Hey everyone,
First time android user and absolutely loving it so far!
I was wondering how vigilant I need to be in killing off background apps? Coming from the iPhone, its a very different approach. I am just wondering if too many apps running has a negative effect on speed and battery life. How adept is the OS at killing off apps that I haven't opened in a while?
Thanks so much for the input. I am loving my Atrix!!
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Starting with Froyo, Android became much more efficient with managing memory. I do not run a task manager on my DX, never kill any background processes, and my phone runs great all day long.
I only use task killer to make sure I don't have any constant data streaming while I'm not using the phone.
Thanks for the input. I will have to read up on froyo and multitasking efficiency. On the same note, can anyone recommend a battery indicator replacement? Is there a way to show a percentage using the stock one?
Thanks again.
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joelszs said:
Thanks for the input. I will have to read up on froyo and multitasking efficiency. On the same note, can anyone recommend a battery indicator replacement? Is there a way to show a percentage using the stock one?
Thanks again.
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I use Circle Battery Widget from the Market. Works great.
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joelszs said:
Thanks for the input. I will have to read up on froyo and multitasking efficiency. On the same note, can anyone recommend a battery indicator replacement? Is there a way to show a percentage using the stock one?
Thanks again.
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Circle battery widget works
https://market.android.com/details?...oid.CircleBatteryWidget&feature=search_result
FNugget said:
I only use task killer to make sure I don't have any constant data streaming while I'm not using the phone.
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Good point I forgot about. Since Verizon is still on unlimited data (for now), I never pay any attention to what runs in the background.
I too am new and did find one app that allowed multi-tasking, kinda like the windows version of alt-tab and also kill it it too. Very simple but sees be great so far. Called TaskSwitcher. I hold down the Search button and it brings all the "windows" in the background, can go to them or hold it down and kill them. Really impressed!
Meh, with this ophone, you don't really need to worry about background tasks slowing you down.
I used one to make sure there wasn't something big in the background draining the battery but other than that, it hardly ever slows down.
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Very interesting. I am trying it.
=( blocked at work. I'll check it out when I get home =)
will check back to see how it works.
topdawgn8 said:
=( blocked at work. I'll check it out when I get home =)
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radar5 said:
will check back to see how it works.
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Definitely do. Don't miss out!
Here, I'll help remove the mystery.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.latedroid.juicedefender
App looks like it would be awesome but without root I'm not able to control CPU so its not worth it for me. I use widgets to control everything that the program does and then I don't need to have it running in the backround
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Q2slingshot said:
App looks like it would be awesome but without root I'm not able to control CPU so its not worth it for me. I use widgets to control everything that the program does and then I don't need to have it running in the backround
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Glad that works for you. Me personally, I'd rather let an app do it. Then it can still let things in every so often without me doing anything. And the battery use is minimal in the background.
JuiceDefender works... it's a good application. The more time you spend setting it up correctly, the better it works. And having UltimateJuice is a must.
I don't believe in Taskillers as they are just taking up CPU cycles killing off applications that aren't even doing anything (read up on how Android works to understand this fully, mainly how it kills of application and how they can be open and dormant).
gonna give this a shot, thanks
What is the proper way to set up, or some decent configurations for Juice Defender? I've tried it but I really do not understand it at all.
Giving it a try on Fresh 3.1.0.1.
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=( blocked at work. I'll check it out when I get home =)
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You know your phone has a browser...
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Panda Fuzz said:
You know your phone has a browser...
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a flash enabled browser
davebu said:
a flash enabled browser
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Uh we have flash enabled browsers........
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actually seems like a pretty good app, setcpu saves me so much battery already just by underclocking when the screen is off idk if i need to sacrifice my data connections. anyone know the benefits of ultimate juice?
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Uh we have flash enabled browsers........
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that was the point
ritzbrie said:
What is the proper way to set up, or some decent configurations for Juice Defender? I've tried it but I really do not understand it at all.
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If you set it up as I do in the video, I've found that its a very good balance.
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JuiceDefender works... it's a good application. The more time you spend setting it up correctly, the better it works. And having UltimateJuice is a must.
I don't believe in Taskillers as they are just taking up CPU cycles killing off applications that aren't even doing anything (read up on how Android works to understand this fully, mainly how it kills of application and how they can be open and dormant).
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Agreed on both accounts. You gotta go for UltimateJuice and I can't emphasize more that task killers really don't help. You're completely right on your points. The apps aren't doing anything. Android doesn't handle background apps poorly like a PC.
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actually seems like a pretty good app, setcpu saves me so much battery already just by underclocking when the screen is off idk if i need to sacrifice my data connections. anyone know the benefits of ultimate juice?
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In the video I state the benefits of UltimateJuice. Also, with JuiceDefender you'll be able to underclock as you do with setcpu. Saves you a running app as well
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You know your phone has a browser...
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I know...my cube is right next to the door with the director of my department going in and out of it all day long. So it's stealthier for me to watch a video on my desktop rather than my phone.
Oh the woes of an intern.
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I know...my cube is right next to the door with the director of my department going in and out of it all day long. So it's stealthier for me to watch a video on my desktop rather than my phone.
Oh the woes of an intern.
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You could always try wired tethering...
Oh, it's just a big advertisement for JuiceDefender. I thought it was providing some acutal tweaks and settings to change and some data to back it up.
Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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Thanks I will try that out. But yeah my battery life if pretty good when I really try haha. But yeah I've noticed apps just reopen, I guys I have to just get used to the froyo ways
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I couldnt find "advanced app killer" in the market. Is it elsewhere?
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not needed, just like gaww stated
A number of stock apps will restart right after
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is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
Haven't seen the need for a task killer. I run System Panel app and what I'm seeing is the majority of the apps listed are on background and not taking up CPU power at all.
If anything, once I root, I'll probably use Autostarts just to minimize the number of apps that run at startup. But right now... not even necessary.
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not needed, just like gaww stated
is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Iight makes sense to me!
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Questions go in Q&A section!
I'm so tired of this discussion to raise any of the many valid points why task killers are bad.... just don't use them lol.
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Alright, I finally got froyo 2.2 on my hero. But...My battery drains so fast now, and I already know the basic tweaks- GPS is off, auto blacklight, I turn data off when not using the phone, only using 1 widget, task killer is perfectly set up and I only have 3 screens. I tried that Juice Defender app, but I didn't like it. If anyone knows some tips or good apps for this problem, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks in advance
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augoza said:
Alright, I finally got froyo 2.2 on my hero. But...My battery drains so fast now, and I already know the basic tweaks- GPS is off, auto blacklight, I turn data off when not using the phone, only using 1 widget, task killer is perfectly set up and I only have 3 screens. I tried that Juice Defender app, but I didn't like it. If anyone knows some tips or good apps for this problem, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks in advance
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Probably should have been posted in the Hero subsection Q&A
Anyway...
You could try flashing DecaMod BatteryTweak and see if that helps. It may or may not. See my sig for the link, and go here and see the bottom of post #2 for more info.
Hey guys. Does the HTC Legend automatically close programs after pressing the home button or the "backarrow"? My Legend seems to get slower when i've had a lot of programs open?
I've heard about some Androids which doesn't do it.
Android does it. So all Android devices will kill tasks eventually. Pressing the back button until you're back at the homescreen will ensure that the app is closed properly. If you press the home button it will "minimize" the app, and it will run in the background. If you have apps in the background then Android will eventually kill them when it needs the memory. Don't use a task killer.
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TheGrammarFreak said:
Don't use a task killer.
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Why not? I use it on occasion, I's good to have a controll over your phone, plus I'm not sure how android handles turning those apps off when screen is turned off...So by killing before turning screen-off should preserve battery...no?
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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relly interesting issue.
many thanks i'll aply from now
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Well, its a much-debated issue. But in my personal experience, if I dont use task-killers, my legend becomes too sluggish. I would recommend all Legend users to use one.
In my personal opinion, Relying on Andoid's own task management might be ok for high end devices with more RAM. but not for devices with low memory like legend.
Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish. Regardless of whether ir not I use CM.
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ashishvirmani said:
Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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That's the only proper way to do it:L Ya, i restart my phone once a day and it never gets really sluggish!
I barely ever reboot my phone.
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It's really an interesting read, and although I have Taskiller installed, I rarely use it. But a thing I've observed is that when I run Quadrant benchmark and kill before, I usually get lower score... it is some time ago I learned this... Apparently there is something to it
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I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish.
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I don't use a task killer either and have only noticed my phone get sluggish once after the 2.2 upgrade. In that case it was some app which was being stupid.
Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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ashishvirmani said:
Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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Only on CM
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hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Rooted? Over clocked? What rom?
carmanj16 said:
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Reboot with pulling the battery out? Many apps on it?
If you're unsure whats causing the slowdown, I'd download Watchdog Lite and see what apps are taking up the most CPU/RAM and see if removing or fixing issues with these apps will change anything.
I haven't done anything extra for her to it, no rooting, all she has done is the ovta 2.2.1 update and download apps, just simple ones like backgrounds, schedules/notes, and games, and okay thanks I'll try downloading that app to see
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When having that version of Android I had some slow downs when using animated wallpapers, they clogged the memory also until it froze. Using normal, steady backgrounds took care of it.
I also have advanced task manager installed (free from market), it has a widget, clicking on it frees memory and speeds up the phone.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Yeah, Froyo is supposed to be much better with ram management so task managers are not required. Its very likely to be a misbehaving app in the background.
Failing that, factory reset to rule out an failed ota.
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How many text messages does she have on the phone? I think this is a known issue, for people with a ridiculous mount of SMS messages.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Don't use task managers. They're unnecessary and like you said can hurt more than they help more often than not.
Check out an app like Watchdog, that doesn't kill anything it'll just show you if something is eating too much CPU, so you can remove or change it. Also, lots of messages or long long threads can slow it down too.
so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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You can customize what the threshold is. I think its like 20% or 30% by default. Kinda surprising that very rarely happens. If she deletes all messages and it still happens I'm really not sure.
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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Alex530 said:
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
My personal preference is "System Monitor". It doesn't kill anything and does everything watchdog and a little more. It costs tho
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
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Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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carmanj16 said:
just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000? holy ****...
Alex530 said:
Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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You were previously talking about flashing CM7. If the HTC SMS app is indeed the problem, you don't need to flash a new ROM to get away from it. Yes, the HTC SMS app is not great, but neither is the stock AOSP one. I've been using the stock Sense ROM for the most part since December, with Chomp SMS and see absolutely no slow down. Plus, I've tried CM7 and other ROMs, and there is no significant affect on battery life. If the OP's GF wants to stay on Sense, its really overkill to recommend ROM flashing. Its pretty apparent from the most recent posts deleting some messages will likely fix the problem.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000 is a bit much. If its just a case of not being bothered to delete old messages (I have the same problem, but delete in the hundreds still) I could recommend the "Delete old messages" function which will automatically keep the thread down to size.
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