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I'm interested in hearing peoples opinions on this.
1. Do you think Gingerbread will bring a complete interface overhaul? I'm talking animations, images, layouts, multi tasking, notifications, launcher & more
2. Do you think it'll be like sense, improving social network integration, tidying up a lot of images images and adding a bit more functionality to widgets etc?
3. Do you think it'll be like a skin, simply taking image files that exist throughout Android and making them look more modern?
If they do infact do (1), do you think we'll lose functionality of some applications? Will apps have to be designed or positioned differently on Gingerbread?
I'm very excited for this, especially after seeing a video of MeeGo OS running on a smart phone, it looked so fly. In my opinion Google is going to need big changes to compete with MeeGo's interface (Not saying MeeGo is gonna take out Android, just saying it looked really nice & polished compared to Android's current state).
Google did good work in 2.1 with the launcher, app draw, animated backgrounds etc. but the stock images, buttons etc look so old. I think it needs an overhaul!
Well apparently 3.0 is gonna give the whole UI and device a revamp of looks so i cant wait to see what they do, I hope they make android become as polished as ios and bring smoother scrolling in.
LevitateJay said:
I'm interested in hearing peoples opinions on this.
1. Do you think Gingerbread will bring a complete interface overhaul? I'm talking animations, images, layouts, multi tasking, notifications, launcher & more
2. Do you think it'll be like sense, improving social network integration, tidying up a lot of images images and adding a bit more functionality to widgets etc?
3. Do you think it'll be like a skin, simply taking image files that exist throughout Android and making them look more modern?
If they do infact do (1), do you think we'll lose functionality of some applications? Will apps have to be designed or positioned differently on Gingerbread?
I'm very excited for this, especially after seeing a video of MeeGo OS running on a smart phone, it looked so fly. In my opinion Google is going to need big changes to compete with MeeGo's interface (Not saying MeeGo is gonna take out Android, just saying it looked really nice & polished compared to Android's current state).
Google did good work in 2.1 with the launcher, app draw, animated backgrounds etc. but the stock images, buttons etc look so old. I think it needs an overhaul!
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msavic6 said:
...and bring smoother scrolling in.
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This... very much, this.
It's amazing to me that third-party launcher replacements offer perfectly smooth scrolling and the stock OS doesn't. I don't get it.
I also want a whole new camera interface with more control, and a built in note pad,to-do list, the basic functionality of a regular cell phone, better market support like the ability to block certain developers apps from appearing and higher quality apps as well as maybe a ui revamp in the market app. Also make more use of the gpu for graphcs. One last thing add a stock widget that displays time and weather and make it AMAZING.
Thats all i really want
OH and a better stock keyboard.
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My predictions.
- Hopefully a new Multitasking UI
- Improved or customizable notification bar( hasn't changed since 1.0)
- General graphic UI revamp.
A Google employee said of you look at the Nexus One gallery app,expect a similar vibe for the whole UI in Gingerbread.
Oh god, we're just two days into august, the speculation can't start now. Gingerbread was mentioned to be released at the end of the year, which probably means Q1 of 2011. That's quite a ways away!
Once you get this gingerbread speculation rolling, we'll never see the end of it, considering it's only august!
Forge94 said:
A Google employee said of you look at the Nexus One gallery app,expect a similar vibe for the whole UI in Gingerbread.
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I really like the sound of this although I can't think of how they would do this? I really wanna see a web os like multi tasking too
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Oh god, we're just two days into august, the speculation can't start now. Gingerbread was mentioned to be released at the end of the year, which probably means Q1 of 2011. That's quite a ways away!
Once you get this gingerbread speculation rolling, we'll never see the end of it, considering it's only august!
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Speculation can never begin too early!
If anything, we're late.
I think they are gonna allow us to customize the UI as we see fit. All those Themes and UI's in the Nexus Forum will be able to be added to stock Android's without rooting.
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I think they are gonna allow us to customize the UI as we see fit. All those Themes and UI's in the Nexus Forum will be able to be added to stock Android's without rooting.
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Neat idea, although I think they'll still need a very nice & tidy stock version/overhaul to go with this as a lot of people will review the stock interface, rather than how you can customise it & many will never bother changing it too I imagine! (I don't understand those sort of people )
I think most of this UI overhaul is pure speculation based on the fact that google hired Palm webOS Designer Matias Duarte. He cannot possibly bring so much change in the few months he has been at google. But I will keep my hopes high that they can give a more smoother UI experience (where android phones/netbooks with additional graphics chip can take advantage of its hardware).
A strong and capable google official Theme Maker app (like metamorph) can bring alot of enthusiasm behind it. Would be tough though with so many unique android devices out there, how can they accommodate them all? :S
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I think most of this UI overhaul is pure speculation based on the fact that google hired Palm webOS Designer Matias Duarte. He cannot possibly bring so much change in the few months he has been at google. But I will keep my hopes high that they can give a more smoother UI experience (where android phones/netbooks with additional graphics chip can take advantage of its hardware).
A strong and capable google official Theme Maker app (like metamorph) can bring alot of enthusiasm behind it. Would be tough though with so many unique android devices out there, how can they accommodate them all? :S
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i agree. i also believe that many people speculate that Duarte will bring in many UI changes, but as you said we are talking about 3 months which isn't enough time for a person manage to change the whole look of an OS.
i would be happy if google could at least get their act together with the homescreen which is still laggy as hell and the app drawer which has laggy zoom animations on froyo.
Having all those great benchmarks is cool and sometimes froyo is really fast, but especially the homescreen is a huge letdown.
And the homescreen is the place which you will see most of the time...
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i agree. i also believe that many people speculate that Duarte will bring in many UI changes, but as you said we are talking about 3 months which isn't enough time for a person manage to change the whole look of an OS.
i would be happy if google could at least get their act together with the homescreen which is still laggy as hell and the app drawer which has laggy zoom animations on froyo.
Having all those great benchmarks is cool and sometimes froyo is really fast, but especially the homescreen is a huge letdown.
And the homescreen is the place which you will see most of the time...
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If it's laggy with you i suggest you return your device and get a new one... because this problem doesn't exist on the 3 nexus ones i've used.
I didn't realise he only had 3 months to work with it... :/
Although I imagine he has quite a team working with him to get a lot done in whatever time they have!
I'm running stock Froyo and I don't notice any lag in the homescreen and the app drawer. I installed Launcherpro before and I didn't notice any difference in scrolling. Both stock homescreen and Launcherpro homescreen have smooth scrolling.
Maybe someone can direct me with a video that can show me what a laggy scrolling is like.
yeah i dont get the laggy scrolling either, but then again i use launcher pro for so long now. i'm getting really sick of people comparing choppy scrolling, i want to make a video showing otherwise!! i'll admit certain UI lists do get choppy. but most are not so.
oh and doesnt anybody listen to android podcasts? last week android guys podcast leaked a little rumor that gingerbread was all about tablets, heard from someone directly involved. make of that what you will.
im personally against making the UI look more like iOS... i like the direction that windows 7 mobile is headed with the simplistic 2 tone menus and choice of text over icons.. things like pretty scrolling and fancy animated icons add more bloat
nobody said anything about making the UI look like an iphone, it was said to make the UI be AS POLISHED as the ios is.
norazi said:
im personally against making the UI look more like iOS... i like the direction that windows 7 mobile is headed with the simplistic 2 tone menus and choice of text over icons.. things like pretty scrolling and fancy animated icons add more bloat
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Gingerbread will make Android look like the Gallery app. If you watch the Google I/O videos on YouTube you see that a new music app is being used which has the UI of the current Gallery app.
So when they were showing off FroYo back at the conference, they already had some work done for Gingerbread.
I love the speed of my iconia tab but I honestly thought swiping through honeycomb would be a little faster. Does anyone use alternate home launchers with their tablet? I don't know if this is possible or not. I love the interface so I'm content but just wanted to get people's opinion on this and any particular launchers they really like.
Sure is possible. I loaded go launcher ex just to try it out and it worked fine. I would like to know if anyone is using a launcher specifically for tablets though, if there is even any available.
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Yeah, that's what I was really interested in. A launcher built for tablets would be something fun to mess around with. I feel like it could be tailored specifically for tablet functions. Possibly something like new windows 8.
ADW Launcher EX works, and is updated for honeycomb.honestly, though, its nothing revolutionary, none of the launchers are. I went back to stock. It may not be really fancy but it works, and well.
Have you checked out spb shell 3d for tablets? I don't think its out yet, but they have a concept video, and it Looks amazing. There's a thread on here with the link, in the general section.
lord_voldemort666 said:
Have you checked out spb shell 3d for tablets? I don't think its out yet, but they have a concept video, and it Looks amazing. There's a thread on here with the link, in the general section.
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The one in the video doesn't exist, and the one that is out now doesn't work on the iconia. And you're not missing much, I messed with it on an X and it was just plain laggy
I'm using Launcher Pro with great results.
I 've got ADW Launcher on my phone so I tried it on the Iconia. Even though it's a great launcher, for me it didn't cut it. It made the tab look rather like a big phone. It would be nice to have a launcher that preserves the tablet feeling.
I'm sure it's only a matter of time for Tablet specific launchers to roll out.
Personally, however, I feel that they got to step up their game to make something that adds more functionality and is more efficient than what the stock HC launcher provides. I'm not into all the eye-candy - its function over form for me. (pointing my finger at SPB)
It was easy to raise the bar with Eclair on up to Gingerbread as those OS' were built for the phone and those environment were rapidly evolving (and in some cases, differently from manufacturer to manufacturer) - with Honeycomb and the tablet environment third party launcher developers have had the bar raised on them (in terms of usability, efficiency and hardware) so in my opinion, it could be tougher for them to step it up.
Time will tell.
If anything - I would like to see support for skinning the tablet. 1 skinning app, developers build skins - release skins - users downloaded skins - use skinning app to apply skins. Done.
Hey guys,
I thought I'd drop by and say hi to everyone, you'll be seeing me here more often - just picked up my Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G from the store - totally loving it. I used to own the Galaxy Tab 7" previously, I sold that for this.
Still snooping around, initial impressions are great !
Any recommendations or any particular threads or apps that I must see to love my tab more? just drop the links here I'll check 'em out.
Once again, Great to know you'll
Cheers
Jackie
here's a tip for you;
When I got my 10.1 (day after launch) I was at first disappointed at the "lack of apps" for it but that disappointment was unfounded BECAUSE, I should NOT look for tablet specific apps which is unimportant....just look for apps because they don't have to be "tablet specific" to work, work well and look great on your device.
I now have more apps than I have space (16GB)
enjoy your 10.1
Thanks a lot Jon,
To be honest, I've been lurking around in this forum for quite some time now, I've understood that most apps are actually optimized for honeycomb just that they don't mention it !
Lack of apps is of least concerns to me, apps for honeycomb keep growing, I also feel they'll be loads of new apps in the coming months !
Thanks a lot for the warm welcome !
Cheers
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Welcome. There are many apps out, but these are some of my favorites.
Thumb Keyboard. Makes typing a breeze. I also like the new text shortcuts button. Great for entering common words and phrases.
ADW Launcher EX. Faster than the Honeycomb Launcher. I really like the bottom dock as well.
Screen Off and Lock. I have it on the bottom dock of my home screen. Don't have to use the power button all the time.
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are there any apps that are wanted?
i'm a developer who recently got a 10.1 and would like to know what kind of apps there are demand for for honeycomb optimization
Would love, love, love a sports live scores app. Especially baseball. Right now the only ones out there are phone versions which only work in portrait mode and the text is teeny tiny. Can't wait for MLB At Bat to get tablet-ized (hoping it does anyway!). The only tablet version apps I really miss are some of the biggies like Yelp and TripAdvisor.
Welcome. I will second the thumb keyboard (life saver) and the adw ex launcher. Many forums here will help you set it up.
I would also like to suggest the following.
Multipicture Live Wallpaper- honeycomb crops wallpaper horribly, this fixes that and you can have more than one wallpaper.
Some good Widgets are wizz widgets, android pro widgets, HD Widgets, desktop vizualizer, folder organizer lite, and minimilistic text (although have fun- I needed you tube videos for this one.
As for apps I like- pulse for greader, xda premium, dropbox, folder organizer hd, Pandora, tune in radio and Netflix. (Which you have to side load-again other forums for those directions)
Have fun with it and kiss time goodbye due to customizing.
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jackie_jagger said:
Hey guys,
I thought I'd drop by and say hi to everyone, you'll be seeing me here more often - just picked up my Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G from the store - totally loving it. I used to own the Galaxy Tab 7" previously, I sold that for this.
Still snooping around, initial impressions are great !
Any recommendations or any particular threads or apps that I must see to love my tab more? just drop the links here I'll check 'em out.
Once again, Great to know you'll
Cheers
Jackie
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As far as games go, I am addicted to the labyrinth games. My fave is Atilt 3D Labyrinth (by Fridgecat). There is a free version for it. Also, there is a similar game called Labyrinth (by Illusion Labs) and a free version called Labyrinth lite.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Welcome. I will second the thumb keyboard (life saver) and the adw ex launcher. Many forums here will help you set it up.
I would also like to suggest the following.
Multipicture Live Wallpaper- honeycomb crops wallpaper horribly, this fixes that and you can have more than one wallpaper.
Some good Widgets are wizz widgets, android pro widgets, HD Widgets, desktop vizualizer, folder organizer lite, and minimilistic text (although have fun- I needed you tube videos for this one.
As for apps I like- pulse for greader, xda premium, dropbox, folder organizer hd, Pandora, tune in radio and Netflix. (Which you have to side load-again other forums for those directions)
Have fun with it and kiss time goodbye due to customizing.
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I've got some of those apps mentioned like pulse and stuff - I'll check the rest out ! Netflix and Pandora don't work in my country so I'm going to skip that. Thanks anyways
Half Decaf said:
As far as games go, I am addicted to the labyrinth games. My fave is Atilt 3D Labyrinth (by Fridgecat). There is a free version for it. Also, there is a similar game called Labyrinth (by Illusion Labs) and a free version called Labyrinth lite.
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Great - I love games, I'll check them out - thanks
P.S. Should I root my tablet now? any particular plus point in doing so - I am quite familiar with rooting, all my other Android devices are rooted. Just curious how it helps in Honeycomb.
Root would be good for using a ps3 controller for MAME / Genesis / Snes roms (which mostly work like a dream - check out jrioni arcade and gensoid etc.) I haven't done this yet but its getting more and more tempting.
Re ADW: does it run as fast as touchwiz? I was put off by reviews saying it was laggy... cheers
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Adw ex runs on top of touchwiz. You don't get rid of touchwiz. Its as simple as an app. You don't like it, uninstall it. I believe all the launchers have a lite version so you can check it out to see if you like it. Mostly you pay so you can resize Widgets and icons and download themes. Adw ex and launcher pro are the two that I have tried, Alot less lag, almost none at all. Wish Google would try one out so they could improve stock.
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Does any of you already have TSF Shell? I myself have it and it's probably the greatest launcher ever made. It doesn't lag at all, lots of functions. I was so surprised. It is available for 12.50$. It's definately a must have!
I was also really surprised how good it works on Desire HD.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tsf.shell
It is 17.00$/12.50€.
Not really worth it right now in my opinion.
Less fantastic than in the video, few things are missing.
Takes some getting used to since you can't swap between the home screens.
The lasso thing isn't really doing it for me since the 'gather' option isn't available.
Plus, once you have a nice arrangement of your apps and stuff, you better watch out not to accidentally lasso it and press arrange.
Also, re-sizing widgets doesn't work for me? Pretty annoying.
And the video had nicer looking icons but that doesn't really bother me.
they probably just hurried and released the launcher asap, and now just constantly update the launcher with all the missing bits, according to user experience
I wouldn't worry about missing functionality, that will be added quickly. I really like the concept, but it has some flaws in basic functionality - like changing home screens and lasso which is used only rarely until you setup the shell... also, no sounds when you press icons/folders... player widget displays SONGS individualy which is silly - it would be better to display artists or albums... etc etc... Pretty cool and smooth but basic functionality is missing... he better concentrate on basic functionality than on eye-candy....
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Does any of you already have TSF Shell? I myself have it and it's probably the greatest launcher ever made. It doesn't lag at all, lots of functions. I was so surprised. It is available for 12.50$. It's definately a must have!
I was also really surprised how good it works on Desire HD.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tsf.shell
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Did you made it your self ore what?
Just not that grate.. more funktionality before i use it as daily drive...
The launcher is just missing a few features.
What I'm missing most is just a Settings function.
I mean, the lasso is awesome if you're setting up your 4 screens but after that it's annoying.
There should be a mode where lasso is disabled and you can swipe through the home screens.
Also, when I lasso like 15 apps and select Arrange or something, it jumbles them all up in an order I don't like.
It's great that you can turn apps and put them anywhere you like, but for some screens I prefer if they're all neatly lined out, which is a pain to do by hand because it enlarges the icon when you hold it a few seconds.
Kinda sucks, but that's just my opinion though.
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Kinda sucks, but that's just my opinion though.
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It is pretty good once you get used to it, but it needs some adjustments.
IMO, looks are simply awesome but functionality is a C at the moment.
Can someone please post screen shots of non native tablet apps on the N10?
(Phone apps on the N10)
Also could you post screens shots of the Web browser in portrait and landscape.
Thank you.
Speedtest's app is a great example of a horrible looking phone app (tablet isn't nearby or I'd upload a screenshot). I mean it looks good and works, but it doesn't scale, at all. On the other hand, it isn't blown up like Google's Translate app. Not sure which I prefer
Do all phone apps look ugly on the N10?
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Do all phone apps look ugly on the N10?
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I have only had my N10 for less than a week, but for the most part, have been plesantly surprised how well the device scales almost any app. I was expecting ugly jaggies icons but that did not happen. Even scalling transcoded (640x360) videos look good. Of course HD videos (720p, 1080p) look fantastic.
There are exceptions to the rule but for me this is a non-issue.
You can also replace the ugliest icons with higher quality ones using one of the many customization apps on the Play store (e.g. "Icon Changer"). If you want to go extreme use one of the many custom roms that support theming and apply a theme with high quality icons and you will not be disappointed.
For just one example among many, I use the CM 10.1 based, Sintinel ROM 4.0 and installed "Theme Chooser Themes" from the Playstore. Then used "Theme Chooser Themes" to peruse many themes eventually picking "Crystal 2" to download and install. The process was quick and easy.
"Theme Chooser Themes" specifically supports CM10 and AOKP based custom ROMs. You need to be unlocked and rooted to install a custom ROM. If you want to stay stock then there are many customization/theming apps on the play store some of which can be used without rooting.
I hope this info helps.
I think apps only look bad when they won't work in landscape mode.
That is my criteria for accepting an app
Alan
Got any screenshots?