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[Q] How to Access a NAND filesystem without boot?

Hi guys,
I have a problem with my HD2. I have MAGLAR 1.13 and NAND rom from gauner "[23 JAN] gauner1986's Z-FI 0.1 (Desire Z based) [KERNEL = my own ]". + rafpigna 1.70OC kernel.
Everything works great but GP FIx was kinda slow. So I tryed to follow this trhead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900631&page=14 and I copied the sensors.bravo.so gps.bravo.so to /system/lib/hw/. I didn't replaced nothing because these files were not there. Also changed permissions from 644 to 777 on /system/lib/libgps.so. And rebooted... (this is the ref http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=490930&d=1295171058)
Now after load the maglar and kernel, when it shows the "HTC Quietly brilliant" phone just won't leave this stage.. and won't boot... just cycles on this stage.
I need to access filesystem to remove those files from it. How can I do it without having the phone booted?
Tks,
pmjcr

Can I do it from AD Recovery?
I can see that with MAGLDR 1.13 I have a AD Recovery mode. And if I put a zip on root of sdcard I can make ate least something... What do I have to put on the zip file in order to delete these files?...

Also see that in these zips there is a META-INF\com\google\android\update-script
In this script usually I has these commands
ui_print("Formatting System..."); to print something to the screen
format("MTD", "system"); I believe this is for formating partition
mount("MTD", "boot", "/boot") This should be to mount....
What I need is a "rm" command/syntax to remove sensors.bravo.so gps.bravo.so from /system/lib/hw
someone??...

I think I've found...
delete DATA:etc/hosts--------------delete("/data/etc/hosts");
on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936175
will try... fingers crossed

Your new sensors file may be causing the issue.
Since it appears you have Clockwork recovery, do a NAND backup then a file system format, then re-flash your ROM.
You can at least then recover the data area should this fix the issue.

I am not having any luck... this update.zip from root of SD is only for Clockworkmod and I don't have it... only magldr... As in menu i've seen "AD Recovery" I though it would work.. but no...

What is the AD Recovery for on MAGLDR and how can I use it? When I select it I will have "no boot sources".

Ok... I'm a little tired of searching... but I've realized that I need a way of doing an incremental update via DFT method. Anyone knows how?...
I really don't want to loose my s4ettings from my phone... everything was working so great... just the GPS was slow on fix... buááááááá

If you are going to continue to ask several questions in this thread between replies I suggest you edit one post over and over. It is difficult to help when you're having to quote many different posts.
If you don't have Clockwork recovery installed then you have a problem - sort of. You won't have AD Recovery, and installing it will wipe your current ROM.
My suggestion is you download CWR 1.12 which is the SD Card method, put the zipped files in the ROOT of your SDCARD and use the SD AD or SD Android boot option in MAGLDR. This should give you the option to backup your ROM and flash a new .zip ROM.

dkl_uk said:
If you are going to continue to ask several questions in this thread between replies I suggest you edit one post over and over. It is difficult to help when you're having to quote many different posts.
If you don't have Clockwork recovery installed then you have a problem - sort of. You won't have AD Recovery, and installing it will wipe your current ROM.
My suggestion is you download CWR 1.12 which is the SD Card method, put the zipped files in the ROOT of your SDCARD and use the SD AD or SD Android boot option in MAGLDR. This should give you the option to backup your ROM and flash a new .zip ROM.
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Thanks for your adviceI was already on that stage trying a SD built. I've loaded and android from SD but getting an image required some more additional steps. I ended by installing a new built (the DL Desire one) that has a recovery method.
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,

I am curious about the topic in the title as well. I have access to a Mac and PC. Some sort of "USB" mode that allows access to the internal memory and not just the memory card.

Bit of a noob here, got a quick question!

So I just bought a HD2 last week, after a little trial and error I managed to install this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117787 following the guide in the thread.
Every thing is running fine, no bugs, really fast and am really pleased with the phone and rom.
The only thing that I am a little unsure of, is that looking around the forums at other roms and also in the MIUI forums I see a lot of people talking about needing specific cache/partition/swap (not exactly sure which) sizes to run each ROM, in the MIUI forum it says "rom need to be at 150mb for magler/cLK to work right."
But following the guide for the ROM there is no mention of this an I did not do this step, the only thing I did was use CWM to create a EXT and swap (just chose sizes I thought would suffice) to get apps2sd to work once I had installed the rom.
Now I know the ROM runs fine but my question is will it run any better if I created the correct sized cache/partition/swap (whatever the hell it is!!)?
Sorry for sounding such a noob but this phone is a little different from my old hero to install ROMs on

When you flash clockwork mod you can edit the size of the system.
Open the folder of clockwork mod you downloaded and edit flash.cfg file with notepad and change system size to 150M .
That´s it

When you flash clock work mod???
As far as I can tell CWM just runs of my SD card (if I wipe the files off the SD card that are provided with the rom, it doesnt load CWM when I hold the power button then choose the number one option)
This is what I dont get, is CWM supposed to be permanently flashed to the nand as well, like the ROM is? And if it does just run off the SD, then why does it need a certain system size and what does this do?

Okay i think i have to write much now
Okay first you flash magldr (it´s the ´base´)
then you flash Clockwork Mod via USB Flasher option in magldr:
"For MAGLDR 1.13, booting from NAND:
Download the file attached
Download a partition layout incl. recovery from this thread which fits your ROM you want to use best and unzip it into "C:\recovery" for example
Copy over the recovery image file from inside the zip archive into this folder "C:\recovery", delete existing "recovery-raw.img" and rename copied image file to "recovery-raw.img"
Flash the recovery and partition layout using "DAF.exe" as usual and described in the thread of raiderx or the ROM provider
Boot Recovery with menu point "8. AD Recovery"
You're done"
Go here to get it :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
Before flashing it edit the flash.cfg file like i described it before ,then flash the .zip ROM..

Thanks for the detailed reply, so I'm gathering that this will install CWM onto my nand, but as I have the ROM running fine and don't really mind that CWM runs from the SD card, are there any benefits to doing this?? And will I lose some storage space on the phone if I do this?

you can use the sd version too
I suggest that when you change your ROM next time ,use the nand version with the right partition .

[Q] Installing ROM [NAND] - don't have DAF.EXE

Good day fellow HD2 owners,
I'm truly sorry but just recently got myself a HD2 and been trying to install and updated version of a nice ROM.
I was able to get the following installed
Radio 2.15.50.14
HSPL 2.08
MAGLDR 1.13
ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.2.6
and then i found a DAF.exe file - (i had to leave the phone in flasher mode and the .EXE file did the rest). As you probably already guest the ROM is a bit out of date. So i tried to install a newer one. Well i came a cross many, many ROMS. But they seem a bit more advance and tbh i dont quite understand yet.
I been wanting to install the following ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188 - but i just dont know what to do after i donwload the file since there is not DAF.EXE file in there.
Also whats the deal with all the partitions on all that jazz??? If there is a tutorial or posts out there i will appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.
Thank you in advance.

daf.exe is basically the tool that partitions the NAND into separate sections, then it loads the image for each section into that section, , bootloader, recovery, data (blank) cache (blank) and most importantly, system.
But nowadays most roms don't use that method, instead you set up the partition layout the way you want it (it tells you in each roms first posts what system size to choose, this is teh important one, teh other sizses rarely need changing) by installing clockwork (which still uses a daf,exe to install , but only fills the recovery partition, all others stay blank) I'd recommend you get the nand tool-kit for partitioning.
Then, you boot into magldr, choose 8-AD recovery which runs the clockwork recovery program,. and from there you choose flash zip from sd card, , browse to the rom.zip you downloaded and put on your sd card, and the images for the bootloader and system partition are loaded into the blank partitions you created.
The plus side of doing it this way is that. assuming you aren't changing the system size (same sized rom) you can flash a new rom without needing daf.exe, and since daf.exe requires a PC, doing it this way means no need for a computer. You can downlaod the rom onto your sd straight through your phone and flash it on the bus, or at work, whatever.
Most roms come in two flavours, cLK and magldr (don't confuse cLK with CWM, two different things) you have magldr, so be sure and get magldr version.
Also, don't forget to set up an EXT partition on your sd card before you flash teh rom (You only need to do this once, not every time you flash) and the system will automatically use it as internal storage.

Trying to install CWM from sd SD kernel failed

I want to re-partition my NAND, and don't have windows around. So I downloaded cwm-sd.zip and cwm.zip. I extracted cwm-sd.zip to the root of my sd card , copied cwm.zip with appropriate flash.cfg inserted. I will reboot, go to Mahler, ad sd. (As described)
But I will get sd kernel open failed.
I try with the latest stable clockworkmod. 5.0.26
Any ideas what the problem might be.
I want to repart nand only, so any other ideas not including windows pc are welcome, I have pc with Ubuntu on it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

1st-sorry, don't know why its not entering cwm
But
2n- it doesn't work like that. you can't repartition magldr from SD. If it did boot "ad SD" it would run cwm, nothing more. The SD cwm is so you can backup/flash roms without having nand cwm, but it relies on the nand already being partitioned.
If you want to partition from SD use clk instead of magldr.

I have a working CWM installed. I just want to re-part, really.
According to this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
it seems this should be possible. I dont want to re-install CWM though, I just want to re-part. I can cope with terminal and adb , I think, and these options are (I think) available under linux, but I dont know how to do it

Well, I disagree, but hey, you have the info. I'll be interested in reading your how-to if you manage it.
(Also, from your other threads you seem not to have noticed that partitioning also installs cwm at the same time)

deckoff said:
I have a working CWM installed. I just want to re-part, really.
According to this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
it seems this should be possible. I dont want to re-install CWM though, I just want to re-part. I can cope with terminal and adb , I think, and these options are (I think) available under linux, but I dont know how to do it
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Even with this link i failed at setting up ADB on my Ubuntu machine but you may have better luck than i.

I am almost 100% sure I managed to do this way back in time. What I don't know is if I can use adb to partition NAND , and if so, how. Not to mention that the phone is not the typical android phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

samsamuel said:
Well, I disagree, but hey, you have the info. I'll be interested in reading your how-to if you manage it.
(Also, from your other threads you seem not to have noticed that partitioning also installs cwm at the same time)
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I have noticed it, I assume it will install over the existing one...
I dont have any info, I just cite a source. The process apparently fails for me, so I am stuck. I am probably misunderstanding it.

You CAN install cwm over the current one, by booting into cwm and then using flash zip from sd card, and selecting the new cwm.zip from your sd (just like flashing a rom), BUT this doesn't partition anything, it is just loading the contents of the zip into the recovery partition that already exists.
trust me, if you want to partition the phone without a pc, you need to be using cLK.

From the link above:
For MAGLDR up to 1.13, booting from SDCard (SD-files version):
Download the file attached
Extract the files to the root directory of your sdcard
Start recovery within MAGLDR with menu point "AD SD"
Recovery should start
You're done
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What exactly is this used method used for? It is described in the Install CWM methods(if I am not wrong)
Flash.cfg files in clockworkmod.zip are used to re-part data and user partitions. What happens if I re-flash CWM.zip with custom flash.cfg file inside via method at the top of the post. Or just flashing CWM.zip with flash.cfg via the installed CWM. What and when reads the flash.cfg files and act accordingly?
It is not a question of trust, I would love to know the basic workflow of the process

The cwm that comes with a flash,cfg is for flashing to nand via usb - magldr - usb flasher, or the cLK equivalent.
the cwm-sd version, and the process outlined in your quote, is used to boot into a valid working copy of cwm from sd card instead of the nand recovery partition.
For example if your nand version of cwm gets corrupted, .. for example trying to use rom manager under magldr, corrupts the nand copy of cwm, so you can load to the sd version of cwm, and use that to do a backup of your rom and/or reinstall cwm into the nand partition. It does NOT let you repartition the nand in the process. The partitioning happens via teh daf.exe and flash.cfg, , its daf.exe that does it. cwm just works with teh contents of teh partitions, not teh actual partitions.
If you were really tight on space, you could omit the nand recovery partition altogether and only ever run cwm from sd, gaining a whole FIVE MEG to put towards the data partition!

NativeSD simple tutorial

All tools can be download by these sites:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869673
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31256707&postcount=967
LEO is still the king!
Thanks a lot, securecrt and Xylograph!
I What is "NativeSD"
As the name shows, the SD card now do what native storage do. In other words, we can leave the nand and done almost everthing with one SD card!
II Benifits of NativeSD
1. Common benifits
Don't need to worry about bad blocks in nand, no need to adjust system size。
2. On premise of large storage of SD card
The partition used as native storage can be very large duo to your SD card(<32GB).
Muilt ROMs(wm,wp,androids)
3. On premise of fast SD card
Faster Read/Write speed than NAND ROMs,better。
III Install ROM
1. Prepare
*1）Android rom that support NativeSD, cellphone(LEO,with SD card, battery>50%), computer,cable,4EXT recovery
*2)Backup all your data on SD card(if you want to keep it).
2.magldr users
1)This is the case that you download the SD version of 4EXT recovery.
copy the unziped files to you fold "a" in your SD card.("a" is just a sign,can be any name,just make sure the folder is in the root directory of SD card)Notice: please make sure these files are in the root directory of "a",not any sub folder:clcad.exe,haret.exe,initrd.gz,startup.txt,zImage
2）This is the case that you download and already install the nand version of 4EXT recovery.
2.1Boot to recovery
if 1)
2.1.2 hold the red button while boot, when the menu of magldr shows, choose
10.Services，then 1.BootSettings，and then 3.AD SD Dir，loacate to your folder "a"，press green button to confirm.
2.1.2when back to magldr menu, choose 10.Services，then 1.BootSettings，then 1.Boot source，and then 1. Android from SD, press green button to confirm.again when back to magldr menu，choose 2.Boot AD SD。
if 2）
2.1.3 hold the red button while boot, when the menu of magldr shows, choose 8.AD Recovery
2.2 Now in recovery，Partition SD Card
2.2.1 choose advanced
2.2.2 choose Partition SD Card ->
2.2.3 choose Remove all partions and start from starth
2.2.4 choose the size of EXT partition as you want，all your system and apps will be install to this partition，so if you want more systems ,choose a big one.（must large than 512M）
2.2.5 choose the size of swap partion，I recommend 0(choose skipe).
2.2.6 choose Yes - I'm sure，waitting for the progress to finish。
2.2.7 when back to recovery main page
if 1）
choose power menu，then choose Reboot ，and hold the red button while boot, when the menu of magldr shows，connect the phone to your computer，choose 4.USB MassStg，repeat 1),2.1.1,2.2.2 and 2.3.7.2
if 2）
2.2.7.2connect the phone to your computer，choose toogle usb storage，copy you download rom to your SD card，safe eject，pull of the cable，choose unmount on the phone。
2.3 Install rom
2.3.1 choose install from sdcard at the main page of recovery
2.3.2 choose zip from sdcard
2.3.3 choose your rom
2.3.4 choose Yes - install ...（... is the name of rom）
2.3.5 wait for the install page to show，tap Next
2.3.6 tap Install to SD-EXT，then tap Next
2.3.7 tap RMNET Connection，and then tap Next
2.3.8 tap Next and wait for the install finish，when done tap Next
2.3.9 make sure Reboot is choosed and tap Finish，and hold the red button while boot ,when magldr shows, follow 2.1.1，but now "a" is response of folder "NATIVESD"。when back to magldr main menu，choose 2.Boot AD SD。
Now you can enter your new rom.
2.4 Install another rom
2.4.1 enter recovery
if 1）follow 2.1.1，when magldr menu shows，choose 2.Boot AD SD。
if 2）please follow 2.1.3
follow 2.3
2.5 Reboot to other rom
Enter one android rom，install NativeADMultiBoot.apk,when done,run the app，choose the rom your want to reboot to（pleasre allow root），then press reboot。
3.clk users（Three rom is avaliable，1 nand + 2 NativeSD）
3.1 install clk
3.1.1 unzip the file，put the file LEOIMG.nbh into the root directory of your SD card。then turn off the phone.
3.1.2 hold the volume mines and red button，when blue" loading..." shows release the buttons，wait a moment, when blue text shows inthe middle of the screen,press red button to flash clk，when done press the reset button or pull off your battery and reboot the phone。while reboot, hold back button to enter Bootloader。
please google how to use clk.
optional：change recovery to 4EXTNAND
**unzipe 4EXTNAND version's recovery，find recovery_leo.img，incase thst you put it in folder 'b"（please notice that "b"is just a sign here,you need to use a full directory such as d:/b）
**on Bootloader main menu choose INFO，then choose ENABLE USB DETECTION
**resize partion recovery to 7m，connect to computer, make sure the "usb" is show at the bottom of the phone，run adb and excute：fastboot flash recovery b/recovery_leo.img
enter recovery and partion SD card，if use 4EXT version recovery，please follow 2.2.1~2.2.6；or please the introduction of the recovery you used（not offer here）。
3.2 flash nand rom
please google.
3.3 flash sboot EXT rom
3.3.1 enter bootloader and choose settings then add sboot，wait the phone back to bootloader main menu
3.3.2when back to main menu, choose RECOVERY to enter recovery
please follow 2.3.1~2.3.6
3.3.3 make sure RMNET Connectionis not choosed，then tap Next
3.3.4 tap Nextand wait for the intall done，when finish tap Next
3.3.5 make sure Reboot is unchecked and tap Finish
3.3.6 follow 2.3.1，2.3.2，choose flash_sboot_v2.zip，and follow 2.3.4
when flash done, reboot to BootLoader and choose ANDROID SBOOT to enter the new rom。
3.4 flash tboot rom（thanks bojanbl）
follow 3.3，just replace sboot with tboot。
3.5 Reboot to other rom
hold the back button while boot to enter,bootloader，when the menu shows,choose a rom to boot。
4.a version of magldr that can be flash vir SD card，just flash it like you flash clk，if intereted,you can have a try.
View attachment SD_flash_magldr.zip

palce holder

Thank your for this How-to!

how about wp7 user?

dalfshiro said:
how about wp7 user?
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give this a try Triple Boot WP7+SD+NativeSD EXT4 @ 1 SD with pictures

mengfei said:
give this a try Triple Boot WP7+SD+NativeSD EXT4 @ 1 SD with pictures
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helpfull..thanks maaannn..:laugh::good::good::good::good::victory:

Nice tutorial...:good:
I think one thing is missing though...
How to uninstall one of the nativesd rom.
Regards
Rui

Thank you very much!!

Can't boot
I made EXT4 partition, and instaled Magldr, and than instaled WM ROM, and copied EXT4SD recovery (first one on list), extract, and use folder '4EXTRecovery' and paste to SD card root, and now, what to do(?) how to get in recovery mod, or, how to get to Magldr menu? Please help

NativeSD without flashing MAGLDR or cLK?
my background:
I use Android ICS and MIUI on Leo HTC HD2, booting from SD-Card using haret.exe in WM6.5.
I can't flash my device with MAGLDR or cLK, because it's leased and I have to return it back in some time with the original WM6.5.
Now my question:
Can I use native SD instead of "standart SD", because I hope it's faster, wihthout flashing any custom boot loader and destroing the original OS?
If I got it right, flashing a MAGLDR or cLK erases the complete device (except of HSPL and radio), right?
The only thing I dared to do before, was to flash the HSPL and a Radio Update, because this didn't touched the WM6.5.
I came so far to create a EXT4 and a FAT32 partitions on my SD-Card (32MB, Class 10) with "MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.6". Then I downloaded the 4EXT Recovery and booted it from WM6.5 with haret.exe, but now I'm stucked.
All I got is, the 4EXT Recovery do the same job as this MiniTool. It makes partitions on my SD-Card.
I planed to install NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.1 ROM as NativeSD, but I'm afraid I can't do this without flashing the MAGLDR or cLK and erasing the WM6.5
Any help?

thanks for the guide

leschakk said:
my background:
I use Android ICS and MIUI on Leo HTC HD2, booting from SD-Card using haret.exe in WM6.5.
I can't flash my device with MAGLDR or cLK, because it's leased and I have to return it back in some time with the original WM6.5.
Now my question:
Can I use native SD instead of "standart SD", because I hope it's faster, wihthout flashing any custom boot loader and destroing the original OS?
If I got it right, flashing a MAGLDR or cLK erases the complete device (except of HSPL and radio), right?
The only thing I dared to do before, was to flash the HSPL and a Radio Update, because this didn't touched the WM6.5.
I came so far to create a EXT4 and a FAT32 partitions on my SD-Card (32MB, Class 10) with "MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.6". Then I downloaded the 4EXT Recovery and booted it from WM6.5 with haret.exe, but now I'm stucked.
All I got is, the 4EXT Recovery do the same job as this MiniTool. It makes partitions on my SD-Card.
I planed to install NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.1 ROM as NativeSD, but I'm afraid I can't do this without flashing the MAGLDR or cLK and erasing the WM6.5
Any help?
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OK, I helped myself. Thanks!
Partitioned the SD-Card with 4EXT-Recovery again. Created 2 EXT4 partitions 2 GB each, the rest (25 GB) goes for the FAT32 partition.
Then installed the "NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.1 ROM".ZIP (was an AROMA installer) from FAT32 partition and it worked!
Altough it's all very slow and the second EXT4 partition is unused. don't know why the recovery aked my to create one.

"I What is "NativeSD"
As the name shows, the SD card now do what native storage do. In other words, we can leave the nand and done almost everthing with one SD card!"
I'm REALLY new here so this might be a naive question but does that mean we'll be able to run WM 6.5 and WP 7 in a dual boot configuration now? From what I've heard they can only be installed on the HD2's NAND leaving room for either or, but since you say that NativeSD can do whatever the native storage does I thought it might be possible to run them direct off the SD?

Thank you for this guide.