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Google N1 vs SE X10

Who do you think will be the winner? Release date is approximately the same (x10 maybe 1 month later).
Advantages of X10:
Better design
Special Sony Ericsson UI (which is a bit laggy)
Better 8 mp camera with more functions
Bigger screen
Advantages of N1:
AMOLED display instead of TFT
It might be cheaper, than X10
GOOGLE (so there should be early official updates, because google is the author of Android)
Android 2.1 (not 1.6, like X10 has)
More RAM
There is a subforum for N1 on this web-site ^^ and X10 won't have that

From my point of view for
X10
- The Camera
- Design
N1
- 512 RAM
- Dock pins
- Probably updated more often and sooner.
The N1 is uglier but, I think I'm going with it anyways, shame since the X10 is awesome looking.

DarkVasyaK said:
Advantages of X10:
Special Sony Ericsson UI
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im no so sure if that is an advantage
and i have lost my confedence in se a bit lately so i say nexus is better

double the ram is what pushed me towards the n1 instead of the x10

Screen size is debatable, it isn't that much of a difference. Especially since the Android UI scales according to the DPIs reported by the device, anyway.
N1 has more RAM, is directly supported by Google, as such should get regular OS updates (as opposed to how things are right now), especially since it might be likely an ADP3. Plus, a better developer community from the get-go.
X10 has better camera, lags behind Android releases. Whether the custom UI is worth a damn, remains to be seen. All the blue is annoying as hell, and I especially don't see the point in Timescape, will all these flashy cards in 3D space. Not sure who thought this is intuitive or efficient. Developer community TBD.
Yea, the X10 looks better, but function over form. The 8mp camera doesn't do it for me. Considering the small lens sizes and the rising amount of noise due to cramming more pixels onto a small surface, doesn't mean it's better off.

Waiting for the 5th of January when N1 will be officially announced

I prefer the looks of the N1 over the X10. I think the X10 is a bit too flashy and those chrome button at the bottom look tacky IMO. Also, the X10 doesnt have AWS for T-Mobile USA 3G. Also, 256mb of ram? What the hell were they thinking.

Be honest hate say it, but N1

It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful

DarkVasyaK said:
It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful
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Why not buy them on ebay from usa seller with worldwide shipping?

maybe because of guarantee... plus I don't really trust the internet shops

I say get the n1. better specs and you can always have a go with the sony ui on it later, enjoying more ram to run it.

From what I've seen & read, I like the looks & specs of the N1 over the X10. But, the real test will be to get them in your hands!

DarkVasyaK said:
It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful
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I believe I can buy up to 5 per google account. I can buy and resell them

seraph1024 said:
I believe I can buy up to 5 per google account. I can buy and resell them
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but 5 with contract, isn't it?

DarkVasyaK said:
but 5 with contract, isn't it?
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Who knows? We'll all find out on Tuesday.

mm wonder if I should consider buying more than 1 and resell it for profit..

jamesyb0i said:
mm wonder if I should consider buying more than 1 and resell it for profit..
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You probably can but you're placing a huge bet here because:
1. You will shell around $2650 for 5 phones plus import tax if you're outside the US
2. There is no guarantee that N1 will be sold out... If they let people to buy 5 of them, I think they are pretty confident that they have quite a lot in stock
3. If it's not a sold out product you have 4 N1 sitting there while Ebay probably got flooded with the product and you can't sell them for a good profit...
If you're sure that the product will be sold out for an extended period of time (like the Wii) then it is wise to stock up and sell them slowly as the price will stay up.
I myself is thinking about that as well and it will be a gametime decision during work (9am January 5th) whether to get all 5 of them or just 1

svntsvn said:
I say get the n1. better specs and you can always have a go with the sony ui on it later, enjoying more ram to run it.
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Exactly what i was thinking! N1 all day over x10!

I used to be a huge fan on the x10. I've been waiting for a good Android phone for three years now...
Things the x10 fails at:
1) marketing/engineering. They missed the xmas season 09.
2) Custom UI. This will be a nightmare to maintain since google updates the code so often. Its not necessary and a waste of time. Expect sony to send out updates a month after google does.
3)price. Its estimated to be $700 or more.
Things the x10 is better at
1) better camera
2) better media support/player

X10 coming to AT&T, 2.1 in Q4

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...n=Feed:+TheBoyGeniusReport+(Boy+Genius+Report)
Not good news...looks like Q4 for 2.1.

Why do you say that? "Coming weeks" falls in line with the end of Q3 schedule quite nicely.

AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.

wrongfeifong said:
AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.
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What do u mean x10 isn't attractive?Galaxy S is just another iphone ripoff, evo 4g looks like a brick sent into a squashing machine and while the droid x doesn't look too bad, it doesn't compare to the X10's design

wrongfeifong said:
AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.
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what? are you serious ?

Sadly, North americans are people that sulk in pursuing numbers and names. Not their functions nor design.
If not then Iphone wouldn't be sold so many here. which iphone user actually looked into and compare the function of Iphone against other before buying an Iphone.
And evo 4g isn't really 4g (from what i read). But everyone think it is 4g and buy it out.
While functions, x10 lost to all the latest phones. The only thing that is attractive enough is SE's brand name, which some of us bought it because of it.

wrongfeifong said:
Sadly, North americans are people that sulk in pursuing numbers and names. Not their functions nor design.
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I'm not into names, numbers or looks, only function.
Bought the X10 because it was/is the largest screen Android phone in Canada with North American 3G. (wasn't going to pay $800 to import an N1)
Happy with Android 1.6 but wish it did BT Voice Dial.
Don't care about looks which is why I stuck a 2600mAh battery in it's butt
BTW, I also never understood the iPhone attraction.

x10 is very good looking in white or black, It fits in the hand good not like the hd2. Soon or later 2.1 would come, and I don't care about 2.2. Anyway, all I want to say is x10 is good and just give it a try.

Sorry, but your posts make no sense. The Evo 4G is 4G, which is available only in a very limited number of major American cities.
The Evo 4G is not a true competitor for any other phone because it is such a niche product.
The Galaxy S, Droid Incredible, Droid X, and Droid 2 are the X10's biggest competition, but I assume that AT&T will price the X10 accordingly (i.e. lower than the others).

hmm so where is HondaGuy? Any answers for doubting me that the X10 is coming to AT&T since I was the first to state it a while ago?
The AT&T logo appears only in the back on the cover, we get to keep our XPERIA logo on the front
And 2.1 will be ready near the end of Q3 in September, the Q4 one is something else Let's just say we will be happy 2 more times with our X10 before the year ends

As late as the x10 is coming into the game for the american market, I feel that it is still plenty competitive with other flagship smartphones. There are only few minor issues with the x10, being the lack of MT and the lower built in ram and rom.
If at&t markets the phone correctly to those looking for a high quality camera phone, I think the x10 can make a great impression. While looks is an interpretive concept, I have heard a lot of positive comments about the phone's design and imo is currently the best looking phone available with android. For those reasons, I think the x10 will definitely get some crapple converts.
Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk

The way that the 4 is selling out everywhere, no "crapple" owner is going to convert.
However, plenty of RIM users will jump onto the Android train.

These are hish wash here in the US. You go to ATT local store all you can see is selection of 10 crappy phone which they have put four of each in every corner (4x10 - 40 crappy phones) and a stand with iPhone on it. I have been ATT customer for 4 years now and I have never bought a phone from them. Phone Company in the US suck with no options. People don't care about the phone, as long as it has iphone options or some cool other feature or even if it doesn't.
We see the phones as gadget many people don't see it that way.
I wish t-mobile could bring their European policy here in the US.$0 for phone anything you like.
Let them be happy with their iPhone. as long as they are not using it for their pregnancy test.

Some reason I think X10 will do great in US.
When X10 was realesed, I doubted that it won't really do well in front of HTC and Motorola as it was Sony Ericsson's first Android device and no multitouch with 1.6
When I bought, I was amazed. I think the user experience is Brilliant!!! Top notch phone with hardware specs. The problem is not X10, it's the Sony Ericsson's delays with upgrades, but not to forget they are catching up. It's not they are not doing anything about it

AT&T's website no longer has the Xperia X10?

I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.

That Guy Is Here said:
I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.
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yup x10 is old.

That Guy Is Here said:
I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.
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EOL was found out before Xmas but it was supposed to be a few more weeks, they just carried through early it seems. Now there are people who are wondering if they will ever release another branded update to the phone. Since it's EOL, it's unlikely. IMHO.
As for the new phones? Well they don't show up in any discussion of the 12 Android phone/devices they are supposed to carry in 2011, most of the slots are already filled with HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Dell products. They have not announced any SE phone agreements, there are no actual rumors of any phones on ATT only assumptions.
Rogers, and Verizon have been confirmed as Xperia Play carriers. Verizon is supposed to have some sort of exclusive on it for the short term. Maybe SE will also put it on Sprint. There may be official unlocked versions available from the Sony Style stores and unlocked Rogers on ebay as in the past.
Frankly, IMHO, Arc and Neo are meh phones hardware wise compared to some of the others announced. Play is the one phone that is truly different with the game controllers, but the question becomes 'How Much?' I'm not going to pay a few hundred for any of these, and I'm beholding to my X10 until 2012 like most ATT customers who got the X10a.
The NGP (now the PSP2) is not supposed to out-price a PS3 ($299). It's much more powerful than the Play and is supposed to have 3G. If you are really a gamer, wouldn't you rather have a PSP2? and a bluetooth headset?
I can't see the Play going unlocked for $500 or 600. It just doesn't have the kind of specs for that, and $250(?) on contract still seems pricey for something that doesn't have 500mb internal storage and LTE/HSPDA+ chips or a dual core.

AT&T-branded phone not looking good for U.S. Release

The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).

mattism78 said:
The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.

I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!

You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.

cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).

kakwvu said:
I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
mattism78 said:
There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.

The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.

BarryH_GEG said:
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.

Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.

Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it

The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.

Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting

I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.

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The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.

I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.

phonex1 said:
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*

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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.

Pay 10% more for Super AMOLED (I9020) vs Super LCD (I9023)

In the UK I can buy:
Super AMOLED (I9020) £346.79 inc. tax
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Super LCD (I9023) £317.99 inc. tax
Is it worth the extra £28.80?

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In the UK I can buy:
Super AMOLED (I9020) £346.79 inc. tax
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Super LCD (I9023) £317.99 inc. tax
Is it worth the extra £28.80?
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get the Samsung Galaxy S2, Nexus S is getting old now

psp888 said:
get the Samsung Galaxy S2, Nexus S is getting old now
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There is a £150 - £175 difference between the two. Plus I would rather have vanilla Android.

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There is a £150 - £175 difference between the two. Plus I would rather have vanilla Android.
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You should really look at the SGS2, as the Nexus S is year old technology. I've had the Nexus One and Nexus S, although having vanillia is nice and clean, Samsung have made good enhancements, espcially the browser being hardware accelerated, no idea why Google don't do this on their phones. and all the extra video codecs it can handle, full HD video recording, just to mention a few.
Just giving you some thoughts before you hit the buy button

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You should really look at the SGS2, as the Nexus S is year old technology. I've had the Nexus One and Nexus S, although having vanillia is nice and clean, Samsung have made good enhancements, espcially the browser being hardware accelerated, no idea why Google don't do this on their phones. and all the extra video codecs it can handle, full HD video recording, just to mention a few.
Just giving you some thoughts before you hit the buy button
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I'm on Three and the cheapest I can pick a PAYG handset up is for £499.99 (I'm hoping they would wave the top-up as I'm already a contract customer). Can it be had cheaper SIM free?

Please the OP did not ask about the Galaxy II he asked which display.
Not everybody wants to be stuck with Samsung Bloatware.
Me I would pay the difference and go for the Super AMOLED.

AstroDigital said:
Please the OP did not ask about the Galaxy II he asked which display.
Not everybody wants to be stuck with Samsung Bloatware.
Me I would pay the difference and go for the Super AMOLED.
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Well the SGS2 has a Super AMOLED Plus display!

I agree about the bloatware plus the fact the one thing that almost killed the deal for me was that this phone was made by Samsung and not HTC.Get the Amoled phone it is a great screen.

Brought the slcd version a month back for £325. amoled version was over 400 at the time.
After having the i8910 I thought I'd miss the amoled display but haven't noticed much of a difference.
Although I do agree super amoled its a better screen especially to watch movies on, also you would get slightly better battery life due to the lower power consumption while displaying blacks.
If I were buying now I would pay that bit extra.
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keer-en said:
In the UK I can buy:
Super AMOLED (I9020) £346.79 inc. tax
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Super LCD (I9023) £317.99 inc. tax
Is it worth the extra £28.80?
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there is also the difference in the RADIO BANDs... make sure it has the bands that you need

Super Amoled for sure.
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psp888 said:
You should really look at the SGS2, as the Nexus S is year old technology. I've had the Nexus One and Nexus S, although having vanillia is nice and clean, Samsung have made good enhancements, espcially the browser being hardware accelerated, no idea why Google don't do this on their phones. and all the extra video codecs it can handle, full HD video recording, just to mention a few.
Just giving you some thoughts before you hit the buy button
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The Nexus S is 6 months old..

AllGamer said:
there is also the difference in the RADIO BANDs... make sure it has the bands that you need
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There isn't in Europe.
I had had play with the LCD version yesterday and I liked it, but the built quality of my iPhone 4 has me spolit so I stil don't know what to do!

keer-en said:
In the UK I can buy:
Super AMOLED (I9020) £346.79 inc. tax
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Super LCD (I9023) £317.99 inc. tax
Is it worth the extra £28.80?
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Don't get this phone, you kidding me? Its OK and all, but man does it slow down. It uses too much of its 512 Mb of ram. Can't wait until my next phone comes out.

You can buy the SGS2 for £400 pay and go on O2.
You just might need to get it unlocked it you aren't on that network.
And you can get the LG Optimus 2X for £330
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...=0&searchstring=lg+optimus+2x&urlrefer=search

williamj1 said:
You can buy the SGS2 for £400 pay and go on O2.
You just might need to get it unlocked it you aren't on that network.
And you can get the LG Optimus 2X for £330
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...=0&searchstring=lg+optimus+2x&urlrefer=search
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O2 have not been offering that deal for about a week now, Also the SGSII does not come with NFC. I had the SGSII and its amazing, but i love the Sexus S, it feels like a proper phone, nothing can beat the ergonomics of the Nexus S
But the SGSII is fantastic, and is hands down the best phone on the market at the moment. But the NS is still a great phone and should not be taken lightly. You will also get Ice Cream Sandwich first, Who knows how long SGSII users will wait??? The SGS1 users still have not got official gingerbread...

williamj1 said:
You can buy the SGS2 for £400 pay and go on O2.
You just might need to get it unlocked it you aren't on that network.
And you can get the LG Optimus 2X for £330
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...=0&searchstring=lg+optimus+2x&urlrefer=search
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And as for the LG optimus 2x, everyone i know is trying to sell theirs due to its random reboot issue... It has lots and lots of software problems which have only been put right by POB and the CM7 team. Stay away from LG trust me....

I'm not saying that. The nexus S is a truly wonderful phone, one of the best available. My point was merely that if you are a techie who likes to always have the latest thing, this is probably not the time to buy a nexus. For some, the nexus will do everything they need. But for others, the dual core phones and the games and apps they bring will be a huge want. I am one of those people.
3+ months ago, I'd have happily bought a Nexus S and kept it for a year. Now, I'm waiting for the price of the SGS2 to fall, or the sensation come out. My plan is to get one of those soon while they are still fresh. Then keep it for ages. Because really, once you add dual core and front facing cameras, there is little you can add other than software. The SGS2 is rootable which means updates and custom roms. That, is the phone for me. The dual cores are the beginning of a new smartphone age, but they will stay for a while as there is little you can evolve. The Nexus S doesn't offer that, as it has already been surpassed, and rumours of the nexus 3 dual core no doubt are already surfacing. The Nexus S is still amazing, but it's no longer king (power wise). If I was keeping a nexus s for a few months then it would be great. But I keep phones for 1-2 years. So I might as well get something that is at the peak of android power IMO.
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-The SGS2 is not available pay/go at O2 because of stock issues. It will be back soon.
-I'm not fussed about NFC. It hasn't taken off in the UK at all. It's more of a gizmo than something useful. And it won't be useful until it is in widespread use. And that will be a while.
-Also, I love the look and power and price of the LG 2x, but I hate that crappy LG UI. No thanks

williamj1 said:
I'm not saying that. The nexus S is a truly wonderful phone, one of the best available. My point was merely that if you are a techie who likes to always have the latest thing, this is probably not the time to buy a nexus. For some, the nexus will do everything they need. But for others, the dual core phones and the games and apps they bring will be a huge want. I am one of those people.
3+ months ago, I'd have happily bought a Nexus S and kept it for a year. Now, I'm waiting for the price of the SGS2 to fall, or the sensation come out. My plan is to get one of those soon while they are still fresh. Then keep it for ages. Because really, once you add dual core and front facing cameras, there is little you can add other than software. The SGS2 is rootable which means updates and custom roms. That, is the phone for me. The dual cores are the beginning of a new smartphone age, but they will stay for a while as there is little you can evolve. The Nexus S doesn't offer that, as it has already been surpassed, and rumours of the nexus 3 dual core no doubt are already surfacing. The Nexus S is still amazing, but it's no longer king (power wise). If I was keeping a nexus s for a few months then it would be great. But I keep phones for 1-2 years. So I might as well get something that is at the peak of android power IMO.
PS:
-The SGS2 is not available pay/go at O2 because of stock issues. It will be back soon.
-I'm not fussed about NFC. It hasn't taken off in the UK at all. It's more of a gizmo than something useful. And it won't be useful until it is in widespread use. And that will be a while.
-Also, I love the look and power and price of the LG 2x, but I hate that crappy LG UI. No thanks
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The offer of the o2 PAYG for 400 has been suspended as of last week, check the website, its only back orders they will be fulfilling.
The NS will be at the forefront of software tech, maybe not hardware, but it will always be supported to the full by google. And as for the HTC Sensation, nice phone but the 720p and 1080p are no better than the recording in the Desire HD so i would avoid that at all costs.
The cheapest you can buy a SGSII is 495, Personally i would rather a NS and a ASUS Transformer, which is what i bought instead of just having the SGSII

splmonster said:
The Nexus S is 6 months old..
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Yes the phone is 6 months old but the hardware technology is one year old or even more.
To OP:
Nowadays there isnt much difference between SLCD and SAMOLED. Unless you put the 2 side to side , i can bet you would not be able to distinguish bet them.
I would advise you to get the nexus s on ebay for a cheaper price. i am sure you can get a new one for around 260-270 pounds. IMO buying the nexus s more than 300 pounds now is not worth it.