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I'm usually that guy that rolls his eyes at crying about 2.2 being released. I make jokes about your phone not automatically dispensing cash after you update it. I tell people to sit on it, it isn't that big of a deal.
Well I take it all back.
I've been running DK28 since it is was available on google (update zip). I switched to various versions of Bonsai, I've run TrulyEpic. I've been pleased with all of them.
The only problem I really have had was on all DK28 based installs, I end up with messaging locking up every 20 or so texts, and it will stick at Sending... until I reboot the phone, then it will send the queue after 45 seconds or so. No big deal really, just a nuisance, and I've seen many others with the issue.
Well two days ago I started getting the 'no audio' phone calls where you have to speakerphone on/off to hear anything. That I can't deal with. I know several have had it happen, but that is just something that can severely affect my productivity and must be stopped.
After fooling around with reflashes a bit I decided to go back to stock(ish). I odin'd back to DI18.
I figured CWM2.5, get my root explorer going again, organize everything how I want and just sit tight until we go official. Learned my fav GTG doesn't work correctly with 2.1; no problem, we'll use LauncherPro and suck it up some more. So I get everything organized how I like it and ready to go.
Crap this sucks. 2.2 really is nicer. Everything is more fluid. Menus are more welcoming in appearance. There is significantly less jitters moving between apps (I'm looking at you, Market). USB connectivity issues are resolved (I totally forgot how finicky 2.1 was with USB cord connecting).
And benchmarks? Yeah forget about them, the difference is depressing.
So yeah, sorry. We really do deserve 2.2 on this phone. It'd just been so long I forgot I'm still keeping 2.1 on it for now... possibly until update (2012 is just around the corner). I thought it might be nice to have a back-and-forth perspective for a change, as I haven't seen many people go back to 2.1 with intention of staying.
TL;DR:
Went back to 2.1
Misses 2.2
Still TL;DR:
Whaaaaaaa!
People keep saying 2.2 is faster. I've put 2 epics side by side one with DI18 one with DK28. Froyo is slower, not by a little, by a lot. Some small things operate a little faster, but in whole the entire user interaction is slower than eclair. I've tried several times, even swapped what phones had what OS, results never changed.
I went back to 2.1 and also think it is faster and a lot quicker to response. 2.2 seemed pretty sluggish to me. The 2.2 Roms were nice but I did not like Ext 4 so I just reverted back to 2.1
xjman said:
People keep saying 2.2 is faster. I've put 2 epics side by side one with DI18 one with DK28. Froyo is slower, not by a little, by a lot. Some small things operate a little faster, but in whole the entire user interaction is slower than eclair. I've tried several times, even swapped what phones had what OS, results never changed.
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See that's strange because I went back and forth several times for about 3 hours last night making comparisons and on mine, it was just the opposite :/
Agreed, there are lots of little things in Froyo that are faster (transitions and stuff), but those I discount because they aren't really indicative of the speed of the phone so much as the way the transition is designed to appear.
Over all though, much less lag between applications on 2.2... the Market being one of the worst to open showing obvious jitters etc.
Funny as it is, I can live with that stuff; the things that really bother me are the totally superfluous things like cosmetics and the simplicity of sticking a usb cable in and the phone figuring out what I want to do on it's own and not asking me to unplug it, change a setting, replug it, etc.
Anywho.... I'll see how long I stick it out
I've been back on stock for almost a week now after trying various ROMs, and I've decided to tough it out until an official update if one comes at all. It's not a bad experience at all for me.
been running Baked Snack 1.6(DI18) over here...... crazy fast! especially on wifi. i like the idea of building a house on a good foundation, so sticking with DI18 for now.
DK28 is a POS... My 2.1 run faster and smoother then any DK28 I've tried... IMO developers should save their energy till we get the official release.
Quantum is nice and fast I got a live wallpaper and it's doing well
I keep switching back and forth between 2.1 and 2.2 Nebula with Ext4 and I have to say that overall, 2.1 with xtreme kernal and Syndicate is just as fast with great battery than the froyo roms. Although Nebula is performing great for me and I do have the occasional glitch from time to time, I think I'm gonna roll with it at least for another week
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DK28 is a POS... My 2.1 run faster and smoother then any DK28 I've tried... IMO developers should save their energy till we get the official release.
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Here here....
My wife was on baked snack 1.6 and i was running one of the dk28 roms my phone was smoking her phone. just saying. much quicker load times, better gps and battery.
pipskicks said:
Quantum is nice and fast I got a live wallpaper and it's doing well
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Quantum is buggy. Probably not the developers fault, as most of the issues are DK28, but I have been running Quantum 2.7 since it came out and I certainly wouldn't use the words "nice" or "fast" to describe it. Also, some of the bugs are absolutely not DK28. I am trying to be very careful not to insult the developer, but the issues that his rom has makes me want to do awful things to my phone sometimes.
I know how you feel OP. I can barely stand using my Epic anymore cause of the sickness it causes. I feel I've been cheated by just buying the phone, thinking that it was gonna be updated with some sort of quickness. It's just depressing knowing that when you spend that much money and are stuck behind 2 O/S upgrades. Hopefully we will get something soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I know how you feel OP. I can barely stand using my Epic anymore cause of the sickness it causes. I feel I've been cheated by just buying the phone, thinking that it was gonna be updated with some sort of quickness. It's just depressing knowing that when you spend that much money and are stuck behind 2 O/S upgrades. Hopefully we will get something soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The way people are around here the last month or so, I'm not sure if that first sentence is sincerity or sarcasm
I actually had no care or consideration for 2.2 when I bought the phone. Wasn't the least of my concerns. I just wanted the newest Sprint smartphone, and I couldn't use an Evo because A) needed a slide out keyboard for certain things that the popup wouldn't work and B) Evos are far more moisture sensitive due to their construction and it wouldn't have lasted a week for me.
Having tried 2.2 out though, it just feels more natural to me. Everyone is back and forth on the speed thing, and that really isn't it for me. 2.2 feels more natural in a lot of respects, both in form and function where 2.1 feels more half-completed. Like comparing a spiral staircase to an aluminum ladder.
My point was that it really does, as far as feeling like a completed unit, -make- the phone. There are glitches etc that aren't part of my consideration as I expect them to be Beta related. No doubt 2.1 is more solid and probably faster at some things than others... speed isn't really an issue for me unless you count the App lag and jitters... they suck.
But yeah, now that i've done side-by-sides of it, 2.2 (in a completed non Beta state) really is what the phone deserves. I'm hoping it does eventually happen.
It's nice to know that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side. I'm sitting at stock and just waiting for 2.2 to drop. I have no problem rooting (I did the G1 bunches), but I just don't want to go to the trouble of rooting to find a different set of problems. As best I can tell that's what would happen. Even CM Beta 0 is buggy right now. I'll take the devil I know at this point. Thanks for sharing your story.
How is Quantum buggy? I use Quantum 2.1 here without ext4 and I'm not getting any bugs. It's the best rom I've found to date. Froyo is way smoother on basically every single thing I've tried to do than the stock rom ever was.
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How is Quantum buggy? I use Quantum 2.1 here without ext4 and I'm not getting any bugs. It's the best rom I've found to date. Froyo is way smoother on basically every single thing I've tried to do than the stock rom ever was.
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When I tap the power button to put the phone to sleep, it turns off the screen, pauses a second or two, then turns the screen back on with the lockscreen being displayed. It does this about 50% of the time. No other DK28 rom has done this for me, so its not DK28 that is causing this. The wifi toggle in the notification drop down causes errors probably 30% of the time with Wifi never turning on. There are SMS issues where it will freeze and not send messages. Friends have received multiple messages from me over and over for some reason.
I could go on, but I won't.
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When I tap the power button to put the phone to sleep, it turns off the screen, pauses a second or two, then turns the screen back on with the lockscreen being displayed. It does this about 50% of the time. No other DK28 rom has done this for me, so its not DK28 that is causing this. The wifi toggle in the notification drop down causes errors probably 30% of the time with Wifi never turning on. There are SMS issues where it will freeze and not send messages. Friends have received multiple messages from me over and over for some reason.
I could go on, but I won't.
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The power off issue happens to me all the time, and I am running stock dk28, so I wouldnt rule out it being just quantum.
Go Ducks! Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G
i had the power button issue on dk28, quantam and bonsai, until i tried ext4. i havent had the issue since.
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The power off issue happens to me all the time, and I am running stock dk28, so I wouldnt rule out it being just quantum.
Go Ducks! Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G
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Interesting. I ran stock DK28 for a few weeks and it never happened to me. Maybe the bugs I thought were from Quantum were just DK28 being buggy. Its not that big of a deal, yet it infuriates me. Can't wait for official Froyo to be done. Please Samsung, please.
Well as I found out when my SD card died it also took out my GPS, nothing will make it work again. So I put the phone back to stock, got the ED03 Froyo OTA update and took it into my verizon store, long story short I'm getting another phone tomorrow. I've been rocking on the stock froyo for a few days now and its kinda wierd since I've basically been rooted from day one. For one battery life is horrible with anything turned on, however with everything toggled off my battery life is alot better than any custom ROM or undervolted kernel. I didnt expect that. Phone isnt as laggy and i expected either. Whats really bizarre is when your stock the Market actually WORKS! No matter what I flashed my Market was always laggy, sometimes never worked at all. I usually have to start a download two or three times. This was for any ROM or kernel I tried, I assumed it was normal. Well on stock Froyo, the Market loads immediately, when I click to dowload it downloads and installs immediately. WOW! Now when I get my new phone I'm gona root it , is there anyway to get this good Market performance?
I don't have any market issues on comrom 1.3
My phone performs much better on stock ED03 than Community ROM v1.3. Is there a lot more broken with that ROM than the kernel & status bar?
For the past few days I've also been running stock ED03 with the basic bloat removed and minimal apps installed. Battery life is a bit better, but it's still not great. The phone is typically dead (or screaming for a charger) by the end of the day with normal use.
Everything seems to work with the exception of bluetooth calling (after I hang up) in my car. At first I thought it was those custom kernels causing the issue, but even the stock kernel/ROM does it.
After I hang up a call via bluetooth in my car, the phone crashes and bluetooth crashes which makes the phone hang for a minute or two. I can turn bluetooth off then on to get it to re-connect to the car, but it'll just crash again after the next call is done. Through some reading, I found that Samsung is real shady with their implementation of bluetooth. I can believe it based on our GPS issues, jacked up RIL code, weak wi-fi signal and a lower overall cell signal than other phones.
It's **** like this that keeps me from wanting the SGS II.
I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go
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I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go
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I don't know I just played with a htc thunderbolt yesterday at a verizon store and that thing is bad ass even without 4g. If us cellular got that phone id be all over it. But from what I hear we getting the moto atrix which I'm not a huge fan of...now that moto xoom tablet on the other hand...if verizon wasn't so damn expensive.... My $.02 haha
As for the stock experience I just flashed back from cm7 to stock and all I got was pissed off haha
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ive had issues with the market in custom roms too. sometimes when i download an app instead of installing it just disappears, and i have to redownload it sometimes more than once to get it to install. but that wont make me go back to stock. custom roms/kernels are waaay better than stock and theres bound to be some issues here and there
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I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go
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I had the LG G2x for a little over a week and it wasn't too bad. There were very minor annoying things (which I cannot remember) that reminded me of Samsung, but it wasn't as bad. It was supposed to be stock Android, but a developer soon discovered that it wasn't. It was just themed to appear stock, so I don't think the G2x currently performs as good as say a Cyanogen ROM.
Also, that phone was plagued with that reboot bug. Outside of the reboot bug and the LCD screen, it's not a bad phone. I couldn't keep it because A) the software bugs reminded me of why I don't want another Samsung. I'm not going to buy a phone and put up with that BS again - although, that phone should get heavy dev support soon; B) Maybe it was the 4" screen or the bottom heavy bezel or the bleeding LCD screen, but I felt the phone was too much of a lateral step rather than a step up from the SGS series of phones. I needed more to keep myself satisfied.
LG has the potential to do good, but so far... they're on shaky ground to me. Just like Samsung. They need to fix the reboot issues and stop copying Samsung.
As it stands I will stick it out with my Fascinate till I see a Verizon phone I really like. Which sucks because I don't see any on the horizon that look promising except for maybe the Motorola Targa. When it comes to community efforts there are two reasons I look to them from time to time -- stability and believe it or not BLN
Beware of the LG Revolution when it drops. It's not going to be a "With Google" device, meaning Verizon is probably going to beat and rape it until it's a mere shadow of it's original self.
Running stock ED03, rooted, modified to support cwr, de-binged, de-bloated, and deodexed. I did this all myself, a lot of reading of how to's. Next up I found something on converting rfs to ext4 I hope it easy enough and works well. So far its great, with the prospect of awesome, if file extention Change is doable and improves phone as much as I read about.
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I gave up my Tbolt for now and have purchased a Fascinate. I truly hate the icons and stock theme. I've been looking for the past 2 days on and off for a decent ROM but have yet to make a decision.
All i want is debinged, devzw, stock android icons, and all the phone features working. I can tell that GB is having issues on the Fascinate side as it was with the Thunderbolt so i prefer to keep it Froyo for now.
If anyone is willing to help me out and get started with this i will kindly appreciate your help!
Thanks =]
This thread has what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044406&highlight=debinged
Best Froyo Rom IMHO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991
I dropped my tbolt too. Its in perfect condition and brand new just too heavy
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CM7/MIUIGB is fully functional, I would rather flash that then a froyo ROM.
Been using MIUIGB from andmer, super snacky no problems - I love it.
>.> Here's what you need...
These are the links:
1)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728929
2)http://ig33k.portzilla.com/2011/02/odin-1-3-download/
3)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
4)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116424
5)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171948
^^^Please read this thread carefully, and might I suggest downloading the high leakage version first^^^
6)http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
7)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132236
~Download Samsung drivers for your phone (1)
~Download Odin (2), and start it up.
~Now download the CWM recovery (3).
~Under PDA in Odin, look for where the recovery downloaded to and select it.
~Download files (4-6) and place them on the root of your SD card.
*Take out the battery on your Fascinate and grab your USB cable.
~While holding down the volume down button on the phone, plug it into the PC.
~When Odin shows your phone in the box on top, go ahead and press start.
~When it is completed, unplug your phone, put your battery back in.
~Hold down volup+voldwn+pwr until you get into the recovery. (If you missed it, please go back to the *)
~(Often, unpressing and pressing these buttons while at SAMSUNG will help.)
~Go ahead and wipe/factory reset. (If you need to make a backup, do it, then go back to *)
~Under advanced in the menu, wipe dalvik cache.
~At the main menu again, go to install zip from SD card.
~Select the "update-cm-7.1.0-Fascinate-KANG-###.zip"
~Allow that to install, then flash "gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip"
~After that is complete, go forth and install CM7Fascinate-Glitch-V###.zip"
~Now boot up into your beauty, then shut if off before you fill out your info.
~Now, last but not least, go back to Odin, under PDA attach the radio (7). (you gotta extract it first.)
~Hit start, and enjoy your brand new Nexus S Fascinate DDD
Hope that helped... and might I suggest you read up on that kernel thread, because your phone has some secret tricks now
Definitely get Voodoo Control App from the Market, and have fun with that. (Adjust the color!!!!! Here's my settings in Voodoo
Color settings: Voodoo Profile
RGB Multipliers: (Red)3354165123 (Green)3333712640 (Blue)3507556800
Gamma Hack: (Red) -11 (Green) -18 (Blue) -11
If you want to overclock, definitely go with Voltage Control App from the Market and follow the thread's instructions carefully.
If you want your phone to look like mine with an unlocked Launcher Pro (I bought the licence) PM me. Here's what she looks like. I also swiped along my dockbar at the bottom when i swiped the screen.
mmtoman said:
I dropped my tbolt too. Its in perfect condition and brand new just too heavy
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You sir are one of the few people to actually admit that the weight of that phone is too much. Most people are too proud of their new TBolt to admit it weighs more than the moon. Co-worker got one at launch and i tried it out, almost dropped it after holding my Fascinate. Everything feels heavy compared to it however the TBolt is a freaking brick! I could not comfortably walk around with it in my shirt or pants pocket, it would weigh them down so much. The sheer mass has also lead to what I believe are more cracked screens than it should. The Fascinate weighs almost nothing so their's little chance of breaking the glass from an everyday drop.
Thank you all for the helpful links and replies
I loved my tbolt but i had some emergencies and needed the cash, now that the urgency has past i couldn't stand using my spare blackberry bold. so i poped it on ebay and went ahead with a purchase of a Fascinate since that is about the only other android that is worth owing.
Bert336 said:
Thank you all for the helpful links and replies
I loved my tbolt but i had some emergencies and needed the cash, now that the urgency has past i couldn't stand using my spare blackberry bold. so i poped it on ebay and went ahead with a purchase of a Fascinate since that is about the only other android that is worth owing.
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Well if your haven't yet you should try CM7 with the Glitch kernel. Amazingly fast, faster than any of the Froyo voodoo based roms.
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Well if your haven't yet you should try CM7 with the Glitch kernel. Amazingly fast, faster than any of the Froyo voodoo based roms.
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but does everything work? i was reading under a few roms with GB that there are still some issues. i am mostly concern with sensors working right, volume, camera, and no boot loops.
Only issue with MTD-based ROMs (CM7/MIUI/OMFG-B) is the occasional delay on sensor when pulling phone away from head and a (sadly) very noticeable issue with in-call volume (and volume in general).
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but does everything work? i was reading under a few roms with GB that there are still some issues. i am mostly concern with sensors working right, volume, camera, and no boot loops.
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MMS got fixed so now its mostly annoyance type things. My sensors and camera and all work fine. Like mentioned, call volume is a bit low....but completely usable. It is my everyday Rom now. Extremely fast. If you talk on it as a phone all day I would wait but if you use it for a lot of surfing and stuff its pretty solid now. Data connection seems to be flaky for some people but on the EC09 modem I have had little trouble and GPS is back to super fast lock.
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MMS got fixed so now its mostly annoyance type things. My sensors and camera and all work fine. Like mentioned, call volume is a bit low....but completely usable. It is my everyday Rom now. Extremely fast. If you talk on it as a phone all day I would wait but if you use it for a lot of surfing and stuff its pretty solid now. Data connection seems to be flaky for some people but on the EC09 modem I have had little trouble and GPS is back to super fast lock.
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I'll add another testimonial to this one. I'm using CM7 with the Glitch kernel and it's been a ton of fun. The call volume is a bit low, but I've gotten used to it. When I come out of the call, I usually have to press a button to recall the screen, however, because the sensor doesn't register that I've taken the phone away from my face. By the time that happens, however, the other person has usually hung up.
I've had no data outages (EC09), but Wifi's been spotty. GPS locks very quickly (5-10 seconds) and everything else has been a dream. For a while I was too underclocked and I got some random reboots, but that was hardly the ROM's or kernel's fault.
ok so i was getting ready to get to work on the fascinate when i got stopped by a brick wall.. rooted with super one click, checked root and busybox. downloaded rom manger, come to find out clockwork recovery is not working with the new froyos... i am currently on ed05 Official from VZ....anyone knows or has the files to get the clockwork to work so i can start checking out roms? thanks!
rom manager dont work with the fascinate... you have to flash the cwm3.tar thru odin!
ok so i installed this through Odin....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
i tried it and it works, now im going to see if i can load a rom and not screw it up lol
good luck. you wont be disappointed once you get to cm7 or miui
Well guys, I don't honestly know what to think about the new OTA. I tried it but wasn't overly impressed with it. However the speed and battery life is kinda nice. I still feel like it is lacking some features that a GB update should have had and I also feel VZW and HTC rushed this one. What do yall think?
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
I ran the leak for a while, I really liked it because of speed, but I can't believe they took mobile network, airplane and silent mode out of the power menu.
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
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Thats a good point. I love CM myself, been a long time fan.
I've been using the rooted leak version for about 24 hours now, moving from an EVO based mod. The new one is definitely zippier, even on scrolling, etc. I'll keep using it, but looking forward to new custom builds once the source is out and modders get their hands on this kernel.
Well, this wasn't supposed to be as big a thing compared to when FroYo was released. Expectations of that magnitude for this release were not realistic.
Differences aren't visual per se, rather just a few functional ones.
All in all, gingerbread, meh.....
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For me, it's a few things.
Feels unfinished. What I mean is some things are not what i expected. For example, i use google talk alot and with Froyo, the icon in the bar was a Sense based one. Now it's just Google Talk. This is fine, but i have to ask - was this on purpose? or a slip up?
next, I don't like NOT being able to disable ALL animations. In froyo, i could turn off the clock animations, weather ones and even the OS ones. I like that. In this one, I can't... only OS.
I have a had a few FC's with google voice setup (cleared up once configured) and Scrabble rarely notifies me of a move, but those could be app related.
battery life remains to be seen since I need to charge my phone all the way up while powered off.
it's definitely quick, but it took like 5 minutes before I started missing Synergy. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with the update.
It's a nice temporary fix for my ocd rom flashing but i think devs and most others are waiting for the final ota with some bug fixes. Isn't this lacking the new radio as well? Otherwise I am really happy it looks like they fixed the low space /data/data notification.
If we are lucky the devs will pump out some amazing roms for us that are stable and fast. Just gimme pulldown widgets, 5-row apps, recent apps in notification, and remapped rosie buttons and i'm set!
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The ones posted in this forum are missing the radio but that is because the source that gave it to our devs asked that they not include the radio when they compiled and uploaded the rom. For what reason? Who knows....
I think the update should've added sense 2.1..
I miss power toggle pull downs and right rosie, but other than that, everything for me just works and works fast. If someone can add some 2.1 features, that would be nice. Been on this since it came out, zero issues, zero lag. I use my phone for business with some music, dont install more than zbout 4 apps. Everything flies. Look at it this way, if no other roms could ever have been ported over, is this a good update from when you first got your dinc? I say hell yes. The ports are great, im not baggin cause ive flashed every rom here, but this was made for our phone. Could it have had 2.1, sure, would it have worked as good, i doubt it. All ports have some issues, all be it very minor, but they also develop lag and more issues the longer you use them. Im willin to wait a week and see what happens, im sure we will see a different ota eventally, fat lady aint singin yet.
curious about battery life
I've been using miui and have been getting good battery life. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the new ginger
All I could think about was how ridiculously fast Sense 1.0 would be on any Gingerbread ROM.
If i were a dev I would definitely be cooking up a clean, streamlined, unbelievably fast Sense 1.0 ROM for users who don't need what 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 have to offer.
That being said, as far as the OTA goes... We'll see?
I like the speed of this OTA, too. It's very snappy. But I'm having a problem with voice input recognizing speech. Is this a problem for anyone else?
I was using bluetooth and I said open calender and it would randomly pick a number to call from my contacts.
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It's a problem with GB in general. Try using voice search while driving and you can scream in the mic until you're blue in the face. It won't recognize anything you say.
Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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It might be a combo of things. All I know is it worked perfectly for me on Froyo.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4399393a95831baa&hl=en
It was fun to try it out and it's fast, but I went back to Community RC5. I won't be looking back, im sure OVO will rip whatever is good and stick it in community.
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those (clarification... other devs out there, my bad) devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
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OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
veer01_42 said:
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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cliefan said:
Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
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Pull all your apps in manually? When was titanium back up automatic
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veer01_42 said:
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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Only thing changed in flexreaper is soft touch (home, back, menu )buttons with mirror effect.
The ring you can flash to stock look.
Yes you have a right of your own opinion . So do I.
I like that you piss on me and then say "don't be offended blablablabla".
About battery life, if you would be as smart that you think you are, you would know it takes a few full recharges before battery settles. If that doesn't work wiping battery stats will make a big difference.
So let me explain like a 5 year old ,
You big man go to cwm ( clockwork mod) ,blablablabla.....
You want stock icons, you open systemUI.apk with blablabala.
You should be able do make full rom now.
But please big man don't be offended we do this for users like you.
A nice pm with question to have stock buttons would have been more respectfully.
But I don't expect that from a 3 year old , my little boy of 2 got more sense and respect then you.
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OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
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Man...that statement right there is garbage to me...
The generation of entitlement.
Xda provides a free forum to use. Devs put in may many many hours and allow us to use their roms for free... Tell me who gave him the right to come on here call some else's work atrocious?
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I didn't use titanium. I have all my files on a external SD card. All i ever have to do with a Droid reinstall is app installs and the OOBE handled that for me before quite nicely.
I said the EYECANDY was atrocious. Not the whole rom...
Wrap ur head around it. Its like you built a car and i said i didnt like the colour you painted it in. I have every right to comment on what i think of their customisations especially if its true. I like the under the hood work and i pointed out where taboonay needs some work, but what i didnt like i said.
I did my fair share of customisation and skins back in the XP days and got pretty heavily criticised myself. I stopped skinning with Vista and 7 because to me the UI was "good enough". The same with ICS. The UI is good enough so i PREFER roms with few UI customisations. That doesnt mean i think they're bad.
Have you seen the collective's ROM? Its gorgeous!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439351
But that's just MY OPINION. Others may or may not share it. Just swallow it and move on.
If you have a problem with that then go take a time out and come back when ur ready to act like a grown up instead of a little kid who hates being criticised and judged.
Tried the battery wipe with taboonay, didn't work.
Right after Lightspeed, it did not give any problems at all.
The mirrored buttons was the thing i hated the most on civatoflexreaper. and prbably the only thing, that said i didn't know how to change it and am reaching a point in my life where i'm tired of messing with stuff. I just wanted a clean working ICS ROM.
I was making a general comment to the devs as a whole, particularly the ones who go nuts when using every effect in photoshop on every button they can find.
I did take the time to say thanks for all the hard work and that i appreciated it and I didnt spend too much time in your ROMs so people knew, "hey my statements are pretty general and maybe they should look for themselves before making a final decision"
All i criticized was the theming, don't take it personally. Quite frankly i even hate Acer's stupid acer ring customisation. After about 5 minutes i realised that it added nothing to my experience and was totally pointless. I even looked into removing it from your rom but was so tired i just looked for another ROM.
And i quote "No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste"
I'm sorry but when i see something ugly i say it and i say it nicely. People worse than me would do the same thing and the word atrocious would be the least troublesome word in their vocabulary.
I'm sorry if i offended but that was not my intention.
If i continue to offend in future, i simply will not mention your work at all. Congrats on the kid btw.
I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........
Fair enough i can respect that.
I don't usually contact modders, bad past exp from way back. I leave my comments and walk away, I don't make a habit of making requests and asking people to change things. Mainly because they never do.
I use as much tact as i can, believe me i do, however im a fairly harsh case. That said i can appreciate hard work. I was brought up the old way too. I may be a child of the 90's but i grew up with an old school family. Even thou, I've had to be harsh to get by and that, unfortunately, comes through, even on text.
I speak my mind and I've grown accustomed to dealing with the fallout single handed. But if I'm wrong i will say I'm wrong.
I know what you mean about the kids. Respect is a two way street. I deal with kids way too often, I know. I'm a harsh, but fair person.
Peace.
I tried Flexreaper and agree with you on how it look. Now I'm on Tabooney but the battery life is as good as Lightspeed. Tabooney is the best ICS ROM, at least for me.
Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.
0tuzb1r said:
Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.
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Might be another issue, I use taboonay and with wifi set to sleep when screen is off and will get 2 1/2 to 3 days.
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The battery is worse than HC all round for true, but I'm guessing it might be due to non-final drivers and packages. Once the final acer release is out, it might be a different story. For not the battery is good enough for me 3 - 4 days with minimal use and im good.
Or it could get worse...there's nothing to say Acer will fix any problems. Just need a decent kernel.
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civato said:
I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........
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Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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resurrection of old topic, im not saying anything
Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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Ah , well I talked to veer in pm and he is OK,
Let me put it this way , if we all had the same taste there was only need for one rom.
Just one comment about flex reaper and people still saying it looks not good.
Did you try scrolling down a little to the mod part and flash full stock ICS look, if you have a little read skill you can see you can bring flexreaper to full stock ics look with no blue buttons or battery %.
I think reading is harder for some then just sitting at there pc and post some crap
And that is maybe all about intelligence and not taste.
The option is there you just need to see it.
How about an current update?
This thread's comments are really old.
When the comparrisions were made I think that was when LightSpeed was a 4.4 or less and Flexreaper was at about R12 or less.
Since then Flexreaper has made a lot of updates and Lightspeed has made a few too.
I never tried Tabooney so I don't know where that is at, but it's probably been updated too.
I tried Flexreaper and Lightspeed back a few versions ago.
I liked Flexreaper over Lightspeed. I like all the extra work that has gone into the different Flexreaper looks you can chose from. Lightspeed was just too bare bones for me. But you may like that.
I haven't yet gone to the ICS kernel so I'm starting to fall behind in the Flexreaper updates. Civato is a real busy guy and I just can't keep up with him. Keep up the good work.
Any updates comparing the latest versions of the top ICS versions would be appreciated.
Thanks