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Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
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cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
KarlosTheJackal said:
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done
Okay, got my Epic because I heard it is easier to root, and I like the keyboard. First off, I rooted my hero and it was supper easy, is there anything like that for the epic? Also, the hero had a flash program I can run to take it back to OEM settings, is there something out there like that for the epic. Next, what is a good stable ROM that has some of the OEM progrmas and looks. I want to upgrade to froyo but not sure how.
Thanks for all the help.
Dan
Here's all you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
Opinion: Try the ROMs 'til you find what you like. Just because I prefer Quantum 2.7 doesn't mean it's the best. Basically, all a ROM is a person who got their phone working the way they want it and dumped the image for others to use (like I said, BASIC definition). It's not magical and they can't fix any of the problems with the OS itself but they do usually have workarounds in their ROMs.
I just recently rooted and put a new rom on. Read a bunch and tried a couple and stuck with the Bonsai rom. Love it. Waaayy better then stock. Really not that hard and all the info is out there just a simple search and the wiki helped me immensely.
check out the developement section. the first page will have everything youre looking for
All you have to do is read bro. Its all here for you. If you have a question with a certain step then ask but you need to read a little bit.
Is it actually possible to use Milestone's custom ROM for Milestone 2??
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Is it actually possible to use Milestone's custom ROM for Milestone 2??
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Sorry but just Milestone 2's custom ROM ...
good thing
good thing you asked, I was just about to start looking at milestone ROMS for it because they seem well developed so far.
So are there any custom ROMS for this? Probably a stupid question, as I'm still researching... (just about it yesterday, though from China, I pray someone makes one that supports chinese...)
You can try Motorola Defy ROMS. Milestone 2 ROM or Motorola Cliq 2 ROM works with some small changes on Defy.
Try nandroid backup and flash a milestone 2 kernel via RSD Lite
Milestone 2 Port for Defy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906465
Cliq 2 port for defy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914598
Theoretically possible, though I prefer using D2 roms, since they also include the bootstrap and very minor modifications need to be done.
uhhh
walter79 said:
You can try Motorola Defy ROMS. Milestone 2 ROM or Motorola Cliq 2 ROM works with some small changes on Defy.
Try nandroid backup and flash a milestone 2 kernel via RSD Lite
Milestone 2 Port for Defy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906465
Cliq 2 port for defy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914598
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Mikevhl said:
Theoretically possible, though I prefer using D2 roms, since they also include the bootstrap and very minor modifications need to be done.
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Gee, crap... I have a lot to learn. I've flashed a good 3-4 phones before with custom ROMs, but they were never as complicated as how the android forums make it out to be. I still have a lot to learn, I have no idea what a nandroid backup, RSD Lite, defy, boostrap, etc is. I have about 30 threads open reading up on it but none really seem to explain how each of these tie in together. I don't suppose theres a FAQ for noobs for android ROMs is there? Cause so far it's not relating to any of the vague flashing work I've done in the past for a Samsung Blackjack or a Sony Experia X1 Sorry for acting like such a n00b, haha.
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Gee, crap... I have a lot to learn. I've flashed a good 3-4 phones before with custom ROMs, but they were never as complicated as how the android forums make it out to be. I still have a lot to learn, I have no idea what a nandroid backup, RSD Lite, defy, boostrap, etc is. I have about 30 threads open reading up on it but none really seem to explain how each of these tie in together. I don't suppose theres a FAQ for noobs for android ROMs is there? Cause so far it's not relating to any of the vague flashing work I've done in the past for a Samsung Blackjack or a Sony Experia X1 Sorry for acting like such a n00b, haha.
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RSD Lite is a program you run on your computer by Motorola. It flashes official motorola releases without having the need of a working phone, so it has two purposes: Updating to a new motorola-release and restoring when the phone is screwed.
defy is a phone by motorola, which earns it's name because it defies water and dust
bootstrap is not something that's easy to explain, to keep it simple it allows you to boot into a custom recovery that allows you to flash non-motorola roms, like the project I'm working on. It also allows you to make nandroid backups
nandroid backups are direct dumps of system partitions packed into an .img, kinda comparable to ripping a dvd to a .iso file. The most important system partitions are:
/system <-- stores, well, the system. All apps and drivers and such. The partition is uneditable by default, but by gaining root acces (rooting) you are able to remount the system as read-write instead of read-only and are thus able to edit the system files. You could compare it to program files and the WINDOWS on one partition.
/data <-- stores your data, google login infos and such. It's always accesable. Comparable to my documents.
/cache <-- not really sure what it does
/recovery <-- this is the recovery mode on the phone. It is locked and unreplacable. It can be used to flash official signed motorola images but that's all. That's why we need the bootstrap app to launch our own recovery, the one inside /recovery is unmodify-able.
/boot <-- You've probably heard of this. The locked bootloader means that /boot is unaccesable for us. /boot contains very core stuff and for some people it's better that it's locked down.
Hope that clarifies stuff a little bit
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defy is a phone by motorola, which earns it's name because it defies water and dust
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heh i didnt know that ^^
Crap again, but this time out of surprise and appreciation. Thanks SO much. You probably saved me hours of reading and piecing this information together myself.
So you can backup and restore nandroid backups whenever you screw up a certain partition, is that right? And it sounds like one would need to run RSDLite to be able to use a Bootstrap which would then probably make use of some nandroid backups to modify and/or input some custom ROMS? And in some cases, custom ROMs are merely just modified nandroid backups? This is keeping deep.... haha
May I trouble you for a couple more quick summaries? How about: FissionROM, Angro2...something... I closed the tread that mentioned it (I've probably skimmed 50 threads so far), MIUI ROMs, dlavik, vulerable recovery, root (that is, installing something called "root", mentioned in the "Latest and Best guide" thread), GOT, OR (this means OpenRecovery I assume), CM, and uh... OK, thats it for now. I think I'm starting to tie all of this together. Whether these terms can be easily explained or not, I apprecaite the help you've given so far. Thanx a bunch
Spixe1 said:
Crap again, but this time out of surprise and appreciation. Thanks SO much. You probably saved me hours of reading and piecing this information together myself.
So you can backup and restore nandroid backups whenever you screw up a certain partition, is that right? And it sounds like one would need to run RSDLite to be able to use a Bootstrap which would then probably make use of some nandroid backups to modify and/or input some custom ROMS? And in some cases, custom ROMs are merely just modified nandroid backups? This is keeping deep.... haha
May I trouble you for a couple more quick summaries? How about: FissionROM, Angro2...something... I closed the tread that mentioned it (I've probably skimmed 50 threads so far), MIUI ROMs, dlavik, vulerable recovery, root (that is, installing something called "root", mentioned in the "Latest and Best guide" thread), GOT, OR (this means OpenRecovery I assume), CM, and uh... OK, thats it for now. I think I'm starting to tie all of this together. Whether these terms can be easily explained or not, I apprecaite the help you've given so far. Thanx a bunch
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There are two sorts of custom roms:
Real: Something build from the AOSP sources with modifications to it. They usually are way different from each other. CyanogenMod is the most famous with the most modifications to the AOSP ( Android Open Source Project ). Liberty is one of those and so is FissionRom. Miui is also a custom rom.
Fake: People that just modify stuff from others. Angro2 is an edit of the stock milestone2 rom.
Dalvik Android is an system which runs inside an emulator, DalvikVM. (DalvikVirtualMachine). It's comparable to virtualbox and vmware on windows.
vurnerable recovery, GOT, OR are terms which only concern orinigal milestone.
What you guys need to do to run a custom rom is this:
1. Root (download z4root from the market)
2. Install recovery bootstrapper (droid2 version from the market)
3. Use the recovery to install cyanogenmod, which I will supply
Thanks again Mikevhl, again, saved me hours (if not days) of piecing together info.
Am I right in assuming you are the creator of the CyanogenMod? You said you [will] supply it... may I ask where can we get it? I'd like to try it out. Do you know of any of these ROMs support Chinese by chance? Will yours? I live in China so its a necessity.
So it sounds like Dalvik would be slower than using actual ROMs, since it runs on top of the OS. Fake ROMs sound easier to make, so theres probably a lot of those floating around I would image. Right now I still have to learn the difference between all these ROMs, and which ones the MS2 can even use, since ROMs for other phones are not compatible with this (as per the initial point of this thread, haha).
Looking forward to your updates Mikevhl
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So it sounds like Dalvik would be slower than using actual ROMs, since it runs on top of the OS. Fake ROMs sound easier to make, so theres probably a lot of those floating around I would image. Right now I still have to learn the difference between all these ROMs, and which ones the MS2 can even use, since ROMs for other phones are not compatible with this (as per the initial point of this thread, haha).
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Dalvik is the default virtual machine from android, so it wouldn't be slower because every app on android uses it, it's not a modification from the ROM.
Basic Dalvik is the java virtual machine chosen by android.
@Mikevhl:
The user cvpcs had made an AOSP rom for Droid 2 that may help your job. You can modify to milestone 2 the config he made. It's on hxxps://github.com/cvpcs/android_device_motorola_droid2
I thought of doing this and use to compile AOSP but I never had time to actualy do it.
root Milestone2.2.1 with z4root and instal Cynogen Gingerbread ROM
Dear Mike,
I need your advise and help.How can I root my Milestone 2(Italian version-now using in India), officially updated to 2.1 and then to 2.2.1, using z4root and install latest version of Cynogen Mod Gingerbread ROM?And, is there any other ROM more suitable to my phone than Cynogen?Please give me a step by step specific instructions for z4rooting and installing the suitable ROM avoiding the sophesticated technical terms as I am not an expert in this field.I am using a Windows XP laptop in which Motorola Driver pack5.1.0 and Installer 3.8.3 are installed.I have been surfing through hundreds of threads in various forums but they all seem to be complicated and confusing .So I am requesting you to please render me your kind help.
Waiting for you with thanks in advance,
pnsdhrn.
PS:Also please give me your link for making a donation.
You can root your M2 with SuperOneClick (search on Google or XDA)
You can't install Cyanogenmod or any other custom rom that you don't see in this section, the only rom available for Milestone2 is argent2stone
I believe he's talking about Milestone 1, not 2
patton82 said:
You can root your M2 with SuperOneClick (search on Google or XDA)
You can't install Cyanogenmod or any other custom rom that you don't see in this section, the only rom available for Milestone2 is argent2stone
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Dear Patton &Majkel,
My Milestone is unrooted and officially updated to 2.2.1 from Motorola Software update site using USB AND WINDOWS XP PC.Hence whether this can be rooted with z4Root?If yes,what is the procedure?And I saw in various threads that latest CynogenMod7 7.1.0-RC8-11.06.02 can be installed in this rooted Milestone2.2.1.Is it possible without any drawbacks?Pl advise.
pnsdhrn
But this is Milestone 2 forum. With Milestone you should go here. Here you have information about CyanogenMod for Milestone 1.
first sorry for being a noob on this things..
i got a wildfire A3333 with android 2.2.1 running on it..
my question is..i want to root my phone..its possible? what should i do first? do i need to check anything b4 starting to root it?
and again..sorry being a noob :'( please help me!
You have to get S-OFF using Revolutionary. Don't touch Unrevoked, because its not needed and will not work. You can refer the outline of the process here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
after i doing this S-off stuff, its means my phone is rooted and i can run livewallpaper?
No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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except a few ones? didnt get what ur means buddy..
There are just a few I personally have tested which doesn't seem to slow down the phone as much as others.
- Starfield 2D
- Solar Wind
- Pixel Rain
- Nexus Like Live Wallpaper
There are probably more out there, but, with the above 4, slowdown is minimal, atleast for me.
ok last question here..
what is the different between rooted and unrooted wildfire..also the advantage of doing this root things :S
Advantages are potentially plenty. You can:
- Install Custom ROMs, including ones with Android 2.3.5
- Remove System Apps from ROMs you dont need
- Live Wallpaper Support
- Proper Apps2SD Support
- Many Root only apps like Titanium Backup (App Backup), SetCPU (Overclock CPU) etc.
In a nutshell, thats about it. There are quite a few more, but I'll keep my post short.
Obviously, none of the above things can be done without rooting your device.
ok many2 thx to u @3xeno..
do u think this stuff easy to do for a novice like me? i really wanna do it..but afraid will broke my wildfire >.<
I would say yes. Everyone is a novice when they start off, so, don't worry about it.
Besides, I would say the process is pretty safe (and easy - Its literally 1 click. I remember the process when Symbian S60 V3 had to be hacked. It needed a digitally signed certificate from an authority!) as well. Haven't seen any brick reports yet. Further, everything is reversible, so you shouldn't have issues claiming warranty in the future if the need arises.
Cyanogen Mod 7 <<-- what is this? i have read it somewhere.. :S
Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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so u means if i put this on my wildfire it will bring some problems? and do u know how to fix the problems?
Well I don't know, because when I flashed it i didn't notice any problems except for the Bluetooth. But It's not the same for every phone.
Anyways no major problems, and I recommend that you do a nandroid backup before you flash any Rom just in case something goes wrong.
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I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!
Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.
I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.
i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems
Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.
kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.
I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?
You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad
I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".
Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.
Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!
No problems happy to of helped
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed
kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.