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What are the differences between the two, and the advantages/disadvantages. I have been told its safer and better to use a stable, preferably 11 or 14, for whatever reasons, but i was never really told why. Anyone care to explain?
kobyjd said:
What are the differences between the two, and the advantages/disadvantages. I have been told its safer and better to use a stable, preferably 11 or 14, for whatever reasons, but i was never really told why. Anyone care to explain?
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The stable kernels are the latest uncapped kernels running at 768 mHz with a standard CFS scheduler, which refers to how they schedule the queued tasks. The Brainfuct kernels are built on the BFS scheduler, which many people say is speedier, but it is slightly less stable, as in GPS may not work as well, and you may experience freezes.
Try out the latest Brainfuct kernel, and if you have instability problems, switch to the latest Stable release (currently 14 I think).
I've been having fc's with #14. ADW.process.acore or something to that effect when I wake my phone up. I'm just running the cm6 stock kernal, it is good enough for my needs.
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user7618 said:
I've been having fc's with #14. ADW.process.acore or something to that effect when I wake my phone up. I'm just running the cm6 stock kernal, it is good enough for my needs.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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True, the stock kernel may be your best bet.
I'm considering going back to froyo from EH17, and I was wondering what would be the best setup for battery life?
One I have in mind is SRF 1.2 w/ Genocide Kernel and EE03 modem?
It varies from phone to phone. I'm on SFR 1.2 with Genocide 1.0, EC05.
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It varies from phone to phone. I'm on SFR 1.2 with Genocide 1.0, EC05.
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Yeah I know. But if enough people tell me one thing, then I can assume that it would work on mine as well.
Just curious, why haven't you flashed Genocide 2.0?
Well I'm on latest genocide with cm7 clone running eco5 modem hd to many issues with gingerbreads modems, and I get threw the whole day 7 through 12 with a lot of use and if I rarely use I can get two days
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rulyskull said:
Well I'm on latest genocide with cm7 clone running eco5 modem hd to many issues with gingerbreads modems, and I get threw the whole day 7 through 12 with a lot of use and if I rarely use I can get two days
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Damnn! I think I might stick w/ SRF though only because I like the theme more and I've used it before. (not 1.2, but an older version)
My phone just likes 1.0 more than anything else with the exception of the Vision kernel that borked everyone's phones. Mine included.
I switched back the other day. I like sfr, but figured I would try something new, and went with random rom 2.2 phoenix with genocide 1.0, but kept the eh17 modem. So far so good. Random seems to be set up very good for max battery life. Staying on genocide 1.0 for now, cause after reading through the thread a bit, someone had posted that the rom is pretty much optimized for that kernel. I am, however, looking forward to some sfr 1.3 if it ever drops.
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My phone just likes 1.0 more than anything else with the exception of the Vision kernel that borked everyone's phones. Mine included.
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Haha borked. Excellent.
Adam, David should be releasing a ROM soon that I think your phone will like. If he changes to many things, Ill just release EC05OCEv4.
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Adam, David should be releasing a ROM soon that I think your phone will like. If he changes to many things, Ill just release EC05OCEv4.
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Can't wait for that one! Either one, or both!
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Its fantabulous, or tightitious... Both those words are spoken on a regular by a friend of mine Its probably what SFR 1.3 will be, unless they made an app to go with it.
I am looking forward too all of the work...yours, David's, and 1.3.
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For me the best battery life I have seen is on SRF 1.2 with the twilight kernel. I had nearly four hours of screen on time in like 28 hours.
Best I've ever seen length wise was like 38 hours but screen on time was less than two hours total.
SRF 1.2 is so buttery smooth it seemed like a new phone. Now if I could just get skypes front facing camera to work on Froyo.
Edit: Probably should add I am running JUWE's ram script. I find it easier to deal with and get similar results to V6. Running it at stock speeds so it is undervolted. I have also frozen DRM, SNS, and com.samsung.
I have had no issues now that I cleared all backups reflashed eh17 and eh17 modem and cleared everything before flashing
yes getting to battery, each one is a little different some last a little longer hard core use. to me depends on how many apps you have, where you start actually using phone the most and when not in use, i have settings app and shut down 3g till I need it.
And Everyones Phone is different.
Takes a Little Trying and Finding what Fits You!!!
Thanks everyone. I'm on Urban Regeneration right now and after giving it a daily spin, it seems to be pretty solid.
Hello!
Like the topic says I wonder which kernel you guys thinks is the best! Which one got best battery life and smoothest and yeah you know! And which ROM do you use your kernel with? Personally I think matr1x is the most stable kernel out there when overclocked. But Air kernel with pixel 1.60, nothing is smoother!
Share your opinions plz! have a nice day!
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bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
simms22 said:
bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
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Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
Stock kernel !...
because without stock kernel there is no custom kernel..
skizzled said:
Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
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Same here Skizzled... big fan of Matr1x, but am driving the Air Kernel 3.5_65fps. It has performed very well and has good battery life for me.
Steviemac
I prefer the aniDroid hardened but... b4 & b5 are so unstable.
Now i'm using air.
And waiting for stable anidroid hardened.
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Using Air 3.6 with only voodoo right now.
Fast and stable for me till now :thumbup:
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My favorite ROM is AOKP and for my phone steve.garon's kernel seems to be the best option for stability, battery life, and smoothness.
Using simple kernel here.. Adds voodoo sound and BLN without compromising on stability cause everything else is stock. I find ics on the nexus smooth enough already
Using air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue now.
Fast and stable for me. rom: GummyNex 0.8.2. work perfect for me!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
In my opinion, Air Kernel is the best
Matr1x kernel is not working properly with my nexus S, because of undervolt setting.
Simply, it does not boot.
air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue with Pixel 1.6 Lite Touch. Best ICS based Kernel/ROM combination for Stability and battery life I have tested so far. But, I normally end up switching back to Oxygen Rom eventually. I know it is GB based but who can beat a fast ROM which can get you uptimes in excess of 1000 hours with no need to reboot.
I use matr1x-cfs 18.0 and so far, everything seems to be fast and stable. The only times my phone reboots is when I play around with the already undervolted kernel.
Other than that, it's fast and I don't see a point of switching to other kernels unless they provide a feature that's not in matr1x.
Matr1x is the best for me battery life and performance.
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Matr1x kernel for me is always at or near the top can't go wrong with Matr1x the only time I don't use the kernel is if I'm on Peter Alfonso Bugless Beast Rom other than that its Matrix!!
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Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
Nuhetri v3.0.1 and airkernel v3.6 with voodoo colors! working flawlessly!
I've been on many different Kernels but in the end I always go back to Matr1x. It worms the best for me
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Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
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Thanks I just downloaded to give a spin I hope it work well on my Nexus S4G!
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buglessbeast+matrix best combo for battlife and performance
So I have an Evo which I don't use for anything. It has not number on it and I don't need it as a back up. I use it only for listening to music (speaker only) and taking and watching videos. Sometime I may connect it to wifi to download a certain app or to watch something on YouTube. So this thread could be called a survey I guess? But what's the best ROM out here for me to put on the phone in my case? I basically want battery life + performance + louder speaker (the Evo speaker sucks compared to my other phones sadly). I flashed the 4 kornerz (sorry if I misspelled) ROM and flashed the beats audio and the underworld kernel, but noticed a lag after flashing that kernel so I re-flashed the stock kernel.
I have not had time to actually use it and test out how it goes with my usage but I think it'll be alright?
I have also used Energy ROM (kills my batttery too quick) and CM7 (phone speaker isn't loud enough) so what other ROMs would you recommend for me? Or what mods or kernels would work with 4kornerz ROM that would ensure better battery life?
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I'm doing the same thing with my Evolution - typing on it right now, actually.
I'm using deck's 1.3d, mason .15 kernel, beats audio addon with go launcher. Smooth as can be and I get tons of battery life in airplane mode.
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I'm doing the same thing with my Evolution - typing on it right now, actually.
I'm using deck's 1.3d, mason .15 kernel, beats audio addon with go launcher. Smooth as can be and I get tons of battery life in airplane mode.
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That's exactly the kind of answer I'm looking for thanks =). I thought about trying an ICS build but wasn't too sure if I wanted to because I thought it might have some bugs or be laggy or have not so great battery life or sound quality decreased. But I'm going to test out 4 kornerz for a bit then will try your settings next. Thanks for the reply =).
Wait.. what's the ROM your using lol? When I first read it I thought you were talking about one of the ICS builds but I'm starting to have second thoughts. I'm not very familiar with every ROM out here because I barely use the Evo but can you post the link to the ROM? Or at least tell me what's the title of its thread lol? And also your kernel pleeeaseee.
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Decks 1.3d is his famous Gingerbread build. Search for it and you can't miss it. The thread title has decks, and. 1.3d in it I believe. It is legendary for being the best AOSP Gingerbread ROM with the best battery life and stability. Coupled with that kernel the above user mentioned, it will give you tremendous battery life! Much better than ICS at this beta phase.
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Is 1.3d better than 1.3? 1.3 is newer...
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Is 1.3d better than 1.3? 1.3 is newer...
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1.3d would probably be a later version of it, as a, b, c, and d. Probably just minor fixes through out that version.
No, I clarified it. 1.3d is just a beta, 1.3 is stable. 1.3 is newer.
*New Downloads*
gingerbread evo 1.3 Stable
gapps 8-28-2011
gapps 8-28-2011 with Voicemail.apk
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gingerbread evo 1.3d beta
gingerbread evo 1.3b2 beta
gingerbread evo 1.3b beta
gingerbread evo 1.2.1 Stable
gingerbread evo 1.2 Stable
gingerbread evo 1.0
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1.3 is newer, but i've had the best results with the 'beta' d version. runs like a beeeeeeeeeeeeeast.
Well I did find it and I will try flashing it as soon as I can. Is the stock kernel that comes with it the one that was recommended to me? Or where can I find the other kernel?
And I'm just kinda starting to get confused. Some people are saying 1.3 and some are saying 1.3d. Which one is better..? Logically thinking I would say 1.3d would be better since it probably just contains little fixes and nothing major updated but those little fixes may be a big problem to me without them so I think ill try out 1.3d unless I am told not to.
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if you were having issues with cm7 you may experience the same with Deck's as his is just a custom version of cm7, yet designed to operate on Sprint more effectively.
You say the speaker wasn't loud enough with cm7? Did you adjust the settings in DSP manager?
I have 3 EVO's, 2 operational and on is my 3 year old's "phone," he is an angry bird addict! I have the phone on constant airplane mode and simply turn on wifi when I would like to connect. We are constantly asking him to turn it down so no sound problems here.
I would recommend the cm 7.2 rc1 from the cyanogenmod website, and don't forget gapps.
Again Deck's is based on cm7 though he hasn't updated in a long time and there have been many many improvements to the cm source since he stopped building. Cm7 is also still a work in progress, they are not dropping support for it, though they may bring cm9 to the EVO eventually 7 is the current supported version.
Honestly, I think the advice above is sound, but I still recommended deck 1.3 with Mason v14 kernal without hwa. Or if you want more battery, flash the slightly less stable v15rc G version. G for nonhwa. And then I would clock down to about 850mhz as your Max (don't know the exact value but the performance settings in deck shouldn't be too hard for you to figure out) and then use the wheatley kernel if you're on v15rc or intellidemandx if you're on 14. Smartassv2 would be my recommended governor, but it doesn't play well with media when the screen is off so you take your choice.
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Well sound was only a problem to me because I have an Epic 4G which, stock v.s stock, is louder. And I've tried CM7 on my epic and loved it but the sound was a problem the same as on the Evo. But I guess I would give up sound for better battery life lol. I'm going to flash deck's 1.3 right now. But I still can't seem to find the kernels you guys are talking about can someone please post the link to the thread?
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So I just flashed the rom with the kernel.
I'm having one tiny problem.
I didn't install gapps (don't really need it) so I tried to bluetooth a file explorer.
I've noticed with bluetooth on the phone reboots? (It happened twice so far)
Ill keep trying the ROM out and see if I have more reboots. If its just bluetooth related then its not a problem
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One more thing. Not sure if its the ROM or my phone but the power button seems to not work so well. It turns off the screen normally but turning the screen back on is the problem. It doesn't turn on by just pressing it I have to hold it down and then the power menu pops up and the screen turns on.
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What ROM and kernel did you flash? Sleepiness is due to kernel undervolting issues... or kernel related at least. Bluetooth would be the same I would gather... sounds like stock kernel for you!
My original EVO loved underclocking, and I could squeeze a few precious hours out of the battery with the right kernel, governor and voltages. My replacement however will not undervolt at all... not even 25 mA... so each evo is different. I am of the opinion that stock is going to give you the best overall performance.
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...are you guys kidding me right now???
Mason kernel is for ICS, as in not Gingerbread so it will break things on Decks 1.3... come on man!!!
If you really want a great experience just flash CM 7.2 please and leave it be because those guys know Android and what it needs to love you long time... I apologize for the inconvenience of bad information...
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...are you guys kidding me right now???
Mason kernel is for ICS, as in not Gingerbread so it will break things on Decks 1.3... come on man!!!
If you really want a great experience just flash CM 7.2 please and leave it be because those guys know Android and what it needs to love you long time... I apologize for the inconvenience of bad information...
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But on the kernel's thread it said for "AOSP ROMs" and I did flash it and it worked. It does say it would also work on ICS tho.
I think I may just go to CM7 tho.
The april 8th update is better than the official one?
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Here is what you want...
CM 7.2
Wipe:
All/factory reset
Cache
dalvik cache
System
Boot
Then flash the ROM, no gapps for you if you don't want.
Mason says it apparently works on GB or ICS, but I don't see how that could actually be possible... though I am not a kernel dev... but your issues do seem to stem from a kernel issue...
I'd imagine using a sense kernel based rom like swagged out stock N would get you the best musical results, since it has a kernel that was specifically built for the EVO, and not something AOSP generic. Maybe throw the zip file in for beat audio, or use poweramp instead.
Swagged out stock N 2.0.9 with universal aggressive lionfish 1.8 is doing REALLY well for me. It uses the go launcher, instead of sense.
haha luckily ICS is based off of a GB Kernel, Tiamat. Mason has two flavors of his popular kernel, the "G" version which CAN be used for Gingerbread AND NON-HWA ICS Roms, and the "I" version which is strictly used for HWA enabled ICS roms.
also jamieg71 has aosp gb build that is being updated more recently if you wanna check that out havent run it personally but if its anything like his ics build it will be great
I just got a nexus 7 2 days ago and I'm going to root it this evening when I get home from work.
I want to have you guys opinion on which is the best/favorite kernel amongst you guys.
Personally Id like a kernel that's as smooth/fast as possible with decent OC capabilities. Battery lifes not an issue to me as I don't mind charging my tab everynight.
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Hi, I use Clemsyn's Elite Kernel, it fast and offers great battery life, you can also OC to about 1.7ghz but I stay at 1.4 as I find that fine
Just wondering if anyone else has tried glados kernel, it was running nice with great battery/performance but started causing reboots so I'm back to trinity. Will be keeping my eyes on glados though!
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I use the 520 mhz GPU version of Motley 1.1.1. I find it very fast and mostly smooth. There are a few problems with UI lag I have seen that seems to be related to this kernel but I can live with that because of the IO and general performance benefits. (Plus it will probably be fixed in an upcoming update anyway!)
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I use the 520 mhz GPU version of Motley 1.1.1. I find it very fast and mostly smooth. There are a few problems with UI lag I have seen that seems to be related to this kernel but I can live with that because of the IO and general performance benefits. (Plus it will probably be fixed in an upcoming update anyway!)
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Hey mate Nice phone you have there
I like Faux's kernels, I have always admired his work, the N7 is the first device with his kernel and I am using it right now
The newest kernel, from a few hours ago is slightly underclocked, performance is still top notch in day to day use, it has the tegra gaming fix, so many features and battery on previous version was great. I am looking forward to seeing what battery on this new one is like
I found Glados kernel to have issues randomly freezing where I had to press all 3 buttons to reboot it, and Morfic's kernel lagged a bit on the apex laucnher homescreen I have
No offence to those kernels/developers, but faux's kernel is my favourite now
But it is still early days in the life of this device
I tested all these with AOKP nighty builds
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Hey mate Nice phone you have there
I like Faux's kernels, I have always admired his work, the N7 is the first device with his kernel and I am using it right now
The newest kernel, from a few hours ago is slightly underclocked, performance is still top notch in day to day use, it has the tegra gaming fix, so many features and battery on previous version was great. I am looking forward to seeing what battery on this new one is like
I found Glados kernel to have issues randomly freezing where I had to press all 3 buttons to reboot it, and Morfic's kernel lagged a bit on the apex laucnher homescreen I have
No offence to those kernels/developers, but faux's kernel is my favourite now
But it is still early days in the life of this device
I tested all these with AOKP nighty builds
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Very nice phone
I will probably try Faux's kernel out sometime but i'm really holding out until an update rolls out for motley.
OFFTOPIC - Have you tried the nik's JB builds for IncS? And if so, how have they been? (thinking of flashing CNA but not sure if I should wait for the new kernel to function with AOSP.)
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Very nice phone
I will probably try Faux's kernel out sometime but i'm really holding out until an update rolls out for motley.
OFFTOPIC - Have you tried the nik's JB builds for IncS? And if so, how have they been? (thinking of flashing CNA but not sure if I should wait for the new kernel to function with AOSP.)
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Try faux's kernel, as I said its my favourite
Yeah I have, but they are not as butter smooth as they are on the N7 or even the Nexus S. I think it has to do with the hacked kernel and drivers. I am waiting for a proper kernel that can properly handle project butter.