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EVO2 Next June

I'm guessing weve seen the likely template for the Evo2 in the HTC Desire HD?

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No way. Thats what I heard to from this site. Its the new Evo in 2011
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/htc-evo-....../

LOL... this thread is pathetic... I'm 150% sure that HTC is not planning on using the Desire HD as a template for a phone that is coming out 9 months from now (if even). There is no such thing as a phone being a template for another... period.

WHAAAT lol? Havent you wondered about the Evo2?
These choices of HTC in terms of Sense and especially Gui/processor (not the Desire hardware for Gods sake) to me begin to paint a picture.

Um...guys...the Desire HD is the world version of the EVO with HTC's latest software builds onboard, so no it is not in any way shape or form a successor device it is a sibling of the EVO. This is well known and publicized.
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I okaaaay! Template is wrong word.
Im interested in what kind of upgrades might be in store for an Evo2.... and these kind of improvements begin to help.
That ok?!

My guess would be a S/AMOLED, improved 4G radio, and of course better CPU/memory/ROM/cams.

dallashigh said:
My guess would be a S/AMOLED, improved 4G radio, and of course better CPU/memory/ROM/cams.
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I think it would probably be SLCD instead of AMOLED given what happened with the Incredible and Desire. Whatever it'll be, I'm looking forward to it.

Samsung has everyone locked out of super AMOLED screens for like 18 months or something so it won't be that.

I know this may be off topic a bit but I know my next phone will have to have a screen equal to or larger than the Evo.
Everytime I hold a different phone it's just sad. So hopefully the Evo 2 looks like an iPad with Android

sintricate said:
I know this may be off topic a bit but I know my next phone will have to have a screen equal to or larger than the Evo.
Everytime I hold a different phone it's just sad. So hopefully the Evo 2 looks like an iPad with Android
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That folds up in 4's to the size of the Evo. While its folded up it can be used for texting, phone calls, and things we already do. Unfold all sides and you have a tablet with android.. Oh and there is zero creases in the screen when unfolding/folding.
And I definitely agree, I want a phone of similar size now that Iv had the Evo.

The "EVO 2" will be nothing like what is currently available. I suspect that we'll see the "EVO 2" come with 768MB - 1GB of RAM, 4+ inch display, dual core processor with a crazy GPU, and hopefully (please), a higher resolution display to take advantage of the big screen.

HTC is big on constantly putting out gradual and incremental updates. The new Desires are a small bump up from the Evo in specs and probably by next year, the next Sprint phone along the lines of the Evo will probably be a small bump up from that. The nice thing is that every year, these little upgrades have added up to something worth buying to replace your current phone.

4.3 or 4.5" would be the limit of being portable. Look at the Dell Streak if you want a reality check. The screen resolution can go up and S-LCD will be the screen. Retina display or the likes will be the push. Aluminum bodies like the Desire HD seems likely. They will probably thin out the phone and push Dual Core processors. 32GB next year will be the standard with 64GB being the step up. Hopefully by then they will push the audio/video through micro-sd a little more to get that standard down. It's being worked on now.

neodorian said:
HTC is big on constantly putting out gradual and incremental updates. The new Desires are a small bump up from the Evo in specs and probably by next year, the next Sprint phone along the lines of the Evo will probably be a small bump up from that. The nice thing is that every year, these little upgrades have added up to something worth buying to replace your current phone.
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+ isn't as buggy as the other crap on the market. They learn from their mistakes and fix them in future releases. unlike samsung, who just releases and ditches.

The next EVO is going to be a 5" tube with a speaker on top and the mic at the bottom. It won't have a battery but will use a fuel cell that you only have to refill once a month. To see the screen you unroll the tube to use the 7x5 display. It will have 4GB of ram and a 1TB mem card, not to mention a Core i9 CPU.

wow...hilarius man...yeah...uhh really funny (that was Brian from Family Guy sorry)
In the process they also obviously have to address the two major criticisms of the Evo: 1. Battery life and 2. Fps cap.
GaryJ51 said:
The next EVO is going to be a 5" tube with a speaker on top and the mic at the bottom. It won't have a battery but will use a fuel cell that you only have to refill once a month. To see the screen you unroll the tube to use the 7x5 display. It will have 4GB of ram and a 1TB mem card, not to mention a Core i9 CPU.
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rockky said:
I'm guessing weve seen the likely template for the Evo2 in the HTC Desire HD?
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Your on one.
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Think I'm going to be...

leaving android behind
Got an upgrade for a phone that I haven't used, and this thing just looks amazing
http://www.phones-online.org/phones...hones/new-htc-touch-hd3-picture-exposure.html
Unfortunately it will run wp7, which tears my heart out that it doesn't have android. Hopefully there will be someone that will root it and be able to install android on it since android is open source.
Pretty much identical to the evo with a better processor, .2 bigger screen, amoled display, 16gb internal storage with 32gb support of sd card, 1gb ram (vs 512mb on evo).
Camera will be probably as ****ty as evo, but it still lacks android. idk how well wp7 will perform but from what i've seen android is a lot better in my mind.
Might wait a few months after it's release to see if it gets rooted and droided to buy it. Even with hardware specs, I don't think I could make a move to wp7 from android.

wow, definitely too bad that's for winmo
Surely a comparable (or better) EVO successor won't be too far off

C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.

firemedic1343 said:
C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
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uhm yes there is. amoled > lcd, up to 48gb of data, 2x amount of ram (meaning more 3d apps, and faster performing phone), and as we know the .3 inch on screen makes a HUGE difference, another .2 will be killer, and the processor is newer (still snapdraggon but newer).
It's like taking all the good things about an evo, and then taking all the good things about epic and putting it together, plus some more. If this phone is released and not just another rumor, it would kill iphone4. Same hardware specs pretty much plus bigger screen, and 4g. Then all the iphone4 fan boys will stop jacking off at the sight of their phone.
The only minus is wp7, but i'm pretty sure that some dev is going to figure a way to run android on it. An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense. Meaning that someone will be able to port the same exact rom as htc stock to it, but this might or might not happen.

IMO Android will see a similar device. Hopefully Sprint picks it up.
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Just got home a short time ago. While on the road with my EVO on the dash, it faithfully told me where I was going, allowed me to make/recieve calls via hands free bluetooth, all while streaming my music library from my server at home over 3g using Subsonic.
Yeah, sure, I can't wait to ditch this piece of crap for the latest piece of bling.
Win 7 Mobile. Multitasking???

Last-Chance said:
An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense.
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Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.

HondaCop said:
Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
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it's not open source per say, but with the right kernel it can be packaged into the phone.
And as for multi tasking, it does offer it. you can have multiple first party apps running. It's just limiting the 3rd party apps from running because of battery issues. I've talked to multiple people that have tested out wp7 and they say battery is conserved REALLY well by doing this. Cutting down on third party apps draining battery. And that htc has a smaller battery than the evo, but i bet the one on hd3 lasts longer.
But this all doesn't matter since I'm not looking to get wp7. You guys took me as if I was supporting wp7. The hardware would do wonders for android, hence why i want to see a port before i buy it.
BUT then again, from some sources that have told me that you will be able to play xbox arcade games on it which use some AMAZING 3d graphics for a phone, versus android which has well pretty ****ty 3d games.
and as far as navigating and calling goes, you will be able to accomplish that easily. And stream music, just not from subsonic.

It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.

Award Tour said:
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
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the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI

Last-Chance said:
the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
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I'm 99% sure it's fake. That photo has been circulating around for a very long time now. If the CPU spec is faked, so is the rest of it. With the HD3 expect nothing more than the Desire HD but with more storage -- maybe a update to the single core 1.3 GHz CPU.

Besides, it ain't about what kind of tool you have, it's all about how you use it!

it's not fake, but it isn't what it should be. Did some digging around and found this.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
Well guess it wont be for sprint since it states gsm and crap. no cdma =/. + evo sized screen + only 8gb built in + kick stand looks cheap and gay. Only plus side is that its amoled

lol that kick stand looks horrible to me

Ahh this is nothing more than a
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Samsung Galaxy S2 Specs (2GHz, 1GB RAM, etc.)

Source: http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-specs-will-blow-your-brains-out/
The current generation of smartphones – with their 1GHz processors and 512MB of RAM – are already very impressive at what they can do. But rumored specifications (along with a photo) are spreading of the next generation of Samsung’s Galaxy S smartphone – the Galaxy S2 – and its specs will. freaking. blow. your. head. off.
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It is supposedly scheduled for release sometime in early 2011 and will supposedly have the following specifications:
-A 2GHz Processor. Possibly the next-generation version of Samsung’s Hummingbird CPU.
-1GB RAM along with 4GB of ROM. This is, as with the CPU, twice the magnitude of current-gen hardware.
-32GB built-in flash memory. MicroSD card slot expandable to 32GB making the Galaxy S2 able to hold 64GB of data.
-8 megapixel camera with full HD (1920×1080) video recording. Current-gen smartphones record video at 720p (1280×720).
-A 4.3” 1280×720 Super AMOLED display
-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, b/g/n Wi-Fi, accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity / ambient light sensors.
-Run on Android 3.0 “Gingerbread”
While all these specifications are well and sweet, I really, honestly believe smartphone manufacturers, especially of the Android variety, should focus on increasing battery life by optimizing hardware + software instead of just blindly increasing clock speeds and doubling RAM. My HTC Desire still doesn’t last more than 15-16 hours whereas Taimur’s iPhone 4 blows past the 24 hour category without even going below 50%.
And yes, these specs are rumored. But if HTC and Motorola’s intentions of releasing 2GHz smartphones are anything to go by, they aren’t unbelievable.
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What do you guys think the battery quality will be?

Jesus, its only 8 threads under this
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817358

Doubting this, especially if scheduled for early 2011.
Specs looks two gen ahead of current, but if for real, I like it...well, except for the 4.3in screen.

I fail. Delete thread please.

I don't care until they actually give me froyo.

I don't know it sounds more like someones dreams/wish someone had more then a matter of fact...can anyone confirm that Samsung will be releasing Galaxy S2 at all?

they do love dangling the proverbial carrot in front of us don't they?
seriously though, why would you ever need dual core phones? I understand it's the next logical step, but I don't plan on bit torrenting HD porn from my phone. The original Galaxy still seems plenty new and amazing enough for me to not care about another phone for at least a year.

SeanFloyd said:
they do love dangling the proverbial carrot in front of us don't they?
seriously though, why would you ever need dual core phones? I understand it's the next logical step, but I don't plan on bit torrenting HD porn from my phone. The original Galaxy still seems plenty new and amazing enough for me to not care about another phone for at least a year.
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Someone posted this elsewhere yesterday and those were my exact thoughts on it. I mean I get it but is that something necessary (if it were actually true) for the near future? We haven't even hit 6 months with this beast yet.
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bdveteran18 said:
Someone posted this elsewhere yesterday and those were my exact thoughts on it. I mean I get it but is that something necessary (if it were actually true) for the near future? We haven't even hit 6 months with this beast yet.
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You can't never have too much speed on a phone. Flash contents need quite a bit of CPU and GPU power, emulators will benefit from this, Browsing Speed, Multitasking, etc.
It can't hurt to have the phone boot up faster either.

OMG this again....dud research its beeen posted few down from you......
its fake this rumor started July 5 and people are just blogging...ect of late for attention or they have been living under a rock last few months
Also you would think with these guys bringing up such an old rumor/news they would have something else to go on other than repeating what already been said almost 4 months prior.
You guys really think specs for a new galaxy S would "leak" just few weeks after its predecessor's release...just my opinion

I'd have to agree with the quote in the op though. Instead of doubling the specs, phone manufacturers should work on increasing battery life. The iphone doesn't have ridiculous specs but still manages to do nearly everything android phones do and do it smoother while still lasting a full day.
I don't really need my phone to do much more than it currently does. It matches the iphone in 3d smoothness which is great.. Now I just need it to open and close apps smoother and last a full day. The g2 does it with less ghz, so it should be possible with the vibrants current 1ghz processor.
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allthrottle said:
I'd have to agree with the quote in the op though. Instead of doubling the specs, phone manufacturers should work on increasing battery life. The iphone doesn't have ridiculous specs but still manages to do nearly everything android phones do and do it smoother while still lasting a full day.
I don't really need my phone to do much more than it currently does. It matches the iphone in 3d smoothness which is great.. Now I just need it to open and close apps smoother and last a full day. The g2 does it with less ghz, so it should be possible with the vibrants current 1ghz processor.
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G2 does it with less mhz/ghz is because it is on a 45 nm fabrication vs. vibrant's 65 nm fabrication. The smaller the more efficient.

PaiPiePia said:
G2 does it with less mhz/ghz is because it is on a 45 nm fabrication vs. vibrant's 65 nm fabrication. The smaller the more efficient.
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The Hummingbird is 45nm also
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a10010&c=samsung_s5pc110
CPU probably handles 800mhz at a really low voltages and found it to be the sweet spot that also conserves battery life
And to answer why its faster well maybe its designed better, such as better cache and maybe some type of "hyper threading" technique....that would explain the extra pipelines on the scorpion ...raw speed isn't always everything
BTW this is all just a guess so dont hold me to this..i know PC's not so much this

HTC vs Epic why???

This might not be the right fourm but could someone please tell me why HTC phones are twice as fast than the Epic on linpack? I've tried a EVO and a Droid Incredible, both get a score of 32.500! Why?

Because JIT is optimized for Snapdragon processors, you see more performance boosts with those phones. However, mere benchmarks do not translate to real world performance whatsoever. My Epic is faster than any phone that's out there. Never go by benchmarks, lot of them are as useless as the Windows Experience Index crap. Our phones have the better hardware, when official Froyo is out and devs get the source, you'll see how powerful it really is.

Because linpack performance does not equal real life performance.... I also recall reading that linpack has not been optimized for the epic's processor. However, try 30 seconds using an evo and compare it to the epic and you'll have your actual answer
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I think they are a 128 bit system versus 64 bit. But all I hear from evo user is the epic is faster
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nimaim said:
Because JMy Epic is faster than any phone that's out there.
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Just like cars, there's always someone faster...I think it is pure ignorance to state you alone have the fastest phone in the whole world. *shrug* For me my user experience is awesome and i know firsthand that benchmarks don't tell the whole story and can be faked. With tmpfs and a little knowhow anyone can 3000+ on quadrant.
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I didn't mean to come across as arrogant. I didn't mean I alone have the fastest phone in the world at all. I meant with everything that's out in terms of OC'd kernels, Epic owners in general have faster phones than practically any other out there (currently). Benchmarks are not high, but that does not translate to real world performance which is what I was getting at.

Essentially what has been said before: Linpack has been compiled and optimized for the other processor. Someone has to write code for each specific processor in order for it to take advantage of each one's architecture. Back when Intel's Nahalem chips came out, similar results were observed (I used to build HPC clusters).

Try nenamark1. The epic smokes the evo in that test
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Simple, linpack is a test checking for raw CPU power via floating points..Snapdragon has a thing called a VFP which is a Floating Point Accelerator...
Aka instead of checking raw CPU power of the CPU..your checking how fast the the VFP processes floating points lol..
To give an example, its like one person actually taking a test, while the other is copying off an answer sheet..who will be the fastest?

If you go by benchmarks that have not had their code optimized for the Snapdragon, where it is more apples to apples (it will never be completely apples to apples), the Hummingbirds generally come out on top.
Plus, if you look at gaming, the FPS on the Hummingbird is much faster. Of course, CPU and graphics benchmarks are quite different.

It has a keyboard

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I'm pretty new to android phones but I did my homework before i decided on my epic. My wife wanted the Evo for the larger MP camera and bigger screen so we ended up with one of each. Form the time i've spent on my wife's evo and the time she has spent with my Epic we both have to agree that the Epic preforms far better in realworld test. The scrolling is smother and it has a better overall experience than the evo. So forget about benchmarks... just try one head to head and you'll see which one is the better device..

I've said this before and will say it again. My rooted evo with cm6 and oced to 1.12 ghz isn't as smooth as my epic was out the box. My evo gets 1500 on quadrent while my epic gets 1100 with no jit. Now you tell me wich phone is faster?
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gTen said:
To give an example, its like one person actually taking a test, while the other is copying off an answer sheet..who will be the fastest?
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The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.

Facepalm...
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The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.
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...your assuming he is copying from the other persons answer sheet and not the teacher's answer sheet...must we really get into this? >.> lol
Either way thats the reason...

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The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.
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Winner by TKO.

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Squirel aids!

Damn! HTC One benchmark

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-benchmarks-off-the-charts-19270000/
Wow!

This score really tempting me to make an upgrade with my phone, the only one missing is the water an dust proof.
Warm regards from Indonesia in my Motorola Galaxy s3

more
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-benchmark-scores-are-here-ready-to-blow-your-mind/
what does Benchmark Pi test, thats the one that shows huge difference between the S4pro on XZ, Rest are barely anything for me personally. I think some had held back by chrome on the XZ.

all these benchmarks are looking incredible

i cant freaking wait till source is out for the kernel

OVER 9000!
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Way over! Damn!

Htc one got 12000+
SKYDRAGON, El M1

Things I am more interested about --
1] Geekbench
2] GLbenchmark
3] Kraken, Octane, Peacekeeper
I thought people stopped using Quadrant long back. Apparently I was very wrong

Zarboz said:
i cant freaking wait till source is out for the kernel
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Hey Zarboz you planning on getting one of these?
btw I usually would put more emphasis on touch responsiveness and UI smoothness/consistent framerate as compared to benchmark scores However benchmark scores of this phone do show that it is in a whole other class compared to any other phone out right now... but I guess it is the first of the next generation, just like the One X was
We'll have to see what the rest are like, especially the GS4

For sure sg4 will be plastic as usually, with a bunch of stuff like multi windows, s vocie and so on that i turn off, just to save battery. Really, samy does it cheaper... Also twz is ugly and boring.
Or wait to X Moto phone
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Maximum can get quadrant benchmark on my s3 just around 8k
Htc one too powerful, big thanks to s600 new processor always better than old processor lol
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Those are really high numbers. I'm assuming some sort of custom rom, and /or over clocked? The M7 is running pre released stock sense, I wonder what an over clocked kernel running custom or AOSP would give!
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3D benchmarks.....all these get boring when the GPUs power is not fully shown for a game freak like me.....those front speakers with gaming:what::what::what: can't wait.
Gamers leegoooo
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I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/

XeactorZ said:
Maximum can get quadrant benchmark on my s3 just around 8k
Htc one too powerful, big thanks to s600 new processor always better than old processor lol
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And some people on YouTube's comment section say its 'just a little better that S3' LOL!

strip419 said:
3D benchmarks.....all these get boring when the GPUs power is not fully shown for a game freak like me.....those front speakers with gaming:what::what::what: can't wait.
Gamers leegoooo
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yes the most important of all is Glbenchmark

kalo88 said:
I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/
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Use phone x, y and z and observe the performance.
My experiences in Quadrant... Transform SDXed out: 500+, Evo Shift OCd 1500ish, EVO3d OCd 3900
Each phone was that much faster for games and real world use, mostly.
The outlier was the Transform, butter smooth on the UI. Better than the EVO3d on the homescreen stock. But totally crap for most anything games.

Yeah... I'm about to jump ship and come back to HTC.
Sorry Sammy
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kalo88 said:
I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/
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Put it like this. Car A can travel at a maximum speed of 100km/h while car B can travel 150km/h
the numbers are the benchmarks. Car B is faster so car A wins.
The reason why they say benchmarks are useless because let's put Car B to real life use.
Car B has 150km/h speed but would you use it in driving the streets? If yes then good luck on the speed limit cameras.

Riyal said:
Put it like this. Car A can travel at a maximum speed of 100km/h while car B can travel 150km/h
the numbers are the benchmarks. Car B is faster so car A wins.
The reason why they say benchmarks are useless because let's put Car B to real life use.
Car B has 150km/h speed but would you use it in driving the streets? If yes then good luck on the speed limit cameras.
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Well... yes... but there can sometimes be an indirect effect on things like battery life. If a chipset is capable of doing more processing for the same amount of power, that likely means it can do the same amount of processing with less power, which means the battery will last longer.
Also, once apps start to become more demanding in the future - more complex 3D games that come out in a year or so - the phones that are faster in the benchmarks now will be able to play newer games for longer before hitting frame-rates that are too low to be enjoyable.
Think of it as car B having a more powerful engine, which lets it go up steeper hills while carrying the same load.