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The EVO's sister shows up on Verizon

Looks like the EVO's sister, or the evo refined...a lot!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/27/mysterious-verizon-bound-htc-handset-appears-mysteriously-on-the/

You can bet it won't have 4G speeds though.

they better hope its not plauged with all the sh*t our phones were supposedly plagued with... funny thing.. I have yet to suffer any of the things people were saying. I get good battery life, no screen separation, no cracked button, blown speaker .. or had it stolen LOL all on hardware 002
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Wow that thing does have the aesthetics, I'll give it that.

Jim M said:
You can bet it won't have 4G speeds though.
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I'd give up 4G that I can't get where I live anyway, if they'd give back the $10/mo I have to pay.
I wanted this phone mostly for the 4.3" screen. The 4G isn't all that important to me.

GaryJ51 said:
I'd give up 4G that I can't get where I live anyway, if they'd give back the $10/mo I have to pay.
I wanted this phone mostly for the 4.3" screen. The 4G isn't all that important to me.
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If you're worried about monthly cost, don't go to VZW.

Jim M said:
You can bet it won't have 4G speeds though.
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I could live without 4G. That phone is dead sexy.

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You can bet it won't have 4G speeds though.
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I would actually bet money that that is their first LTE phone. They're supposed to be releasing a LTE aka 4G phone this November, this might be it.

I kinda want to go steal me one right now..

Once you get 4g you will never want to be without it. I am getting 3mb - 11mb everywhere and I am amazed at the speed difference in all apps.
This is exactly the evo with a bigger kickstand (which I would love a bigger kickstand, one that can support it in portrait mode would be killer)

donatom3 said:
I would actually bet money that that is their first LTE phone. They're supposed to be releasing a LTE aka 4G phone this November, this might be it.
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Wonder if they're gonna charge an extra 10$ on there already high prices for 4g...
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bharris25 said:
Wonder if they're gonna charge an extra 10$ on there already high prices for 4g...
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If it is LTE ready, then I am dumping the Evo... I have been waiting to go back to big red. This way I don't have two separate bills from Sprint and Verizon for me and the wife.
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bharris25 said:
Wonder if they're gonna charge an extra 10$ on there already high prices for 4g...
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From what I read they're more likely just going to tiered data plans.

donatom3 said:
From what I read they're more likely just going to tiered data plans.
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When you get the bill, it'll it will be more like a teared data plan.

That phone does look nice! But not nice enough to switch over to the price of their plans! And their crappy service! In my area anyway....

I doubt that's gonna be on verizon. It looks VERY European GSM esque and it has a front facing camera.

Call me crazy, but I don't like it, or at least the back. Gimme simplicity, the back its too busy for me.
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Wow, that thing looks niceee. I'd definitely give up 4g considering I won't see that in my area until 2082.
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If that thing isn't fps locked I don't know whether to feel pissed or vindicated.on one hand if its not locked (and likely identical hardware) that proves that (as we already know) that HTC was full of ****...onthe other hand ill feel slightly raped.
Watch them ditch the HDMI port and have it unlocked just to avoid the whole mess.
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If that thing isn't fps locked I don't know whether to feel pissed or vindicated.on one hand if its not locked (and likely identical hardware) that proves that (as we already know) that HTC was full of ****...onthe other hand ill feel slightly raped.
Watch them ditch the HDMI port and have it unlocked just to avoid the whole mess.
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We already know that HTC was full of ****. There are plenty of kernels available with unlocked FPS.

Anyone else actually considering the Vibrant 4G?

I'm a serial phone swapper , but I'd have to say that the Vibrant (all GPS issues, the plasticy feel about it and lack of Samsung updates aside) was one of my favorite Android phones.
I'm seriously considering picking up the Vibrant 4G when it comes out. I love the screen, the call quality , and signal strength that it had. If this 2nd edition of the Vibrant lives up to those qualities of the first, I have no worries about picking one up!
Anyone else considering getting one?

If it was time for me to update on my contract I probably would.
I absolutely love this phone! Thankfully I've had no issues with GPS and honestly it doesn't feel as solid as my old G1 made by HTC. I only have a cheapy silicone case on it that I literally got for $3 from Japan thru ebay, and I've dropped it a few times from around 2-3 feet and the phone didn't miss a beat.
So even tho it feels light and cheap it def holds up, even with just a cheap case.
And yes , Samsung is horrible with the updates, but we've also found that it is also TMO's fault as well.
But IDC bout updates, we have the greatest devs giving us ROM's that make my phone feel literally 10 times faster and smoother than my g/f's stock Nexus S!
Also, I got a front facing camera from a buddy for $20. So My phone will be exactly like the 4G, aside from the fact of the 4G speeds of course.

i really was thinking about getting it and actually got as far as almost completin gmy ebay listing to sell my current vibrant before the price drops....but then i looked up some more details about the 4g and found out that it only has 1gb internal memory. Also, since the devs currently have vibrants, and the vibrant 4g isnt ThaT MUCh of an upgrade, i think they will stick with the current vibrant. So then the dev community will not be that strong for the 4g. Agreed, its an easy port between the two phones, but I personally have no idea how to do it and im pretty sure that all devs will be busy porting 2.3 etc to the current vibrant to pay much attention to the vibrant 4g....so im not jumping ship just yet

no
maybe when my 3g speeds max out everywhere i go, t-mobile lifts the 5gb throttle limit, or i actually find a use for a FFC. until then, i'm fine with the original

Not with Pyramid around the corner.

I figure by the time that the Pyramid comes out I'll be shopping around again LOL

I rather get nexus s...
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I am actually considering it, first i will see how far i get with customer loyalty(because my gps never truly worked on any rom), we've been with tmobile since voicestream(Probably won't matter to them anyways). If customer loyalty is willing to send a vibrant 4G at a reasonable price i will get it, if not i will wait for dual core. Honestly unless another manufacturer comes out with a super amoled+ display i don't see myself leaving samsung. They suck with updates but xda pushes out way better roms than stock.

My wife works for Tmobile so I'll be getting it She gets 3 free phones a year...so yeah

I won't be spending money on it, but I will be calling the customer loyalty department and finagling a free Vibrant 4G out of them for pulling a shenanigan like this.

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Not with Pyramid around the corner.
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My thought exactly.
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If i didnt have the vibrant now i would, but im just gonna wait til the N2 comes out

Maybe this will change your minds..
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/02/t-mobile-wins-msnbc-speed-contest-with-samsung-galaxy-s-4g/
Nuff said..I'm getting one!!

Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!

htc pyramid ftw!

Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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en oh...
no

What happened to #neveragain?
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blackerwater said:
Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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Yes It will fit in your vibrant
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Oxirane said:
Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!
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It's not 1gb internal. It's 16gb and comes with 16 external micro SD card. U start with 32gb.
1gb is for apps. And I believe its like 1.8 not 1gb.
Same as ours. Only difference is the back cover, battery, ffc, and it supports 4g.
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After my Vibrant was ruined in the wash I have to get a new phone.....WWOVOD?

I'm wondering, What would other Vibrant owners do?
Would you get another vibrant or another phone that is CURRENTLY out.
My contract is up in a month but I'm not renewing. I might stay with tmobile but off contract. I can't wait weeks or months for the next great thing. So if this was you what phone would you get?
I'm considering another, probably used vibrant. Cheapish and I'm familiar with it and liked it a lot.
A Vibrant 4G just for faster speeds. (Speed tested one in my neighborhood and pulled 5mbps, was told it hits as high as 8 on occasion. Regular vibrant pulled 3mbps or less most of the time.)
Or a Nexus S just because it will get upgrades and already has a lot of development.
Or some other phone?
Update 3/4/11: Went with a Nexus S. Samsung makes great Hardware and google handles the software and since I was paying out of pocket I figured the NS would last me a long time.

i'd go with a sgs4g.

um... whatever insurance sent me i guess

If I was getting a replacement off of craigslist, the hd2 is about 75 cheaper most of time. if I had enough cashI'd get a cheapy then get the sgsII when it takes in europe, go to att off contract for the lower rate plan. Yeah...
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Personally if I had insurance I would go with the one they sent me as long as it was another Vibrant or a fair upgrade. Otherwise I would go with the 4G. Seems close enough to the Vibrant that developers should be right along with lots of options for it shortly.

Honestly- just buy a cheap phone like the mytouch 3g and use it for a few (3 or 4) months until the sgs2 comes out here.
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used blackberry for 100$ , but it boots for ages lol

I'd get an iPhone.
J/k
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I just pulled 6mbs on my vinbrant 3g. I usually get 4.5mbs.
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jfdebo779 said:
I just pulled 6mbs on my vinbrant 3g. I usually get 4.5mbs.
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GTFO NO WAY ! ! ! but You are off topic.

Personally i would get a NS, you could get another vibrant but might as well upgrade. The NS is a good phone esp since it has better development support like you said. And with the current release schedule of Android (purely speculation) i wouldnt be surprised if we started seeing IceCream by mid summer to early fall.

Shakes head at dan brutal
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used hd2 runs winmo 6.5/froyo/honeycomb sdk/win7. Can't beat that really. Might I add working gps to boot.
If you could wait a week or two, I'd get an lg optimus 2x. I know you said waiting weeks would not really be viable, but......
Or find a cheap old smartphone to hold you off till lg optimus2x. Like my old mytouch or a blackberry.

I would consider getting the Nexus S, for the update schedule alone. I'll never buy another Samsung phone (because of the software support;exception being the Nexus S). The LG optimus 2x looks good but I'm not sure if it can be rooted easily.

I love my sgs!

I would get a Motorola Defy off of craigslist and start looking at a Honeycomb or Ice-cream phone to upgrade to.

Well I looked at a few but in the end I went with a Nexus S. I love samsungs hardware but don't want to have to deal with slow updates or touchwiz (even though I like a few things about it).
And really I was super tempted to just get another Vibrant since there are some great Vibrant Devs and a lot of great rom's and mods.

are you getting T-Mobiles SGS II? (Hercules)

Long time reader, occasional poster.
Well, it seems as if it is time to move on from my amazing Vibrant. I have had this for about a year now and it has been my best and favorite phone to date. The devs have been amazing, and everyone on these forums have been fantastic as well.
This isn't a good by, just curious to see if any of you are moving on, and what your thoughts are on it? I would love to see some Team Whiskey on the Hercules, some CM7 love (thats a given), and even some Einherjar Dev's on the new phone.
So what do you say? Will i be seeing more of you in the near future?

Not to the SGS2.
I'm waiting for the Google/Samsung conference event next week and that will decide that. If Verizon is gonna have the exclusivity on the Prime for more than 6 months, I will pick up an HTC Amaze 4G. If not, I will wait 1-3 months and get the one phone to rule them all- Nexus Prime.
T-mobile's SGS2 is a tad outdated in its camera department, screen resolution, and audio output. It's a nice phone but the Amaze 4G is just a hair better imo due to it's back-lit illuminated camera. Nexus prime...well that's nexus prime. Obliterates every phone is just about every department.
I'm quite happy with my Vibrant for now though. CM7 themed beautifully and incredible usability coupled with 1.5Ghz CPU, 1800mah Samsung genuine battery, 32GB microSD +16 internal for 48GB total, audiophile-grade audio out, and impressive screen and form factor? Sorry but this phone is just now at its full potential and I see no reason to upgrade. 3400 Quadrants and no lag anywhere.

iPhone 4S or Nexus Prime, depending on Coverage and Price. I'm leaning towards the iPhone because the Battery Life is great, iCloud is good, and they have a better ecosystem than Google.
However, the rumored hardware in the Nexus Prime is enticing. If it's on T-Mobile, though... I'm gonna have to pass. Dunno why Google keeps launching Nexus phones on T-Mobile. They have the worst coverage of hte 4 carriers, by far.
I'm moving in a few weeks, so I'll have to wait and see how it all pans out...

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cannot wait...

NOPE, Hercules is going to be Vibrant part 2. Another phone with zero updates/support, especially since it is different from all the other SGS2 phones.
Nice phone, but nope. I rather get Amaze over Hercules.
Waiting for prime though.

I will be getting the hercules because it is Samsung!
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I would get it if i had money but i dont so ill just save up for prime or next in galaxy s series
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N8ter said:
iPhone 4S or Nexus Prime, depending on Coverage and Price. I'm leaning towards the iPhone because the Battery Life is great, iCloud is good, and they have a better ecosystem than Google.
However, the rumored hardware in the Nexus Prime is enticing. If it's on T-Mobile, though... I'm gonna have to pass. Dunno why Google keeps launching Nexus phones on T-Mobile. They have the worst coverage of hte 4 carriers, by far.
I'm moving in a few weeks, so I'll have to wait and see how it all pans out...
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Coverage depends where you at. Also T-Mobile is developer friendly. Cyanogen and his team have gotten free phones and tablets to develop on for t-mobile. I don't know what your talking about but Google cloud system is far superior than icloud. Battery life will always be great on a device that can only take low speed 3g. Hspa+,LTE,Wiimax all use higher bandwidth than. Which cause more battery drain. To be specific T-Mobile coverage on the east side is better than at&t and Sprint coverage. On the west aide at&t is has better coverage. Also Verizon has the best coverage all around but be ready to pay an arm and a leg.
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The quadrant for hercules 3341 sweet huh
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deeznutz1977 said:
The quadrant for hercules 3341 sweet huh
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If this is using quadrant this makes me think that Samsung change Qualcomm cores from asynchronous because one this picture and the one from Tmonews.com score higher than the other variant from TELUS. I'm getting it day one.
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If this is using quadrant this makes me think that Samsung change Qualcomm cores from asynchronous because one this picture and the one from Tmonews.com score higher than the other variant from TELUS. I'm getting it day one.
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+1 I want to c it tested with CF bench
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Yea. Just do what I did and say goodbye to tmo and hello to sprint. wimax is fast enough for me and throttling isnt an issue anymore. Plus I always have a boner now. Check my sig to see why.
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Yea. Just do what I did and say goodbye to tmo and hello to sprint. wimax is fast enough for me and throttling isnt an issue anymore. Plus I always have a boner now. Check my sig to see why.
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Sprint has bad service and doesn't really penetrate walls Hspa+ speeds get the same as wimax speeds. Not to mention T-Mobile has lower ping speeds as well. Let's not mention that if your phone breaks you need to buy a new phone instead of just switching sim cards. This phone is also fully aws compatible. As for throttling I never reached the cap to be throttle and all my apps sync every 5 minutes. Unless your tether all day and streaming YouTube or some video app you never reach it.
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The future looks very bright for Samsung. They have Cyanogen on board now which means more source code releases from Sammy and early CM8 release for Galaxy S2. Sammy has better hardware, better screen than HTC and thinner form factor. Im getting the S2 on Oct 12th.
I love the Nexus Prime too but apparently its a Verizon only release (which is why they dont have a Galaxy S2 model) and I dont want to wait 6 months for a GSM version to be released. Also there is word that Ice Cream Sandwich release is being pushed back.

I think I'm gonna wait for the prime. The Hercules seems great with a beefed up cpu but i can see driver problems in the future.
I wanted to get the Samsung Note but that seems that it will only come to at&t.
I don't see myself leave Tmobile anytime soon due to I use over 5g of data a month, I live in the east cost so all networks are about the same, also free tehrering and sum card switching.
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I'm going to be moving on to the next Nexus device, especially if it ends up on Verizon. I have been loyal to T-Mo for a loooong time, but as much as I travel, I need a network that is faster in more places (I spend a lot of time wishing I even had EDGE). I already have a VZW MiFi, and I depend on it. Running CM7 with no WiFi Calling can often leave me in the dust on cell reception.
I've always been a fan of Samsung hardware, but I'm not a fan of Touchwiz and the speed of updates. Not just from Samsung, but any manufacturer that is applying their own framework to the mix. I really, really enjoy tinkering with things, and if there's one thing I've learned from my Vibrant (which is my first Android phone) it's that not having a pure Google phone really hinders the process.
That said, if Verizon gets an ACTUAL Nexus device (pure Google) with LTE, then I'll move on over. If not, I'll cross my fingers and hope T-Mobile gets it like they always do and I'll just stay put. Swapping to AT&T or Sprint isn't in the equation, even if they somehow were the only one's with the "Prime". I won't swap if LTE isn't in the equation since here, locally, T-Mobile beats the pants off of EVDO in the speed department.
I honestly believe that people put to much hype into phone specs. No one can tell the difference between processors or much of anything else under the hood. It's fun to talk about and I enjoy geeking out about it all, but hardware changes every 6 months anyway. If you're buying a device based purely on hardware specs, you'll always be disappointed when the next thing comes out 3 months later.

i'll probably kill any one at the store to get one on the release date
okay... kill is a bit overboard, but a would not mind pushing people aside, or jump on them to get it muahahahahaha
kewlkid123 said:
Long time reader, occasional poster.
Well, it seems as if it is time to move on from my amazing Vibrant. I have had this for about a year now and it has been my best and favorite phone to date. The devs have been amazing, and everyone on these forums have been fantastic as well.
This isn't a good by, just curious to see if any of you are moving on, and what your thoughts are on it? I would love to see some Team Whiskey on the Hercules, some CM7 love (thats a given), and even some Einherjar Dev's on the new phone.
So what do you say? Will i be seeing more of you in the near future?
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quest4fire said:
I love the Nexus Prime too but apparently its a Verizon only release (which is why they dont have a Galaxy S2 model) and I dont want to wait 6 months for a GSM version to be released. Also there is word that Ice Cream Sandwich release is being pushed back.
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yes, it has been confirmed already the delay for the ICS and Nexus Prime launch, it's all over the news
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I think I'm gonna wait for the prime. The Hercules seems great with a beefed up cpu but i can see driver problems in the future.
I wanted to get the Samsung Note but that seems that it will only come to at&t.
I don't see myself leave Tmobile anytime soon due to I use over 5g of data a month, I live in the east cost so all networks are about the same, also free tehrering and sum card switching.
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same here, i wanted also the Prime and Note
unfortunately Prime will not be available on GSM anytime soon it seems
and the Note is only on the normal GSM frequency that is not AWS compatible
so that's why the SGS2 Hercules is the best toy until Nexus 3 Prime becomes available on AWS bands

No, I wont get any US version GSII

Id love to get one to work on...but im broke so probably not =/

I'm getting it, I'm pretty tired of my vibrant, this is the longest I've had my phone lol, so definitely wanting something new.
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Should I get an Epic 4g Touch?

My wife and I both have Epics. Her phone had a few bad drops and is about to die. Since my upgrade is coming on Dec 1, I'm planning to get a new phone and have her take my Epic.
But what phone should I get? There's unfortunately no better phone with a physical keyboard, so I'm out of luck there. I don't have a good sense for when the Galaxy Nexus is coming to Sprint so I don't want to end up waiting 6 months for it.
Should I just get the Epic Touch?
Thanks for the advice!

I don't think you can go wrong with the torch. But on Jan 10th they will be announcing some stuff... I am Sure a phone and there lte. I would wait until then.
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Quad core phones are right around the corner for Q1 and Q2 of 2012...id save that upgrade my man
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Hard call. My dad and friend have them and they're insanely good, but all the points given before are true as well. Depends on when the phone actually dies, I guess.

Sprint takes forever to actually release the phones they announce. So you'll have at least 4 months from now before anything extraordinary hits the market, probably longer. If that phone has really run it's course, then yeah, just pick up the Touch.

Ridiculous claim ^^^^
Wait out for the announcement at least so you know what to expect. You can always just turn around and get it still, for cheaper maybe. My friend just got the tmobile varient and WOW it felt great to hold I love me big phones. Lol
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Like others have said, you should wait. Sprint will be announcing something soon and we who knows, we might get a WiMAX Galaxy Nexus.

i hope they dont ruin a galaxy nexus with jank ass wimax.

I love the touch but the only issue I see is that it has a big problem with LOS (loss of service). I've rooted and flashed several roms on it and nothing seems to help. Besides that it is super smooth and has a screen like no other
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As a temporary fix, you can find Evo3D's and Nexus S's pretty cheap used these days. Then if you want to hold on to your upgrade until spring 2012 you will have something to play with in the mean time.

Thanks. I think I will get the touch on dec 1. Wish there were good deals for upgraders. I'm going to have best buy price match Amazon's 149 price.
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Thanks. I think I will get the touch on dec 1. Wish there were good deals for upgraders. I'm going to have best buy price match Amazon's 149 price.
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Its not the price you have to worry about its the contract.
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I'd wait a month.
Sprint has a special announcement on January 10th. Most agree it'll probably be the Galaxy Nexus.
The Epic 4G Touch has radio dropout issues. Same crap Samsung support.