While I appreciate all that the modding/hacking community has done for us I and a few others will admit to feeling quite left out when we are using a Mac of some sort.
It seems quite dumb and weird to use an unstable platform such as windows to flash a sensitive device such as the Galaxy Tab.
Yes we know that there is Parallels and Boot Camp but again that is using a unsafe foundation for a sensitive operation.
Will there be any NATIVE tools for the Apple users soon that have the exact same features and uses?
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While I appreciate all that the modding/hacking community has done for us I and a few others will admit to feeling quite left out when we are using a Mac of some sort.
It seems quite dumb and weird to use an unstable platform such as windows to flash a sensitive device such as the Galaxy Tab.
Yes we know that there is Parallels and Boot Camp but again that is using a unsafe foundation for a sensitive operation.
Will there be any NATIVE tools for the Apple users soon that have the exact same features and uses?
KEEP THE COMMENTS CLEAN OR JUST GO AWAY PLEASE. WE WANT THIS TO BE A FRIENDLY TOPIC!
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windows is not unstable.
there's heimdall which u can use to flash your tab.
Digiguest said:
While I appreciate all that the modding/hacking community has done for us I and a few others will admit to feeling quite left out when we are using a Mac of some sort.
It seems quite dumb and weird to use an unstable platform such as windows to flash a sensitive device such as the Galaxy Tab.
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As has been previously mentioned, Heimdall is available on OS/X, so you didn't really research this topic too well before posting!
Having said that, whilst I have 3 Macs, I still prefer to use Odin on Windows, and I thoroughly disagree that Windows is unstable. It can be made to be unstable, true, but a well maintained an administered Windows system (especially x64) can be very stable indeed!
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I apologize then. I am not a fanboy of anysort I just do not trust Windows that much anymore due to issues with it. My apologies if I offended anyone with my "views".
When I searched for OSX Software for some odd reason this "Heimdall" did not show up. Guess I put the incorrect parameters in.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Just be a bit more friendly next time instead of asking people to go away when asking for help. Or you could do a search first before posting.
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And remove that big red letters, please
Yes that big red lettering is ignorant. Also, your a MAC user. The OS is MAC not Apple...
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Just be a bit more friendly next time instead of asking people to go away when asking for help. Or you could do a search first before posting.
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Hmm....that WAS friendly....and I did do a search. Please read the other replies and you will see that.
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And remove that big red letters, please
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Sorry but it is the only way to get the point across. Apologies. However I did narrow it down a little.
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Yes that big red lettering is ignorant. Also, your a MAC user. The OS is MAC not Apple...
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Does not matter.....you got what I meant right? Sorry if it offended you in some way.
I use Odin from a Windows 7 virtual machine within Parallels, it runs fine.
I'm also running OS X, but not on Apple hardware, as my system is roughly equivalent to the most powerful system they offer (as far as CPU/GPU anyway), but built for about 1/4 of the price. I don't want to pay the premium mainly because the hardware has their logo on it, but the OS is fantastic.
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I use Odin from Windows 7 virtual machine within Parallels, it runs fine.
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It is a consideration I have been playing with.....but to purchase Windows 7 AND Parallels....I dunno.
Thank you though. Appreciate the response.
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Also, your a MAC user. The OS is MAC not Apple...
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Technically he said "Apple users" never mentioning any OS, and considering that Mac OS X runs only on Apple hardware (or hardware pretending to be Apple like for the relatively rare hackintosh users) he's quite correct. On the other hand a MAC is a Media Access Code and not a short version of Macintosh...
That said: yeah, Heimdall. Requires a restart since it installs a kernel extension, but it works well.
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Exist any WM6.1 ROM for HTC Dream ? Please dont ask me why I need this.
Thanks.
No, not going to happen, been asked many, many, many times already.
why not ? where is the problem to cook non official ROM ?
For one, its a waste of a perfectly good phone to put that CRAP on it. If you want a piece of crap, buy a piece of crap.
Second, the required drivers simply don't exist.
What do you men crap ? OK, the second explanation is better.
I think lbcoder got it right. windows mobile IS Junk. I have a Kaiser in addition to the G1. The Kaiser has great hardware minus the KB, small screen, and quiet speaker, but it has a horrific OS e.g. It's slow, locks up, restarts itself for no reason.
The G1 however has a great OS that needs little or no changing at all, but dumbed down hardware.
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Exist any WM6.1 ROM for HTC Dream ? Please dont ask me why I need this.
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Since your question is completely asinine I'm going to ask you why you need this: Why do you need this?
Edit: Oh and You're Welcome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429808
Bottom line is if you want WinMo, buy a WinMo phone. Most of the hackers working on HTC Dream are working on Android.
Oh yeah and use the search.
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For one, its a waste of a perfectly good phone to put that CRAP on it. If you want a piece of crap, buy a piece of crap.
Second, the required drivers simply don't exist.
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I concur. I couldn't imagine going to winmo after being blessed with android.
he he he he....
I guess we want what we don't have? Many folk are working on porting Android to our WM devices.... Maybe it's just the challenge of it all?
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he he he he....
I guess we want what we don't have? Many folk are working on porting Android to our WM devices.... Maybe it's just the challenge of it all?
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Now that I think about it; I sure wouldn't mind the ability to dual boot. Not even sure why but maybe just for that hell of it.
Makes no sense
I had the T-mobile Dash before the G1 and wound up giving the dash to my wife. I was helping her learn to use it and only then did I realise how goofy the setup of it all is. They say the beauty of it is that it tries to emulate the Windows experience, but if my desktop worked like that...I'ld have a mac.
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I had the T-mobile Dash before the G1 and wound up giving the dash to my wife. I was helping her learn to use it and only then did I realise how goofy the setup of it all is. They say the beauty of it is that it tries to emulate the Windows experience, but if my desktop worked like that...I'ld have a mac.
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Best post in this thread. Completely true and funny as hell.
That being said I'm STILL excited to see what WinMo 7 brings to the table.
Will there be any Windows Phone 7 Series for the Nexus one?
Would be nice to test the new OS on a phone. Hope some of XDA's talented developers would look in to this when the time is right
one word: no.
Windows Mobile sucks....sucks hard....
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Windows Mobile sucks....sucks hard....
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+1000000
I hope someone pulls through and does it, althought we are short one hardware key to match up the win7 requirements.
I don't really see it being an issue getting on here, alot of the hardware will be on other phones so drivers should be around.
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Windows Mobile sucks....sucks hard....
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Yes Winmo sucks, but I hope the new 7 series will do something with this, and if it becomes a good mobile OS i don't want to buy a new phone.. I love my N1 and i think it could be fun to play with.
As far as becoming a good mobile OS, it's not off to a good start. No multitasking, no copy/paste, and today I saw someone say that Microsoft has disallowed development of applications that rival native applications. Seriously, are they retarded? Those are some of the worst things people complained about with the iphone.
First let me say thank you to the xda community. I have enjoyed several android rom on my HD2 and will continue to support and test roms hoping to make a permanent transition one day.
Now on to the meat of the thread. Since there are still several flaws in most builds still why not create a app that shuts down or suspends the session of android os without having a power cycle or hard reboot. This would allow the use to take full advantage of both OS surly making it the ultimate device.
Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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Think its a pretty valid question. This would be good but don't think it is possible as Android can't access NAND yet and I'm guessing thats where the windows Kernal is so don't think it's possible. I may be totally wrong tho.
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Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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This is pathetic comment..
BTW for TS (thread starter) u post on the wrong section, there's question section..
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Jammie_1989 said:
Think its a pretty valid question. This would be good but don't think it is possible as Android can't access NAND yet and I'm guessing thats where the windows Kernal is so don't think it's possible. I may be totally wrong tho.
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I thought the android os is already running on top of the windows mobile OS making the phone a virtual machine.
No. It shuts down wimno when haret is loaded.
In theory, it's a great idea...but it's not really possible
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I thought the android os is already running on top of the windows mobile OS making the phone a virtual machine.
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Nah, when you run Android, Windows Mobile shuts down completely...Windows Mobile is just used to initialise some of the hardware first
linux virtual machine?
Thanks for helping me clear that up.
i was hoping for a meld of the two os like a virtual machine.
Since our beloved Evo and HD2 share similar hardware... Shouldnt we be able to fork out a working version of Windows Phone if the HD2 does get a working booting image?
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There would be a problem with radios since WP7 is just GSM at the moment.
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Yeah I could understand that. But I believe it wouldnt hurt to try throwing on our phone and see what happens.
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wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
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wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
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Lol you don't even want to try it? I do!
richardrk said:
Since our beloved Evo and HD2 share similar hardware... Shouldnt we be able to fork out a working version of Windows Phone if the HD2 does get a working booting image?
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I think most devs discarded the idea due to licensing issues...
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wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
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Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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That sounds like Communist talk. You red?
I wouldn't mind a WM7 skin. But I have my Xbox for Xbox Live...I don't really play the arcade type games, so I wouldn't have use of Xbox Live on my phone...unless you can put Reach, Tier 1, Crysis 2 or MW2 on a cell phone...with good jitter/ping/lag/etc.
Count me in for a wp7 port.
Ironically some proponents of openness only possess openness in their phones and not their minds. I'd like to see it happen just to see it happen.
Yah I would like to try out wp7 on the evo. I don't think the games would run as good as a real wp7 device.
That sounds like Communist talk. You red?
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HAHAHAHAHHA
quote of the fracking day right there boys and girls... quote of the fra-cking day!
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Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
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Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
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What does WM have to do with WP or Android? Android's open source nature is still being abused by both OEMs and carriers.
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What does WM have to do with anything? Android's open source nature is still being abused by both OEMs and carriers.
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I was responding to that users post.
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Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
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Yeah WM is definitely buggy but WP7 is supposed to be not buggy and much more fluid.
I just like it for its xbox live integration and gaming features.
I just want to have it just to say. "I have an HTC EVO with android 2.2 that can look like an Iphone, run Ubuntu, play nice with Windows 7, float like a butterfly and sting like a bee" lol
WP7 UI is hideous in my opinion.
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WP7 UI is hideous in my opinion.
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Yeah you are right...the home page is kinda crappy looking...the other UI's look nice once you move away from the home page.
I just want the gaming part.....since Android is lacking in the gaming dept....
I just can't understand why everyone is going crazy and we don't even have a working unit or a full review. It's supposedly supposed to drop this fall but not even one unit?
I think it is rushed and they are trying to get in the game and secure a position. WM platform was dreadful for me hopefully this changes with WP7.
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Kind of off topic, but I'm just curious to know if anyone's tried out the Windows 8 developer preview. I'm trying it right now, and it's honestly not that bad. Some things still need work, but it's definitely something I could get use to.
I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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Yes, and if you really want to get a feel for it lifehacker has an article showing how to share files between the Windows 7 and 8 partitions.
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I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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I havn't tried it yet, trying to get it to work with vmware.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516
I thew it on my 4 year old cheap laptop and after figuring out how to navigate the start menu I really like how fast it is. Only problem is I can't seem to be able to install .net framework, hence phonemypc won't work (I wanted to test drive metro ui on my epic since its touchscreen optimized) I'm gonna keep it on my laptop until the beta expires but I'm sad to say that I want a windows 8 tablet waaaaay more than even an ice cream tablet.
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Yeah I'm using it on a partition on my brand-new laptop. I really like it actually!
Metro UI is a bit to get used to, but I love using the touchpad multi-touch controls to navigate from panel-mode to the standard desktop, bootup is much faster, and I can share files fine between my regular Win7 partition and the Windows 8 partition.
@xopher.hunter, I had an issue with .NET 3.5, but it installed fine after a restart. YMMV...
I bought a Touchpad during the fire sale, and have yet to receive it from HP Small Business (have to wait for the last production run), but I wanna put Win8 on it when the ARM build gets out.
Im waiting for a windows 8 tablet to come out
I do NOT like the UI for desktops :/
WIndows 7 for my PC, windows 8 for tablet.
fk yeah.
Microsoft killed all of my interest in an android tablet when they revealed the metro ui windows 8. PERFECT TABLET OS (atleast based on what ive seen, it has all the right things.)
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actually...i just remembered in a previous video they didnt have metro ui on and it looked like windows 7...so i might just give it a shot if i can take the skin off..
Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?
Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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wut
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Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?
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Its this 10 dollar app in the market, yes it is a remote desktop client but very well done and very simple to set up. Its a freaking life saver if you forget something on your computer.
I still haven't been able to install .net 3.5.1, I even dl'd the standalone but it still wanted to use microsoft update to install, and I rebooted it too. Oh well this is why I put this on my old ass laptop. Runs like a champ though only on 1.86ghz and 1.5gb of ram it seems ready for tablets alredy.
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I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.
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I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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Idk. Maybe because they think it looks better than just a plain list, but now they're more interested in eye candy than functionality. Why can't we have both.
On the other topic, I would like to try windows 8, but it's not really useful for me since I have a 1024x600 netbook, so Metro Apps don't work. I've tried the hack that makes resolution higher on Windows 7, but it looks horrible with that.
my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive
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my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive
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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)
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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)
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Thanks. lucky me I found a dvd-rw
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265
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WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265
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I dont think thats true. I dont think they can run Windows 7 apps, but I think they can run any app built for 8 or just windows for arm in general.
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But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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True, but I have my trackpad customized with a bunch of additional gestures, so if I just tap the top left corner of my trackpad, it shows spotlight.