd t8282
I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.
well i guess testing it wont hurt. i would want to give it a try too.
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I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.
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Yours originally is T8285 but they flashed the T8282 rom, thats why it shows that is T8282.
My phone is T8282 after i flashed the Telstra rom it become T8285.....but still not compatible of the NextG
The "H" is HSDPA and isnt 850 dependant. Just means that it goes to 7.2/2.0 which again isnt 850 dependant. NextG, like North America is 850mhz. You can have HSDPA on any 3G network (Optus, 3, Voda etc) which use 1800/2100 if im not mistaken?
8285 is the NextG/850 version. Nearly all Telstra-sold phones are 850 versions. Have to be very careful as they have different Radio Hardware
Hi guys,
I received word late yesterday from my contacts that Telstra will be supplying the HD2 exclusively for at least 2-3 months on the NextG network.
No word on pricing yet but I have got a loose release date! For us Aussies the wait isn't too great which is a bit of a surprise for me, I thought we'd wind up being last! So without further ado:
Just wanted to let you know we finally have an idea on the Touch HD2;
Touch HD 2 – Due for release mid - late January. Exclusive to Telstra for 2 - 3 months. Launching with Windows Mobile 6.5
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My name is already down for one, I can't wait!
I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?
CreepinJesus said:
I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?
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A NextG compatible version is what I am after so I am holding out for it.
Basically Telstra bloatware will be the only special thing on it haha. Which I'll remove with cooking my own ROM. And of course NextG compatibility.
Hopefully the main difference will be that it will have the 850 3G band, like the Touch HD did, which will make it useable on most of AT&T's 3G network in the US.
CreepinJesus said:
I guess anyone not on Telstra can just use an imported one... Blue Fly Mobile are selling them for $900 at the moment.
Do you know if the "official" Australian version will have anything special that a UK one, for example, doesn't have?
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Yea, a sweet US 3G radio.
it seems a telstra rom already leaked (841 is telstra rom code)
ftp://rom:[email protected]/Leo_HD2/Official/Leo_1.49.841.1_21869_WWE_OS.NB.rar
btw, what does it mean that the phone is only exclusive for 2-3 months? So for those 2-3mos, you can only get it through telstra (no e-retailers)? Can you get it sim-free during this time or after that time?
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btw, what does it mean that the phone is only exclusive for 2-3 months? So for those 2-3mos, you can only get it through telstra (no e-retailers)? Can you get it sim-free during this time or after that time?
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it simply means that in Australia, the Australian mobile phone networks like Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, T-mobile,etc will have to wait a few months before they can have the option of selling it on their networks.
you can still get the device anywhere else in the world unlocked and as long as the device has the right network frequencies for your SIM card then you'll be fine. there are slightly different HD2's made for the world markets, because not all countries use the same network frequencies (USA being the odd-man-out of the world)
i bought my HD2 from the UK (Handtech) delivered for Au $840. the frequencies are a match for my 3mobile SIM card and the device is "unlocked" so i don't have any bull**** about vendor locking and software bloat.
Telstra/AT&T
Please post here when it is available through on online retailer with the 850Mhz Band so that US buyers on AT&T can rejoice and spend some dough...
Thanks
Am I reading this correct that the HD2 will not work on NextG? Is there a fix for this?
tchoklat
I highly doubt a Telstra released 3G mobile wouldn't work on their NextG network, kinda defeats the point.
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Am I reading this correct that the HD2 will not work on NextG? Is there a fix for this?
tchoklat
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Because the HD2 runs on UMTS 900/2100MHz. You have to wait for HTC to release another model that's NextG compatible (runs 850/2100MHz UMTS) in early 2010.
damn, what do I do with my new phone then?
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damn, what do I do with my new phone then?
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use it as a $800 coaster.
or sell it.
I'm using the HD2 imported from overseas 2 weeks ago through one of those dodgy Australian online retailers (electronicbazaar.com.au) and I'm happily using my nextG simcard without problems.
The phone was shipped from HK.
I have no problems browsing or coverage but technically I shouldn't be getting access to the network.
I guess the question remains as to whether I'm accessing the nextG network or not. The carrier name is "3G 3Telstra" on the dialer and I get the "H" symbol come up on the phone. That looks good enough for me.
This information, plus p3ngwin's use of the phone on 3Mobile suggests it's not accurate to say that we can't use an unbranded Leo in Australia...
@tchoklat - have you tried using the phone yet with your NextG SIM?
Yes it fails to log on and I only see the odd 'G' or 'E' come up suggesting sporadic connection to the 3G network, not NextG. I understand that the 'H' means HSPDA or NextG
Tchoklat
le_paulo said:
I'm using the HD2 imported from overseas 2 weeks ago through one of those dodgy Australian online retailers (electronicbazaar.com.au) and I'm happily using my nextG simcard without problems.
The phone was shipped from HK.
I have no problems browsing or coverage but technically I shouldn't be getting access to the network.
I guess the question remains as to whether I'm accessing the nextG network or not. The carrier name is "3G 3Telstra" on the dialer and I get the "H" symbol come up on the phone. That looks good enough for me.
This information, plus p3ngwin's use of the phone on 3Mobile suggests it's not accurate to say that we can't use an unbranded Leo in Australia...
@tchoklat - have you tried using the phone yet with your NextG SIM?
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In a way you have access to Telstra 3G but not NextG. Read this http://www.austech.info/137073-post16.html
Telstra 3G = UMTS 2100 which provides 60% population coverage
Telstra NextG = UMTS 850 which provides 99% population coverage
I have a NextG sim when I was using my TP2 (the sim is my Leo now) and on my Leo I only get the EDGE network and no NextG.
Just what I have found as we have no or limited Edge where I live so the phone is basically useless. I have listed it on Ebay for anyone interested.
Ebay item number 110471705953
thanks all.
Tony
I'll tell you what, I have the unlocked import of the HD2 in the USA on at&t and the edge data on this phone seems as good as my last 3g phone. I think the speed of the phone is making up for it. Now of coarse, WITH the 3G coverage is another story but the edge is acceptable to me on this device.
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I'll tell you what, I have the unlocked import of the HD2 in the USA on at&t and the edge data on this phone seems as good as my last 3g phone. I think the speed of the phone is making up for it. Now of coarse, WITH the 3G coverage is another story but the edge is acceptable to me on this device.
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I have to agree with you there. I reckons it's good enough.
There are a couple of threads around at the moment that are eluding to a 850 MHz version of the Galaxy S. I'm currently using an original UK I9000 (900/2100 MHz) and am sick of the terrible service of 900 MHz carriers in Australia.
As such, when people start getting their hands on 850 MHz unlocked Galaxy S would they mind listing the following information.
- Reseller / Carrier (if they sell outright)
- Reseller / Carrier Shipping Destinations
- Price
- Firmware Version
- Locked / Unlocked
Semi-related, I contacted HTC Australia a couple of times when I was considering purchasing the Desire. HTC confirmed with me that all versions of the Desire are absolutely identical in terms of hardware. This confirmed the research I had performed that the HTC's/Nexus' radio chip has the ability to support both 850/900 MHz (not necessarily simultaneously). So it is definitely the case that flashing firmware onto your phone can convert a 900 MHz phone to a 850 MHz phone or vice versa. However, the firmware that needs to be flashed probably isn't directly flashable using standard android tools. You probably require physical access to the radio frequency chip to flash firmware onto the chip as well as corresponding firmware onto the phone. Where I'm going with all this is...
If we have any electronically inclined people on these forums, on top of the above information I would love to know if someone is willing to investigate whether it is possible to dump radio chip firmware from their 850 MHz device.
EDIT: I'll include the list of phones below.
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- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
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NOTE: The online store appears to only sell to customers so you definitely have to live in Canada in order to get the phone shipped to you.
check page 2 out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745476&page=2
New Zealand your neightbourd carries the 850 version straight off Samsung website, hopefully it's unlocked, as i'm planning to get a 850 as well
AllGamer said:
check page 2 out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745476&page=2
New Zealand your neightbourd carries the 850 version straight off Samsung website, hopefully it's unlocked, as i'm planning to get a 850 as well
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Thanks. I did notice that thread however, it's actually why I started this one. I just figured it would be a good idea to have a central place for people to upload information. So we can compare between resellers and learn a bit about the devices from each reseller once people get them in their hands.
I'm looking forward to see results from the New Zealand model, and Bell.
I'll try to pick up one tomorrow from Bell and see if it works, and if we can unlock it.
@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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sl8125 said:
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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inside the phone, after you take out the battery it's a GT-i9000M
firmware was something J?5 (forgot the middle letter)
the Euro/Asia version is GT-i9000
they actually finally revealed the updated page, 2 weeks ago it didn't have the Tech Spec yet
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
oh wow! i just noticed something that i overlooked previously
check this out!!!
UMTS + GSM(850/900/1800/1900MHz)
http://www.samsung.com/hk/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
that is the Asia version of the GT-i9000 (same as Euro) but!!! it has both the 850+900+1900 band, but missing the 2100 band (which i don't really care as in America we don't have much use for the 2100, 90% of the network in USA/Canada is 850+1900)
i'm on Fido...
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@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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sl8125 said:
@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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No idea about the CA model, but the NZ model is the same as the european just with the different radio bands but no ideas about when it will be released, I emailed samsung NZ asking about it but no response yet. All phones sold in NZ are unlocked even apples's iphone 4 which has an exclusive contract with vodafone here is sold unlocked.
interestingly enough the Asia version also has different radio than the NZ version, the NZ has 2100 band, but the Asia one doesn't in its place it keeps most of the lower bands
according to Wikipedia, seems like the only country that uses 2100 is Brazil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
why would cell phones sold in Europe/NZ ship with that band?
dunno...
anyways @ AllGamer, where are you in canada?
i get decent 3g coverage in the GTA...unless i'm in a basement and some houses...
also how's your gps?
works fine for me everywhere i've tested... haven't had any issues with locking
longest i've taken i think is like 30 seconds for a lock outdoors
and that was from a cold start after i flashed a new rom
- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
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interestingly enough the Asia version also has different radio than the NZ version, the NZ has 2100 band, but the Asia one doesn't in its place it keeps most of the lower bands
according to Wikipedia, seems like the only country that uses 2100 is Brazil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
why would cell phones sold in Europe/NZ ship with that band?
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for 3G
2100 is used here in NZ by vodafone but 2100 is used in loads of countries mainly through europe I think.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
and best way to get detailed info on what a country uses is here
http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=NEW+ZEALAND
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dunno...
anyways @ AllGamer, where are you in canada?
i get decent 3g coverage in the GTA...unless i'm in a basement and some houses...
also how's your gps?
works fine for me everywhere i've tested... haven't had any issues with locking
longest i've taken i think is like 30 seconds for a lock outdoors
and that was from a cold start after i flashed a new rom
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no problem as well, that's why i don't know why so many people are complaining about the GPS and "lag"
coming from Windows Mobile, this "lag" is nothing, GPS takes average 5~15 sec to pick up depending on weather, my old phone it takes 5 min to 1 hour to pick up
and waiting for the Windows software to load was always like an eternity, that's why iphone got so famous, because windows mobiles devices have always been slow, and i'm sure it will continue to be slow even with the same CPU, cuz my old phone was a 625Mhz CPU, and still didn't cut it, i OCed it to 650Mhz and it was not much better, but definitely noticeable... anyways.... the SGS i9000 is a dream to use.
GTA as well, 3G is mostly fine in most areas, but sometimes when you are down in the subway (the stations with open tunnels) it can't pick up 3G only G or Edge, and some parking lots
it is more a concern about traveling as, drive around Ontario/Quebec quite a bit, having the 850 band is a safety & bonus.
so if the new one from Bell works, i'll sell the UK i9000 version (sill in stock firmware but rooted)
thanks for the info man.
is that a demo one, or you purchased it already?
the past 2 days i've been trying to buy one to study it in detail, with no luck, as the sales guys didn't want to sell me their "demo" units
MKVFTW said:
- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
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Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
Dandarebr said:
Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
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So most people in Brasil will never be able to afford it then or do you have 20 year contracts over there with carriers?
TV... meh, I think most people just stream tv/movies now on demand..
Dandarebr said:
Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
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that is the Korea version, the Korean version comes with the DTV
but wow! at $1400 that's a bit too much, specially for people living in Brazil
AllGamer said:
that is the Korea version, the Korean version comes with the DTV
but wow! at $1400 that's a bit too much, specially for people living in Brazil
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I think you will find brasil is getting a version with tv also.
or are you just meaning they are getting the same model?
I still cant get over that price though.. seems insane....
I am moving to Australia from the UK and want to know what ROM you recommend
Any rom you like should be fine. But maybe the modem will have an effect. I used JPE for a while qith good results. And JVO and JVP at the moment. But others here will know much better than me.
Possibly, if you end up on our Telstra network and if your phone is able to use the correct band, you may need a specific one to access their Next G network. I think it may be the JL2 modem.
Actually, I don't know if all the Galaxy phones have the frequency available to use on that network. I think it's 850mhz. Maybe someone else could let me know if they all have the ability to use it, but have to have the right modem to use it.
I am currently using JVP with the ZSJPG modem. I have found that the JPg modem gives me great battery life with good reception too.
you can choose any rom
the only diffrent is in the battry life and the modem that you can
change.
You probably don't need to change anything. If you choose telstra as your carrier then you may need to flash an 850 compatible modem.
Also if you don't wish to enter the APN manually you could flash a CSC which includes Australian details.
I am personally running stock JVP 2.3.4 with XSA CSC. Nice and fast with brilliant battery life. The XSA CSC is also pre-configured for ALL Australian service providers.
I have used Juwe's and Criskelo both JVO and JVP without any problems.
My wife is using Simply Honey 3.6.1 and loves it, with no FC and great battery and Signal.
I would recommend all of them for Battery, signal and sound quality.
thanks for all the replies so it looks like I don't need to worry too much then.
Most roms and modems from 2.1 onwards work quite well here in Sydney.
Currently on Symply GS2 and have amazing reception and 3g speeds.
GPS is great.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Only thing to add is that you shouldn't count on 850 access even with a new modem file.
I just moved from UK to NZ and was told my UK phone wouldn't support 850 from a hardware perspective. Don't know if that its true as I've never tried it, but check your phone before choosing that provider! The rest of the providers, all use 900 etc should be fine without any new files.
I ended up keeping my UK Galaxy S on the stock UK firmware (they get released quicker anyway!) and manually typed in the apn settings for my provider. (I just avoided the provider here that used 850.)
Hope this helps. Good luck with the move.
Mike
Garbled meaning induced by swype when posting from XDA app on SGS I9000.
Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
Baseband troubles with Defy MB525 - partial solution - and questions
Eman Leerton said:
Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
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I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
bob.teatow said:
I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
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I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
Update - MB525 Tmobile Melrose MA seeing HSPA
Antiga Prime said:
I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
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I'm visiting Melrose MA today and I'm seeing an HSPA signal! Still with the "China" settings...
Speedtest.net says I got:
Code:
Date,ConnType,Lat,Lon,Download,Upload,Latency,ServerName,InternalIp,ExternalIp
"2013-06-21 15:32","Hspa","42.45245","-71.06685",1388,988,282,"Boston, MA","10.230.130.121","83.137.2.146"
"2013-06-20 07:49","Edge","41.33962","-73.37708",198,112,467,"Secaucus, NJ","10.230.142.199","83.137.2.147"
While the "Network Signal Info" app says I'm HSPA at 14.4 Mbps, I guess that's a max.
Soo... this is good, but I'm still curious -- how can I determine which band(s) the radio is operating on?
According to Wikipedia, T-mobile runs HSPA on the 1900Mhz band in some areas and 1700/2100 in others...
Since I set my radio to 850/1900/2100 - my first guess is I've wandered into a 1900/1900 HSPA zone...
My connection is to CID13693382 / LAC 36498 MCC-MNC 310-260 Is there a database where I can find out what frequencies are assigned to this cell tower for T-mobile? Lots of location/map services - but I didn't find any info about baseband allocations in this area...
Hmmm... Let's try switching the baseband to the T-mobile USA 6.x settings...
Same result as in CT, no service, no joy ;-(
Do the T-Mobile USA settings work for anyone watching this board?